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April 05, 2024, 02:33:59 AM
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Yes, sometimes you get frustrated and end up not following through on what you promised yourself. So yes, discipline is something very complicated to have and even more difficult to maintain. So, we must always bet with caution and discipline
If from the beginning it has become a habit to be undisciplined with yourself, it will be difficult to change.
Not thinking about how it will affect when using all the money for betting, there is no strategy whatsoever so it will lose it all.

Feeling frustrated and eventually becoming a new problem.
I myself limit to betting large amounts, because I realize there must be limits that I should not cross.
When you get too wrapped up in betting and gaming, then there are no limits to remember, self-control is important.
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April 05, 2024, 02:45:53 AM
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Gambling in casino always depends on luck. If you are lucky, then you win. If you are slightly unlucky also, then no matter whatever the odds is, even 1.01x can make you lose the money. Don’t worry OP, you are not only the one who faced this type of situation. I have done it many times and often regretted on my decisions. To counter this we need to gamble with cool atmosphere with calm mindset. We just need to gamble with the money that we can afford to lose.
It does no matter how unlikely an event could be, if the chances are not zero then given enough time you are sure to watch such an event, that is what happened to the OP, the chances of losing their money on that way were low, but as long as they kept playing and making the same move, sooner or later they would have lost their money this way.

So it is important to not blame casinos when that happens, as it is unlikely a casino will take the time to manipulate the results for a single player, when they can simply wait for the probability to work its magic.

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April 05, 2024, 03:34:27 AM
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Yes, sometimes you get frustrated and end up not following through on what you promised yourself. So yes, discipline is something very complicated to have and even more difficult to maintain. So, we must always bet with caution and discipline
If from the beginning it has become a habit to be undisciplined with yourself, it will be difficult to change.
Not thinking about how it will affect when using all the money for betting, there is no strategy whatsoever so it will lose it all.
You are right about this but unfortunately, that is the process for most gambler - they got excited from the beginning after few wins, they increase the amount for betting and are eager to win the jackpot. At this point, they ditch everything risk management as the greed level become too high. But gradually, gambling will begin to humble them through parallel losses, some will be caused by minor mistakes. After series of losses, some will quit and run while some are still able to continue gambling but this time with fear and humility.

I myself limit to betting large amounts, because I realize there must be limits that I should not cross.
When you get too wrapped up in betting and gaming, then there are no limits to remember, self-control is important.
It just depends on personal preference as I still bet large amounts depending on the games. If it is a high probability match like Liverpool match yesterday, large amount will be put in depending though if I am adding other matches to raise the odds. Gambling is just about each individual finding out their suitable means of making progress and also protecting their minds and finances.

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April 05, 2024, 04:34:59 AM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
that is a very tricky one mate because it is a very rare to happen that there is the same
ace outcome from Hi-Lo so indeed that you are being tricked lol, and another thing is that you
have taken all your luck when you put all the funds in that single bet in which for me something
like a greedy decision , If I were to decide ? i think betting half of my money is enough to take
that rare chances.
Don’t worry OP, you are not only the one who faced this type of situation.
its a normal thing in regular gamblers to have this kind of decisions and indeed that mostly
it is regrettable and will teach them a lesson of their life.

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April 05, 2024, 04:53:46 AM
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When you're on the Lossing side this thought always come to your mind, but it's not true. These casino games are built using random selection of cards but I believe the possibility of you winning is minimal. Most time the reason we thinks we are being cheated is because the casino are the one handling the card you selected and the result, so definitely they'll make your wining possiblity minimal. The only thing left for you to do at this point is to gamble responsibly and stay discipline. lucks aren't always on our side.
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April 05, 2024, 04:59:42 AM
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When you're on the Lossing side this thought always come to your mind, but it's not true. These casino games are built using random selection of cards but I believe the possibility of you winning is minimal. Most time the reason we thinks we are being cheated is because the casino are the one handling the card you selected and the result, so definitely they'll make your wining possiblity minimal. The only thing left for you to do at this point is to gamble responsibly and stay discipline. lucks aren't always on our side.
Luck is not always with us in gambling, so when we gamble, if we lose money by gambling, of course in order to get back the lost money, usually people who are addicted to gambling become restless, how can they recover that money by gambling again and again. And they lose more than twice as much money as they lose gambling. Gambling is never right to make us addicted because in this way if gambling is seen they are wasting their cash and their family is harmed so one must be careful before gambling many families are destroyed due to this gambling so gambling becomes addiction.  

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April 05, 2024, 05:42:15 AM
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Luck is not always with us in gambling, so when we gamble, if we lose money by gambling, of course in order to get back the lost money, usually people who are addicted to gambling become restless, how can they recover that money by gambling again and again. And they lose more than twice as much money as they lose gambling. Gambling is never right to make us addicted because in this way if gambling is seen they are wasting their cash and their family is harmed so one must be careful before gambling many families are destroyed due to this gambling so gambling becomes addiction.  

I can't say for sure, but most times  the reason for increasing your stakes is because of greed and that has gotten lots of gamblers into  trouble. As a gambler you should know when to quit gambling no matter the wins at that moment. And one of the way to gamble responsibly is when you stay satisfied with whatever the result is, rather than looking for a way to increase your stake or borrow money to chase your losses. When you gamble responsibly, you'll enjoy the fun that comes from gambling.
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April 05, 2024, 05:46:36 AM
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Luck is not always with us in gambling, so when we gamble, if we lose money by gambling, of course in order to get back the lost money, usually people who are addicted to gambling become restless, how can they recover that money by gambling again and again. And they lose more than twice as much money as they lose gambling. Gambling is never right to make us addicted because in this way if gambling is seen they are wasting their cash and their family is harmed so one must be careful before gambling many families are destroyed due to this gambling so gambling becomes addiction.  

I can't say for sure, but most times  the reason for increasing your stakes is because of greed and that has gotten lots of gamblers into  trouble. As a gambler you should know when to quit gambling no matter the wins at that moment. And one of the way to gamble responsibly is when you stay satisfied with whatever the result is, rather than looking for a way to increase your stake or borrow money to chase your losses. When you gamble responsibly, you'll enjoy the fun that comes from gambling.

The fun are only achieve when we win, yes we are having fun as we gamble but honestly people doesn't feel good if they loss, at least most of us gamblers. So the discipline that is needed when gambling is to only ensure that we don't gamble more than we can afford, but at the end of the day, losing is still painful, but it varies on the amount, losing big, more painful, but losing enough, we can sure eventually move on.

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April 05, 2024, 05:59:31 AM
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When you're on the Lossing side this thought always come to your mind, but it's not true. These casino games are built using random selection of cards but I believe the possibility of you winning is minimal. Most time the reason we thinks we are being cheated is because the casino are the one handling the card you selected and the result, so definitely they'll make your wining possiblity minimal. The only thing left for you to do at this point is to gamble responsibly and stay discipline. lucks aren't always on our side.
The casino games were not built to make the outcomes majorly be on our side, I doubt if they make a chance available for us the gamblers to get wins if they weren't under regulation by the authority in the jurisdiction they occupy. It's the responsibility of the gambler not to be overwhelmed by a streak of two or more wins to decide to go all in with the money at hand as the next result of the game is certain especially when the hedge has never been on our side but the casinos.
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April 05, 2024, 08:02:15 AM
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The fun are only achieve when we win, yes we are having fun as we gamble but honestly people doesn't feel good if they loss, at least most of us gamblers. So the discipline that is needed when gambling is to only ensure that we don't gamble more than we can afford, but at the end of the day, losing is still painful, but it varies on the amount, losing big, more painful, but losing enough, we can sure eventually move on.

I would say that it depends from a situation a lot. You say there isnt no fun when you lose. But I remember gambling with friends. We were placing bets in online casino. The game was crash if not mistaken. When the rocket flew up, we have started cheering it, but when it exploded, we made fun of the person who placed bet, called him looser and suggested that he should have clicked jump. We wasnt aimed to harm his feeling; all of us were laughing. There are moments when it is fun to lose. If he would go all-in that time, it would be even funnier. (once again we, a company of friends, dont gamble for money)

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April 05, 2024, 08:59:09 AM
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it's okay to go all in if it was just a normal part of the plan, but out of frustration and you decided to go all in, then that is not wrong. If a casino is rigged or has been manipulating the outcome, then OP is not the only one that is a victim and most likely the casino is not popular or just a new one which might only exist short term. However, if they are legit, you can't think that they are cheating us just because you don't have a winning outcome on a certain session.

Thinking that casino is rigged only because you lost your all-in is. unfortunately, a common practice among among some gamblers. Then they are telling stories like "When I was doing small bets I was winning and once I went all-in, I lost." They think some "program" is watching their bets and reacts accordingly. I think it's called paranoia.

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April 05, 2024, 09:36:36 AM
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Luck is not always with us in gambling, so when we gamble, if we lose money by gambling, of course in order to get back the lost money, usually people who are addicted to gambling become restless, how can they recover that money by gambling again and again. And they lose more than twice as much money as they lose gambling. Gambling is never right to make us addicted because in this way if gambling is seen they are wasting their cash and their family is harmed so one must be careful before gambling many families are destroyed due to this gambling so gambling becomes addiction.  

I can't say for sure, but most times  the reason for increasing your stakes is because of greed and that has gotten lots of gamblers into  trouble. As a gambler you should know when to quit gambling no matter the wins at that moment. And one of the way to gamble responsibly is when you stay satisfied with whatever the result is, rather than looking for a way to increase your stake or borrow money to chase your losses. When you gamble responsibly, you'll enjoy the fun that comes from gambling.
Basically those who can gain money by gambling get the fun and if they lose money by gambling then there is never any fun after losing the money. But most of the money that is gained by gambling means that they are losing twice the amount of money that they are gaining. Many people become addicted to gambling by playing gambling for fun. One time it is seen losing their cash money many borrow and gamble and go to gamble by borrowing and endangering their lives so borrowing such money and gambling is never the right decision .

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April 05, 2024, 09:55:46 AM
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The fun are only achieve when we win, yes we are having fun as we gamble but honestly people doesn't feel good if they loss, at least most of us gamblers. So the discipline that is needed when gambling is to only ensure that we don't gamble more than we can afford, but at the end of the day, losing is still painful, but it varies on the amount, losing big, more painful, but losing enough, we can sure eventually move on.

I would say that it depends from a situation a lot. You say there isnt no fun when you lose. But I remember gambling with friends. We were placing bets in online casino. The game was crash if not mistaken. When the rocket flew up, we have started cheering it, but when it exploded, we made fun of the person who placed bet, called him looser and suggested that he should have clicked jump. We wasnt aimed to harm his feeling; all of us were laughing. There are moments when it is fun to lose. If he would go all-in that time, it would be even funnier. (once again we, a company of friends, dont gamble for money)

That could be another way of having fun, it's not the normal, but normally when you gamble with your friends, most of the time you'll expect a loss because you are not concerntrating, instead you are just having fun, but at least you'll not risk too much as you know you are not seriously gambling at all.

I'm referring to the general feeling of most gamblers here, we don't have fun when we don't win.. I don't know, maybe just me but I don't really feel good when I lose even if in the process I was enjoying it.

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April 05, 2024, 11:27:48 AM
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Basically those who can gain money by gambling get the fun and if they lose money by gambling then there is never any fun after losing the money. But most of the money that is gained by gambling means that they are losing twice the amount of money that they are gaining. Many people become addicted to gambling by playing gambling for fun. One time it is seen losing their cash money many borrow and gamble and go to gamble by borrowing and endangering their lives so borrowing such money and gambling is never the right decision .
But if they using all-in and lose all of the money, that will makes them desperate and can't accepted their lose. That can caused them to use more money to revenge their lost but that doesn't guarantee can win the gambling games. When they win, that win amount can't still recovers their lose as their lose will be bigger than their wins. They must thinks about not using much money to playing gambling, especially not using all-in bet because that can caused them losing all of their money. If they do that continuously, they will lose all of their money without have a chance to recover or gets their money. They will bankrupt fast without they can realizes and they only see when they end their games. That makes many people lose their hope and many of them ends their lives because they can't thinks how to solve their problems.

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April 05, 2024, 11:59:31 AM
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Basically those who can gain money by gambling get the fun and if they lose money by gambling then there is never any fun after losing the money. But most of the money that is gained by gambling means that they are losing twice the amount of money that they are gaining. Many people become addicted to gambling by playing gambling for fun. One time it is seen losing their cash money many borrow and gamble and go to gamble by borrowing and endangering their lives so borrowing such money and gambling is never the right decision .
But if they using all-in and lose all of the money, that will makes them desperate and can't accepted their lose. That can caused them to use more money to revenge their lost but that doesn't guarantee can win the gambling games. When they win, that win amount can't still recovers their lose as their lose will be bigger than their wins. They must thinks about not using much money to playing gambling, especially not using all-in bet because that can caused them losing all of their money. If they do that continuously, they will lose all of their money without have a chance to recover or gets their money. They will bankrupt fast without they can realizes and they only see when they end their games. That makes many people lose their hope and many of them ends their lives because they can't thinks how to solve their problems.
going all-in is a rookie mistake. Its a gamble, and often a losing one. Believe me, I've seen folks get burned that way. A bit of empathy for them, sure, but also, its frustrating. You've got to be smarter.

Responsible gambling is about strategy, not blind luck. You wouldnt just toss everything on the first race, right? You study the odds, manage your money, stay in control. I've made comebacks, the best comebacks, but thats because I always left myself room to pivot. Win or lose, you need options. That's the way to succeed, in gambling and in life. You dont win by betting the farm - you win by knowing when to hold, when to fold, and when to play your best hand.

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April 05, 2024, 02:18:02 PM
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Basically those who can gain money by gambling get the fun and if they lose money by gambling then there is never any fun after losing the money. But most of the money that is gained by gambling means that they are losing twice the amount of money that they are gaining. Many people become addicted to gambling by playing gambling for fun. One time it is seen losing their cash money many borrow and gamble and go to gamble by borrowing and endangering their lives so borrowing such money and gambling is never the right decision .
But if they using all-in and lose all of the money, that will makes them desperate and can't accepted their lose. That can caused them to use more money to revenge their lost but that doesn't guarantee can win the gambling games. When they win, that win amount can't still recovers their lose as their lose will be bigger than their wins. They must thinks about not using much money to playing gambling, especially not using all-in bet because that can caused them losing all of their money. If they do that continuously, they will lose all of their money without have a chance to recover or gets their money. They will bankrupt fast without they can realizes and they only see when they end their games. That makes many people lose their hope and many of them ends their lives because they can't thinks how to solve their problems.
Gambling is an addiction that initially people gamble for fun, but when gambling becomes an addiction, their life becomes miserable. Because the people of the family who have a gambler will be able to tell well how the mentality of a gambler is and how their behavior is. There is a person in my neighborhood who has lost a huge amount of money by gambling. Every night he takes money and gambles so maybe he will win twice the money that is lost but every time he loses the money thus losing money and losing his family today is never in a bad situation. not right  People who gamble constantly and lose one after the other sometimes take such a drastic step they don't hesitate to give up their life when they see darkness around them they end their life so before taking such a decision must think ahead on the way of the tide.  Legs should be extended.

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April 05, 2024, 02:38:22 PM
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Basically those who can gain money by gambling get the fun and if they lose money by gambling then there is never any fun after losing the money. But most of the money that is gained by gambling means that they are losing twice the amount of money that they are gaining. Many people become addicted to gambling by playing gambling for fun. One time it is seen losing their cash money many borrow and gamble and go to gamble by borrowing and endangering their lives so borrowing such money and gambling is never the right decision .
But if they using all-in and lose all of the money, that will makes them desperate and can't accepted their lose. That can caused them to use more money to revenge their lost but that doesn't guarantee can win the gambling games. When they win, that win amount can't still recovers their lose as their lose will be bigger than their wins. They must thinks about not using much money to playing gambling, especially not using all-in bet because that can caused them losing all of their money. If they do that continuously, they will lose all of their money without have a chance to recover or gets their money. They will bankrupt fast without they can realizes and they only see when they end their games. That makes many people lose their hope and many of them ends their lives because they can't thinks how to solve their problems.
going all-in is a rookie mistake. Its a gamble, and often a losing one. Believe me, I've seen folks get burned that way. A bit of empathy for them, sure, but also, its frustrating. You've got to be smarter.

Responsible gambling is about strategy, not blind luck. You wouldnt just toss everything on the first race, right? You study the odds, manage your money, stay in control. I've made comebacks, the best comebacks, but thats because I always left myself room to pivot. Win or lose, you need options. That's the way to succeed, in gambling and in life. You dont win by betting the farm - you win by knowing when to hold, when to fold, and when to play your best hand.

Because beginners are not equipped with the correct understanding, they will do anything to achieve their desires even though the steps are wrong and not correct. Therefore, it is true that you say that as a beginner who has just entered the gambling environment, he must learn to apply a careful and wise attitude in every decision to gamble.

The strategy you mean is a strategy where beginners must implement good behavior, namely studying existing opportunities, limiting financial management and controlling themselves when playing. If these three things have really been implemented well then this will prevent beginners from gambling excessively and possibly beginners Don't feel a big loss from losing money when gambling.
Of course, we have to be wise in making decisions when we win or lose because we really pay attention to both, so that in gambling, if we make the wrong decision, our lives will be ruined and we can only mourn very deep sadness.

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April 05, 2024, 02:46:13 PM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

Sounds to me just like a bad beat and I wouldn't react too much on it. When it comes to gambling everything is possible and we need to adapt to it. When the odds are in our favor than going all in is fine, as long as we don't expect a certain win. There will always be a small chance of us getting wiped out, absolute certainty doesn't exist in gambling. Hopefully you didn't bring all your money with you and still have bankroll behind. I prefer to always split my money, so that I have another day to gamble again.
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April 05, 2024, 02:50:06 PM
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Well, that's what happens when you are losing. It's always going to be biased towards yourself and not how it would work. I'm pretty sure that if you have played different games that are like this, it would be common to experience this. Maybe just lay back and not go all in. Even if it's on the "sure or high-chance" of winning" still manage your risk so you won't get emotional.
But when you continue winning in your gambling, you will not have such mind set that the casino are the ones making you to win but when you are experiencing losses such mind set will occur but if you are a type of gamblers that has been playing gambling for a long time go understand that is not the fault of the casino.

Every gamblers want to remaining winning which will not be possible in the gambling system because, there will be a time you will lose and there will be a time you will win and that is what gamblers are experiencing some times in gambling center.

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April 05, 2024, 02:54:23 PM
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The fun are only achieve when we win, yes we are having fun as we gamble but honestly people doesn't feel good if they loss, at least most of us gamblers. So the discipline that is needed when gambling is to only ensure that we don't gamble more than we can afford, but at the end of the day, losing is still painful, but it varies on the amount, losing big, more painful, but losing enough, we can sure eventually move on.

What you say is correct, winning is one of the things that makes us happy when we gamble, because most gamblers definitely want and aim for victory, because that is what all gamblers want. Of course, no gambler feels happy when their gambling ends with disappointing results, such as losing or losing the money they bet, it's just that losing at gambling is unavoidable, we have to be able to accept it whether we like it or not. Our response to defeat can determine the future, if we respond to defeat in gambling incorrectly then it is possible that emotions will overflow and lead us to risk everything or everything to be able to pursue an uncertain win.

We have to gamble according to what we can afford, one of which is financially, if our finances are not very stable then we shouldn't force ourselves to gamble, because forcing ourselves to gamble is not good either, do gambling appropriately then everything will be fine. Don't let us make the wrong decision that actually traps us and harms ourselves.

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