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March 29, 2024, 03:17:34 AM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

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March 29, 2024, 03:21:03 AM
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Well, that's what happens when you are losing. It's always going to be biased towards yourself and not how it would work. I'm pretty sure that if you have played different games that are like this, it would be common to experience this. Maybe just lay back and not go all in. Even if it's on the "sure or high-chance" of winning" still manage your risk so you won't get emotional.

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March 29, 2024, 03:42:29 AM
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It's natural to question the fairness of the game because we can verify if it's a provably fair game. This is the nature of gambling, where even with minimal possibilities, there's always a chance of unexpected outcomes; it's all about probabilities and luck. Sometimes luck just doesn't swing our way, and it can be disappointing. But we wouldn't feel that at all if our approach to what we're playing is with a mindset of entertainment rather than expecting to always win. Losing is part of the experience, but what matters most is how we handle them. Take it as a learning experience, and maybe next time, you'll have better luck.

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March 29, 2024, 03:49:41 AM
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It does happen a lot of times actually, in my experience. Because we always expect the next thing will be higher then the system will give us the exact same thing. But let's also take the positive side here, how much multiplier could've happened if you picked "Same"? There are gamblers who would risk picking that option rather than go higher just so they could boost their multiplier and then continue the game.

There's no one to blame, you are gambling, you know the risk, and you also know that it's possible. If you are playing that game for a long time then I bet you have seen that many times, but it's the timing that got you. You will never know when the same card could possibly come out and that is now.
Sorry for your loss, I hope you get it back the next time you gamble again.

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March 29, 2024, 03:58:59 AM
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Casino is the party that has the upper hand and they will always make a profit from every bet made by all customers, basically the casino will make gamblers lose money gradually from every loss.
Moreover, basically no gambler can really win and be said to make profit because what actually happens is that the gambler is the one who loses the most.
This is business and aims to make money, but in context like this I don't think it manipulation but that how casinos work where they have an advantage in winning the game and making the gambler lose.
Things like this will happen in any casino so we have to be able to understand and understand it, if don't want to lose large amount then don't bet beyond limits.
After all, no gambler can really get clean chance of winning, there will always be losses and even if win, I sure that after winning there will always be losses.
Gamblers will feel that they are not at loss if they gamble according to what they can afford to lose and do not have the ambition to make money from gambling.

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March 29, 2024, 04:39:55 AM
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And people say you need to understand the strategy in order to win in gambling. Tongue

Look, you've try to understand the pattern because you bet higher card on 5 number card and lower card on 10 number card, but you're also loss all of your money because of "luck".

Luck is really unpredictable, there are no relations with the pattern or strategy.

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March 29, 2024, 05:13:14 AM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

The fact that you go all  in, you already lose control if it's not part of the plan before you gamble. You might be upset with losing and resulting to you blaming a casino. No, you should not blame a casino especially if a casino has a good reputation, because they'll never manipulate or just a small dollar bet,  what would they get on that anyway? isn't their reputation more important than a "small dollar bets"?

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I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

Look, nowadays I don't play poker as much but when I played at least 1K hands every day and there were days when I played 5K, I can assure you that it was common to see plays with a probability of less than 5% every day. Improbable events do happen. Things like a fish paying you on the flop with nothing (other than a backdoor gutshot , a gutshot opening on the turn, and the magic card appearing on the river for him have not surprised me for a long time. That's what you should have a good bankroll for.

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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

Sometimes that's the results you get when you've put in more effort using dollar bets,but it's not about the  casinos manipulating any results but it varies cause as you go all in sometimes you'll definitely have a win but probably it's from the card selection and you need to understand this card selection and strategies used so you won't end up loosing and again you don't have to feel the loss of the game if your betting with the lowest amount that you can afford to loose because it gives you a room that you can have a win trying again.

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March 29, 2024, 05:58:39 AM
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That Ace deal happening when you suddenly go all in is probably the goofiest thing but a tragic coincidence for you too because I guess you're just unlucky at that time and yes that kind of moment can really make you blame that the casino is manipulating the game to some degree but I got to tell you though that if you've been playing there for awhile or a long time now, you'd probably see the manipulation and cheating that they do and it should've happened to you more than usual but in the case that it didn't happen, it's probably just an unlucky/tragic coincidence.



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March 29, 2024, 06:00:54 AM
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Well, that's what happens when you are losing. It's always going to be biased towards yourself and not how it would work. I'm pretty sure that if you have played different games that are like this, it would be common to experience this. Maybe just lay back and not go all in. Even if it's on the "sure or high-chance" of winning" still manage your risk so you won't get emotional.
Exactly, when you're losing you start thinking that the casino its somehow against your progress and wants to just take your money, leaving nothing for you. That's just your human emotions playing out. The truth is that there's equal possibility of any outcome, both win and loss. I believe when  OP was winning he never had your emotions  play out that way  until  he recorded a  big loss.

That why its encouraged that you expect nothing from a casino, because expectations has a way of affecting us emotionally , in OPs case leaving  him with a biased judgment on the fairness on the casino games.

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Well, that's what happens when you are losing. It's always going to be biased towards yourself and not how it would work. I'm pretty sure that if you have played different games that are like this, it would be common to experience this. Maybe just lay back and not go all in. Even if it's on the "sure or high-chance" of winning" still manage your risk so you won't get emotional.

No matter which games you are about to place a bet on, never go all in, you are busy running after a result but you have blinded yourself from seeing what can happen if you lose, this is greed.

Right now I don't play slots like I used to do, because a new responsibility has arisen for me, and I need more money, I have no room for extra spending on gambling, but when the little that I can risk comes, I make sure that I slowly risk it away.

My risk-reward ratio is now lower than before, if you are ready to lose everything by going all-in on a game, then you are free to do so but the majority of people who always go all-in are not always ready to lose the money.

Going all in is a bad move, slowly betting some certain amount is better.

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March 29, 2024, 06:25:05 AM
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You'll always have that kind of thinking towards the casino if you lost a bet. I also have the same tendencies when I'm losing on all of my bets thinking that these casinos are rigged and know what my next moves are. Then again, there are times when I go all in and win my bets and think that it's all my luck and forgetting about the casino. We feel these dispositions toward the platform depending on our emotions, and it's normal because we're humans after all.

One thing I learned over time is to be desensitized by wins or losses. Once you are desensitized to such, you will feel that it's all due to your luck on that certain day and not necessarily due to the casino wanting to get the most out of your pocket.

If casinos are rigged against you, they would never receive any other players at all because they are a cheat. Then again, house edge exists and from this alone, the casino has an unfair advantage against you no matter how luck you are on that certain day - it will always win against you if you don't know how to quit while you're ahead or be smart with your bets.

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It's natural to question the fairness of the game because we can verify if it's a provably fair game. This is the nature of gambling, where even with minimal possibilities, there's always a chance of unexpected outcomes; it's all about probabilities and luck. Sometimes luck just doesn't swing our way, and it can be disappointing. But we wouldn't feel that at all if our approach to what we're playing is with a mindset of entertainment rather than expecting to always win. Losing is part of the experience, but what matters most is how we handle them. Take it as a learning experience, and maybe next time, you'll have better luck.
Usually people who gamble at first gamble for fun but after playing this fun game they become addicted at some point. And if they lose money by gambling then they become addicted to making money by gambling then they lose more money than they make money. But gambling is often due to luck, some people can make huge money by gambling or others are constantly losing money, so even if you are gambling, you should be addicted to gambling, considering its disadvantages.

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Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
If you bet with little amount of money, you will not be afraid to bet, unlike if you want to bet with high amount of money that will make you fear and let you want to go for what will possibly be the outcome and in the process, loss are more possible unlike if you bet with small amount and just not fearing but gambling responsibly. It is not good to go with all the money you have in your betting account, neither is it good to bet with high amount of money, but to bet with small amount instead.

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The probability of recieving ace card or any card is just same so whether we lose or win the probability remains same that means we just have to conclude that it's just a coincidence which you didn't want to happen. This is part of the gambling and I understand there will be a slight suspicion in our minds when we go all in because we know the money is not that easy to make.

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That's why it's not recommended and advisable to go all in unless you are very sure of your bet. But in reality, many gamblers are going all in in their bets or gambling games without the clear vision or hint that they will win; they most likely just let destiny choose whether they win or lose. I also do all in sometimes, but if I only have a little hint or am confident with my bet or my choice, Remember, if you will go all in, you should be ready for the consequences of whatever happens, whether you lose or win, but do keep in mind that with all in, you are also raising the risk. I mean, raising the risk is too much risk. That's why it's better to bet or play gambling with a small amount than pouring all your funds into one bet that has a 50% win or loss.

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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
Do you want casinos to lose and close their shop? Where will the fun be? That's not gonna happen, and the fact that the playing system of whatever game you are playing or want to play is wired more in their favour is the reason why you still see them in operation and that many more are opening their new shops to partake in the way money making avenue. You can't expect them to allow you to always win all the time and the first game option might be your luck which you never took seriously.

There are some games you play at the initial stage that will lure you into playing more and get convinced but will later lose. That's how the algorithms work, they may not be tricking you or adjusting anything internally but the system has been programmed already by the programmers to always work more for them, or give you the hard puzzle to solve. It now depends on your luck at that time in most cases and not the way you think or believe you are clever in playing it. Once it is a casino game you are playing, you should just play it with the mind that you are relying on luck and not expertise, or else, you will regret it. This is why a reasonable amount of money is also important here. If you wager too much money and that is not your lucky day, it becomes a problem.

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March 29, 2024, 07:37:28 AM
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Greed is why any gambler will go all in on a single bet, and most of them ends up losing everything, what many don't know is that using a fracture of your balance to take risks gives you more chances of trying again at that time, but going all in will end your chances in a single go.

And even the go all in risk depends on your luck, just because to go all in doesn't increase the chances of winning, so why do it?

You have the end result now OP, how do you feel? I bet you've earned your answer, so I expect you to make some adjustments next time, don't ever go all in on a bet, you will lose the game and you will lose all your balance.

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March 29, 2024, 08:07:35 AM
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That's unfortunately how probabilities work; sometimes, even though we're pretty confident we'll win, judging by the previous outcomes, we end up losing. The first reaction to blaming the casino or the game is pretty reasonable, like, I just went all in and lost; it must be rigged or something, but in reality, if you actually think it through, it doesn't actually make much sense, does it? Trust me, it's something we've all done in the past, and while it may be applicable in some cases, it's probably not accurate in the majority of casinos, at least those advertised here that are generally trusted ones.

This is the reason I generally avoid going all in, because even though it might look like it's your turn to win, probabilities don't work that way, and you're risking losing everything in one go.

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