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March 29, 2024, 11:17:56 AM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

I’m always having this kind of questionable result for me when using the house games. It’s not that super rare to get the tie card in hi-lo games since there’s only 52 cards available on the choice while 3/51 which is roughly 5.88% is your chance to encounter this scenario since house games consider whole deck of card in every decision making.

The last time I play this game and frequently encounter this same game scenario is on coins.game house hi-lo. I never try other house game but I think we always feel that the game is rigged when playing house games because we don’t know how the game code works.

But it’s really weird if you encounter this same scenario over and over if you are doing all-in bet. This kind of bet is very hard to get over based on my experience.

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March 29, 2024, 11:28:52 AM
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Winning isnt just dumb luck. Strategy matters. A bad hand, like that Ace, thats part of the game. Anyone can blame the casino, talk about rigged odds, but the truth is, chance is just chance. Thats the gamble we all take.

That said, you make a fair point about questioning the game itself. Look, any successful establishment runs on fair play. Regulations, oversight, thats standard. Its bad business to cheat. But, and here's where the smart money thinks, the house always has a built-in edge. Its how they stay afloat.

So, its not just about playing the game, its about knowing the game inside out. Learn from your losses, folks. Develop a strategy, think long-term. The real winners, the ones who build empires, they play smart, not just hard. This applies to cards, and to life itself.

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March 29, 2024, 11:30:41 AM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
I do end up with exactly same thought when ever I play a casino game or slot game until I end up with an empty bankroll, and not just when I go all in and loss it, but I quite agree with you, the feeling is always different when you've been playing, losing and winning some bets, but the moment you decide to bet all you account balance, you lose it, it's always feels like the casino was actually waiting for you to bet all or go all in so that they can take all your money at once  Grin.

But the truth remains that, no matter how fair a casino is, the chances the gambler have at winning is always way lower than the chances he or she has at losing, this simply means that, a gambler stands more chances of losing his or she game, than winning it, even though some will always say that the chance of winning and losing is always 50/50, this is a lie, for if it was so, good number of us will be winning most of the games we play.

And do you know what is even more annoying in this scenario?, it is when you playing a casino game (for example), and you keep winning bet after bet, you keep winning in a roll, you feel like luck have found you, and to maximize that luck for the moment it will last, you decided to go all in so as to easily double your bankroll, and then, just that very bet, you lose, all your money gone, you can't keep play anymore unless you make a new deposit, this is the most annoying thing in I experience at times when playing casino or slot games.

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March 29, 2024, 11:41:01 AM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
The casino has always have the better edge over it's players and knowing this will help you understand why sometimes even when you think you are going to be lucky, chances are that you may end up not been lucky enough so it's always safe to keep managing your risk and not to go all in with the mindset that you are sure to win except your going all in at that point is such that if you loose it wouldn't be much of a problem to you rather it will be something you can still manage always regardless of the losses.

You only beat the casino on their edge only a few times and that's why it's usually see like it's mostly luck dependent that you win the casino but it's not luck dependent that they will win you they always have the advantage and edge to winning the game most often.

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March 29, 2024, 11:54:37 AM
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It's natural to question the fairness of the game because we can verify if it's a provably fair game. This is the nature of gambling, where even with minimal possibilities, there's always a chance of unexpected outcomes; it's all about probabilities and luck. Sometimes luck just doesn't swing our way, and it can be disappointing. But we wouldn't feel that at all if our approach to what we're playing is with a mindset of entertainment rather than expecting to always win. Losing is part of the experience, but what matters most is how we handle them. Take it as a learning experience, and maybe next time, you'll have better luck.
Yeah I also question casinos for this specific issue since most I think hasn't had probably fair games and this is the reason why I stay away with casinos. Though I am playing online casino games without spending real money and I am surprized I got a winning streak but I know things will be different when money is involved and this is very natural in this industry. I played roullette and never had my dummy money being liquidated though I had free spins on it and free dummy money just by watching ads but I am having fun on that app I think I am currently at level 19.

With roullette I don't go all in even if I had that dummy money in there because I know it's a suicide if I do that. I want to have fun and feel the game  not early liquidation. 😅



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March 29, 2024, 11:58:24 AM
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Yup, it's never zero and we're always playing against the casino. That's why no matter how good you are as you start, it's always the case that the casino will never lose.

It may allow by the algorithm to let some players win consecutively but it's for sure that it will recover those wins from the other players and will defeat them based on how they're destined to lose.

This is also the reason why it's scary to become confident when we gamble, we're too brave but we'll never know if that bravery we've got will cause us some luck.

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March 29, 2024, 12:28:02 PM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
No matter how how small the chances are on which same as you said that as long it isnt zero then there would really be those probabilities that you would really be losing up a bet no matter how slim chance it would be.

It would really be that a very common human being behavior on which you would really be having that kind of blaming or having those kind of assumptions that they are dealing with a shady and unfair site
on which we know that these are the common words that would really be coming out into your mouth or the main thing that you would really be that assuming that they are rigging their users.
Well, this is how gambling  works on which there would really be those people who would be having that kind of reasoning but later on they would really be having those realizations
that they should have done it on the other way.

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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
I know that kind of feeling. The feeling of having confidence that we will finally have a chance to win a good amount of money as we receive a card that is good enough. This confidence will remove all your worries about losing your hand as you will never think of the next card as being the same as your current card. That's really an unfortunate event.

You should always remember that gambling is unexpected. It can either give you unexpected wins or unexpected losses. You can also identify it as not being lucky, even after getting an Ace, the card that we will definitely have the chance for us to get a big win. But we must always think that it is gambling. We can still lose even after getting a good card.


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March 29, 2024, 01:24:14 PM
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You don't have to blame the casino or the gambling website, however ensure you play in reputable websites. Take note that in gambling, you win some and you lose some, your loss does not have to be as a result of anything, but just that luck was not on your side at that time. Play with a small amount of money and do not go all in with too much money when gambling, if you lose big, that is when you will tend to complain and have thoughts of manipulation or unfairness from the casino.

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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

Ohh I know this game- had experience both positive and negative outcomes while playing this game with my friends while drinking.

Most of the time, I had good results as you can pass if you want to. It just really sucks to lose on a 96% of winning especially you receive an ACE or a KING then the next card that comes out is the same sign. To be honest, if I were in your position also, I would go all out and bet everything that I have since the result would most likely result on my favor.

While I always recommend people to prevent from going all out, this is one of those rare instances where I would be against such rule. In Hi-Lo, if you have that kind of card OP, always bet all out or at least 90% of your money.

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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
Yep, we never blame the casino being rigged when ever we hit the jackpot after going all in, even though that is against all odds as well. But tap yourself on the back for realizing this, because it means you aren't delusional, and don't have dangerously low self esteem. Because it takes a strong character to admit that it was your decision and you took the risk willingly. I doesn't feel nice, but the alternative is worse.

Because for some people it's just too hard to admit the reality and blame themselves for risking too much. Especially with people who have low self esteem, because admitting a mistake would add to that. Sometimes they are self centric and have self entitled attitude, because that boosts their low self esteem. And that combination makes them blame the rigged systems, rather accepting mathematical probabilities that weren't for their favor.

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March 29, 2024, 02:17:09 PM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

It's rare but it happens, who would have imagined that only one card would beat you but it did beat you, it happened to a friend and it made him lose his faith but things like this happen, there are cases when you lose all hope to win because of the odds but you beat the odds, just like what an upset in sports, it also happens in luck-based games.
I'm sure when faced with the same situation you will not go all out with your bets.

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March 29, 2024, 03:23:47 PM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
The casino has always have the better edge over it's players and knowing this will help you understand why sometimes even when you think you are going to be lucky, chances are that you may end up not been lucky enough so it's always safe to keep managing your risk and not to go all in with the mindset that you are sure to win except your going all in at that point is such that if you loose it wouldn't be much of a problem to you rather it will be something you can still manage always regardless of the losses.

You only beat the casino on their edge only a few times and that's why it's usually see like it's mostly luck dependent that you win the casino but it's not luck dependent that they will win you they always have the advantage and edge to winning the game most often.
In my opinion, luck only appears when the casino is intentionally building a few variables to make us believe more in fairness or they are not paying attention to the gambler's activities, and it's simple to attract the casino's attention by betting big or going all in on one match. The casino will not explicitly manipulate and let the gambler detect, they still allow a few explosive wins because the casino understands that the gambler will have thoughts of luck in the following days, and there is no advantage like the advantage of someone who takes the initiative in dealing with a situation like a casino owner

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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
I can assure you that you ain't the only one who has had such an experience during betting.
I remember sometime back when I tried one spin the bottle game, because it was easy to guess if the bottle would stop in the top or bottom side after a spin. After much win with the minimum being $10, I would increase the amount and more often than not, I somehow loss till I have nothing left in my wallet balance.

I have so far tried to limit my access to such casino games because many of the times i get drawn in by the wins thinking that it's not enough until, poof, all monies have been depleted due to the thrill of winning little and  doubling my bet, hoping to win bigger.
It's all greed, but that's how the casino system works isn't it?

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Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
It does happen, especially if you are placing many small bets for too long already. The worst result I had on Hi-Lo game was 3 consecutive losses betting with more than 90% winning chance. It really seems unlikely to happen, because you never imagine you will lose 3 time in a row with so large winning chances at your favour, so it's natural we start doubting the legitimacy of the casino, although in the end we can't prove anything, besides being aware that even though the scenario is unlikely to happen, it's not impossible, anyway.

For that reason, I guess it doesn't worth to place bets with high winning chances anymore. Because even though there are massive chances of winning, the profit made is just too low and doesn't worth the risk which is still there, despite being a low risk bet. On long run, you will see this strategy is one of the less profitable and most treacherous ones. Personally, I learned that the hard way...

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When someone lose in gambling, he can thinks much about the casino. They can blames the casino because makes them lose their money and will playing gambling longer to recover their lost money. We don't knows if the gambling games is fair or not but we don't have to thinks about that because if we only wants to have fun in gambling, we don't have to thinks about win or lose. We only wants to fills our free time by playing gambling so we can accept whatever the outcomes and wants to having fun for a while. If you don't wants to lose your money, you don't have to playing gambling and keep your money for other things. Playing gambling only for people who wants to fills their free time and not trying to chase the win.

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March 29, 2024, 04:17:48 PM
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The gambler's fallacy is based on the belief that previous results can significantly influence upcoming results in a way that leads to frustration and a feeling of being cheated after a string of losses. Conversely, when players consistently win, they may become overconfident and ignore the fact that gambling is based entirely on chance.

Promoting the concept of emotional neutrality from a win or lose perspective is one of the aspects of responsible play. While achieving perfect neutrality may seem difficult, having a sense of balance is important. So you should consider each victory and defeat as an indelible part of statistical destiny.









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March 29, 2024, 04:29:29 PM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
There is no cheating in that game what I think is you stake all in at the wrong time. If you can know the perfect time to stake all the money you have on one bet and you were lucky to to win that's your luck because that's the perfect time luck showed on your game.
However it's not everyone that gets the advantage of winning anytime they bet with all their money. The previous performance of your games can not outflows the present ones because they are not placed the same time and they are different tactics. That's why their is no assurance in gamble, if you are lucky to win this one you should be grateful about it because you might not have another chance to win again in that present games.

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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
hahaha sometimes emotions interfere with the peace of heart and mind, taking the step to take everything out and thinking it will be better but in fact the House speaks differently and we lose what we already have, it is quite painful even though we have the intention of having fun in gambling, but will not feel happy if it feels like unfair.

The previous two wins that made him confident because he got an ace and thought that he would get much bigger so all in is a move that can make his bets multiply. But it is also quite tolerable for us to question the casino in the game because indeed an incident like the OP could have been deliberately made to steal the player's money, this needs to be questioned even though the answer is going in circles and the casino answers that it has done according to procedures and states that we behave fairly in all of their available game services.

BTW I also don't understand how the context of fairness is in a game against the house? Are there any peculiarities that we can identify as evidence that the casino is manipulating?

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March 29, 2024, 04:40:20 PM
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Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

The casinos don't manipulate us, though there are times that we may feel like being manipulated because we expect having same result as usual, but things doesn't really works like that in gambling, we can't predict for any outcome regardless of the kind of game we are playing, this most times have to do with luck, when the luck works for us, we can be having the wining coming and this may not last for a longer period before we begin to see the other side of the wining we have been having.

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