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April 05, 2024, 03:06:37 PM
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Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
Your question reminds me of one source, about Blackjack/poker gambling fraudsters and the like.
For example:
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When a gang of gambling cheats sussed out how to beat the house, they inadvertently highlighted a loophole from a shuffled deck. It took a magician-turned-mathematician to reveal how.

For clearer information you can read here: How a magician-mathematician revealed a casino loophole



For this reason, I have never trusted any type of Blackjack, poker or card games, especially in online casinos, obviously we are not dealing directly with opponents or dealers, even in physical casinos, card games often involve sleight of hand and fraudulent practices, I'm sure that if we bet all our money on one table/poker, I'm very sure there are various tricks to beat the house, what's more, players with emotions put all their money on one table.

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April 05, 2024, 03:12:35 PM
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Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

Even go all in is a lucky game so you don't have to say that they were biased or manipulated the system to favour themselves. Ace Card game is technical game and need good experience to play and you don't have to play without experience. Mostly when you are playing with computer, you have to know how to play it if not computer will definitely win you and the f you playing with someone then you can play slowly but computer is not like that and probably that where you think the game was manipulated.
Casinos never manipulate a game because that game you play there in that particular casino can be played in another casino website and you can see the similarities.

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April 05, 2024, 03:14:00 PM
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The All-in/Max-bet button is also known as the rage-quit button in many casino troll boxes and it does work that same way as well. Grin

You see, whenever a gamble is raging over their losses specially in an EV- game they will attempt to do their level best in trying to win back what they lost. This is fueled by the fact that they are guilty of their own actions and also because they dont want to return empty handed. So the chance that they are willing to take with their money by giving it a final stand is through the all-in button.

Of course this has rarely ever lead to a recovery, but losses only. Try your best to ignore that button as much as possible.

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April 05, 2024, 03:19:15 PM
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Greed will not give us a good impact but it will getting worst once we are actually going to let our greed take over us. But anyways if we put our all in bet then our luck is in our side then one thing for sure we will win a good amount of money. But If we don't have our luck in our side then one thing for sure we will not win but our last money the casino will took that. So we must not be greedy and we must not put our bet in all in so that we won't loss on the spot.

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April 05, 2024, 03:46:29 PM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
I knew that most of us here experienced doing an all-in bet whenever when we are already down significantly amount of our bankroll and already get tired to slowly earn back your losses.

I’ve done this several times and I manage to save my bankroll to profit/breakeven greater than suffering a total loss. I usually use the craps or mines to do the all-in bet to have a potential profit greater than x2 while I have more lifeline for my bet rather than a straight bet with x2 multiplier.

What game is your favorite to do this and what’s your record so far if you can still track it?



Well I don't think have done this all in thing to save my bankroll,what I did a certain time was when I was left with nothing on me but the little funds that was with me I decided to go all in and see how it will turn up,
I would say this is a luck challenge for me as it triggered by chances of winning that particular day and I was so amazed of the outcom cause it was ×10 of what I even expected.
but nevertheless on a normal day I would not try to go all in cause it may not work for me like I would presume but it sure does fir other tho inorder for them to regain their losses.

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April 05, 2024, 04:22:55 PM
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Greed will not give us a good impact but it will getting worst once we are actually going to let our greed take over us. But anyways if we put our all in bet then our luck is in our side then one thing for sure we will win a good amount of money. But If we don't have our luck in our side then one thing for sure we will not win but our last money the casino will took that. So we must not be greedy and we must not put our bet in all in so that we won't loss on the spot.

Sometimes it works but  most of the time it won't,  going all in and hope that luck will back us up is a product of being impatience,  there are gambler who thinks that chances is somehow base from luck, unlike with those who knows how to control, Yolo is not an option but instead they will quit and rest for a while, they will allow and accept defeats  instead of putting everything and lose their entire bankroll.  Better than regret after their session, they can think freshly when they comeback and play another try.

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April 05, 2024, 04:24:36 PM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

Lol, it has happened so many times with me. Just when I think that the next bet will be a win for me and I increase the bet amount, tadaa, I lose.
It has happened many times that when I go all in I lose the bet but few times I win and the feeling is exotic.
But that's what gambling is. We can't blame the casino for it.

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Well, that's what happens when you are losing. It's always going to be biased towards yourself and not how it would work. I'm pretty sure that if you have played different games that are like this, it would be common to experience this. Maybe just lay back and not go all in. Even if it's on the "sure or high-chance" of winning" still manage your risk so you won't get emotional.
But when you continue winning in your gambling, you will not have such mind set that the casino are the ones making you to win but when you are experiencing losses such mind set will occur but if you are a type of gamblers that has been playing gambling for a long time go understand that is not the fault of the casino.

Every gamblers want to remaining winning which will not be possible in the gambling system because, there will be a time you will lose and there will be a time you will win and that is what gamblers are experiencing some times in gambling center.

When a gambler manages to get a win let alone a winning streak then usually they will assume that they are different from other gamblers, it is very likely for him to think that the victory came because of his own prowess in betting and less likely to think that the victory was successfully obtained because they were in a good level of luck in his life, And this kind of mindset will obviously make them confused and feel strange when in the end they lose in the next session which most likely usually they are not able to accept defeat because they think that previously they also managed to win a lot of wins which in the end this kind of situation can trigger many out of control actions such as making more experiments sometimes by using large amounts of bets because they are curious about what is wrong that makes them lose.

When in fact the winning streak that they had previously managed to get is nothing more than just luck that came at the right time, while the name of luck will not always come according to what you want, everything always happens by chance. So the point is that we have to go back to the fundamental understanding of what gambling really is, which is that gambling will always be about winning and losing, which means that when you are now winning then it is possible that in the next session you lose, and do not assume that the victory you get is the result of your greatness, we must not forget that the aspect of luck plays a role in every betting result.

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April 05, 2024, 05:35:17 PM
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Greed will not give us a good impact but it will getting worst once we are actually going to let our greed take over us. But anyways if we put our all in bet then our luck is in our side then one thing for sure we will win a good amount of money. But If we don't have our luck in our side then one thing for sure we will not win but our last money the casino will took that. So we must not be greedy and we must not put our bet in all in so that we won't loss on the spot.
Greed have been one of the things that have affected us gamblers in the most negative ways, and at that we need to work hard to eliminate it grips over us and also make every attempt to gamble without allowing our risk to have a better part of us, many times we have failed to check our risk and greed level and we are mostly carried away by the expected winning amount there by falling victim for such trap as expected winning.

But I and when we control our greed, it give us better time and outlook at things and most importantly how we tend to view our outcomes and expected results.
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April 05, 2024, 05:37:58 PM
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

Lol, it has happened so many times with me. Just when I think that the next bet will be a win for me and I increase the bet amount, tadaa, I lose.
It has happened many times that when I go all in I lose the bet but few times I win and the feeling is exotic.
But that's what gambling is. We can't blame the casino for it.
Yes exactly, nothing to blame the casino for, any gambler that loses his or her bet immediately after betting everyone, and turns around to blame the casino for it, is probably a baby gambler, someone not yet matured in gambling, and if paradventure; such person has been gambling for a really long time, then possibly, such person should consider quiting gambling for it just might not be his or her thing.  Grin

Anyways, gambling is an activity that comes with alot of excitements and disappointments, personally, I would say that this actually is the only thing I can say that is guaranteed in gambling, those who gamble always, but most of the time, they are playing for fun, they may experience alot of excitements, even in the mix of loses, which is actually inevitable as long as gambling is concerned, while those who gamble always, but are always chasing profits, may likely feel excitements sometimes, and disappointments most of the times of their life, because constant winning is never possible in gambling.

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April 05, 2024, 06:47:47 PM
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It just depends on personal preference as I still bet large amounts depending on the games. If it is a high probability match like Liverpool match yesterday, large amount will be put in depending though if I am adding other matches to raise the odds. Gambling is just about each individual finding out their suitable means of making progress and also protecting their minds and finances.
If it does guarantee to get a bigger profit because the probability of winning is high enough, you will probably get it.
But you also need to be aware of some of the possibilities that will happen to the match.

I would never place a max bet even if the probability is quite high, as I do fund management for the main game and some reserves.
Don't be too optimistic, be careful in every step it needs to be done.
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April 05, 2024, 07:04:48 PM
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Greed will not give us a good impact but it will getting worst once we are actually going to let our greed take over us. But anyways if we put our all in bet then our luck is in our side then one thing for sure we will win a good amount of money. But If we don't have our luck in our side then one thing for sure we will not win but our last money the casino will took that. So we must not be greedy and we must not put our bet in all in so that we won't loss on the spot.
That's right, greed will always make us unable to get what we want and also we can't control ourselves when betting which makes us experience a lot of losses in the bets we play and only luck can win the bets we play if we play with greedy because while betting we don't analyze anything that makes us play uncontrollably and if we analyze first before betting then there will be a possibility that we will be able to win the bet we placed and it would be better for us to bet according to the amount of money we can afford. responsibility if you lose in a bet.

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Greed will not give us a good impact but it will getting worst once we are actually going to let our greed take over us. But anyways if we put our all in bet then our luck is in our side then one thing for sure we will win a good amount of money. But If we don't have our luck in our side then one thing for sure we will not win but our last money the casino will took that. So we must not be greedy and we must not put our bet in all in so that we won't loss on the spot.
That's right, greed will always make us unable to get what we want and also we can't control ourselves when betting which makes us experience a lot of losses in the bets we play and only luck can win the bets we play if we play with greedy because while betting we don't analyze anything that makes us play uncontrollably and if we analyze first before betting then there will be a possibility that we will be able to win the bet we placed and it would be better for us to bet according to the amount of money we can afford. responsibility if you lose in a bet.

And that's what happen to me a couple of hours ago, I can't believed that string of luck that I'm getting. And in just a matter of minutes, I lose everything, my $100 dollar bankroll didn't win anything and I think this is the first time that I experienced it.

Was to frustrated that I want to deposit for more, good thing is that the other side of my brain is telling me to just quit and not extend my losses. I even wanted to go land base and and there recoup my losses from online. So I just sleep it over, and not thinking to chase it,  Sad

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Greed will not give us a good impact but it will getting worst once we are actually going to let our greed take over us. But anyways if we put our all in bet then our luck is in our side then one thing for sure we will win a good amount of money. But If we don't have our luck in our side then one thing for sure we will not win but our last money the casino will took that. So we must not be greedy and we must not put our bet in all in so that we won't loss on the spot.

Basically it is quite difficult for someone to feel satisfied with everything they get. And even though it is not certain what the outcome of a gamble will be, win or lose, in reality many people have high hopes for the gambling they play, including me personally, hihihi. But stupidly, when we win, instead of withdrawing the winnings, we act recklessly by gambling again with higher bets than before. which in the end we lose the results of the winnings, so that we only get losses. and therefore, it is true what you say, that we should not be too greedy in gambling. To prevent even greater losses and the loss of winnings that have been obtained, it is quite important for us to be able to impose a limit and determine the maximum deposit amount and winning target that we want to achieve. although this is very difficult to implement and do.

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April 05, 2024, 08:01:09 PM
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Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.
When we lose in a game one thing becomes the satisfaction of blaming the casino whether it is their nature of manipulating the results or some other mistake. This is normal because in games run by machines, people are usually not very sure about their accuracy. In fact, sometimes we experience bad luck so that every time we play we lose with various assumptions that come to mind.

There is always someone to blame because we experience a loss and that is the result when someone is more focused on betting without considering the loss. Playing cards is sometimes funny because even though you hold good cards you still lose, I don't really like card games because I don't know how to play them and I often lose.

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The best approach is to accept that outcome and move on, forget about adding more money inside your bankroll or add more deposit and re-try your chance to recover back, most of the time you'll just end up losing more.

For me this is the most valuable of all, because when we bet it is a new experience, it is an experience that we can have with all clarity and with all freedom, if we play thinking about what we lost in the previous session we will do it, it is difficult to get good results, then each game session must remain in the past, even if we have won we cannot bring that thought of winning, well yes with a lot of optimism we have to agree that we must have very good faith, good vibes to win money, but We have to have a very calm attitude to Accept any result, personally one must be in a casino with an open mind to anything, winning or losing, but always with an open mind, so it is good that each gaming experience, or each new game session , you must totally new without having any pressure to play more easily, it's like playing reset.



Always have that clear mindset before putting yourself inside the casino, with your good attitude and perspectives you might have a better chance not just to enjoy but also have that good chance in winning some decent profits, but if you think about chasing your previous losses that's the risk and that's dangerous, as thinking about recovering as soon as possible, that's going to put some problem and pressures, instead of having the excitement and enjoyment you are being pressure to keep betting to win back your previous losses, most of the time the outcome turned against you.
Exactly, things are like that, as long as we are in the casino and we can enjoy the good things, I think everything will be fine, even if things Don't go well it will have to stop but as long as we have things under control I think there will be no problem, As good players we must always look for the best for ourselves, be aware that what we must take care of most is based on our money and under no circumstances decapitalize ourselves, that is what we must always consider, for this we must be patient and always have the determination of when to stop , that is why my strategy is very good, it is Preferable to control the amount I am going to spend in the casino than to control emotions, Emotions will make us spend a lot of money, and that gives us the consequences that we do not want for our lives , because sometimes a bad decision can mark our lives.

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April 05, 2024, 08:10:09 PM
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Greed will not give us a good impact but it will getting worst once we are actually going to let our greed take over us. But anyways if we put our all in bet then our luck is in our side then one thing for sure we will win a good amount of money. But If we don't have our luck in our side then one thing for sure we will not win but our last money the casino will took that. So we must not be greedy and we must not put our bet in all in so that we won't loss on the spot.
Before ever you would go down that road, you yourself will be well aware of the risks that is involved in it because if you are uncertain then don't just do it. Sometimes the reason why many people even make the all in bet decision is probably because they are tired and frustrated and just want to end it all knowing fully well that if it works out for him then he will be happy and if it doesn't he himself will still bear the risk because gambling is always too sided affair.

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April 05, 2024, 08:17:54 PM
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Gambling is a game where you can't even do a. Move with 100 % surety that this will go what you think in your mind Sometimes it goes the same and we call it luck and sometimes it goes wrong and we call it bad luck. But I think the same as you whenever we make a bet with low capital mostly goes according to our pridiction but when we put in all the capital we lose it suddenly, they are waiting first they give us a profit and then they wait when we put all the capital and they give it back. This is a stupid thought but mostly the time it comes to my mind and I am stuck in it. We don't know but maybe we just compromise on risk management and neglect it when we win a few bets and after winning some bit misguided ourselves that we can do it very easily and that is the point where we lose all our funds in a single bet.
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Greed will not give us a good impact but it will getting worst once we are actually going to let our greed take over us. But anyways if we put our all in bet then our luck is in our side then one thing for sure we will win a good amount of money. But If we don't have our luck in our side then one thing for sure we will not win but our last money the casino will took that. So we must not be greedy and we must not put our bet in all in so that we won't loss on the spot.

I won't see it as greed per se. It's only logical to raise your bets if the odds aren't stacked against you and the chances of you turning that situation into a win is high. Since OP only needed cards lower than Aces to win (and there are TONS of them), the possibility of drawing a card higher than that is greatly diminished. Even I would probably play my cards and raise my bet, but then again you don't know what the next events might be in gambling, and surely this time, that small percentage of loss hit OP like a truck, which resulted into a loss.
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I was just playing Hi-Lo, making small dollar bets, if it's 5 number card I select higher card and win, if it's 10 number then I go with 'low' and win.

Then I was greeted with Ace card, minimal possibility for equal card right (i.e, Ace), so I go all in, and guess what happens, the result is Ace means I lost the bet.

Then I have all sorts of thoughts blaming casino, like do they manipulate the result of the game when user goes all in. I am sure they are all fair, it's just that the possibility of losing the game may be minimal but it's never 0.

It seems you got greedy when you decided to bet everything OP at that time, so suddenly you lost. You know in casinos that the house always wins; they may just let you win at the beginning, but you never win often. And you know that, right?

Also, that's not the only thing that happens to you; it often happens to other gamblers who also often play gambling in the casino. Of course, when they see that the gambler is thrilled with his game and they see that he has bet everything, that's it. They will lose it. Will they see that the gambler will think that they are really lucky and will suddenly bet all in and suddenly lose?
where this chances is always happening inside the casino in different gamblers.



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