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December 18, 2011, 06:16:06 AM |
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shakaru aka Andrew Nollan accepted payment of $1600 for 4 EVGA 580 GTX's Classifieds 1.5 weeks ago, has since tried to worm more money, change the conditions and finally reneged on the deal. He owes me 4 EVGA 580 GTX's Classifieds which he has refused to send. He owes me $1600.
This is to inform the BTC community that he is a lier and a cheat and his word means shit. Andrew your pathetic, you deliver what I have paid for without question.
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December 18, 2011, 06:42:14 AM |
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December 18, 2011, 06:45:06 AM |
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Evidence? Just curious.
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December 18, 2011, 06:50:53 AM |
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oh, it's astana... I wonder who I would side with.
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December 18, 2011, 06:52:02 AM |
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oh, it's astana... I wonder who I would side with.
Good one fuckhead, piss you little maggot. I'm out 4 580 GTX and $1600 so shut your petty little mouth.
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December 18, 2011, 06:52:30 AM |
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Evidence? Just curious.
Chat logs, paypal payments.
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December 18, 2011, 06:55:06 AM |
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oh, it's astana... I wonder who I would side with.
Good one fuckhead, piss you little maggot. I'm out 4 580 GTX and $1600 so shut your petty little mouth. You have the balls to post something like this, why not post some evidence? EDIT: So you are saying you are out both? The cards and the money?
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December 18, 2011, 07:05:26 AM |
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Trust me I have more than balls. 04:59:28 me ok 04:59:36 me im ready paypal? 05:00:14 me soo $800 today 05:00:21 me $800 tomorrow? 05:00:40 me for 4 total evga 580 gtx classifieds 3gb 05:00:47 me correct? 05:00:34 Andrew Nollan Correct ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.bild.me%2Fbilder%2F030611%2Fthumb_1182497proof.png&t=665&c=N9x22c34CDsePg) Shane from Cheaper in Bitcoins Sold him of the 580 GTX's, he knows. A message: Andrew you scumbag liar , deliver what I payed for in FULL.
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December 18, 2011, 07:11:49 AM |
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When did this all happen?
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December 18, 2011, 07:13:55 AM |
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agreement was 1.5 weeks ago, that was taken then. do you want pictures of the paypal transactions?
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December 18, 2011, 07:14:55 AM |
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agreement was 1.5 weeks ago, that was taken then. do you want pictures of the paypal transactions?
No, maybe some convo of him saying he wanted to cancel the deal and why?
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December 18, 2011, 07:22:50 AM |
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Actually, you refused to pay shiping which you agreed. Asked me to lie to customs Demanded I send you items on CREDIT because you bought some cards. So I refuded him via paypal. Btw. Paypal was the reason for the dealy. Also, I told you to stop low balling me on hardware, and that once this deal was done, I was dont with you. Stop trying to not act like a dick. Edit: The refunds were also, BEFORE he posted this. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) And thansk for billing me for $4800 on paypal. Upstanding guy ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 18, 2011, 07:32:53 AM |
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22:37:22 astana cpu ive paid in full 22:37:26 astana cpu send my goods 22:37:41 astana cpu do it in 2 seperate packages 22:39:14 Andrew Nollan You did not pay in full, in fact. you had to split the payment and shiping was never part of it. I am done with you. Im calling paypal and reversing your transaction. Our buisness is over
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December 18, 2011, 07:36:02 AM |
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Actually, you refused to pay shiping which you agreed. Asked me to lie to customs Demanded I send you items on CREDIT because you bought some cards. So I refuded him via paypal. Btw. Paypal was the reason for the dealy. Also, I told you to stop low balling me on hardware, and that once this deal was done, I was dont with you. Stop trying to not act like a dick. Edit: The refunds were also, BEFORE he posted this. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) And thansk for billing me for $4800 on paypal. Upstanding guy ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Your pathetic Andrew, you should be banned for scamming. You could of dropped them off at my re-shipper in Torrence LA you liar but you didn't want to, I NEVER REFUSED TO PAY FOR SHIPPING post the evidence, YOU CAN'T. Do you fucking understand how to do proper straight business deals you shady cunt? YOU RENEGED, LIED, JACKED UP PRICES AND NOW REFUSE TO SEND THE CARDS AFTER TAKING MY MONEY. I want my 580 gtxs as I paid for in full as promised.
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December 18, 2011, 07:38:04 AM |
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You dont get it still I dont want to touch your money. I told trust you. You told me your self that you lie and cheat and I told you I do not like your ethics at all. You were refunded and I want nothing else to do with you or your constant attempts to get me to sell you hardware below what I am asking. Find someone else to bother.
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December 18, 2011, 07:43:32 AM |
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You dont get it still I dont want to touch your money. I told trust you. You told me your self that you lie and cheat and I told you I do not like your ethics at all. You were refunded and I want nothing else to do with you or your constant attempts to get me to sell you hardware below what I am asking. Find someone else to bother.
Your the liar. You agreed on the price, no one else you were not forced. $1600 for 4 cards, look at the picture I posted as proof. Your pathetic, you would sell your own mother to the highest bidder. Lied? Cheat? Shut your mouth, you have no credibility. What was happening with my $1600 during this time? Playing little games are we.
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December 18, 2011, 07:44:03 AM |
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From the sound of things I would say you are back to your old tricks again astana. Make a deal, negotiate something else, send funds to prove your "worth" then complain when the seller backs out from frustration.
I have done numerous transactions with shakaru and he has always been a stand up guy. You are leaving out details to help prove your case and attempting to force a trusted member to give in to your scammy ways.
Posting something like this knowing that you would need a large amount of evidence to prove to the community that you (a known shady character) got scammed from a trusted member is beyond me. This whole situation stunk of astana was soon as I saw it.
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December 18, 2011, 07:47:39 AM |
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From the sound of things I would say you are back to your old tricks again astana. Make a deal, negotiate something else, send funds to prove your "worth" then complain when the seller backs out from frustration.
I have done numerous transactions with shakaru and he has always been a stand up guy. You are leaving out details to help prove your case and attempting to force a trusted member to give in to your scammy ways.
Posting something like this knowing that you would need a large amount of evidence to prove to the community that you (a known shady character) got scammed from a trusted member is beyond me. This whole situation stunk of astana was soon as I saw it.
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Watch your mouth, you are warned. Old tricks? I'm probably straightest person on this board. Scam ? Go fuck yourself just for even mentioning that. Shady character? Prove it , name one deal where I have been dishonest, none. Infact I've paid upfront only to have douchbags and liars and cheaters and scammers fuck me. You little want to be btc judge, big words on the internet in real life well...
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December 18, 2011, 07:50:47 AM |
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From the sound of things I would say you are back to your old tricks again astana. Make a deal, negotiate something else, send funds to prove your "worth" then complain when the seller backs out from frustration.
I have done numerous transactions with shakaru and he has always been a stand up guy. You are leaving out details to help prove your case and attempting to force a trusted member to give in to your scammy ways.
Posting something like this knowing that you would need a large amount of evidence to prove to the community that you (a known shady character) got scammed from a trusted member is beyond me. This whole situation stunk of astana was soon as I saw it.
Good luck
Thank you. And with that. I am no longer going to respond to this.
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December 18, 2011, 07:52:21 AM Last edit: December 18, 2011, 08:43:47 AM by shakaru |
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Actually. Astana just reversed a series of Paypal bitcoin buys on me. Thymos. I need to have a word with you.
EDIT: Paypal has been contact regarding the reversal and an investigation has been launched.
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