Becareful with telegram wallet!

[knowngunman]

For several times, it has been discussed here that we should avoid storing assets in custodial wallet in order to avoid lose of funds. Telegram as one of the controversial social media platform has enabled wallet feature on their app for premium users. I read a thread here sometimes back asking how secure and reliable it is to use telegram wallet and many users here kicked against it (I can't find the thread as reference).

This very morning, a colleague in one of our platform brought a telegram related issue to platform seeking for help. He created a wallet on the app and store some funds there but unfortunately Telegram banned his number from accessing their services and that means automatic lose of funds. I don't know if there's a faster way to appeal for unban but I also have the same issue for over a year now and effort to unban the number prove abortive.




Creating a secure non custodial wallet won't take up to ten minutes or even less. I don't know the level of conveniences these unsecured wallets offer that people tend to be making such mistakes of using them for their asset storage. Not your keys, not your coins has been an anthem for as old as crypto exits but we turn deaf ears until things get worse before we learn. This is not only applicable to Telegram wallet but to all wallets which you have no control over the phrases. It is as good as if you have no asset because the custodian can deny you access at any time.

[Hatchy]

Though this is the first case I've seen about the telegram wallet, I think it should serve more as a warning for some lazy investors who prefer testing new projects than using the already made available secured opened source wallets to store their funds. For some reason I don't know why people don't think before making decisions. When this telegram wallet came about, I saw it on my telegram app though the interface looked good but still, you should remember that these are owned by centralized bodies and might not even be official making it unsafe for storing funds. A lot of time, telegram would white ban a mobile number for reasons that are not disclosed so what more will storing funds in there. Though I've never tried to ask for an appeal for my mobile no which had been banned for no reason.

We should learn to use open source noncustodial wallets to store our funds of which telegram isn't. These wallets aren't paid for , they are free and well secured so why stress over wallets that aren't safe for your funds. As for your friend @ knowngunman, I really don't think he can recover his funds as I haven't seen anyone appealed before on telegram as was unbanned. Except his ban had a time duration.

[lovesmayfamilis]

In my opinion, you need to use the software for its intended purpose without cluttering it with unnecessary functions. I mean that the Telegram program itself is intended for communication; initially, it was the most common communication between people. After groups appeared, now it is possible to add wallets. Telegram looks like a New Year tree, which is hung with different buns. At the same time, we regularly see various scams from Telegram groups and, of course, sudden blocking for actions that are incomprehensible to the owners themselves. By the way, Telegram can be hacked very easily; if you follow the links sent to you, one day you can become a victim of hacking, which once again proves that storing money separately is very smart and safe. There is no need to mix everything. Multifunctionality is only useful in the kitchen.

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[NotATether]

I believe that TONcoin is only available in the Telegram wallet and that there are no other exchanges that provide functionality for trading this particular coin.

But hey it wouldn't surprise me that Nigeria of all places has their phone numbers banned, because of their government's hostility towards cryptocurrency in general.

[Nwada001]

Why will the guy even save funds on a wallet? You know that your number is the only access you have to the telegram, and when this wallet is created, there is nothing like a given phrase that you can use to gain access to the wallet outside the telegram, so at least even if your number is banned, you can still gain access to it. Even if it's not open source, at least it gives you a little opportunity to recover whatever's lost in that wallet.
 
He can keep on trying to recover the banned number, but he should not put all his hope in the idea that it's ever going to get unbanned. One thing about getting an account that has funds banned is that it's very hard for it to get unbanned because the company has more to gain than lose at this point in time.

[knowngunman]

We should learn to use open source noncustodial wallets to store our funds of which telegram isn't. These wallets aren't paid for , they are free and well secured so why stress over wallets that aren't safe for your funds. As for your friend @ knowngunman, I really don't think he can recover his funds as I haven't seen anyone appealed before on telegram as was unbanned. Except his ban had a time duration.

I haven't bothered checking it out until after I made this post. I think it's accessible for every telegram users and not for only premium users. The interface wasn't bad and there is P2P service too though you need to verify your identity before taking part in it. However, there is a pop up display for the first time clicking the wallet icon where Telegram disclaim that the wallet is operated by independent party not affiliated with telegram. More reason for one to distant themselves from using such wallet.

I have taken several measures for my number to be unban too but to no avail. Their bot even warned that deleting your account and creating a new one with same number won't change anything and that might even lead to blacklist since you're attempting to bypass the ban.

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Thank you, edited appropriately.

But hey it wouldn't surprise me that Nigeria of all places has their phone numbers banned, because of their government's hostility towards cryptocurrency in general.

It is possible but I don't think that's the case here. Perhaps, some activities they considered against their policies is the reason for things like this in most cases.

[Catenaccio]

He created a wallet on the app and store some funds there but unfortunately Telegram banned his number from accessing their services and that means automatic lose of funds. I don't know if there's a faster way to appeal for unban but I also have the same issue for over a year now and effort to unban the number prove abortive.

I don't know that people can create a non custodial wallet with Telegram or it is all custodial. This article shows Telegram Wallet Bot is custodial.

How to use Telegram wallet.

There are other wallets, not Telegram Wallet Bot, and give non custodial controls. Your friend made bad decision to choose Telegram Wallet Bot.

https://ton.org/wallets

Is ban on Telegram with a phone number common?

Why do Telegram Accounts Get Banned?

Telegram accounts can get banned for violating the app’s terms of service, including spamming, sharing illegal content, or engaging in malicious activities.

[Davidvictorson]

I am sorry about your colleague's experience with the Telegram wallet. We have a human, moral, and ethical obligation to tell our friends with common interests about crypto scams, telegram wallet scams which we discover before them so that they do not fall victim. Not blaming you though but imagine if your friend had heard about this telegram wallet issue earlier from you.

I do not believe that telegram wallet is a custodial wallet. It worse than that. With telegram wallet aside them not having a support you can contact, they will scam you straight up without the need for any of their user facilitating it. For those who may not know it yet, if you still use telegram for chats, just know that they are not encrypted by default.

[348Judah]

I can't make use of a telegram wallet neither will I adhere to the use of any mobile browser app wallet as well, if a wallet is a custodial wallet, then it's not completely safe for our usage, because we have no access to it's private keys, same as well we shouldn't consider perfect safety in using a close source non custodial wallet, also, we have to be careful on the kind of 2allet we use, such must be an open source non custodial wallet

[ryzaadit]

Basically, the problem is because (Number Getting Block) by Telegram.

I have experience using (Telegram-Wallet) at the beginning of my journey in crypto, It's your friend are not exporting the private-key or wallet they're using. Even the service provider you are using telegram, I still remember the wallet usually created by their official project is always have option to export the wallet or at least a backup for the wallet they're using.

All contains your wallet address, none of backup are crazy mate.

[Makus]

Anytime I see any company meant to something else that starts adding wallet as a new feature, I just ignore it because I know it would not be a reliable source for wallets and the safe keeping of my assets. When I saw the new wallet feature telegram did, it just occurred to me that this is another legal way to loss your asset if anything happens to your account or telegram network. Just like the way, keeping your asset in an exchange is dangerous, storing them on telegram wallet is even more dangerous. This is the second time I've come across app that start offering the service of wallet.

[Porfirii]

In Spain, a court has recently banned Telegram groups, and the wallets are also questioned. The court's sentence has been provisionally suspended because it can violate fundamental rights, but I wouldn't rely on the mentioned services either, just in case: Spain has been the first case in the world, but who knows how can it could end in other places too.

[pakhitheboss]

My question to you is why being a member of this forum you would still believe that Telegram is good and it will not harm you. Every chat application like Telegram are a den for those who are known as scammers. Do a Google search and you will find so many scams happening on the two most popular chat applications. Whatsapp and Telegram and if you want to avoid scammers then avoid these two applications.

This very morning, a colleague in one of our platform brought a telegram related issue to platform seeking for help. He created a wallet on the app and store some funds there but unfortunately Telegram banned his number from accessing their services and that means automatic lose of funds. I don't know if there's a faster way to appeal for unban but I also have the same issue for over a year now and effort to unban the number prove abortive.

Telegram does not have an official app whereas TON has an app and a DEX. Do check before creating an app that does not represent Telegram's own wallet. Do not mix scammers with the TON ecosystem.

[Helena Yu]

Is ban on Telegram with a phone number common?

Why do Telegram Accounts Get Banned?

Telegram accounts can get banned for violating the app’s terms of service, including spamming, sharing illegal content, or engaging in malicious activities.
I believe it's more than that, if you pay someone who can create bunch telegram accounts and ask him to create mass reports to that account, I won't be surprised your friends account might got banned even though your friends did nothing. This is normal to someone who're popular or have something, other people are jealous with their achievements.

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It's too small, I can't see anything.

Probably you meant 500.

[Zaguru12]

I believe that TONcoin is only available in the Telegram wallet and that there are no other exchanges that provide functionality for trading this particular coin.

They are actually quite number of wallets that one can store TONcoin the most popular is the Metamask wallet which is open source and self custodial, while closed sources like Trust wallet, imtoken and even its own custom wallet outside the telegram is there. Some users just choose to do things that are actually strange in terms of securing their funds.

But hey it wouldn't surprise me that Nigeria of all places has their phone numbers banned, because of their government's hostility towards cryptocurrency in general.

Most of this ban aren’t related to the government hostility to cryptocurrencies but mostly by the telegram its self. Most of the users that usually get banned are those that farm airdrops and they start spamming different kind of groups or channels with their contents and most of them get reported and then get banned.

I have experience using (Telegram-Wallet) at the beginning of my journey in crypto, It's your friend are not exporting the private-key or wallet they're using. Even the service provider you are using telegram, I still remember the wallet usually created by their official project is always have option to export the wallet or at least a backup for the wallet they're using.

All contains your wallet address, none of backup are crazy mate.

I actually agree with you, I was myself although I didn’t used it check out a telegram wallet user interface. The wallet in question was BONKbot which is use to buy, store and sell Solana network based coins. I actually explored the wallet when I saw the report about something of a phishing attack on it and I hit the link and it generated an address for me and also exported out my private key which it stated that I can use on wallet like Solfare. So even if the OP’s friends has gotten is number banned, with a private key back up he can get access to that wallet again and then move out the funds to a more proper wallet, which should have been the case from starting

[cabron]

He created a wallet on the app and store some funds there but unfortunately Telegram banned his number from accessing their services and that means automatic lose of funds. I don't know if there's a faster way to appeal for unban but I also have the same issue for over a year now and effort to unban the number prove abortive.

I don't know that people can create a non custodial wallet with Telegram or it is all custodial. This article shows Telegram Wallet Bot is custodial.

Hreow to use Telegram wallet.re

There are other wallets, not Telegram Wallet Bot, and give non custodial controls. Your friend made bad decision to choose Telegram Wallet Bot.

https://ton.org/wallets

Is ban on Telegram with a phone number common?

Why do Telegram Accounts Get Banned?

Telegram accounts can get banned for violating the app’s terms of service, including spamming, sharing illegal content, or engaging in malicious activities.

Illegal stuff happening in Telegram that's why there are accounts banned, even channels off the terrorist are in telegram and also porn but I don't see the point of banning users only. What they should be banning are the creators of those channels and those users selling illegal stuff.

I tried depositing TRON USDT there, it seems like this is the only stablecoin they accept in Telegram wallet and it works well when you are just playing around. Do these Is it safer to use the wallet bot? casinos prefer users to use the Telegram wallet than using the Tonkeeper wallet?

[sokani]

So even if the OP’s friends has gotten is number banned, with a private key back up he can get access to that wallet again and then move out the funds to a more proper wallet, which should have been the case from starting

That's what I thought too and I think his friend did not backup his wallet. Telegram wallet has 2 backup methods, the email backup which is an online backup and the manual backup which involves writing down the seed phrase. If his friend was able to backup his seed phrase manually, he can easily import it into a TON wallet. I guess he did not and sadly this is the price he has to pay for his ignorance.

[1miau]

Good reminder, @knowngunman

After seeing how leniently Telegram handles Spam and Scam on their platform, I would stay away from entrusting them any amount of coins (even shitcoins  ).
Maybe you can still enlarge your picture, it's very small currently.

And hopefully funds can be recovered. Telegram should be able to access it.
Any way, it's really a big warning to avoid storing coins on Telegram-

[Ojima-ojo]

Who's sain person will store they money on telegram, with the level of insecurity and scams that exists on telegram I don't believe anyone could still trust any third party wallet being run on telegram, unless is the coin only existed on such wallet and as matter of fact, I will avoid any coin that is being held only via telegram wallet.


Don't do any serious deal on telegram other than just means of communication with other and if you don't even know the user you have to avoid talking to the to stay clear a d safe from telegram scams.

[LTU_btc]

I wasn't aware that Telegram has wallet. But it would be one of last places where I would keep my crypto. In general, Telegram probably is the most scammy social media app.
I hope that issue will get resolved somehow, but it will be good lesson.

In Spain, a court has recently banned Telegram groups, and the wallets are also questioned. The court's sentence has been provisionally suspended because it can violate fundamental rights, but I wouldn't rely on the mentioned services either, just in case: Spain has been the first case in the world, but who knows how can it could end in other places too.

Telegram was banned because of piracy on this platform, it's not related with scams. But now ban was suspended by other court. Spain aren't first country in the world who tried to ban Telegram. Russia tried to do it previously, but failed. Blocking Telegram isn't same like blocking one random website.

[nakamura12]

Have you tried to contact telegram to get the coins back and I am sure that they can access it. Anyway, did you ask your friend if there is a backup of the wallet?. I am sure your friend did see something after creating the wallet that says backup wallet by email and manually. If he did either of it then I think your friend can access the coins. I would say that other forum said that your friend did not backup his wallet after creating it even though he sees the warning about creating a wallet.

[suzanne5223]

This very morning, a colleague in one of our platform brought a telegram related issue to platform seeking for help. He created a wallet on the app and store some funds there but unfortunately Telegram banned his number from accessing their services and that means automatic lose of funds. I don't know if there's a faster way to appeal for unban but I also have the same issue for over a year now and effort to unban the number prove abortive.

I believe it's not something new that the idea of using a custodial wallet is a naive decision not to talk about using Telegram's built-in wallet despite the platform being deemed as a paradise for scammers.
This is 2024 and every crypto enthusiast should always think/examine the cons of a wallet before using it.
I have never seen a telegram account unban before so the chance of getting the crypto in the wallet back is not guaranteed but there's nothing bad in trying so therefore contact telegram support through email recover@telegram.org or Twitter @smstelegram.

[Coyster]

I don't know how the Telegram wallet works and i don't care to know because it is not an option for me to store any coins. Telegram is one platform with so much cases of scam and fraud, and that alone is enough reason not to use it to keep any of your money. Even if you want to store shitcoins, there are better wallets to use, wallets that are non-custodial and open source like Unstoppable wallet, then there are others like trust wallet that are not open source, but a better option for shitcoins than telegram wallet.

[tabas]

That sucks, I know that Telegram is trying to innovate and having some wallets on it is part of their plan. But knowing that they've been swarmed by scammers, and the customer service that they have is quite hard to reach. It's best to just use them as is being a messaging app. We've seen casinos building their platform on its own platform and it's not really appealling at all. Now, with vast projects that have been using them as a medium of communication to their users, I think this is the first time that I've seen someone who used them as a wallet and then the user's number got blocked by itself. Keep on appealling and contacting Telegram because if they're the one who blocked him, they are the only one who can unblock him as well.

[Outhue]

I have lost access to a few of my old telegram accounts due to the sim going bad or blocked and this means that everything related to that number is gone as well, this is why I hate using my phone number for any account creation, it's always best to use an email address and since Telegram will force phone number on users as the only means of registration then it's a big red flag.

If anything happens to that number, everything bad will happen to the accounts you used the phone number to create.

It's even more crazy now to store your digital coins and tokens on any crypto wallet that relies on your phone number to access, c'mon, that's straight-up stupid, do not use your phone number to create anything online.

Apart from losing the phone number you can be targeted by sim swap attacks too.

[knowngunman]

Telegram accounts can get banned for violating the app’s terms of service, including spamming, sharing illegal content, or engaging in malicious activities.
I believe it's more than that, if you pay someone who can create bunch telegram accounts and ask him to create mass reports to that account, I won't be surprised your friends account might got banned even though your friends did nothing. This is normal to someone who're popular or have something, other people are jealous with their achievements.

Well, if this is the case then Telegram has no standard of operation. Why would they ban a user just because multiple people reported the account without doing their own investigations? They ban my account for policy violations which I don't remember engaging that account with malicious activities. Perhaps, this is the reason for my ban.

Good reminder, @knowngunman

After seeing how leniently Telegram handles Spam and Scam on their platform, I would stay away from entrusting them any amount of coins (even shitcoins  ).
Maybe you can still enlarge your picture, it's very small currently.

And hopefully funds can be recovered. Telegram should be able to access it.
Any way, it's really a big warning to avoid storing coins on Telegram-

People derived happiness from experimenting what will eventually harm them. Users feedback about Telegram is enough reason to stay away from them. Even mere engagement is not considered secure talk more of storing your assets with them but yeah we are human, unless we fall victim before we learn. I have already told him to move on while he continues making efforts to recover the funds thou I doubt the possibility.

Noted, I will edit again to fit in. Thank you.

Have you tried to contact telegram to get the coins back and I am sure that they can access it. Anyway, did you ask your friend if there is a backup of the wallet?. I am sure your friend did see something after creating the wallet that says backup wallet by email and manually. If he did either of it then I think your friend can access the coins. I would say that other forum said that your friend did not backup his wallet after creating it even though he sees the warning about creating a wallet.

He has no back up for the wallet. I don't know how there back up system works but I try it yesterday after this post to see how the wallet looks like but I did not see anything like back up after creating the wallet. Perhaps, they have back up but manually export type. People might be easily carried away without a reminder to keep their back up safe.

[Catenaccio]

Telegram accounts can get banned for violating the app’s terms of service, including spamming, sharing illegal content, or engaging in malicious activities.
I believe it's more than that, if you pay someone who can create bunch telegram accounts and ask him to create mass reports to that account, I won't be surprised your friends account might got banned even though your friends did nothing. This is normal to someone who're popular or have something, other people are jealous with their achievements.

You must have enemies to receive attacks and get your account ban. Attacks from mass reports is one of reasons but it is barely and I don't believe government stays behind it.

Common bans can be scam. I know a Telegram account can be banned if massive reports on it sent to Telegram and maybe they will have to investigate before ban that account. They will not base on report numbers and ban one Telegram account.

For fake attacks, if appeal is accepted, I wonder will accounts of attackers will receive bans after Telegram investigation.

What Is “Scam” Label On Telegram?

[Crypt0Gore]

I like Toncoin but running the wallet on Telegram pissed me off so I let go of this project, its not a bad one at all but telegram is a bad choice for everything, I have never like it and nothing will change that.

Its not just Telegram only, be careful with crypto wallets on Opera browser too, and I see that a few other browsers are also adding crypto wallets too, they are not Trezor, and they are not Metamask, so be extremely careful with the crypto wallet that you choose to use.

I will advise to use the norm wallets that we are all used to, Trust wallet and Metamask for those who can't afford a hardware wallet, and Trezor with other open source hardware wallets are best choices.

[PhillipDe78]

It's a sad story...I don't know how it is now, but before telegram gave you the opportunity to attach mail to your account. Is there perhaps a way to restore access via email?

[Bananington]

Telegram accounts can get banned for violating the app’s terms of service, including spamming, sharing illegal content, or engaging in malicious activities.
I believe it's more than that, if you pay someone who can create bunch telegram accounts and ask him to create mass reports to that account, I won't be surprised your friends account might got banned even though your friends did nothing. This is normal to someone who're popular or have something, other people are jealous with their achievements.

Well, if this is the case then Telegram has no standard of operation. Why would they ban a user just because multiple people reported the account without doing their own investigations? They ban my account for policy violations which I don't remember engaging that account with malicious activities. Perhaps, this is the reason for my ban.

Good reminder, @knowngunman

After seeing how leniently Telegram handles Spam and Scam on their platform, I would stay away from entrusting them any amount of coins (even shitcoins  ).
Maybe you can still enlarge your picture, it's very small currently.

And hopefully funds can be recovered. Telegram should be able to access it.
Any way, it's really a big warning to avoid storing coins on Telegram-

People derived happiness from experimenting what will eventually harm them. Users feedback about Telegram is enough reason to stay away from them. Even mere engagement is not considered secure talk more of storing your assets with them but yeah we are human, unless we fall victim before we learn. I have already told him to move on while he continues making efforts to recover the funds thou I doubt the possibility.

Noted, I will edit again to fit in. Thank you.

Have you tried to contact telegram to get the coins back and I am sure that they can access it. Anyway, did you ask your friend if there is a backup of the wallet?. I am sure your friend did see something after creating the wallet that says backup wallet by email and manually. If he did either of it then I think your friend can access the coins. I would say that other forum said that your friend did not backup his wallet after creating it even though he sees the warning about creating a wallet.

He has no back up for the wallet. I don't know how there back up system works but I try it yesterday after this post to see how the wallet looks like but I did not see anything like back up after creating the wallet. Perhaps, they have back up but manually export type. People might be easily carried away without a reminder to keep their back up safe.

It seems we may have to really start settling to reading and scrutinizing the terms and agreement conditions of many of these online apps pretending to upgrade and innovate, without proper customer care representatives or contact that is responsive.

I thought it was a bad idea when I started seeing most browser apps and social media apps include crypto wallets in their upgrades.
I never want to store my funds in any  app that isn't related to the Blockchain technology activities or perform full exchange wallet functions, mostly when they have no secure key phrases to retrieve the wallet and I would till tomorrow advice against it.

[Moreno233]

I never believed that people can be so careless to use give their money to a social media platform like Telegram. I have to use this strong language because I feel bad at how people follow trends ignoring all safety measures. I knew when the Telegram Premium came on board with many features including this wallet. But I was never moved by the wallet aspect because I have always had in mind that "not your keys, not your coins". Anything that does not give me control over my coins is definitely a no no for me.

[joniboini]

It's a sad story...I don't know how it is now, but before telegram gave you the opportunity to attach mail to your account. Is there perhaps a way to restore access via email?

That option is only possible if he already registered an e-mail, but it's unclear if they can recover that if the phone number is banned. I find no explanation on their support page and the chance is likely slim[1]. CMIIW. At the end of the day, shouldn't have used a wallet like this to store money regardless of how popular the app is. Hopefully, OP's friend will learn the lesson and use better wallets for the future.

[1] https://telegram.org/faq

[m2017]

In my opinion, you need to use the software for its intended purpose without cluttering it with unnecessary functions. I mean that the Telegram program itself is intended for communication; initially, it was the most common communication between people. After groups appeared, now it is possible to add wallets. Telegram looks like a New Year tree, which is hung with different buns. At the same time, we regularly see various scams from Telegram groups and, of course, sudden blocking for actions that are incomprehensible to the owners themselves. By the way, Telegram can be hacked very easily; if you follow the links sent to you, one day you can become a victim of hacking, which once again proves that storing money separately is very smart and safe. There is no need to mix everything. Multifunctionality is only useful in the kitchen.

This is exactly the case, that the best program is a highly specialized program (performing one single function). If you want a good crypto wallet, use something like electrum, not a telegram wallet. I don't like it when apps are turned into multi-tools that can't properly perform the original function. As can be seen from OP’s story, the convenience provided by combines, like telegram, is fraught with unpleasant consequences. I would generally avoid these types of (custodial and centralized) wallets.

There is one more point. The more services are tied to one program, the more painful the failure of this app is (for example, loss of access to a telegram account). It is necessary to follow diversification (by purpose): instant messengers for communication, and separate wallets for storing and using cryptocurrencies (2 different purposes).

[Nwada001]

It's a sad story...I don't know how it is now, but before telegram gave you the opportunity to attach mail to your account. Is there perhaps a way to restore access via email?

The email they allow you to attach to your Telegram account is not a means to recover the account from ban, but it's an easy means to recover the account if it's been hacked by someone else. Let's say someone gained access to your telegram without your knowledge, or you set a password on your telegram and forgot the security password.
 
You can use the email to request recovery of the account and password resetting. It's just for security measures from outside intruders and not from Telegram itself, and the email they use in replying with such a request is the email that doesn't accept replies from senders.

[Benedictare]

   Telegram group of investments that promise 10 times of interest are not true but scams.
Telegram is not a safe platform for keeping Bitcoin ,if your Bitcoin is being stored on telegram wallet it is risky because it can be stolen and hacked easily by hackers since telegram is being used for illegal activities which also include drug trafficking and money laundering .

Telegram draws unwanted attention from scammers since they always want to take advantage of members , scammers poses a very big problem in the crypto community   these days, in other for you to avoid them, you need to avoid unknown files and links whenever you get them and don't click on them without carefully checking on them ,also check wallet address before sending .

A fake telegram apps can easily recognize Blockchain address from mere chats and then replace the users address with that of the scammers.

[Belarge]

I don't know how the Telegram wallet works and i don't care to know because it is not an option for me to store any coins. Telegram is one platform with so much cases of scam and fraud, and that alone is enough reason not to use it to keep any of your money. Even if you want to store shitcoins, there are better wallets to use, wallets that are non-custodial and open source like Unstoppable wallet, then there are others like trust wallet that are not open source, but a better option for shitcoins than telegram wallet.

I don't consider any points when it comes to using telegram. Telegram have taught me lesson in the market, I'm never working towards crypto news with telegram account except for communities which is very solid and strong. Who's beckoning on telegram this present day? Telegram have become one of the app that's been accessible by scammers and they utilized their scamming activities basically. They know the knots and ties of the space, they have everything to lure investors and traders to trade which is out of the picture for most of us.

[Abu-Naim]

A fake telegram apps can easily recognize Blockchain address from mere chats and then replace the users address with that of the scammers.

Generally, telegram is a social media platform that scammers love so much because how good they are there when it comes to scams and fraudulent activities. Everyone in this forum will always advise newbies against telegram because they can easily get scammed.
Not just a fake telegram app, even the original one is not safe with any of your asset not just crypto assets because telegram cannot be trusted.

Talking about telegram generated wallets, I think it is a bot wallets that helps users to buy coin easily to avoid network congestion, but most times, it is temporary wallet address that can get hacked anytime that is why only people with large community that can manipulate market or scam people with a particular coin do use it and withdraw their money immediately after gaining their profit.

[Awaklara]

I don't consider any points when it comes to using telegram. Telegram have taught me lesson in the market, I'm never working towards crypto news with telegram account except for communities which is very solid and strong. Who's beckoning on telegram this present day? Telegram have become one of the app that's been accessible by scammers and they utilized their scamming activities basically. They know the knots and ties of the space, they have everything to lure investors and traders to trade which is out of the picture for most of us.

That's because when registering for a Telegram account we can use virtual numbers that we can get for free from various countries. it's the same as other applications like WhatsApp.
but using a wallet from Telegram without security in your Telegram account would be very stupid. You can set a lock for your Telegram account. So people who want to take over your Telegram account won't have it easy if they don't have your account password key.

You have had this experience, hopefully, you realize your mistakes and don't repeat them in the future. There are more suggestions for using a better wallet, hopefully, you find the best one for you.

[moneystery]

of all the wallets, why do so many people choose telegram as a place to store their crypto, don't they think that at any time their telegram account could be banned or restricted by telegram? it's very funny to see how people innocently save and transact with ton on their telegram without knowing the fact that sooner or later it will be restricted by their government. no need to risk your money to buy ton and save it in your telegram account. just buy bitcoin and store it in your wallet, it is much more secure and trustworthy to own bitcoin compared to obscure tokens like that.

[God bless u]

I think we should wait a little for these types of apps especially when they launch these types of high sensitivity platforms on their apps. Seeing this from telegram is hard to believe but as you're saying that it had happened so it's alarming.

Actually we can't doubt telegram's intentions here as it's one of the high traffic messaging platforms but rather it could be a technical fault. As they have launched a new feature so the bugs will come around for sure and with time they'll be tackled and solved. There should be an option to apply for the case of your colleague. Go ahead and apply for it and I hope for a positive response from telegram.

[odunybiz]

I never believed that people can be so careless to use give their money to a social media platform like Telegram. I have to use this strong language because I feel bad at how people follow trends ignoring all safety measures. I knew when the Telegram Premium came on board with many features including this wallet. But I was never moved by the wallet aspect because I have always had in mind that "not your keys, not your coins". Anything that does not give me control over my coins is definitely a no no for me.

I have a question here please...., Can ones telegram premium account be bann? Most people made this mistake out of ignorance. It's another lesson for us just not to be so careless with our fund.

[DaNNy001]

Anytime I see any company meant to something else that starts adding wallet as a new feature, I just ignore it because I know it would not be a reliable source for wallets and the safe keeping of my assets. When I saw the new wallet feature telegram did, it just occurred to me that this is another legal way to loss your asset if anything happens to your account or telegram network. Just like the way, keeping your asset in an exchange is dangerous, storing them on telegram wallet is even more dangerous. This is the second time I've come across app that start offering the service of wallet.

Well for starters, telegram is definitely not a place that anyone would even think of doing anything aside from its communication purpose because the app has given himself a reputation that befits the abuse of it. Telegram is currently a ground hole for scammers and alot of them are very active finding and coursing for their next naive victim. If I had been the one seeing this then I would probably first have a wrong view about and probably even abandoned it as well.

[hd49728]

Well for starters, telegram is definitely not a place that anyone would even think of doing anything aside from its communication purpose because the app has given himself a reputation that befits the abuse of it. Telegram is currently a ground hole for scammers and alot of them are very active finding and coursing for their next naive victim. If I had been the one seeing this then I would probably first have a wrong view about and probably even abandoned it as well.

For starters, they have to learn to customize their Telegram account settings, and prevent scammers to reach in communication and avoid automatic downloads files, videos.

Telegram Scams
Disable Automatic Download
Do this if you don't want to be dragged to different telegram ICOs
Some Telegram tips for newcomers in the crypto community

[anna_20]

We should learn to use open source noncustodial wallets to store our funds of which telegram isn't. These wallets aren't paid for , they are free and well secured so why stress over wallets that aren't safe for your funds. As for your friend @ knowngunman, I really don't think he can recover his funds as I haven't seen anyone appealed before on telegram as was unbanned. Except his ban had a time duration.

I haven't bothered checking it out until after I made this post. I think it's accessible for every telegram users and not for only premium users. The interface wasn't bad and there is P2P service too though you need to verify your identity before taking part in it. However, there is a pop up display for the first time clicking the wallet icon where Telegram disclaim that the wallet is operated by independent party not affiliated with telegram. More reason for one to distant themselves from using such wallet.



I think this pop up message is alarming enough to make one stay away!

[Bushdark]

We need to be very careful about the telegram Wallet and I don't think I could ever put my money there since anything could happen.
Telegram wallet is not the best for me and I don't use them because it does not have any privacy. Anything could happen and your account could get ban without even knowing what could be the problem.
We need to be wise and always put our funds in a wallet than using to use social media to store it.

[Z390]

The old battle was with sim swapping, to gain access to peoples assets, and now that a good blockchain called Ton is using telegram as their main based wallet, they are giving more power to scammers to start going after people through their sims, I will never get into Ton unless they made their wallet available else where.

Or maybe if telegram start allowing users to registered a telegram account using email account and not sim cards, this is the most stupid thing to do.

Possible bad events

1. You wake up one day and your sim card is no more working.

2. You somehow lost your phone.

3.  Thieves working in network provider centers knowing about sim link with telegram accounts and the existence of TON network, a good way to hit the jackpot for them.

A real decentralized crypto project supposed to give users their revoveery seed without it having any relationship with users sim card, but since its running on telegram its a big turn off for me.

[Peanutswar]

Another charge to experience mistake, sorry for the loss, it's my first time seeing the use of the telegram for having a wallet, this platform is use most likely for socials, and can be used as a tool for storing too an image or other information if you don't have another choice, but storing of an asset with the use of the telegram I guess its a big no, this is not meant for. We know how the information is scattered on the internet, and most of the users binned their active numbers in their socials so possible a direct attack. That's another enlightenment to invest in a good security and wallet.

[Yaqs15]

I don't know how the Telegram wallet works and i don't care to know because it is not an option for me to store any coins. Telegram is one platform with so much cases of scam and fraud, and that alone is enough reason not to use it to keep any of your money. Even if you want to store shitcoins, there are better wallets to use, wallets that are non-custodial and open source like Unstoppable wallet, then there are others like trust wallet that are not open source, but a better option for shitcoins than telegram wallet.

Telegram! this name itself to me anytime I hear it, I don't get rest of mind because of a lot of shits that i have undergone. Telegram itself is full of scammers, i am a victim. Although, I don't have much knowledge about it but the little transaction i did with them, some of these transactions, i fell into the hands of scammers. since then, anything that would let me associate with them especially their wallets, I have to think and rethink again and again Up to hundred times. for me to be sure if it is guaranteed.

That sucks, I know that Telegram is trying to innovate and having some wallets on it is part of their plan. But knowing that they've been swarmed by scammers, and the customer service that they have is quite hard to reach. It's best to just use them as is being a messaging app. We've seen casinos building their platform on its own platform and it's not really appealling at all. Now, with vast projects that have been using them as a medium of communication to their users, I think this is the first time that I've seen someone who used them as a wallet and then the user's number got blocked by itself. Keep on appealling and contacting Telegram because if they're the one who blocked him, they are the only one who can unblock him as well.

I think the best way to use it is just for communication and passing of messages and information. but anything related to savings of coins, I am not there. It has happened to me before and will not be making sense if it should repeat itself again. Especially when you said that their customer care service provider is very difficult to reach. If God forbid one fall victim of any duping related issue, and urgently in need of their customer service assistance, what would you do? When already they are known to be so difficult to reach? You see! that's a very big problem. So I think the very way to operate with them is just to communicate and passing information. And even if you must do transaction, you have to be extra -extra careful.

[Kristiyana]

I don't know how the Telegram wallet works and i don't care to know because it is not an option for me to store any coins. Telegram is one platform with so much cases of scam and fraud, and that alone is enough reason not to use it to keep any of your money. Even if you want to store shitcoins, there are better wallets to use, wallets that are non-custodial and open source like Unstoppable wallet, then there are others like trust wallet that are not open source, but a better option for shitcoins than telegram wallet.

Telegram! this name itself to me anytime I hear it, I don't get rest of mind because of a lot of shits that i have undergone. Telegram itself is full of scammers, i am a victim. Although, I don't have much knowledge about it but the little transaction i did with them, some of these transactions, i fell into the hands of scammers. since then, anything that would let me associate with them especially their wallets, I have to think and rethink again and again Up to hundred times. for me to be sure if it is guaranteed.

That sucks, I know that Telegram is trying to innovate and having some wallets on it is part of their plan. But knowing that they've been swarmed by scammers, and the customer service that they have is quite hard to reach. It's best to just use them as is being a messaging app. We've seen casinos building their platform on its own platform and it's not really appealling at all. Now, with vast projects that have been using them as a medium of communication to their users, I think this is the first time that I've seen someone who used them as a wallet and then the user's number got blocked by itself. Keep on appealling and contacting Telegram because if they're the one who blocked him, they are the only one who can unblock him as well.

I think the best way to use it is just for communication and passing of messages and information. but anything related to savings of coins, I am not there. It has happened to me before and will not be making sense if it should repeat itself again. Especially when you said that their customer care service provider is very difficult to reach. If God forbid one fall victim of any duping related issue, and urgently in need of their customer service assistance, what would you do? When already they are known to be so difficult to reach? You see! that's a very big problem. So I think the very way to operate with them is just to communicate and passing information. And even if you must do transaction, you have to be extra -extra careful.

You got that right man, I think telegram is not a place to save your assets rather is a place where you interact with different people just like social media. However creating of wallet in telegram is a very big risk, I think someone who is with his right senses will never think of storing his assets in a telegram wallet. we have a lot of trusted and reliable wallet to store our coin, I'm pretty sure that nothing happens to those wallet, I think is only someone who does not know what he's doing that will choose telegram wallet over all this trusted and reliable wallet's either.

[Saint-loup]

The old battle was with sim swapping, to gain access to peoples assets, and now that a good blockchain called Ton is using telegram as their main based wallet, they are giving more power to scammers to start going after people through their sims, I will never get into Ton unless they made their wallet available else where.

Or maybe if telegram start allowing users to registered a telegram account using email account and not sim cards, this is the most stupid thing to do.

Possible bad events

1. You wake up one day and your sim card is no more working.

2. You somehow lost your phone.

3.  Thieves working in network provider centers knowing about sim link with telegram accounts and the existence of TON network, a good way to hit the jackpot for them.

A real decentralized crypto project supposed to give users their revoveery seed without it having any relationship with users sim card, but since its running on telegram its a big turn off for me.

You can use Telegram on PC or tablets and they have not SIM cards inside, so even if you lose your phone or if your sim card doesn't work anymore you can still use Telegram if you haven't disconnected your account on the other devices, and you can easily change your phone number even if you no longer have access to the old one. https://bugs.telegram.org/c/58
Against sim swapping, a two-step verification option is available, if you use it, the rubber of your smartphone or of your phone number will need to know your password to access your TG account. In addition you can set up a passcode on your wallet on top of it.
And of course, TON coins are available on non-custodial wallets, including the most common and the best known ones such as Trust Wallet, Ledger, SafePal, Tangem,...
https://ton.org/wallets

[Adbitco]

It's only someone who doesn't know much about cryptocurrency could go that extent to store their funds on telegram without even storing their asset in none custodian wallet. We should know how risky it's to entrust our heart earned money into telegram that usually or concurrent ban their user for any little slight mistake or when you post in a group and it's happens that they were reported then it leads to ban and restrictions without the owner having complete access to some groups and they will mistakingly go store their funds over there.

[boyptc]

I understand services like Telegram trying to adopt new technology and adding a lot of stuff on their platform. But for me, TG is as simple as a messaging app.

If it's about wallet needs, I'd sure go with the common ones although I am open to test new things but I will never ever trust them with sums of money getting deposited there.

Always save your assets in a safer wallet, we knew it for Bitcoin and as well as for multicurrency wallets.

[Saint-loup]

It's only someone who doesn't know much about cryptocurrency could go that extent to store their funds on telegram without even storing their asset in none custodian wallet. We should know how risky it's to entrust our heart earned money into telegram that usually or concurrent ban their user for any little slight mistake or when you post in a group and it's happens that they were reported then it leads to ban and restrictions without the owner having complete access to some groups and they will mistakingly go store their funds over there.

You shouldn't believe everything people say, especially when they are obviously shitposting like many people previously did in this thread.
Firstly, Telegram crypto wallet is not only available for premium users, contrary to what OP said. You can open and install it in your home menu through this channel https://t.me/wallet
Besides that there are 2 crypto wallets available on Telegram actually, and one of them TON Space is a real non-custodial one, you can fully access its mnemonic seed phrase and import it in any other wallet supporting TON coins, you can also recover its access through email.

Wallet and TON Space are two different wallets within the TON ecosystem. Wallet operates as a custodial service provider, whereas TON Space serves as a non-custodial wallet. Here are the main differences between them:

A custodial wallet is a service where the private keys (keys to access the wallet) are stored by the service. Examples of custodial wallets include centralized or private exchanges. This enables the service to offer unique features such as swaps, commission-free transfers, promotions, security settings, and more.

A non-custodial wallet grants users full control over their crypto assets, stored on their blockchain address. Only users have control over the private keys. Access to wallet and security control via Seed phrase are the main features of using non-custodial wallets. This provides users with bigger opportunities in ensuring the safety of their crypto assets, but also entails bigger responsibility.

With Wallet, you can easily purchase crypto by card, use the P2P Market and swap cryptos, such as TON, USDT and BTC.

TON Space gives you the opportunity to send and receive any Jettons and NFTs minted on TON, swap them and connect to decentralized applications (DApps).

https://wallet.helpscoutdocs.com/article/113-wallet-where-to-start#What-is-the-difference-between-Wallet-and-TON-Space-hMkji

[Adbitco]

It's only someone who doesn't know much about cryptocurrency could go that extent to store their funds on telegram without even storing their asset in none custodian wallet. We should know how risky it's to entrust our heart earned money into telegram that usually or concurrent ban their user for any little slight mistake or when you post in a group and it's happens that they were reported then it leads to ban and restrictions without the owner having complete access to some groups and they will mistakingly go store their funds over there.

You shouldn't believe everything people say, especially when they are obviously shitposting like many people previously did in this thread.
Firstly, Telegram crypto wallet is not only available for premium users, contrary to what OP said. You can open and install it in your home menu through this channel https://t.me/wallet
Besides that there are 2 crypto wallets available on Telegram actually, and one of them TON Space is a real non-custodial one, you can fully access its mnemonic seed and import it in any other wallet supporting TON coins, you can also recover its access through email.

Wallet and TON Space are two different wallets within the TON ecosystem. Wallet operates as a custodial service provider, whereas TON Space serves as a non-custodial wallet. Here are the main differences between them:

A custodial wallet is a service where the private keys (keys to access the wallet) are stored by the service. Examples of custodial wallets include centralized or private exchanges. This enables the service to offer unique features such as swaps, commission-free transfers, promotions, security settings, and more.

A non-custodial wallet grants users full control over their crypto assets, stored on their blockchain address. Only users have control over the private keys. Access to wallet and security control via Seed phrase are the main features of using non-custodial wallets. This provides users with bigger opportunities in ensuring the safety of their crypto assets, but also entails bigger responsibility.

With Wallet, you can easily purchase crypto by card, use the P2P Market and swap cryptos, such as TON, USDT and BTC.

TON Space gives you the opportunity to send and receive any Jettons and NFTs minted on TON, swap them and connect to decentralized applications (DApps).

https://wallet.helpscoutdocs.com/article/113-wallet-where-to-start#What-is-the-difference-between-Wallet-and-TON-Space-hMkji

Thank you for the elaboration, like what I see I think op just give the information according to his understanding maybe the information weren't conveyed fully to him so he could just gave expression base on the few information he had from the victim. Naturally I won't still have to use any wallet that is directly associated with TG although I can't actually give accurately if the wallet is a close source or an open source code wallet.

[riqo]

Telegram have to stay in their field of just message encryptation, wallets in telagram sells you out the idea of free crypto transactions with other telegram users but is the price that you will pay if you get banned or something is worth it?

[albon]

You can open and install it in your home menu through this channel https://t.me/wallet
Besides that there are 2 crypto wallets available on Telegram actually, and one of them TON Space is a real non-custodial one, you can fully access its mnemonic seed phrase and import it in any other wallet supporting TON coins, you can also recover its access through email.

This is a good explanation; the two wallets have a clear difference.

TON Space A non-custodial wallet is better than the Wallet, as the TON Space user can access and control his wallet through seed phrases even if his telegram account is banned. However, the downside of using these wallets is that they are centralized and operate according to regulatory requirements. If you read the article [Reviewing Transactions], it becomes clear that user transactions are fully reviewed by the wallet team, and it may take up to an hour to complete the review. They may also impose KYC or force the customer to provide documents such as proof of address and the source of funds.

Telegram wallets are undoubtedly a copy version of centralized platform wallets, so I do not see any advantage to using them despite the risks, delays, and user privacy disclosures that may leave them dissatisfied.

[Fuso.hp]

Probably the most scammed by a user is through Telegram. Many times it is seen that unknown person messages from Telegram account and tries to get to know the user in different ways. He started messaging me in a way that made it seem like he had known me for a long time and how loyal I was to him. When a new member does not catch their deception and when new members reply to his message, he tries to know various personal information through the message and before knowing the personal information, he first lures the user for money. Those who don't know may be greedy for money and often connect the user's website with their website and whenever the user makes a mistake the full access to the user's wallet goes to the fraudster. We need to be aware of these things, fraudsters will always change their cheating style yet we need to stay one step ahead of fraudsters so that we don't fall victim to fraud.

[Woodie]

Without attaching emotions to the problem faced by our friend here, If the user has used telegram without braking any T&C's then its a harsh decision to be honest , besides I don't think telegram just wakes up and bans people from without ..you must have done something to warrant the ban!!

I believe that TONcoin is only available in the Telegram wallet and that there are no other exchanges that provide functionality for trading this particular coin.

But hey it wouldn't surprise me that Nigeria of all places has their phone numbers banned, because of their government's hostility towards cryptocurrency in general.

This is a logical reason if our friend is from Nigeria, but are these guys up to date with the happenings of the world such that they implement whatever new laws government's make around the world.. Btw thought telegram was a safe haven for freedom when it comes to communication   otherwise this is a valid reason to explain the ban but coins need to be given to rightful owner!!

[SmartCharpa]

Though this is the first case I've seen about the telegram wallet, I think it should serve more as a warning for some lazy investors who prefer testing new projects than using the already made available secured opened source wallets to store their funds. For some reason I don't know why people don't think before making decisions.

Well, this is the first time I have heard about telegram wallet, even when I have been using telegram for many years now. I think this should be a lesson for him, I don't know how some people think or do their things when there are many exchanges to buy any coin we desire. I haven't seen this coin in any exchanges, I think that this project isn't worth purchasing right now, even though I have seen a lot of airdrops relating to it. When someone is new to trading, if they haven't experienced losing, they won't know where they are heading because no pain no gain. Next time I believe he won't rush into new projects.

As for your friend @ knowngunman, I really don't think he can recover his funds as I haven't seen anyone appealed before on telegram as was unbanned. Except his ban had a time duration.

There's no way he can recover his funds because it is very hard to recover a telegram account, many of my telegram accounts have been banned, but it's only one that I was able to recover and it takes 6 months when the ban duration is over. Like you said except his ban had duration time, he may have access to his funds, when the time is over.

[Mpamaegbu]

Telegram wallet has 2 backup methods, the email backup which is an online backup and the manual backup which involves writing down the seed phrase. If his friend was able to backup his seed phrase manually, he can easily import it into a TON wallet. I guess he did not and sadly this is the price he has to pay for his ignorance.

I was actually wondering if no one knew that the telegram wallet had seed words that could be used to recover the wallet manually until I read your piece. With the seedphrase intact, I don't think there's much anyone should be afraid of if a ban happens on their telegram account. All they've to do is import the seedphrase to a Ton app. It's that simple. However, until we know the direction telegram is going with its wallet and all that, I still feel users should be cautious with its wallet. Don't leave much funds there.

[dkbit98]

For several times, it has been discussed here that we should avoid storing assets in custodial wallet in order to avoid lose of funds. Telegram as one of the controversial social media platform has enabled wallet feature on their app for premium users. I read a thread here sometimes back asking how secure and reliable it is to use telegram wallet and many users here kicked against it (I can't find the thread as reference).

This telegram cryptocurrency wallet app is not available only for premium users, it is available as @wallet to everyone with telegram account.
I never used this wallet and I don't plan to ever do it, especially knowing how many scammers are lurking around there and sending random messages.
I think that only purpose for creating this telegram wallet was because of pumping of their TON token 

[knowngunman]

This telegram cryptocurrency wallet app is not available only for premium users, it is available as @wallet to everyone with telegram account.
I never used this wallet and I don't plan to ever do it, especially knowing how many scammers are lurking around there and sending random messages.
I think that only purpose for creating this telegram wallet was because of pumping of their TON token 

Oh yes! After the post, I made some little research about it and I discovered that it is available for every telegram users to use at their will without having to verify the telegram account. I purposely create the wallet to have more information about it and just like normal wallet, it's very easy to create and even have P2P services. Perhaps, people opt in for this wallet for conveniency but I think security should be top priority before convenience.

Maybe, it work for them and give a significant value to their coin as a starter but I will still prefer to use external wallet even if I want to invest in their coin. Telegram itself as a media app has no good name or perception that will give someone assurance to feel save entrusting funds under their control. Prevention they say, is better than cure.

[Saint-loup]

This is a good explanation; the two wallets have a clear difference.

TON Space A non-custodial wallet is better than the Wallet, as the TON Space user can access and control his wallet through seed phrases even if his telegram account is banned. However, the downside of using these wallets is that they are centralized and operate according to regulatory requirements. If you read the article [Reviewing Transactions], it becomes clear that user transactions are fully reviewed by the wallet team, and it may take up to an hour to complete the review. They may also impose KYC or force the customer to provide documents such as proof of address and the source of funds.

Telegram wallets are undoubtedly a copy version of centralized platform wallets, so I do not see any advantage to using them despite the risks, delays, and user privacy disclosures that may leave them dissatisfied.

What you say, is about the custodial wallet, because it's a centralized service and it doesn't use a blockchain. But if you send transactions through TON Space the non-custodial wallet, they will be processed by the TON blockchain, so the transaction fees will be higher, but the TG team won't be able to control it and to block it. If they wanted to block your account you would just need to import your seed into any external wallet supporting this cryptocurrency anyway.

[Uhwuchukwu53]

I don't know how the Telegram wallet works and i don't care to know because it is not an option for me to store any coins. Telegram is one platform with so much cases of scam and fraud, and that alone is enough reason not to use it to keep any of your money. Even if you want to store shitcoins, there are better wallets to use, wallets that are non-custodial and open source like Unstoppable wallet, then there are others like trust wallet that are not open source, but a better option for shitcoins than telegram wallet.

Just as you said so to me , I develop hatred over what has to do with telegram after been a victim through airdrop why then telegram when there is all sort of best option such as self custodian wallet and many others too numerous to mention, I don't say is not good because another man food is another man's poison the truth is that for me I can't advise someone to use telegram wallet where such will come is when is the only option.

[qwertyup23]

Whoah this is very interesting! I mean, I never knew that Telegram offers a feature where it has a designated wallet tied down to your number? Has your friend tried reaching out to Telegram and ask regarding the details on why his number was banned? Is there any way for you to contact the CS of Telegram in order to have more information about this?

A huge platform such as Telegram can get into huge trouble if they banned the number without providing any details as to how it was banned in the first place. Good thing you posted this for awareness OP as this can be crucial especially to newbies who are naive when it comes to downloading wallets from sketchy websites and platforms.

According to this website¹, if your number was banned, then you must reach out to their CS immediately, to wit:

If Telegram has blocked your number incorrectly during the signup process, you can reach out directly for assistance. Start by messaging @smstelegram on Twitter with your mobile number for issues not related to login. This team can assist in English and Russian.

1 https://controlhippo.com/blog/unban-telegram-number/#:~:text=If%20Telegram%20has%20blocked%20your,assist%20in%20English%20and%20Russian.

[pawanjain]

For several times, it has been discussed here that we should avoid storing assets in custodial wallet in order to avoid lose of funds. Telegram as one of the controversial social media platform has enabled wallet feature on their app for premium users. I read a thread here sometimes back asking how secure and reliable it is to use telegram wallet and many users here kicked against it (I can't find the thread as reference).

This very morning, a colleague in one of our platform brought a telegram related issue to platform seeking for help. He created a wallet on the app and store some funds there but unfortunately Telegram banned his number from accessing their services and that means automatic lose of funds. I don't know if there's a faster way to appeal for unban but I also have the same issue for over a year now and effort to unban the number prove abortive.

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Creating a secure non custodial wallet won't take up to ten minutes or even less. I don't know the level of conveniences these unsecured wallets offer that people tend to be making such mistakes of using them for their asset storage. Not your keys, not your coins has been an anthem for as old as crypto exits but we turn deaf ears until things get worse before we learn. This is not only applicable to Telegram wallet but to all wallets which you have no control over the phrases. It is as good as if you have no asset because the custodian can deny you access at any time.

What surprises me is there are still people who bother to create accounts on such platforms.
Telegram has been the safe haven for scammers and I wouldn't even think for a second to open a crypto wallet in Telegram.
I wonder how and why would any person open a crypto wallet in such third party platforms whereas they can create a non-custodial wallet in less than 10 minutes by themselves.
Have people become so lazy or are they really unaware of creating crypto wallets ?

[Pmalek]

I didn't even know that Telegram offers a custodial wallet service. That's how much I care about things like that.

There is absolutely no need to mix apples and oranges. If you want to use Telegram as a chat service, fine, do that. Don't also make it your wallet of choice because it's convenient. If my fridge added a crypto wallet next week, I am not going to use it just because it holds my meat and beer. 

Stick to proven brands that are working and have been around a long time. Stay away from the new and flashy things until they have established a proven track record. And lastly, stay away from custodial services for storing your coins no matter who provides them.

[Bushdark]

I don't know how the Telegram wallet works and i don't care to know because it is not an option for me to store any coins. Telegram is one platform with so much cases of scam and fraud, and that alone is enough reason not to use it to keep any of your money. Even if you want to store shitcoins, there are better wallets to use, wallets that are non-custodial and open source like Unstoppable wallet, then there are others like trust wallet that are not open source, but a better option for shitcoins than telegram wallet.

Just as you said so to me , I develop hatred over what has to do with telegram after been a victim through airdrop why then telegram when there is all sort of best option such as self custodian wallet and many others too numerous to mention, I don't say is not good because another man food is another man's poison the truth is that for me I can't advise someone to use telegram wallet where such will come is when is the only option.

Since the emergence of telegram Airdrop, that was when the telegram created their wallet so that users would not have to use other wallets other their telegram accounts. The telegram wallet is a red flag for me and even though I would have to use it, I can not deposit uoto $10 in the wallet because i know that would be a big risk for me.
As telegram users, we have to learn from other people's mistakes so that we don't end up to do the same thing losing our funds too.

[dkbit98]

Oh yes! After the post, I made some little research about it and I discovered that it is available for every telegram users to use at their will without having to verify the telegram account. I purposely create the wallet to have more information about it and just like normal wallet, it's very easy to create and even have P2P services. Perhaps, people opt in for this wallet for conveniency but I think security should be top priority before convenience.

Note that this is fully custodial wallet and you have no real control over your funds, you can't even backup anything and you can't recover your funds in some other ton wallet!
I would not hold anything on this wallet, especially not Bitcoin and larger amount of coins, only reason is possible to spend few Ton tokens to buy their phone numbers.

[Saint-loup]

Since the emergence of telegram Airdrop, that was when the telegram created their wallet so that users would not have to use other wallets other their telegram accounts. The telegram wallet is a red flag for me and even though I would have to use it, I can not deposit uoto $10 in the wallet because i know that would be a big risk for me.
As telegram users, we have to learn from other people's mistakes so that we don't end up to do the same thing losing our funds too.

I think there is a misunderstanding. TG custodial wallet isn't supposed to be a holding wallet for safely holding your assets, it's deemed to be a service allowing to easily, for free and instantly send or receive cryptos from any TG user without even knowing his wallet address.
So it's sad to hear that, because there are nearly 1 billion users according to TG company, so it could be a great chance to introduce cryptos to many people who have never used them before. In addition TG didn't forget BTC because the wallet deals with BTC along with TON and USDT. So hundreds millions people could simply exchanges BTC without fees if they want. There are always risks when you use centralized/custodial services, it's the same for any platform using cryptos. So not wanting to deposit more than $10 is a little bit harsh IMO. This service could greatly enhance BTC adoption actually.

[Bulltard]

For several times, it has been discussed here that we should avoid storing assets in custodial wallet in order to avoid lose of funds. Telegram as one of the controversial social media platform has enabled wallet feature on their app for premium users. I read a thread here sometimes back asking how secure and reliable it is to use telegram wallet and many users here kicked against it (I can't find the thread as reference).

This very morning, a colleague in one of our platform brought a telegram related issue to platform seeking for help. He created a wallet on the app and store some funds there but unfortunately Telegram banned his number from accessing their services and that means automatic lose of funds. I don't know if there's a faster way to appeal for unban but I also have the same issue for over a year now and effort to unban the number prove abortive.

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Creating a secure non custodial wallet won't take up to ten minutes or even less. I don't know the level of conveniences these unsecured wallets offer that people tend to be making such mistakes of using them for their asset storage. Not your keys, not your coins has been an anthem for as old as crypto exits but we turn deaf ears until things get worse before we learn. This is not only applicable to Telegram wallet but to all wallets which you have no control over the phrases. It is as good as if you have no asset because the custodian can deny you access at any time.

your friend used the tg wallet which has no pk... but it's linked to a ton space wallet... which has a pk.
send funds to the second one, not to the first

[promise444c5]

But hey it wouldn't surprise me that Nigeria of all places has their phone numbers banned, because of their government's hostility towards cryptocurrency in general.

This was April ....
It's much more worst now to the extent of monitoring  our bank transactions

[erep]

I don't know how the Telegram wallet works and i don't care to know because it is not an option for me to store any coins. Telegram is one platform with so much cases of scam and fraud, and that alone is enough reason not to use it to keep any of your money. Even if you want to store shitcoins, there are better wallets to use, wallets that are non-custodial and open source like Unstoppable wallet, then there are others like trust wallet that are not open source, but a better option for shitcoins than telegram wallet.

Just as you said so to me , I develop hatred over what has to do with telegram after been a victim through airdrop why then telegram when there is all sort of best option such as self custodian wallet and many others too numerous to mention, I don't say is not good because another man food is another man's poison the truth is that for me I can't advise someone to use telegram wallet where such will come is when is the only option.

Since the emergence of telegram Airdrop, that was when the telegram created their wallet so that users would not have to use other wallets other their telegram accounts. The telegram wallet is a red flag for me and even though I would have to use it, I can not deposit uoto $10 in the wallet because i know that would be a big risk for me.
As telegram users, we have to learn from other people's mistakes so that we don't end up to do the same thing losing our funds too.

I've rarely monitored airdrop developments lately, but recently I found out about a wallet from the Telegram bot application, but I didn't really pay attention to the wallet from the official Telegram service, but we have to be careful to avoid cases that have been reported above that Telegram users have been banned without notification and causing users have lost assets on their telegram accounts, in my opinion the telegram application will lose its reputation if they don't solve the problem of users who have lost assets due to being banned without warning notifications.

[johnsaributua]

The simplicity of the app, which includes both messaging and payment, with its lightweight storage, should be a plus among similar messaging apps. As I recall, there is a telegram setting to stay logged in on mobile or desktop for several months, because my telegram number is active and I always top up my internet quota every month. But that's not it, in the wallet ton space (beta) there is a backup phrase, even though it's the same internally for the latest telegram I have used it, then I imported it into the external ton keeper, you can try other ones as well because the wallet type is quite varied for ton. So far I don't dare to put any assets even if it's only 1$ into a wallet that hasn't been backed up, because the habit will get used to large assets. It is better to be careful from the beginning, because with conditions like this, what is definitely requested is the active phone number linked and maybe it is entirely the owner's decision and responsibility. Hopefully your problem can be given a solution step and can solve this problem wisely.

[Belarge]

Since the emergence of telegram Airdrop, that was when the telegram created their wallet so that users would not have to use other wallets other their telegram accounts. The telegram wallet is a red flag for me and even though I would have to use it, I can not deposit uoto $10 in the wallet because i know that would be a big risk for me.
As telegram users, we have to learn from other people's mistakes so that we don't end up to do the same thing losing our funds too.

Telegram wallets is never safe for anyone, I repeat. Telegram is not safe for airdrops but this is precisely the acceptable platform most developers and team suggest for their airdrop projects. I know it's important to follow the rules but we should also know the fact that none of us will be able to undo our actions when we finally get scammed. It's hard to illustrate the system but we should come out heating the surface and becoming the very taste desirable for ourselves.

[knowngunman]

Note that this is fully custodial wallet and you have no real control over your funds, you can't even backup anything and you can't recover your funds in some other ton wallet!
I would not hold anything on this wallet, especially not Bitcoin and larger amount of coins, only reason is possible to spend few Ton tokens to buy their phone numbers.

This is my assumption from the beginning but some replies under this thread pointed out that there's back up phrase and you can use it to access the wallet outside telegram app eg on TON wallet. I don't know if there's anything I'm missing but I created the wallet after the initial post to have a first hand experience and after the completion of wallet creation, I couldn't find anything related to recovery keys. Perhaps, one has to manually request for the recovery keys before being issued but whatever the case, it's not an ideal thing to store valuable assets in such wallets.

The simplicity of the app, which includes both messaging and payment, with its lightweight storage, should be a plus among similar messaging apps. As I recall, there is a telegram setting to stay logged in on mobile or desktop for several months, because my telegram number is active and I always top up my internet quota every month. But that's not it, in the wallet ton space (beta) there is a backup phrase, even though it's the same internally for the latest telegram I have used it, then I imported it into the external ton keeper, you can try other ones as well because the wallet type is quite varied for ton.

Many replies here have been saying there's a back up phrase, how and where do you people find the back phrase that allows you to import it into external ton wallet? Before replying here, I just checked the wallet again but can't find where. By the way, I'm not interested in using the wallet for now but I want to verify whether it truly has back up phrase.

[CryptSafe]

I thought of this for sometimes and decided to not make much mistake of opening a telegram wallet. If telegram can ban account then what is the fate of the assets or funds saved in that particular account registered with the banned phone number. This happens to be a challenging factor now and it is another aspect of thought for the telegram wallet team. To get an account unbanned is something not feasible for the moment and I believe that would pose a major challenge to both the telegram exchange and her customers for the time being.

[SATWAT]

I thought of this for sometimes and decided to not make much mistake of opening a telegram wallet. If telegram can ban account then what is the fate of the assets or funds saved in that particular account registered with the banned phone number. This happens to be a challenging factor now and it is another aspect of thought for the telegram wallet team. To get an account unbanned is something not feasible for the moment and I believe that would pose a major challenge to both the telegram exchange and her customers for the time being.

After reading too many things around now I have understanding going with wallets like these are never been good idea because things can be gone into wrong way, and we can lose our assets which is not good deal, and you are right once they can ban you then you can also lose these assets which are also problem so avoiding these wallets are the best option with staying here only for the chat is good but doing any other activity is never been good and ideal deal.
Telegram needs to be more advance about this with currently many things are helpful for the scammers which are surely not good, but they can improve their things which will be helpful for the crypto world.

[Kelvinid]

A lack of knowledge about cryptocurrency, in general, will lead to the installation of unsecured wallet apps.
A reason why even today, many people still lose their money. Sad to say that we just learned how to rightly choose a wallet to store our coins and secure our funds when we already experience losses. I don't know but I see this as a common instinct by most and I hope this will change knowing that there is always a way to avoid it. We have to keep in mind that scammers don't give us mercy, they will take everything we have once they get an entry into our wallet.
Let us educate ourselves first rather than educate ourselves later.

[armanda90]

Its main problem with telegram account got banned without any reminder or abnormal activities of our account, I used telegram for updating some signal cryptocurrency trading and usually use for joining airdrop project. But many time my account suspended without any reason why is happening, I don't see any recommended using telegram wallet behind easily account got banned and potential loss all our assets after losing access to telegram account.
For holding or saving assets based on TON network using Tonkeeper as application or has crhome add on with feature saving seed phrase, its not problem when application removing still has access trough seed phrase. Don't use wallet with easily how to access their account got banned without any way for recovering, for telegram account suspended I don't think any ideas how to recovery back.

[Jegileman]

Creating a secure non custodial wallet won't take up to ten minutes or even less. I don't know the level of conveniences these unsecured wallets offer that people tend to be making such mistakes of using them for their asset storage. Not your keys, not your coins has been an anthem for as old as crypto exits but we turn deaf ears until things get worse before we learn. This is not only applicable to Telegram wallet but to all wallets which you have no control over the phrases. It is as good as if you have no asset because the custodian can deny you access at any time.

Telegram is a social media platform and aside from anything relating to media that it can be used for, no any other innovations from them should be considered reliable, authentic or secured. Their wallets are a very big centralized wallets and anyone using or trading with them are on the brink of losing all of their funds. I have heard about the telegram wallet but I haven’t read about it or even knew it is for premium users only. This serves as a wake up call to those using it and those intending to use it. You don’t need to do anything relating to violation of the rule by transacting, even by your account been tagged for spamming or other social media related offences, your account will just be blocked or suspended forever. And with the information you just shared, I don’t think it is easily retrievable when blocked or suspended. It is better to stay away from it now than to be a victim of that.

[sheenshane]

Let us educate ourselves first rather than educate ourselves later.

It's a simple advice to secure your wallet.

First, we should know the basic principle of storing our Bitcoin safely.
Telegram?  Isn't sound safe to me.  You didn't hold your key.

[RockBell]

Telegram is a social media platform and aside from anything relating to media that it can be used for, no any other innovations from them should be considered reliable, authentic or secured. Their wallets are a very big centralized wallets and anyone using or trading with them are on the brink of losing all of their funds. I have heard about the telegram wallet but I haven’t read about it or even knew it is for premium users only. This serves as a wake up call to those using it and those intending to use it. You don’t need to do anything relating to violation of the rule by transacting, even by your account been tagged for spamming or other social media related offences, your account will just be blocked or suspended forever. And with the information you just shared, I don’t think it is easily retrievable when blocked or suspended. It is better to stay away from it now than to be a victim of that.

The purpose of telegram is for networking, i once used a telegram wallet once and it was successful and that was the first and last time i used it so i don't know if they improved it or not but using it was not interesting the futures were lame since it was not is purpose to perform such act and my problem with the telegram wallet it will even be very easy for people to hack, starting from if they can have access to your telegram account then the rest will be an easy one so its just like the disadvantages are more than the advantage we know people are thirsty for change. this kind of change is a risky one. we know the level of security that wallets have telegram can not have such wallet.  i don't think i will use it again because the security of my money matters a lot to me, considering a telegram wallet is a no for me.

[Bulltard]

Telegram?  Isn't sound safe to me.  You didn't hold your key.

Actually you do 

[johnsaributua]

Many replies here have been saying there's a back up phrase, how and where do you people find the back phrase that allows you to import it into external ton wallet? Before replying here, I just checked the wallet again but can't find where. By the way, I'm not interested in using the wallet for now but I want to verify whether it truly has back up phrase.

It is never too late to anticipate, because when we do our best to keep the phrase confidential is very important, because storage is the ultimate goal when we hunt crypto in any way.

First enter the telegram internal ton wallet then click the 3 dots on the top right, select settings and check the ton space beta and the menu appears as in step 1, select ton space in step 2 and step 3 appears, you are instructed to create a wallet or import 24 secret words, I gave an example of making the initial and select Manually as in picture 5 click continue as in the general wallet and your wallet is copied (best handwritten on paper) and you can store it calmly or can be exported to the external ton wallet.

STEP 1

STEP 2

STEP 3

STEP 4

STEP 5

STEP 6

STEP 7

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You can also delete and replace a new wallet at any time, select 3 dots on the top right select ton space beta and an image will appear as below, and you remove ton space follow the guidelines and finish.



Hopefully useful.

[Lamkuthang]

If such a case is very risky, it means that the user's funds are easily lost. I also get a lot of notifications and offers if you use their wallet there will be a free fee in USDT shipping fees but it is required to deposit some USDT in order to be active

Yes. This is a new experience and news and that's why you prefer to use Tonkeeper Wallet for TON instead of the type of wallet in the Telegram application using a mobile phone and most recently there is now an Earn campaign for Notcoins which lasts until May 25 on the Telegram channel. So be more careful if this is the story.

[Saint-loup]

Many replies here have been saying there's a back up phrase, how and where do you people find the back phrase that allows you to import it into external ton wallet? Before replying here, I just checked the wallet again but can't find where. By the way, I'm not interested in using the wallet for now but I want to verify whether it truly has back up phrase.

Actually the non-custodial wallet is in the custodial wallet. You need to create it there, as explain by johnsaributua above you have to activate the "TON Space" there, it's the name the non-custodial wallet in fact. Telegram will show your seed phrase when you'll create it and you will be able to access it in the Settings menu of the TON Space wallet everytime you need to remind it fortunately. But when you send TON with this wallet you will have to pay some fees because transactions will be sent onto the TON blockchain, contrary to transactions made with the custodial wallet.

[Fiasem20]

I've been hearing of telegram wallet and how investors have lost their coin in telegram wallet.Initially telegram is a social media where users pass informations online,not until it became a wallet where it's users can store,send and receive cyptrocurrency.Telegram wallet is not safe to store your coin,this message you've passed will serve as a warning to those investors that wants to try everything new in the crypto space.Store your coin in a non custodial wallet,even the newbies on the forum are aware because of how it's been repeated 24/7 on the forum.