Becareful with telegram wallet!

[knowngunman]

For several times, it has been discussed here that we should avoid storing assets in custodial wallet in order to avoid lose of funds. Telegram as one of the controversial social media platform has enabled wallet feature on their app for premium users. I read a thread here sometimes back asking how secure and reliable it is to use telegram wallet and many users here kicked against it (I can't find the thread as reference).

This very morning, a colleague in one of our platform brought a telegram related issue to platform seeking for help. He created a wallet on the app and store some funds there but unfortunately Telegram banned his number from accessing their services and that means automatic lose of funds. I don't know if there's a faster way to appeal for unban but I also have the same issue for over a year now and effort to unban the number prove abortive.




Creating a secure non custodial wallet won't take up to ten minutes or even less. I don't know the level of conveniences these unsecured wallets offer that people tend to be making such mistakes of using them for their asset storage. Not your keys, not your coins has been an anthem for as old as crypto exits but we turn deaf ears until things get worse before we learn. This is not only applicable to Telegram wallet but to all wallets which you have no control over the phrases. It is as good as if you have no asset because the custodian can deny you access at any time.

[Hatchy]

Though this is the first case I've seen about the telegram wallet, I think it should serve more as a warning for some lazy investors who prefer testing new projects than using the already made available secured opened source wallets to store their funds. For some reason I don't know why people don't think before making decisions. When this telegram wallet came about, I saw it on my telegram app though the interface looked good but still, you should remember that these are owned by centralized bodies and might not even be official making it unsafe for storing funds. A lot of time, telegram would white ban a mobile number for reasons that are not disclosed so what more will storing funds in there. Though I've never tried to ask for an appeal for my mobile no which had been banned for no reason.

We should learn to use open source noncustodial wallets to store our funds of which telegram isn't. These wallets aren't paid for , they are free and well secured so why stress over wallets that aren't safe for your funds. As for your friend @ knowngunman, I really don't think he can recover his funds as I haven't seen anyone appealed before on telegram as was unbanned. Except his ban had a time duration.

[lovesmayfamilis]

In my opinion, you need to use the software for its intended purpose without cluttering it with unnecessary functions. I mean that the Telegram program itself is intended for communication; initially, it was the most common communication between people. After groups appeared, now it is possible to add wallets. Telegram looks like a New Year tree, which is hung with different buns. At the same time, we regularly see various scams from Telegram groups and, of course, sudden blocking for actions that are incomprehensible to the owners themselves. By the way, Telegram can be hacked very easily; if you follow the links sent to you, one day you can become a victim of hacking, which once again proves that storing money separately is very smart and safe. There is no need to mix everything. Multifunctionality is only useful in the kitchen.

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[NotATether]

I believe that TONcoin is only available in the Telegram wallet and that there are no other exchanges that provide functionality for trading this particular coin.

But hey it wouldn't surprise me that Nigeria of all places has their phone numbers banned, because of their government's hostility towards cryptocurrency in general.

[Nwada001]

Why will the guy even save funds on a wallet? You know that your number is the only access you have to the telegram, and when this wallet is created, there is nothing like a given phrase that you can use to gain access to the wallet outside the telegram, so at least even if your number is banned, you can still gain access to it. Even if it's not open source, at least it gives you a little opportunity to recover whatever's lost in that wallet.
 
He can keep on trying to recover the banned number, but he should not put all his hope in the idea that it's ever going to get unbanned. One thing about getting an account that has funds banned is that it's very hard for it to get unbanned because the company has more to gain than lose at this point in time.

[knowngunman]

We should learn to use open source noncustodial wallets to store our funds of which telegram isn't. These wallets aren't paid for , they are free and well secured so why stress over wallets that aren't safe for your funds. As for your friend @ knowngunman, I really don't think he can recover his funds as I haven't seen anyone appealed before on telegram as was unbanned. Except his ban had a time duration.

I haven't bothered checking it out until after I made this post. I think it's accessible for every telegram users and not for only premium users. The interface wasn't bad and there is P2P service too though you need to verify your identity before taking part in it. However, there is a pop up display for the first time clicking the wallet icon where Telegram disclaim that the wallet is operated by independent party not affiliated with telegram. More reason for one to distant themselves from using such wallet.

I have taken several measures for my number to be unban too but to no avail. Their bot even warned that deleting your account and creating a new one with same number won't change anything and that might even lead to blacklist since you're attempting to bypass the ban.

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Thank you, edited appropriately.

But hey it wouldn't surprise me that Nigeria of all places has their phone numbers banned, because of their government's hostility towards cryptocurrency in general.

It is possible but I don't think that's the case here. Perhaps, some activities they considered against their policies is the reason for things like this in most cases.

[Catenaccio]

He created a wallet on the app and store some funds there but unfortunately Telegram banned his number from accessing their services and that means automatic lose of funds. I don't know if there's a faster way to appeal for unban but I also have the same issue for over a year now and effort to unban the number prove abortive.

I don't know that people can create a non custodial wallet with Telegram or it is all custodial. This article shows Telegram Wallet Bot is custodial.

How to use Telegram wallet.

There are other wallets, not Telegram Wallet Bot, and give non custodial controls. Your friend made bad decision to choose Telegram Wallet Bot.

https://ton.org/wallets

Is ban on Telegram with a phone number common?

Why do Telegram Accounts Get Banned?

Telegram accounts can get banned for violating the app’s terms of service, including spamming, sharing illegal content, or engaging in malicious activities.

[Davidvictorson]

I am sorry about your colleague's experience with the Telegram wallet. We have a human, moral, and ethical obligation to tell our friends with common interests about crypto scams, telegram wallet scams which we discover before them so that they do not fall victim. Not blaming you though but imagine if your friend had heard about this telegram wallet issue earlier from you.

I do not believe that telegram wallet is a custodial wallet. It worse than that. With telegram wallet aside them not having a support you can contact, they will scam you straight up without the need for any of their user facilitating it. For those who may not know it yet, if you still use telegram for chats, just know that they are not encrypted by default.

[348Judah]

I can't make use of a telegram wallet neither will I adhere to the use of any mobile browser app wallet as well, if a wallet is a custodial wallet, then it's not completely safe for our usage, because we have no access to it's private keys, same as well we shouldn't consider perfect safety in using a close source non custodial wallet, also, we have to be careful on the kind of 2allet we use, such must be an open source non custodial wallet

[ryzaadit]

Basically, the problem is because (Number Getting Block) by Telegram.

I have experience using (Telegram-Wallet) at the beginning of my journey in crypto, It's your friend are not exporting the private-key or wallet they're using. Even the service provider you are using telegram, I still remember the wallet usually created by their official project is always have option to export the wallet or at least a backup for the wallet they're using.

All contains your wallet address, none of backup are crazy mate.

[Makus]

Anytime I see any company meant to something else that starts adding wallet as a new feature, I just ignore it because I know it would not be a reliable source for wallets and the safe keeping of my assets. When I saw the new wallet feature telegram did, it just occurred to me that this is another legal way to loss your asset if anything happens to your account or telegram network. Just like the way, keeping your asset in an exchange is dangerous, storing them on telegram wallet is even more dangerous. This is the second time I've come across app that start offering the service of wallet.

[Porfirii]

In Spain, a court has recently banned Telegram groups, and the wallets are also questioned. The court's sentence has been provisionally suspended because it can violate fundamental rights, but I wouldn't rely on the mentioned services either, just in case: Spain has been the first case in the world, but who knows how can it could end in other places too.

[pakhitheboss]

My question to you is why being a member of this forum you would still believe that Telegram is good and it will not harm you. Every chat application like Telegram are a den for those who are known as scammers. Do a Google search and you will find so many scams happening on the two most popular chat applications. Whatsapp and Telegram and if you want to avoid scammers then avoid these two applications.

This very morning, a colleague in one of our platform brought a telegram related issue to platform seeking for help. He created a wallet on the app and store some funds there but unfortunately Telegram banned his number from accessing their services and that means automatic lose of funds. I don't know if there's a faster way to appeal for unban but I also have the same issue for over a year now and effort to unban the number prove abortive.

Telegram does not have an official app whereas TON has an app and a DEX. Do check before creating an app that does not represent Telegram's own wallet. Do not mix scammers with the TON ecosystem.

[Helena Yu]

Is ban on Telegram with a phone number common?

Why do Telegram Accounts Get Banned?

Telegram accounts can get banned for violating the app’s terms of service, including spamming, sharing illegal content, or engaging in malicious activities.
I believe it's more than that, if you pay someone who can create bunch telegram accounts and ask him to create mass reports to that account, I won't be surprised your friends account might got banned even though your friends did nothing. This is normal to someone who're popular or have something, other people are jealous with their achievements.

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It's too small, I can't see anything.

Probably you meant 500.

[Zaguru12]

I believe that TONcoin is only available in the Telegram wallet and that there are no other exchanges that provide functionality for trading this particular coin.

They are actually quite number of wallets that one can store TONcoin the most popular is the Metamask wallet which is open source and self custodial, while closed sources like Trust wallet, imtoken and even its own custom wallet outside the telegram is there. Some users just choose to do things that are actually strange in terms of securing their funds.

But hey it wouldn't surprise me that Nigeria of all places has their phone numbers banned, because of their government's hostility towards cryptocurrency in general.

Most of this ban aren’t related to the government hostility to cryptocurrencies but mostly by the telegram its self. Most of the users that usually get banned are those that farm airdrops and they start spamming different kind of groups or channels with their contents and most of them get reported and then get banned.

I have experience using (Telegram-Wallet) at the beginning of my journey in crypto, It's your friend are not exporting the private-key or wallet they're using. Even the service provider you are using telegram, I still remember the wallet usually created by their official project is always have option to export the wallet or at least a backup for the wallet they're using.

All contains your wallet address, none of backup are crazy mate.

I actually agree with you, I was myself although I didn’t used it check out a telegram wallet user interface. The wallet in question was BONKbot which is use to buy, store and sell Solana network based coins. I actually explored the wallet when I saw the report about something of a phishing attack on it and I hit the link and it generated an address for me and also exported out my private key which it stated that I can use on wallet like Solfare. So even if the OP’s friends has gotten is number banned, with a private key back up he can get access to that wallet again and then move out the funds to a more proper wallet, which should have been the case from starting

[cabron]

He created a wallet on the app and store some funds there but unfortunately Telegram banned his number from accessing their services and that means automatic lose of funds. I don't know if there's a faster way to appeal for unban but I also have the same issue for over a year now and effort to unban the number prove abortive.

I don't know that people can create a non custodial wallet with Telegram or it is all custodial. This article shows Telegram Wallet Bot is custodial.

Hreow to use Telegram wallet.re

There are other wallets, not Telegram Wallet Bot, and give non custodial controls. Your friend made bad decision to choose Telegram Wallet Bot.

https://ton.org/wallets

Is ban on Telegram with a phone number common?

Why do Telegram Accounts Get Banned?

Telegram accounts can get banned for violating the app’s terms of service, including spamming, sharing illegal content, or engaging in malicious activities.

Illegal stuff happening in Telegram that's why there are accounts banned, even channels off the terrorist are in telegram and also porn but I don't see the point of banning users only. What they should be banning are the creators of those channels and those users selling illegal stuff.

I tried depositing TRON USDT there, it seems like this is the only stablecoin they accept in Telegram wallet and it works well when you are just playing around. Do these Is it safer to use the wallet bot? casinos prefer users to use the Telegram wallet than using the Tonkeeper wallet?

[sokani]

So even if the OP’s friends has gotten is number banned, with a private key back up he can get access to that wallet again and then move out the funds to a more proper wallet, which should have been the case from starting

That's what I thought too and I think his friend did not backup his wallet. Telegram wallet has 2 backup methods, the email backup which is an online backup and the manual backup which involves writing down the seed phrase. If his friend was able to backup his seed phrase manually, he can easily import it into a TON wallet. I guess he did not and sadly this is the price he has to pay for his ignorance.

[1miau]

Good reminder, @knowngunman

After seeing how leniently Telegram handles Spam and Scam on their platform, I would stay away from entrusting them any amount of coins (even shitcoins  ).
Maybe you can still enlarge your picture, it's very small currently.

And hopefully funds can be recovered. Telegram should be able to access it.
Any way, it's really a big warning to avoid storing coins on Telegram-

[Ojima-ojo]

Who's sain person will store they money on telegram, with the level of insecurity and scams that exists on telegram I don't believe anyone could still trust any third party wallet being run on telegram, unless is the coin only existed on such wallet and as matter of fact, I will avoid any coin that is being held only via telegram wallet.


Don't do any serious deal on telegram other than just means of communication with other and if you don't even know the user you have to avoid talking to the to stay clear a d safe from telegram scams.

[LTU_btc]

I wasn't aware that Telegram has wallet. But it would be one of last places where I would keep my crypto. In general, Telegram probably is the most scammy social media app.
I hope that issue will get resolved somehow, but it will be good lesson.

In Spain, a court has recently banned Telegram groups, and the wallets are also questioned. The court's sentence has been provisionally suspended because it can violate fundamental rights, but I wouldn't rely on the mentioned services either, just in case: Spain has been the first case in the world, but who knows how can it could end in other places too.

Telegram was banned because of piracy on this platform, it's not related with scams. But now ban was suspended by other court. Spain aren't first country in the world who tried to ban Telegram. Russia tried to do it previously, but failed. Blocking Telegram isn't same like blocking one random website.