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April 08, 2024, 08:30:49 PM
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We are in an era where artificial intelligence and supercomputers can perform many tasks accurately. We have reports of some AI tools passing law school examinations and some of them have performed some complex surgeries in the medical field. With these technological tools, the word impossible is gradually becoming obsolete.

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%,  Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.

While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?


Further reading
Opta supercomputer predicts Man City and Arsenal's chances of winning the Champions League as Real Madrid leapfrog European giants in latest analysis

A supercomputer is tracking one of most exciting soccer title races for years. It keeps coming up with different predictions

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April 08, 2024, 08:46:47 PM
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If the last prediction where it says  Liverpool will win and did happen then it might just be a coincidence but if the 2nd time Manchester City will win, I think there is got to be truth to this supercomputer you are saying. But why don't you try betting to see if it predicts right?  

It's been talked about that AI in sports betting might just be useful for us but I didn't expect it to happen so soon. I am assuming the AIs will need to pull data from millions of bettors and pick the bettors who have been predicting winners all the time and that's what AIs will predict as the outcome as well.

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April 08, 2024, 08:47:53 PM
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Firstly, I will have to ask is it humans that are going to play this matches? If yes then you're likely to understand what I'm taking about.

This supercomputers are just capable of doing maths that are automated on it by the manufacturers and whatever that has to do with humans are always very confusing as we humans do not even trust ourselves to our next minutes, hence no matter how smart this computers become I don't believe they will have any accurate predictions.
What we can see from this supercomputers are that they depend on the opinions or the suggestions of humans to make their predictions, and as long as this gambling related stuffs aren't mathematical/scientific computers will find it very hard to make correct predictions because they will depend on our biased opinions and observations to make their predictions.

You can have a different perception of the supercomputers but this is mine.

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April 08, 2024, 08:56:02 PM
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By supercomputers I think we all agree that it is AI.
Well for any predictions, it depends on probability and mathematical and statistical equations based on past records and present form. It is no different from what a professor or STEM student who is interested in gambling would do. There's already some AI components embedded in some Sports books websites and many people depend or count their analysis as reliable.

But not all AI are reliable.. it's reliability and accuracy is dependent on its features and how much you pay for it.

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April 08, 2024, 09:16:40 PM
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Do you think these predictions are reliable?
They are not reliable. From my experience in sports betting, you can easily know that there is nothing reliable to give you what could most likely be the outcome of matches that have not yet been played. I am good in analyzing the market and compare my work with prediction sites which will be almost the same to what my analysis says. AI can not do it more than that and it will fail like the prediction sites because prediction sites are not 70% accurate.

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April 08, 2024, 09:33:38 PM
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It's not the question of reliability, but whether we should follow them. So for me no, at least I still have my analysis on games and I will stand by what I saw and bet and predicted instead of following supercomputers or AI to make the bet for me. There is also one thread about UFC/MMA predictions by AI and I don't think it went good (maybe I'm wrong). But if you are a sport fans, this will take away the or defeat being like that, strong passion, interest, and enthusiasm for the sports you follow and then you're going to put a line base on what you see and then the excitement after winning huge, whether ML or multi-betting.

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April 08, 2024, 09:57:41 PM
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I will not depend on game predictions by supercomputers because predicting the outcome of sports events involves numerous variables, many of which can be unpredictable or subject to change. Factors such as player injuries, team dynamics, weather conditions, and unexpected game events can significantly influence the outcome, often in ways that even the most advanced algorithms may struggle to anticipate accurately.

Supercomputers can analyze vast amounts of data and identify patterns that humans might overlook but there are inherent limitations to their predictive capabilities. The future of sports events remains inherently uncertain, and no prediction model can guarantee complete accuracy, so I think these predictions are not reliable.

While the predictions offered by supercomputers may provide valuable insights and serve as a reference point for decision-making, I think supplementing them with other forms of analysis and intuition is still needed. For me, the element of thrill would disappear if it became predictable and if it was eliminated by any technological advancement.

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April 08, 2024, 10:26:30 PM
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If the last prediction where it says  Liverpool will win and did happen then it might just be a coincidence but if the 2nd time Manchester City will win, I think there is got to be truth to this supercomputer you are saying. But why don't you try betting to see if it predicts right?  

It's been talked about that AI in sports betting might just be useful for us but I didn't expect it to happen so soon. I am assuming the AIs will need to pull data from millions of bettors and pick the bettors who have been predicting winners all the time and that's what AIs will predict as the outcome as well.

I will have to state it categorically that the same way humans predict matches that how AI does, less we forget that AI are coded to perform the commands of humans, the head to head statistics of teams are coded in it for it to give it's predictions, if AI predictions comes as expected then we should know that it is meant to be like that but on know account we should attribute it to accuracy because as far as a football match is concerned, no one knows the outcome of any match.
In the aspect of combining many predictors data and use the one that is likely possible to come as their prediction tips as you said, anyway it is an assumption, AI works with previous and current form of a team for it predictions and it is normal but accuracy will not be guaranteed because it is a mere predicting bots that's built by human being to perform different function with command. 

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This is interesting, if you don't mind, will you be able to make updates regarding the supercomputer's predictions? It would be interesting to see what their win/loss percentage would be in the long run.

anyway, at the moment, I don't plan trusting a supercomputer to make a decision for me when I am betting in sports. There is a sense of accomplishment when your prediction came true that you wouldn't get from relying to a supercomputer.

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April 08, 2024, 10:50:40 PM
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While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?



Remember that we’re dealing with sports that can be affected by a number of factors - and me relying on a supercomputer or as other called it AI is really a nice idea. It is quite obvious that the prediction made above can turn out to be wrong (we just have to wait and see).

I still believe it’s still too early to decide whether I’ll go for it or not, but currently I’m against it - there have been quite of number of things that we claimed we won’t do but later hopped in after discovering some hidden information and I believe same could apply to this supercomputer prediction.

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April 08, 2024, 10:54:03 PM
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We are in an era where artificial intelligence and supercomputers can perform many tasks accurately. We have reports of some AI tools passing law school examinations and some of them have performed some complex surgeries in the medical field. With these technological tools, the word impossible is gradually becoming obsolete.

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%,  Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.

While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?


Further reading
Opta supercomputer predicts Man City and Arsenal's chances of winning the Champions League as Real Madrid leapfrog European giants in latest analysis

/2024/04/05/sport/opta-supercomputer-premier-league-arsenal-liverpool-manchester-city-spt-intl/index]A supercomputer is tracking one of most exciting soccer title races for years. It keeps coming up with different predictions


The advancements in AI and supercomputing are indeed transforming many sectors, including gambling and sports betting. These technologies can analyze vast amounts of data much faster and more accurately than humans, which in theory should make their predictions quite reliable. However, the unpredictable nature of sports, influenced by countless variables including player form, injuries, weather, and even sheer luck, means there's always an element of uncertainty that no computer can fully eliminate.

While the predictions made by a supercomputer like Opta are based on rigorous analysis and can offer valuable insights, they shouldn't be seen as guarantees.
They do, however, add an exciting layer of data driven speculation that can make betting more informed and potentially more profitable.
But as with any form of gambling, it's important to approach these predictions with caution and use them as one of many tools in making decisions, rather than the sole basis. In the end, the unpredictability of sports is what makes them so thrilling!

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April 08, 2024, 11:24:57 PM
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Predictions are also just guesses and there is no change if it comes from a supercomputer or AI or quantum computer or any advanced technology.

Because just as we, we don't know what the future holds. And with these type of computers, they're also giving a guess just how we're guessing on how a match can end.

That's why if you're lazy to make predictions then you can consider them if you find one but for me, there's really no difference at all if it's about predictions made by human or them.



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April 08, 2024, 11:45:19 PM
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We are in an era where artificial intelligence and supercomputers can perform many tasks accurately. We have reports of some AI tools passing law school examinations and some of them have performed some complex surgeries in the medical field. With these technological tools, the word impossible is gradually becoming obsolete.

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%,  Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.

While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?


Further reading
Opta supercomputer predicts Man City and Arsenal's chances of winning the Champions League as Real Madrid leapfrog European giants in latest analysis

A supercomputer is tracking one of most exciting soccer title races for years. It keeps coming up with different predictions


Yes they do accurate  on some fields since information's available online can easily detected by those AI and they can easily show up the result of each task that we want them to do so its not surprising if they can able to pass certain exams since right now.

But for sports which result is not determine by anyone and result is random. Maybe the suggestion sent by AI is not accurate although maybe they are basing on teams statistics and show us which of those team have great chance to win but its good for us to think or see the real situation if there's something basis given by AI since we are still unsure about the suggestion given by this technology since the game still about to start and played by real people.

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April 08, 2024, 11:51:55 PM
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Call it a supercomputer, or call it artificial intelligence, or call it a ghost, no one is guaranteed to be right when it comes to gambling predictions. Super computer or artificial intelligence is complete software past a programming where personal programming is installed through which you can take the help of predictions but it is nothing but foolishness to think that these predictions will be 100% true.
Let's say a sportsbetting match between Manchester City and Nottingham Forest and the super computer asks you to bet on Nottingham Forest. If you consider the order of strength between the two teams then 100% prediction will be in favor of Manchester City. In this case, no matter what you call computer or artificial intelligence, there is no argument for the prediction to be true in this case. I am currently unable to support the prediction of supercomputers or artificial intelligence in any way.

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April 08, 2024, 11:58:34 PM
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Do you think these predictions are reliable?
They are not reliable. From my experience in sports betting, you can easily know that there is nothing reliable to give you what could most likely be the outcome of matches that have not yet been played. I am good in analyzing the market and compare my work with prediction sites which will be almost the same to what my analysis says. AI can not do it more than that and it will fail like the prediction sites because prediction sites are not 70% accurate.

I do most of my gambling on sport betting. And with my experience, I will say it's better you make predictions yourself than using AI. Supercomputers can just be a supportive guide. Although no one can predict 100% outcome of a match but in most cases supercomputers are less accurate. There are some important things that they don't sometimes consider in their predictions. Like injured players, where the match is to be played( I e either home or away), etc. And this often affect the outcome of matches.

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I might consider a supercomputer's predictions, but there's something about the unpredictability of games that makes them exciting. Besides, adding a bit of human intuition to the mix has never hurt. Let’s just say, I’d take the advice but sprinkle a little of my own magic on top!
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Well if these predictions at some point were to have 100% accuracy, I'd pretty much completely stop gambling in sports. Sadly I still think it's pretty impossible to get a 100% accuracy since to err is human, and these are humans playing on the field. If human strategies were limited to what was already made in the past, we'd be watching a pretty damn boring sports match but that's not how the world works.

Not to mention I still believe these predictions are simply numbers crunched up to the absolute limit based on the currently available metrics. Sure, they might have some sort of algorithm that ranks which data has more emphasis than the others but it still doesn't change the fact that they're simply numbers which equates to predictions just like how humans do it. Granted they can showcase more data and reference to more, but it doesn't necessarily mean that more data = more accuracy in some cases.

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As much as I believe that AI will be a really good technology that would help progress humanity as a species, I don't think we're at a level that AI will accurately predict what could happen and have a spot on analysis, I mean people have that goal in mind for a really long time with AI because if you can accurately or semi-accurately predict any outcome that you ask the AI to predict, you've basically got an ubiquitous technology in your hands that can help you in any aspects that you want some help of like gambling but I think that with it, we're not using AI prediction to its fullest potential, imagine being able to simulate a war scenario when you're at a war against a country, you can easily adjust your strategy depending on the results, you can probably even use AI for space travel, imagine launching a space exploration that's got an AI to do accurate reports on what's happening during their travel, the information we're going to get is going to phenomenal. 

But if we really just want to focus on gambling predictions, right now it's probably going to do well with blackjack and other games that have a fixed odds because you can do card counting using AI and they'd be able to give you results that can help with your decisions but if we're talking about sportsbetting, it's probably not yet that flawless to accurately predict who will score a goal at what minute of the game or how many points would Lebron be able to get in a particular game.

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We are in an era where artificial intelligence and supercomputers can perform many tasks accurately. We have reports of some AI tools passing law school examinations and some of them have performed some complex surgeries in the medical field. With these technological tools, the word impossible is gradually becoming obsolete.

In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%,  Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.

While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?


Further reading
Opta supercomputer predicts Man City and Arsenal's chances of winning the Champions League as Real Madrid leapfrog European giants in latest analysis

A supercomputer is tracking one of most exciting soccer title races for years. It keeps coming up with different predictions


Forecasts require a lot of data and need to consider many variables. Normally bringing this all together will generate a very high cost as you need to have it in a form that your "AI" understands. So I look at these "super computers" with great caution because the work is too big for little to be returned. Therefore, this type of business ends up not being as profitable.

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In the betting or gambling sector, there has been an increase in the use of technology to make the game more interesting and profitable. Recently there has been news of a SuperComputer that can carry out complex simulations and give game predictions. Based on the Opta supercomputer prediction, Liverpool is the favorite to win the EPL with 45%,  Manchester City with 33.6% while Arsenal has a 21.4% chance.

While in the Champions League, the SuperComputer had predicted that Atletico Madrid has the slimmest chance of winning with just 5% chance while Manchester City has the biggest chance with 41.2%.

Do you think these predictions are reliable?

I think it could be reliable in some extent. If it predict a match and the matches frequently plays accordingly, it could be Siad that it is reliable even if it's not %100 but it suggestion may play a unique role compeard to human. Since human are not %100 in accuracy I also believe that AI can as well not be %100 ok. But if the prediction seams to repeat itself frequently then there is a high chance to believe gambling prediction by supercomputer.
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