"Jontay Porter receives lifetime ban from NBA for violating gambling rules"

[robelneo]

You can hear what Michael Porter has to say about his brother here,

https://twitter.com/ClutchPoints/status/1781916633726058800

“some bad and sad stuff happening with a couple of my brothers. But I've got, you know 15, 16 more brothers in here. I knew I had to be here for them.”

It's like saying he is ok and life has to move on for his other siblings, the two brothers who are in trouble are old enough to decide their fate so Michael needs to be on his brothers who are not mature enough to decide for themselves

And in related news, Coban Porter sentenced to 6 years in prison for deadly DUI crash same week his brother Jontay banned from NBA.

Another bad luck for the Porter family as another one of them will have to go jail.

It will hurt their family's reputation but it's more painful for the victim's family, Porter admitted in court that it wasn't the first time that he chose to drink and drive, his behavior is one of waiting for an accident to happen.

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[boyptc]

You can hear what Michael Porter has to say about his brother here,

https://twitter.com/ClutchPoints/status/1781916633726058800

“some bad and sad stuff happening with a couple of my brothers. But I've got, you know 15, 16 more brothers in here. I knew I had to be here for them.”

It's like saying he is ok and life has to move on for his other siblings, the two brothers who are in trouble are old enough to decide their fate so Michael needs to be on his brothers who are not mature enough to decide for themselves

That's good to hear.

But with this issue, he can't do anything but just to move on. So, if his brothers have already somethings to deal with their own lives, it's out of the scope already.

And as for everyone, we all just need to move on. He's already received that lifetime ban, means no coming back but hopefully he'll bounce back with any career that he'll do in the future.

[rdbase]

Hear a term today for this very incident "No Jontay".

From an article I remembered reading about this when it broke earlier in the week that one bet that was placed on his health condition for a match against Sacramento would of won $1.1 million just for fudging his props:

[ChiBitCTy]

Thoughts in general?

"My thought". The NBA definitely chose the right player to make an example of in this matter. It brought the message/warning across, and it didn't give them a hard decision because he isn't a player whose name is spelled L-E-B-R-O-N. Because if it was actually a player such as Lebron or one of those "highly-endorsed" players, then we could truly expect the NBA to hide this matter from the public, OR  have the player make a "public apology" + a suspension, but not a life-time ban.

Maybe yes or no on this matter. It’s subjective because there’s rules about this specific matter which even popular names are not exempted to the punishment especially if there’s a player already received punishment on same violation.

I doubt popular player will do idiotic move like this because they already have enough salary and good career. Only minor role player can be tempted to this since they feel that their salary is not worthy while they don’t enjoy the game that much because they have few ball time.

But if Lebron caught doing this. The public will surely enraged if the punishment is not the same to Porter.

Please get the context.

I didn't say Lebron would do something like that. I'm merely saying that, in general, if someone becomes popular enough I believe that it would be very hard for the NBA to make the unpopular decision even if the person deserves it. Jontay Porter is the best situation for the NBA because they can make an example of him, and it would absolutely be NOT a loss to ban him from playing in the NBA for life.

Oh I completely agree so I guess I got confused by what you were saying.  There’s no chance that Adam Silver would ever ban Lebron unless he was publicly caught doing something pretty bad. There’s a few players like that, which are damn near untouchable (if they didn’t get publicly caught), of course.  I love Lerbon, and this is partly why, he’s never put himself in that kind of spot.

Such information being leaked can lead to a great loss for a company, which is against betting ethics, so he deserves what he got. If it were even possible, whatever was won by those who placed bets on that particular game should have been placed on him to receive a refund.

Though what he did was wrong by betting on same NBA games, and most especially his team, which is against the NBA rules, but I'm sure by now he must have learnt his lessons and willing to make amends, as a temporal ban would have been okay than a lifetime NBA permanent ban and a six years imprisonment for violating the NBA rules, which kind of seems harsh. But however, this should act as an example to many NBA players not to mess with the rules.

However, in regards to your suggestion above, I think it will be unfair to place whatever amount that was won by the leaked information on him for refund, because from information I was able to get from online, I was made to understand that the the bet was placed by the leaked information (i.e $80k to win $1.1 million) was frozen, which means the leaked information was useless simply because they are yet to have access to the fund.

Who said anything about a 6 year jail sentence? He likely won’t serve any time at all. Being expelled from the NBA is 100% justified. For those that don’t think so, I’m not sure they understand that the what he did was far beyond just betting on games.

[redsun114]

"My thought". The NBA definitely chose the right player to make an example of in this matter. It brought the message/warning across, and it didn't give them a hard decision because he isn't a player whose name is spelled L-E-B-R-O-N. Because if it was actually a player such as Lebron or one of those "highly-endorsed" players, then we could truly expect the NBA to hide this matter from the public, OR  have the player make a "public apology" + a suspension, but not a life-time ban.

I think all NBA players are still popular because all are good players but there are only some who excels a little than the rest and they do because they prove they can. They are most importantly honest about their plays but I think NBA won't give an exception even to them once proven guilty of getting involved in such act.

They need to be fair and transparent or else their reputation is the ones who will get affected and many people won't support them anymore. Doing such disciplinary measures is great, so that there will be no or there are only less players who will attempt of committing such act. I'm sure most players will choose both fame and money over money only and get a bad name.

[Mahanton]

"My thought". The NBA definitely chose the right player to make an example of in this matter. It brought the message/warning across, and it didn't give them a hard decision because he isn't a player whose name is spelled L-E-B-R-O-N. Because if it was actually a player such as Lebron or one of those "highly-endorsed" players, then we could truly expect the NBA to hide this matter from the public, OR  have the player make a "public apology" + a suspension, but not a life-time ban.

I think all NBA players are still popular because all are good players but there are only some who excels a little than the rest and they do because they prove they can. They are most importantly honest about their plays but I think NBA won't give an exception even to them once proven guilty of getting involved in such act.

They need to be fair and transparent or else their reputation is the ones who will get affected and many people won't support them anymore. Doing such disciplinary measures is great, so that there will be no or there are only less players who will attempt of committing such act. I'm sure most players will choose both fame and money over money only and get a bad name.

The organization should really be fair and square on whatever the decisions that they are making and they wont really be that obviously making out some decisions which it would be showing that they are really bias
because once the public will really be able to notice something in regarding about those decisions then it would really be that bringing out that huge question and would really be making issues.
There should really be no exemptions that if ever there's a player that would be able to violate those terms then it would really be that understandable that they would be face up those consequences.
In regarding about this Porter's violation then i do somewhat agree that it is really just that too much on having that lifetime ban. Isnt there some sort of 1st or 2nd warning in regarding with these
kind of violations? If this turns out to be final then there's nothing we can do but to accept it out.

[ChiBitCTy]

"My thought". The NBA definitely chose the right player to make an example of in this matter. It brought the message/warning across, and it didn't give them a hard decision because he isn't a player whose name is spelled L-E-B-R-O-N. Because if it was actually a player such as Lebron or one of those "highly-endorsed" players, then we could truly expect the NBA to hide this matter from the public, OR  have the player make a "public apology" + a suspension, but not a life-time ban.

I think all NBA players are still popular because all are good players but there are only some who excels a little than the rest and they do because they prove they can. They are most importantly honest about their plays but I think NBA won't give an exception even to them once proven guilty of getting involved in such act.

They need to be fair and transparent or else their reputation is the ones who will get affected and many people won't support them anymore. Doing such disciplinary measures is great, so that there will be no or there are only less players who will attempt of committing such act. I'm sure most players will choose both fame and money over money only and get a bad name.

Trust me if you're a big enough name you can get about anything swept under the rug. The most infamous murder trial in US history is one where former HOF legendary NFL RB killed his wife, her bf, drove his white ford bronco on a high speed chase (after the cops had been called to his home on domestic violence disputes 9 times previously), and he was found not guilty. He was, in fact, 1 zillion percent guilty and everyone knows it. Yes this guy wasn't a current player but it's just the most infamous example of athletes getting free passes. He just died, and good riddance to him. ( I doubt I have to say his name for most to know whom I speak of).

Kobe Bryant potentially raped a woman & he was back in the league in no time. It's pretty damming too - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant_sexual_assault_case

Adrian Peterson, one of the best RBs of all time, beat his child (and later caught doing it again), but was back in the league in no time- https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2014/09/12/the-details-of-adrian-petersons-arrest-are-disturbing/

Tyreek Hill, former Chiefs now Dolphins super star WR had audio recording admitting he beat his wife and child, Floydd Mayweather, same thing (not to mention Floyd had been a part of so many ponzi schemes it's not even funny, but gets no jail time and back to fighting like they never happened, over and over again (big crypto scam promoter too).  So in sports, where BILLIONS of dollars are on the line, money often trumps justice if you're good enough.  Just a few examples of MANY!

If you're not that great, you get this kind of punishment (see MLB player Addison Russel for another example).

[Baofeng]

"My thought". The NBA definitely chose the right player to make an example of in this matter. It brought the message/warning across, and it didn't give them a hard decision because he isn't a player whose name is spelled L-E-B-R-O-N. Because if it was actually a player such as Lebron or one of those "highly-endorsed" players, then we could truly expect the NBA to hide this matter from the public, OR  have the player make a "public apology" + a suspension, but not a life-time ban.

I think all NBA players are still popular because all are good players but there are only some who excels a little than the rest and they do because they prove they can. They are most importantly honest about their plays but I think NBA won't give an exception even to them once proven guilty of getting involved in such act.

They need to be fair and transparent or else their reputation is the ones who will get affected and many people won't support them anymore. Doing such disciplinary measures is great, so that there will be no or there are only less players who will attempt of committing such act. I'm sure most players will choose both fame and money over money only and get a bad name.

I think the NBA are fair, they've even suspended Ja Morant last year when he was caught caught flashing a gun on a social media. And this is not the first time that we have seen players being banned for life for whatever reasons like point shaving or drug substance abuse.

And this players know the risk, we even have one referee as well. Imagine a referee officiating the game and changing the course of the outcome because he had a huge bet on it. Like this one on Jontay, the NBA has suspected that he did tell someone about his condition before the game.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

I think the NBA are fair, they've even suspended Ja Morant last year when he was caught caught flashing a gun on a social media. And this is not the first time that we have seen players being banned for life for whatever reasons like point shaving or drug substance abuse.

And this players know the risk, we even have one referee as well. Imagine a referee officiating the game and changing the course of the outcome because he had a huge bet on it. Like this one on Jontay, the NBA has suspected that he did tell someone about his condition before the game.

There is no condition. He made an injury they didn't find or treated yet. Just feeling something suspicious in his eye and therefor can't continue playing.
He made that because he saw getting the under on all his props gets tricky. Sometimes they ball is just coming to you for a rebound, it's hard to not grab that ball without looking super suspicious.

Morant was a different story. Flashing a gun has no victims, it's just bad for the "clean" image of the NBA and it's role model status. So he just got a short band, followed by another one, so he can learn from it.
Fixing games is bad for the league as a whole since it tarnishes it's reputation.

[Kelvinid]

Morant was a different story. Flashing a gun has no victims, it's just bad for the "clean" image of the NBA and it's role model status. So he just got a short band, followed by another one, so he can learn from it.
Fixing games is bad for the league as a whole since it tarnishes it's reputation.

I agree with it, fixing games could really affect the NBA as a whole because it will loss its integrity if they'll not put an action to it. Just imagine how much the NBA loss when slowly people are leaving and will not be interested in watching the league because they think the league is a joke and games are rig.

No excitement, a loss of business opportunity, so they'll need to send a strong message that "game fixing" is not allowed and it's a mortal sin.

Ja Morant may not be a good role model but the NBA have made actions to it, and he came back strong and maybe a new man with a clear vision.

[South Park]

I mean this isn't as bad as people think it is, and a life time ban seems like a big deal. All he did was to let them know he will not be playing, that's it and him not playing can't be such a huge bet. I do not know where people would "jontay porter" focused bets, like how much he will score, over/under , or the minutes he is going to play etc etc. That seems like a very rare bet to find, but that's about it, only thing he did was to disclose he will not be playing. Let's not act as if he himself bet on the game and the winner and missed shots on purpose because of it or something like that.

In the end, he was given a punishment which I think is a lot, but at least he will have a chance to play in some other teams at other leagues.

I agree that the punishment was too big for what he did. Players are just people, they get drunk, they talk a lot, they aren't reminded every day that they are to keep their mouth shut.
Think of a situation that could happen to you. You're a pro player and you throw a party where a lot of people gather up. You're all having fun and they ask you if you can drink because you probably have training tomorrow because there's a match coming up and you say that you have a couple days off because your leg hurts and you had a doctor look at it today and that's it - they figure the rest out that since you're not going to be at training sessions they're not going to let you play in that match. Is that really something that can get you a lifetime ban? I guess it can, but should it? Definitely not. Players aren't some trained spies that can't leak any personal info to friends and family.

But that is not what happened, he purposely revealed information about his health, faked injuries and bet against his own team using the account of other gamblers, this clearly show intent on his part to manipulate the results, cheat the sportbooks, his team, teammates, the NBA and the fans as a whole, and the rules are very specific about the kind of punishment that he deserves and that is exactly what he got, and it is even possible he will get jailed and he will have to return all the money that he was paid for those bets and by the Raptors, as this is clearly a breach of contract on his part.

[Casdinyard]

Totally got what was coming for him. Couldn't picture why people who get paid literal millions, with shoe deals and a whole life of success ahead of them manage to fuck things up just cause they couldn't either keep their dicks inside their pants, or because they couldn't stop gambling, and not even just regular gambling, like literal sportsbetting which is strictly prohibited as an insider, given the fact that most of these games are fragile, and even a slight sway of "hey I made a bet that you guys will lose this game, I'll get you half the winnings if I win" could do something for the integrity of the game.

And apparently that's not all, he purposely orchestrated a series of events that would eventually lead to him "getting away with betting", good thing he was caught red-handed cause what else would he be able to do if he wasn't caught doing this, against his team of all things too lol.

Fixing is a bitch man, and more so these people who are literally set for life ruining their shit and the integrity of the game all because they don't know how to control their gambling urges, or plain greed when they practically have everything in their hands.

[Finestream]

Fixing is a bitch man, and more so these people who are literally set for life ruining their shit and the integrity of the game all because they don't know how to control their gambling urges, or plain greed when they practically have everything in their hands.

The right definition of it, it's greed. It's a disgrace to the NBA and also to his brother Michael Porter Jr. who is an NBA champion and is set to receive a huge salary when he renew for the Denver Nuggets. they are a successful family but due to greed, he made some stupid mistakes that he cannot hide anymore and that resulted to the biggest punishment of his life although he wasn't jailed. Just imagine, you work for your passion, achieve your ambition to be in the  NBA and in just one mistake, everything was taken from you, I wonder how he is feeling now, I hope he can still recover.

[Hypnosis00]

Fixing is a bitch man, and more so these people who are literally set for life ruining their shit and the integrity of the game all because they don't know how to control their gambling urges, or plain greed when they practically have everything in their hands.

The right definition of it, it's greed. It's a disgrace to the NBA and also to his brother Michael Porter Jr. who is an NBA champion and is set to receive a huge salary when he renew for the Denver Nuggets. they are a successful family but due to greed, he made some stupid mistakes that he cannot hide anymore and that resulted to the biggest punishment of his life although he wasn't jailed.

We all make mistakes because we are just human but this kind of mistake is too serious that it has destroyed his dream. Well, there's no one he could blame but himself since he was knowingly violating the rules and he knows the sanction for that. I don't have news about him now, but maybe he continue gambling and no more hindrance since he doesn't have a job anymore, he can just focus on sports betting.

Just imagine, you work for your passion, achieve your ambition to be in the  NBA and in just one mistake, everything was taken from you, I wonder how he is feeling now, I hope he can still recover.

For sure he can still recover, but life is not the same as before as he is not anymore making millions, unless he will become a successful gambler and proved to the world that he can make a living in gambling.

[Beparanf]

The right definition of it, it's greed. It's a disgrace to the NBA and also to his brother Michael Porter Jr. who is an NBA champion and is set to receive a huge salary when he renew for the Denver Nuggets. they are a successful family but due to greed, he made some stupid mistakes that he cannot hide anymore and that resulted to the biggest punishment of his life although he wasn't jailed. Just imagine, you work for your passion, achieve your ambition to be in the  NBA and in just one mistake, everything was taken from you, I wonder how he is feeling now, I hope he can still recover.

Probably that is the exact reason why he ruined his career by doing that shitty bet. He probably pressured by the career of MPJ that’s why he doesn’t care anymore on his career and just do this kind of bets in able to get extra salary that cause him everything.

I’m can’t comprehend how dumb this player by using his own identity to create casino account and bet to match that involves his own team. This is madness to think that he should just use proxy account for his bets to hide his identity.