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April 22, 2024, 10:31:28 AM
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I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.

It's the new wave of promoting gambling sites, whether online or offline. And I guess this is also been discussed a million times already, it's the morality of gambling. If you don't want to gamble even if you saw this streamers then don't do it simply as that.

I mean still boils down to you, whether you think that their sell their dignity and you have a good moral compass. And if you go down the rabbit hole, it's not just gambling though, everyone, just to attract someone to watch their videos, to sell and for the clout and obviously for the money.

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April 22, 2024, 10:39:24 AM
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Online gambling platforms don't really need to create a new account just for them to use in promoting the gambling services. It can be as simple as registering and then the gambling platform and putting some funds in it which cannot be withdrawn but can be played as long as they like. Something like a free bet with restrictions.
It's true that what is happening now is alarming because of the sudden increase of Streamers either in the gaming industry or in the entertainment industry that have switched to gambling. It's all about the money, says Jessie J.  Grin And money cannot be defeated. The age of thinking about dignity is long gone, only traditional people still believe in those things. Well, it will depend on the government because they have a say to this if they think the gambling advertisements is getting out of hand.

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April 22, 2024, 11:02:45 AM
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The aspect of morality and dignity is what laws and penalty can control and not that people will not freely try to make money from what they feel people will easily subscribe to, so the government should be the one going after such unregistered subscription and irregularities. So many gamblers can wish to do that and they are not the first on it, telegram hosts also run the same ads whether they qualify to do that or not and people traffic on it.

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April 22, 2024, 11:58:11 AM
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OP how is these influencers' fault? Even if there are casino advertisements in every corner of the cities in the world it is left for people to make a choice, you can still choose not to gamble, it is not a must even if the adverts are everywhere.

I don't take alcohol but almost everyday in my country there is always alcohol adverts, both the big ones and the small ones, till this date I never know how alcohol tastes like, I don't even want to know it.

Influencers are after their paycheck, they will do anything to make sure that they get paid but still, the last choice is on people to make, its either a yes or a no, so please don't take personal, because you are sounding like its personal, everyone has a choice to make.

Most of the time, it is always peoples fault that they get addicted to gambling, its the choices they made that cost them big time.

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April 22, 2024, 12:02:04 PM
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A big part of the problem isnt just streams looking for work. Concerns include what this means for the sites and the message it sends to kids who watch. This streamer used to be about games and skill. Nowadays, they're pushing gambling, which changes what they stand for, you know? Are those wins on these gambling sites really real, or are the streamers just being dishonest to get more people to watch? Trust must be built in what viewers see, and those responsible must be held responsible, including streamers and sites. This isnt just one person doing their own thing; it can affect how a whole generation thinks about financial matters and danger.

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The online streamers have already sold their dignity. I mean, the guy(or girl) decided to make money out of playing video games in his/her room and streaming, instead of getting a normal job like everybody else. What about all the girls, that are making easy money showing their ass on Onlyfans? Did they lost their dignity as well? The internet is what it is. The shameless people are going to use every opportunity they have to make a quick buck. And yes, in most cases this is totally cringe, but we live in a strange world.
The promotion of gambling isn't banned or illegal, so what's stopping the steamers to promote gambling?
Exactly. It’s like a highly paying job is being offered, so why waste those chances if there are great opportunities to be in huge profits. Gambling is legally accepted all over the world, except for those Islamic countries, so if online streaming gains high demand these days then we can’t control these gamblers to promote gambling platforms just like those celebrities who are doing streaming and show to the world how wealthy they are after that.

Let’s just accept the reality that money is the topmost important for the people. And where there is massive amount of money, people will eventually take advantage of those, even it means selling their dignity for some, which for me it never seemed like that.

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Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.

Same rant here regarding our local streamers. They don’t care if some of their followers already pointing out that they change their original streams that is the reason why they follow him.

Streamers is compensating this negative reviews by giving away money whenever they win huge amount which is effective to make the majority of their follower stay with him during live. The only problem was they are demonstrating greedy gambling that makes it very dangerous for their viewers when they copy the streamers game play.

Most of the streamers play aggressively that makes their stream a very dangerous to watch.

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Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it?

It's a new trend, and the "job" is pretty simple, you can either play gambling games or do whatever you do and advertise casinos on a side. I guess the main reason is because it pays a lot... and if you have a lot of followers, it's serious money. So it's not strange that more and more people are getting into streaming.

I don't have anything against this trend, but I think there should be a way to protect the youngest against this kind of advertising.
Somehow it seems to me that it reaches very young people in strange ways. Of course, we parents should also take care of it and keep our children safe, but it is impossible to watch over them 24/7.

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Are you suggesting that by starting to stream or create content about gambling and casinos, I would be consider as Iam selling my dignity? BTW recently, I have received an offer from a new casino to start streaming with them and have fun while gambling beside getting a side hustle. Although my gambling activities have increased lately, I have reduced the amount of money I gamble and solve this issue. So would it be wrong if I accepted this offer and made a living from it? My content would target individuals above the legal age for gambling, and I don't perceive any harm from it as long as Iam doing it responsibly.

Beside that, adults are responsible for their decisions. If watching gambling content triggers the temptation to gamble more, I recommend stopping watching that content. Personally, I find it enjoyable and entertaining.

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Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.
The first question you should ask yourself is why they stream the matches. The simple answer is not far from money, that is to make money. If that be the case, their can easily be paid by the gambling company for promotional purposes so long as the platform have huge followers. I do not see anything wrong with such promotions though because at the end, it is you that will decide what casino to use. You can even close your eyes during the adverts if it disturbs you a lot.

I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.
Are you saying that promoting gambling is bad? You are wearing the signature of a casino and also promoting same in the gambling board yet you condemn another person doing same? Is that not a case of double standard? I do not see anything wrong with gambling, that is way I am an active gambler myself. Gambling is not illegal in my country either so I have no problem with anyone promoting gambling through any means.

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Well. In my humble opinion, I don't think streamers promoting and doing advertisement to casinos are necessarily selling their dignity for money, they are people who do exactly the same with other sorts of services, like VPN providers, online game stores (like Eneba or Epic games), some people who are into the cryptocurrency world even ask their followers to use their personal link to join an exchange or buy a hardware wallet, as a gesture to support the channel and the content in it. Neither of those people are selling their dignity, nor are gambling streamers, they are trying to make money, like any streamer or influencer, they need sponsors.
Though, there are correct and incorrect ways to advertise products and services and gambling platforms are tricky to advertise on social media, that is true. It would be better if greed was not so big on streamers and they could diversity their sponsors, so in the end of the day, it is not all about gambling in front of people and likely in front of teens and children...
I used to watch a very good influencer when I was a teenager, to me surprise, he turned into streaming and filming himself gambling when he seemed to lose much of their sponsorships in social media.

I truly miss the old times on YouTube, when it was not only about money but also to have fun and laughter. 😔

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Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.

I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.

I don't see any problem with streamers promoting gambling on their platforms because it is a source of revenue and also offers cheap advertising for gambling companies. The only problem I have is the exposure of these advertisements to young people. These underaged individuals don't have the emotional strength to resist gambling and many of them might become gambling addicts if not guided and controlled.

Some countries such as India, Indonesia, and others are making sweeping laws to restrict these influencers from taking advantage of their followers to make financial gains. For me children should be protected from these gambling adverts and any platform that has content for children shouldn't promote gambling. I might also propose a bill that will restrict gambling platforms from promoting their services close to primary and secondary schools in my country.

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April 22, 2024, 06:53:24 PM
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Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.

I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.
Its not getting worst, it is getting out of hand or really that become too rampant because industry had become so big on which those companies or platforms would really be needing to become that being aggressive when it comes to marketing because if they would really be making themselves that not making any actions then they would really be getting left behind and this is something that would really be happening on a particular company
and since we are living in a world where digital era is here, then you could really expect that these kind of methods when it comes to exposure would really be mainly be used.

If you do find these things to be worst then it would really be that your own personal opinion on which you do really have the point, but eventually these things arent that an issue if you are really just that
not that caring about on the videos or streams that they are really that making into about gambling or any other things that you do see online, it would really be just that depending into someones
self control because not all would really be that good at that.

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April 22, 2024, 07:01:40 PM
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They sell their dignity because they are streaming games and promoting gambling sites in the process? What I see about you is that you just want to be judgmental and be one-sided about it. There are many influencers that are promoting gambling sites today. Even in the street next to my street is bank road that you can see betting site signboard. Blame the government and not people that see what can make them become richer.

Streamers have dignity? That's a new one. Most of them would sell you their mothers in an instant. It's just a matter of price.
Actually, there are many new trends among streamers. Females were always showing private parts for views, but OF brought it to new levels. Males take freak fights, sell themselves to sponsors that promote various shady stuff like gamers promote sites with cheats, and so on. We've always known that famous streamers like are given money to play in a casino and many celebrities were paid off by SBF to promote his scam... Don't exepect something where there was none for a long time.

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April 22, 2024, 07:10:35 PM
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Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.

I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.
They are doing nothing that could be considered to be illegal so there is not a thing that can be done about it, while at the same time their occupation is getting harder with more and more people trying to become an influencer, so they are under tremendous pressure to keep making money, as they never know when that income will dry up and they may need to find a regular job, so the best thing you and anyone can do that does not like this situation is to vote with your feet, unsubscribe and never watch their content again.

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April 22, 2024, 08:33:54 PM
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I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted
Did you say dignity? Funny enough you are promoting a gambling brand wearing their signature. Where's your own dignity mate Huh Your language sounds like someone with a vendetta as though you have had a bad experience with gamble streamers.

I don't think that by streaming gambling sites as a promoter makes the individual to lose his dignity, it's just like every other career for money making, because if that's the case then we all that are gambling have no dignity too. Both the promoters and the consumers are culprit.

What we should understand by now is that the gambling industry with the help of the internet has penetrated into all corners and with the level of penetration right now they don't even need the permission before interrupting your activity online with ads promotions in different ways. The responsibility is left on the older people to educate the very young about the bad aspect of gambling and why they have to avoid until to a mature stage in their life, and not by castigating the promoters  who are just after their money for service rendered.

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April 22, 2024, 08:45:48 PM
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I think some of the members here missed the part when OP said they used to stream gaming contents but switch to gambling since it's more profitable but the problem was that their audience were mostly minors. They don't mind shoving gambling contents to their gullible young audiences as long as they get the money and that's where the "dignity" comes into question.

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April 22, 2024, 08:47:31 PM
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That's okay, it is their choice and just like us we're promoters of casinos. But their difference is the viewers that they have an idea that can be seen by kids.

Unlike here, most of the folks here are old enough to handle themselves and that's why it's fine for me because we all have our choices. That's their livelihood and they're living on the sponsorships that are being paid by the advertiser.

They can justify that gambling is still gaming, isn't?  Cheesy



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April 22, 2024, 09:02:31 PM
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First time? There are quite a bit of streamers out there who turned to gambling after having lost all their main audience. Might just be due to them not growing really as a content creator, or just others having better content than them so the audience simply went to them instead. Well, that's the old streamers' part and just my take on why they went to gambling instead of continuing their old style.

As for new ones, I don't think there's any dignity to sell in the first place since they don't have a brand in the first place, they might just really like gambling so they started with that. In the first place I wouldn't really blame them for the audience watching them, each person has their own choice to watch others after all. And if it was the young viewers, it's not their job to filter it out so that they aren't watchable by said viewers, it's the platforms job.

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April 22, 2024, 09:06:26 PM
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Streamers do their streams as a job, do you think they do it for fun? and if a casino makes a nice offer to them, they will follow the money, that's how it works, money talks. But i agree with you in the age problem, as you mentioned, some followers are young guys, and seeing them starting playing on casinos at a young age is sad. And the main problem about that is they can't do kick, so, they have the faith to win something big, but if that happens they will not be able to withdraw their money, that's sad.

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