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April 22, 2024, 06:01:14 AM |
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Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.
I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.
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April 22, 2024, 06:08:15 AM |
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They sell their dignity because they are streaming games and promoting gambling sites in the process? What I see about you is that you just want to be judgmental and be one-sided about it. There are many influencers that are promoting gambling sites today. Even in the street next to my street is bank road that you can see betting site signboard. Blame the government and not people that see what can make them become richer.
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April 22, 2024, 06:16:58 AM |
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They sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers,
Bruh, do you realize you are also wearing a casino signature and avatar? When you say they are abandoning their dignity to get paid by the casinos, it makes me confused. To many people, gambling is part of life just like eating and drinking. I don’t see any problems with streamers that promote casinos. Are they doing anything illegal? No. Ethical and moral? These concepts don’t have the same meaning everywhere. In some countries drinking alcohol is completely illegal. In some others you can only drink after you turn 21.
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April 22, 2024, 06:31:28 AM |
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Well I am not that much surprised as nowadays people do not care much about moral values as long as they find a way to make money.It is a good way to promote their referral links and getting new prospects to sign up under their account and to receive affiliate money.Most well known streamers do that so why should normal gamblers not do it,it is a great way to get people to sign up under you and to make some passive income,it is even better when you can gamble with such income.
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April 22, 2024, 06:32:38 AM |
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Its not getting worst they are just doing their job But the real question is: why would anyone follow them? here it is a bit like with ponzi scam. There will always be someone who believes in miraculous offers reserved just for him ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) obviously anyone who exploits his online visibility and takes advantage of it, does not deserve my interest, he will remain "signed". I would think very carefully before following his actions online again or accepting any type of suggestion.
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April 22, 2024, 06:42:52 AM |
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The online streamers have already sold their dignity. I mean, the guy(or girl) decided to make money out of playing video games in his/her room and streaming, instead of getting a normal job like everybody else. What about all the girls, that are making easy money showing their ass on Onlyfans? Did they lost their dignity as well? The internet is what it is. The shameless people are going to use every opportunity they have to make a quick buck. And yes, in most cases this is totally cringe, but we live in a strange world. The promotion of gambling isn't banned or illegal, so what's stopping the steamers to promote gambling?
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April 22, 2024, 06:50:48 AM |
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Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.
I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.
To me this doesn't seem so new at all. I still remember the first hype of the online gambling industry a few years back. There were tons of streamers transitioning from traditional games to casino games and taken their audience with them. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion, because everybody can decide from themselves which streamers they want to watch and which games they want to follow. It seems a lot that streamers are just going with the games that offer them a big viewership and also good deals with the producers/owners of the games. When casinos are willing to run special promotions for streamers than it's fine for them to take advantage of it. The traditional gaming industry has done the same and we can see a lot of streamers showing gameplay of new games in the days before they are released. These are obviously marketing deals and the streamers are getting paid for it, I wouldn't call it selling their dignity, it's just a job. Also many games these days have lootboxes that involve gambling as well. For me there is no real difference between watching a streamer opening tons of lootboxes and trying to get the best possible skin, and another streamer playing casino games. If you don't like the content it's fine to watch another streamer.
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April 22, 2024, 07:07:39 AM |
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You judge them as selling their dignity just because they are promoting gambling site, how about you? Why do you promote gambling site in your signature space? What is the difference between them and you (and most of us here who participating in signature campaign of gambling site)? Just different way of advertising, right? And every advertisement has its own rules/terms. You are getting paid to wear signature and post, while they are getting paid to do livestream.
If people are attracted to gamble after watching their stream and because they watch huge wins, who is the one to blame? The viewers, not the streamers. If people do not want to be attracted, it is simple that they should not watch such streaming. Just like in general advertisement of anything in this world, advertisers will always try to promote the product to attract viewers. We as customers are those who should educate ourselves.
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April 22, 2024, 07:48:47 AM |
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I don't think they sell their dignity.
What if they're actually a gambler, but choose to not publicity if they're a gambler because there's no point for doing it if they didn't get paid,
Another reason, anyone will change. I could say stock was the best investment 3 years ago, but now I said it's Bitcoin, probably in the next decade I will say other asset, who knows.
As long as they didn't promote scam casinos, it's fine, unfortunately some streamers don't mind to promote 1xbet.
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April 22, 2024, 08:06:39 AM |
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I don't think they sell their dignity.
What if they're actually a gambler, but choose to not publicity if they're a gambler because there's no point for doing it if they didn't get paid,
Even if they are not gamblers but understand about gambling, they are not selling their dignity. They even understand about gambling. The OP is putting on Bitvest signature campaign signature which is also an ad, does that means he also has no dignity? Business is business. Streamers see it as a way of making money and they go for it. It is also legal.
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April 22, 2024, 08:27:52 AM |
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We can't blame them because they seem to follow a trend in providing their videos. And it is normal if they stream gambling to attract even more people to visit their channel. We can just skip it without having to watch what they say.
This is where we have to be wise in responding to it. We don't need to follow their channels if they have started to change from before. It doesn't matter to us because we can choose the streamer we want. And when they have really changed, we can leave them behind.
We don't need to be influenced by what they give. People also have to have a good attitude when watching those streamers. If the streamer can't provide educational content, people don't need to follow him. There are still many good streamers who can help provide good education to their viewers.
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April 22, 2024, 08:28:05 AM |
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Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.
I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.
Even worse here in the Philippines, people in here are fucking insane to say the least. Most micro-celebrities and streamers would be willing to promote obscure casinos, and it's not like they are offered small-fry money either, as sponsorships like these go for as low as 1000 bucks to some even going upwards of 20,000 dollars depending on how big you are as a content creator on facebook or twitter, which is about a million pesos in today's money, so you'd definitely understand why people will stoop so low that they'd be willing to risk ruining other people's lives by introducing them into something that they probably wouldn't be able to control for the sake of chasing that bag. I can't blame them either, it's not like it's our dignities that are being put in the line for the sake of money anyway, and some of them found the error in their ways and have gone for more family-friendly content, avoiding sponsorships from these casinos altogether, (still talking about the filipino micro-celebrities just to let you know), but then again by then, they have probably garnered a couple thousands of people who didn't know better than to avoid casinos cause they wouldn't be able to control their gambling urges.
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April 22, 2024, 08:33:33 AM |
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Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.
the money is there so I don't blame them if they transition from streaming games to streaming gambling(I'd probably do it too if I were in their situation), I also don't have an issue if they do that, they need money and need to earn. what I have an issue with is if they start advertising shady/scam casinos, lying or exaggerating things and saying things like it is easy to win on this "X" casino or you are guaranteed to gain profit on this "X" casino, they are basically misleading people when they do that.
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April 22, 2024, 08:50:50 AM |
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Here's what's happening even on the social platform of Meta, which is Facebook, where we know even young ones have access. It's disappointing that you've followed a streamer because you enjoy watching their gaming content and because it's also your hobby, but now they've shifted to promoting gambling platforms. It's also possible that they're using sponsored accounts, so what viewers see on their stream is large amounts being placed as bets for a big win. In that way, they could encourage viewers to gamble as well for the potential of a big win.
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April 22, 2024, 08:52:49 AM |
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Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.
I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.
Yeah, I noticed that too, like majority of the streamers nowadays is promoting gambling at the end of their live session but I understand if some of them are accepting the offer because streaming is their main source of income and having an opportunity that offers a huge compensation is such a huge blessing to them even if promoting gambling is indecent for some viewers. Maybe having a disclaimer is the best thing to do but we can't control people who watched their stream but it could lessen the probability of reaching the live to those minors if they set up an age restriction for their viewers. I have this speculations since then that some streamers are using a set up account so that once they do live streaming, it only shows pure winnings when they promoting the gambling but this is an speculations only, it's still not proven.
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Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.
I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.
I don't understand where they are selling their dignity when the channel belongs to them, it's something private, the channel talks about games and they have operational costs that they need to pay, because to create the video they need a good camera , they need a good computer and video editing software, they need to pay electricity, they waste their time and when they place advertisements or talk about gambling on their channels, they put an age restriction warning. they are very clear in telling people about the risks involved in gambling, they talk about the minimum age that one must be to gamble, so I don't see why they would have to be looked at but when they are not breaking the laws, when they they are not breaking the social media TOS, when they are not being dishonest with anyone I honestly don't understand why they criticize gambling games, and it's something that doesn't make sense. people are not being forced to play, at least I haven't heard any news yet saying that streamers are forcing people to create an account at casinos and play. So if no one is being forced. It doesn't make sense to keep complaining because it's up to each person to look at an advertisement about gambling and choose whether to play or not and if they choose to play, before creating an account that person must look at the casino's TOS and see if the age requirement is met. you are promoting a casino and there is nothing wrong with that
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Davidvictorson
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April 22, 2024, 09:10:53 AM |
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I am not against any stream transitioning from gaming to advertising gambling websites. It is their platform and they can do what the hell they like. Anyone who doesn't like that can stop watching them. It is a free world and we cannot tell them what they do or not do. Nevertheless even though it is their platform and that they can do what they want, there is a moral thing to do and that is to - Let their audience know that gambling can be addictive and that they can stop watching them if they think they are becoming addicted to gambling
- Offer some gambling resources to help gambling addicts
- Be opened about their bankroll - their wins and losses.
- Tell their audience that they do no support underaged gambling.
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April 22, 2024, 09:11:52 AM |
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We really can't blame them since gambling site do have a lot of budget for marketing and mostly they offer it to game streamers as they have a lot of viewers and those viewers are their target and of course the influence of the streamers have an effect to the gambling site, they saw it trusted as it was used by those streamers. Actually not only the game streamers but normal streamers do promote gambling sites as well, I mean, there's no connection and yet they still promote an online gambling site.
The thing is they have more audience and among those audience there's definitely someone who will try or use it. We really can't do anything about it we just really need to accept it as they are getting paid from it.
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Hewlet
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April 22, 2024, 09:23:54 AM |
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I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.
don't forget that whatever you're doing, if you don't find a way to factor business into it, you will in most time go out of the market. I don't think that there is anything wrong with streaming platforms using such opportunity to advertise a product that will earn them commission. If you're not interested in what they are streaming, you just walk away on a low. I still know that there are so many instances when I want to watch I live match and I don't have access to DSTV or can't go to the viewing centre, I just go to some random Facebook page that streams life matches and within few moments of watching, they bring in advert and after the advert they continue thier streams. I might not be interested in some of the advert and for others, I might be interested and might want to try it out latter and at the end of the day, if I'm lucky, i wouldn't blame them for advertising a gambling site while i was still watching my favourite game but we tend to complain when it doesn't go in line with what we want. Even your regular local channels still run promotion on Gambling sites on the TV and you don't make a big deal out of it. I know what's possibly the case is that some of these site might not regulate it in such a way that users can still enjoying the match they are streaming but you've got to understand that what gives those sites money isn't just the view and engagement they get by streaming th matches but the number of users they are able to bring into the gambling site they are promoting.
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alastantiger
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April 22, 2024, 10:10:38 AM |
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You guys need to go easy on the OP. The use of the word "sell their dignity" may not be what he or she meant to write. I am not trying to defend him or her but if English is not his or her first language, they may lack the proper word to use in that sentence. As we can read and understand, the phrase "sell their dignity" doesn't even make sense in that context. I may be wrong too, so please not come for me because English is not my first language as well. As for the OP, he or she needs to think it through thoroughly before creating a topic as the topic they have created is like shooting one's self in the foot for obvious reasons which has already been mentioned.
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