Streaming community are getting worst!!!

[Z390]

Are you a Filipino? this has been a norm and meme in our country that many of the content creators, coming from the gaming streams that they do everyday, they've changed their contents to gambling related contents. I think that the pay is higher with that and with their influence to their fans is very much high. But they don't know that a lot of lives have been destroyed with how they promote the casino as if they're always going to win those bets they do. There's a false marketing on their end and making it look like it's easy to win.

There are no streamers who don't know how many lives are destroyed because of gambling, they are doing it for the money and they are getting paid, drug dealers don't care how many people will be ruined because of its consumption, they care about the bags of money they will make.

Online casinos are getting more popular, and too many new casinos are getting released every month, it is only a matter of time, when something gets too popular it gets washed out, and there won't be much success and money from gambling in the future, from the streamer's side I meant, there will be too many competition.
I only pity we humans, who believe too much in gambling and luck-related things, if luck has to find me it will be through my ungiving up hassle, not me looking everywhere from luck, gambling isn't something we should be too into, whole idea about gambling is like a ponzi.

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[qwertyup23]

Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality.

Like what I explained in my previous replies, it is always a two-way street and perspective when you think about gambling promotion and advertisements from streamers.

Generally, streamers get paid via advertisements and/or promotions in which they are hired for. For example, there are certain companies who hire streamers to endorse or to stream for a minimum number of hours per week and they have to fulfil that requirement to receive payment. Additionally, streamers are also getting paid by businesses in order to advertise a certain product/service.

Sure, gambling promotions and advertisements have been rampant currently but you also have to look it on the perspective of the streamer in which they use this ads as their source of income for their needs.

I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.
Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.

I think this is where we must draw the line between stream of profit from gambling advertisements vs amount of content in which they advertise.

On my first reply, I explained the two-way street of understanding streams of income from these streamers. But on the other hand, they also have a duty to limit the amount of gambling promotion they advertise on their streams. If you are watching a streamer who mainly plays games and then he transitioned to a purely-gambling stream, I think that is a sign that you must stop watching or limit your stream visits to his profile.

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Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.

I read one story of streamers who struggling for years to make money from streaming but earn a huge income when he start to stream gambling, casinos offers decent money for streamers with a large fan base and this is a big temptation for streamers regardless of niches or interest they are promoting in their channels.

Gambling is a multi billion dollar industry and they need promoters to promote their platform  because marketing is the life of casinos, they need more people to play on their platforms so they are willing to pay streamers huge to promote their platform.

This trend will continue until there's a strict regulation on gambling streamers.

[rahmad2nd]

Well, you won't be able to change every change that occurs and the hype that we see today. Since online gambling has become more developed and popular, there are many casino platforms that use the services of streamers to promote their casinos so that they become more known or interested in the majority of people who are interested in playing them. To be honest, I'm not a loyal viewer of streamers. whether it's those that are more into gambling content, or those that are still determined to support broadcasts of PC games that have become their identity. In fact, the phenomenon of streamers has often been discussed by us on gambling discussion boards.

For me personally, this is not a matter of dignity or as you expressed in this thread, but more a matter of offers and work. For example, if you are a streamer, there are two choices, take it and work on the project. Or, you keep doing something you like. regarding whether they are "streamers" playing with casino accounts and the like, perhaps this is part of the scenario of an agreement made between two parties working together. I think, actually we as the audience have to be wise in responding to it. There's no need to be uncomfortable with this phenomenon, after all, in time it will be replaced by newer trends.

[ethereumhunter]

I haven't notice about that because I am not games streaming or else too often. If I watch the streamer, I will not takes too long because that can makes me forget doing another thing. But I see some streamer promoted gambling which we don't knows what's their reason doing that. Maybe they wants to feels a new experience in playing gambling and that's different from playing the games that they usually played. Maybe they wants to make money from a new thing which is gambling as they see that many people now like playing gambling. Whatever they reason promote gambling, that is not our business but we must still carefully if we watch the streamer. We have to filter what we watch so we don't tempts with their promotion and we don't have to follows them to playing gambling as we knows that playing gambling can makes us lose our money.

[Awaklara]

Feel free to share your insights.

however, the streamer does it for their profitable business interests. but what is wrong is that their followers are not only people who are old enough and mentally enough to gamble.
so the streamer must provide insight into the risks of the gambling he is promoting as well. not only shows how to win big from the site he plays on.
Even though the impact is small, I think it is important for streamers to provide a disclaimer at the beginning regarding gambling knowledge and also the risks for those who want to gamble. because at times like now, everything is really difficult to control.

[panjul07]

Can I call you as a hyprocrite? You call gambling streamers as people who sell their dignity to promote casinos while at the same time you promote a casino in this forum with your signature.
Come on dude, are you jealous with them because they can earn a lot of money by promoting casino through gambling streams compared to what you can earn to promote a casino with signature campaign?
I'm quite sure if you have the chance to be gambling streamer, you will also accept the offer from casinos to promote them with your live streams.

[Peanutswar]

In different social media platforms that support streaming, most of their video now have a paid advertisement at the end of the clip sometimes most of those are so long than the actual video of them, most of the casinos now i been notice are not too much reliable in my country because seems like a sceptical platform who are just replicated, the reason why people like doing streamings now because they want to promote their casino and how they can easily get a win every game. Well, we cannot blame them sometimes it's hard to earn money than get a promotions like that with a contract which is easy than taking a full shift or job every day.

[boltz]

I know what OP means and he is right. If we talk about twich,kick etc platform , then some streamers will drag you down in the mud just to prove themselves they are right ( even if they are not ) and what is worst about this is that their community will feed that ego over and over again until they will think they are some certain gods of internet. It's better to stick with entertainers who have a great community and won't feed that ego of that streamer because at the end of the day , we are going on this platforms to be entertained and a lot of them forgot why they are streaming.

[pawanjain]

Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.

I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.

Everyone wants a piece of the cake. People are earning huge amounts of money through streaming.
Not only they get money from the streaming platforms but also earn money from the sponsors.
So it's a double income and so many people are trying their luck with these streaming platforms.

[robelneo]

They are at their worst now 2 years ago it was not like this but they have found a way to insert their gambling streams because of the money involved we are talking of big money I read one local gambling streamer is struggling to monetize his channel and was thinking to leave his channel or sell it but after one streamer convinced him that there's huge money to be made in gambling streamers he sacrifice integrity over money, after a few months of streaming he bought a new car.

This is how big gambling streaming is the money is easy but you have to ignore your conscience and sacrifice your integrity even to the point of losing a few loyal fans.

[danherbias07]

I only pity we humans, who believe too much in gambling and luck-related things, if luck has to find me it will be through my ungiving up hassle, not me looking everywhere from luck, gambling isn't something we should be too into, whole idea about gambling is like a ponzi.

I agree and that is why every gambling site or platform always says after their ads: "Gamble responsibly." The "Responsibly" word has a deep meaning.
It could be "control yourself", "treat it like a game", or "just gamble what you think you can afford".
Gambling is such a big business because many people are looking for their luck and that is why many streamers have been advertising it, taking advantage of the hype because they know the money is in there.
In the past, the "online sabong" (cockfighting) boomed in our country and many people placed their bets on it for months until the government banned it.
Imagine that, just one game could pull that many gamblers, what more if there's a wide option of it as online casinos do.

[Yatsan]

I do feel the sae way towards them, however there's this side of the story that they are just doing such thing for money because they are paid to do so. I just hope that they could control or limit their audiences in particular with age. Problem only is with streamers who are creating false content or those who embarks that winning is easy and such wherein in reality it is not. But I agree that more streamers are now appearing promoting gambling contents. As a viewer, we have the rights to report it and get it removed actually, however things won't be done in an instant. You can just also hide it on your tab and with other audiences, it will depend on their initiative whether they would engage or not. I am just on a position that I gamble as well and it would be ironic to say that I am against the streamers directly.

[AbuBhakar]

Everyone wants a piece of the cake. People are earning huge amounts of money through streaming.
Not only they get money from the streaming platforms but also earn money from the sponsors.
So it's a double income and so many people are trying their luck with these streaming platforms.

On point, A streamer that I’m following disclosed the offer he gets from promoting the casino. They get fixed amount of money approximately 1000$ per stream with fixed amount of stream time. They can get more profit from views and affiliate commission that’s why they decided to change content to gambling since they already have followers that is willing to support him even on new content because they frequently having a giveaway to active followers.

Casino industry offers a lucrative amount of money for their deal. My country is dominated by this online casino mostly owned by Chinese companies that operates in our country.

[348Judah]

Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it?

I will not blame them, this have to deal with money, no one will receive an offer to promote a brand or product and be paid for it and will not accept, we are all hustling around in other to earn income opportunities, this same applies to some of these streamers you're seeing online, its not that they were not aware of what is happening that they are doing, but interest for money will not allow them make a reverse in what they have determined to offer and earn from it.

[Hispo]

Everyone wants a piece of the cake. People are earning huge amounts of money through streaming.
Not only they get money from the streaming platforms but also earn money from the sponsors.
So it's a double income and so many people are trying their luck with these streaming platforms.

On point, A streamer that I’m following disclosed the offer he gets from promoting the casino. They get fixed amount of money approximately 1000$ per stream with fixed amount of stream time. They can get more profit from views and affiliate commission that’s why they decided to change content to gambling since they already have followers that is willing to support him even on new content because they frequently having a giveaway to active followers.

Casino industry offers a lucrative amount of money for their deal. My country is dominated by this online casino mostly owned by Chinese companies that operates in our country.

 Chinese company, really? I think I have never personally interacted in casinos or sport books which are based on China, the west is pretty much dominated by casinos which have their headquarters in countries like the United States, Europe and in the Caribbean Islands.
Out of curiosity... What country are you from or what country do you gamble from? I assume you are from Africa or east Asia? Otherwise, I don't see how it could be possible for a Chinese company to comply with the tight KYC regulations which are usually imposed in the West.

Leaving that aside. One thousand dollars is quite a significant amount of money, no doubt about it, even for people living in developed countries, though, because how big the streaming landscape is, I would assume it is rather difficult for the average person to become a streamer and find sponsorships from casinos. It takes some kind of specific personality for someone to succeed on it.

[Ultegra134]

To be honest, I don't find that too big of a deal. On the one hand, I understand what the OP is mentioning: these streamers are sometimes affiliated with the casinos and often promote unhealthy gambling habits and unrealistic expectations. On the other hand, those who participate in gambling activities accept the risks involved; thus, the streamers aren't to blame if we're reckless with how we manage our finances; that's not their problem if we gamble away our salary. On top of that, no one is forcing us to watch their content; if we suspect negative or misleading behavior from them, we can simply skip their content.

[Fortify]

Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.

I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.

Quite often these streamers are in specific gambling categories which seems fine to me - they are usually restricted to over 18 (or 21) year old viewers who have to actively seek them out. I'm more concerned about all the mainstream game developers who are forever jamming microtransactions and loot boxes into games these days, those elements are introducing low key gambling into even the most innocent look games and breeding dangerous behavior. I think as long as streamers are up front about why and who they are promoting (if they are advertising) then it should be perfectly fine. It's when they are gambling on fake accounts and colluding with casinos to appear like users win more often, that is the truly dangerous part of this.

[uneng]

I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money.

The problem isn't to promote gambling industry, rather it's how they are promoting gambling industry. If there are warnings telling people about the risks of gambling and guiding them on how to be responsible gamblers, there isn't any issues. It's a legit, transparent and fair propaganda. The problem is when these streamers lie to their public and give the wrong impressions about gambling. A common example is when they say gambling is a source of extra income and that people should gamble to make their wages grow into larger sums of money.

That is, they sell gambling concept as a method for poor people getting out of poverty without working harder or educating themselves to have access to better paying jobs. And that is disgusting, because as we know, for most people the more they play, more money they are going to lose. Consequently someone in poverty will remain on poverty forever that way! Meanwhile, these streamers have their pockets full of money thanks to the delusions and misconceptions they promoted on their social medias' channels.

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I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.

The mistake many people make is believing every bit of words that comes from an online content creator, most especially streamers who does that for the pay-cheque and promotional basis, because the fact that a streamer who was once into gaming content, now shifts to gambling streaming, then that is obvious and a clear he may have been offered something too big he cant afford not to collect. Hence, just as he has adjusted, it's wise if all gamblers could  take caution in whenever content they stream, and not believe all those multiple winning we see while gambling , as not all are always real. And as such, it's people choose le responsibly.