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June 12, 2024, 05:13:32 PM
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As business such as this then of course they would really be that preferring those losers on which we know that this is where they would really be making huge money into this business.
If we do look around then there are lots of casino platforms that we are seeing online, not that much on physical but in overall revenue talking then it do really generates millions if not then it would be billions.

In regarding on the situation stated on OP on which someone did make out some transaction with some 3rd party and ended up on not getting paid just because the agent ran away with the funds?Its not really that shocking anymore that people would really be tempted on getting those winnings since it do involves huge money. This is why im not really that comfortable just in case on having that kind of
set up when claiming up the prize or winning amount. There's always really that tendency on having that kind of ran away with those funds which it would really be a disaster if it would happen.
You are right in that regard and these are things that have to do with casinos, but in their internal system as such, that is why when we go to any casino and this happens, well I think it is already a vulnerability that must be handled with caution so that it does not happen again, and it could be that every money that has to be given to the player has to be recorded in a document and signed by the person who receives the money, otherwise not much can be done, that is Something that we should always look at, and in casinos they have to look at things like that, it is much better to avoid problems like this in the Future.

In my opinion, it’s very disappointing if you were lucky and won a large sum in a casino, and actually didn’t receive it. 
And you were happy, and maybe even began to consider yourself rich and lucky.  And then a story begins that not only fraudulently deprives you of the money you won, but also leaves a terribly unpleasant aftertaste in your life.  By the way, a person remembers such cases all his life and the brain is designed in such a way that the thought of being offended by deception still pops up in the memory from time to time and at such moments it becomes very unpleasant.

A friend told him this and he told me that we should never get attached to something that is not yet in our hands, and that the money was never in the hands of the player, and that is considered something insecure, that if he had had his hands and then they would have taken because that was something else, and then I started to think about the logic that he expresses and partly because he is right, a person until he has the money in his hands because it is not there yet. yours, and yes, you are right, it is the same as putting our money in an exchange office, or in a casino, until it is in our hands or in a wallet because it is not our money.

Non good moments or conditions specially if its our first time or something does involved those huge amounts will really be having that not to be able to forget such condition on which you would really be having that kind of regret and keeps on flashing back on what are the things that you do able to encounter and experience. This is why it would really be not that good that you would be that advanced in speaking about potential winnings specially when dealing up with gambling. Also, its never been that advisable that trying to force yourself on being luck and just like on what i have said earlier that
as long that money isnt on your hands then it cant be avoided that you would really be having that kind of worrying condition due to possible instances that you have read up with other
experiences too.

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June 12, 2024, 05:51:11 PM
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Most of those challenges many of us are having were caused by us through the ways we have been gambling and how we show our careless attitude towards it, its not a matter of using a physical gambling platform or the online version that controls us from having the best of gambling experience, its mostly all about what we do and how we acted towards many of these things in gambling in which could have negative impact on us.

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June 13, 2024, 07:38:37 AM
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As business such as this then of course they would really be that preferring those losers on which we know that this is where they would really be making huge money into this business.
If we do look around then there are lots of casino platforms that we are seeing online, not that much on physical but in overall revenue talking then it do really generates millions if not then it would be billions.

In regarding on the situation stated on OP on which someone did make out some transaction with some 3rd party and ended up on not getting paid just because the agent ran away with the funds?Its not really that shocking anymore that people would really be tempted on getting those winnings since it do involves huge money. This is why im not really that comfortable just in case on having that kind of
set up when claiming up the prize or winning amount. There's always really that tendency on having that kind of ran away with those funds which it would really be a disaster if it would happen.
You are right in that regard and these are things that have to do with casinos, but in their internal system as such, that is why when we go to any casino and this happens, well I think it is already a vulnerability that must be handled with caution so that it does not happen again, and it could be that every money that has to be given to the player has to be recorded in a document and signed by the person who receives the money, otherwise not much can be done, that is Something that we should always look at, and in casinos they have to look at things like that, it is much better to avoid problems like this in the Future.

In my opinion, it’s very disappointing if you were lucky and won a large sum in a casino, and actually didn’t receive it. 
And you were happy, and maybe even began to consider yourself rich and lucky.  And then a story begins that not only fraudulently deprives you of the money you won, but also leaves a terribly unpleasant aftertaste in your life.  By the way, a person remembers such cases all his life and the brain is designed in such a way that the thought of being offended by deception still pops up in the memory from time to time and at such moments it becomes very unpleasant.

A friend told him this and he told me that we should never get attached to something that is not yet in our hands, and that the money was never in the hands of the player, and that is considered something insecure, that if he had had his hands and then they would have taken because that was something else, and then I started to think about the logic that he expresses and partly because he is right, a person until he has the money in his hands because it is not there yet. yours, and yes, you are right, it is the same as putting our money in an exchange office, or in a casino, until it is in our hands or in a wallet because it is not our money.

Non good moments or conditions specially if its our first time or something does involved those huge amounts will really be having that not to be able to forget such condition on which you would really be having that kind of regret and keeps on flashing back on what are the things that you do able to encounter and experience. This is why it would really be not that good that you would be that advanced in speaking about potential winnings specially when dealing up with gambling. Also, its never been that advisable that trying to force yourself on being luck and just like on what i have said earlier that
as long that money isnt on your hands then it cant be avoided that you would really be having that kind of worrying condition due to possible instances that you have read up with other
experiences too.
But in general, if you don’t have cash dollar bills in your wallet, but only cryptocurrency on your non-custodial wallet, or even money on a plastic card of some bank, then you really are not 100% the owner of this money.  You may lose access to your crypto wallet, your bank account may be blocked for some reason that you do not know in advance, because this can happen.  Finally, scammers can deduct money or cryptocurrency from your accounts.  Or your money will be blocked due to AML verification.... And so on.... All sorts of bad things can happen. 
And you can only consider yourself the real owner of money when you have cash paper dollar bills.  Well, or local cash, euros, yuan, yen and so on.

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June 13, 2024, 08:57:31 AM
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Most of those challenges many of us are having were caused by us through the ways we have been gambling and how we show our careless attitude towards it, its not a matter of using a physical gambling platform or the online version that controls us from having the best of gambling experience, its mostly all about what we do and how we acted towards many of these things in gambling in which could have negative impact on us.

But there is a differentiation mate about Online gambling and Physical casino and these are the facts .


Online Casino = available anytime as long as you have money/funds to gamble ,
this needs no effort to act because even in all places you can enjoy Online gambling.


Physical Casino= in this one you need more effort .

need to drive in the casino houses , need to have physical money and also need to have Gambling
Buddy because its boring when you are alone. for me those things are need to be considered .

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June 13, 2024, 09:44:22 AM
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So for me, online casino is the new revolution; it provides convenience, and you can play whenever and wherever you are, but of course, online casino still comes with cons, such as gambling addiction or what, so both have flaws, so it depends on the gambler where he wants to play gambling.


I kinda agree with  this. Online casinos is a new domain of my gambling activity. Heretofore I was a gambling shops fly and though those places have always mesmerized me I have never feel myself comfortable inside suffering the myriads of strange glances.  

Now, I am gambling on-line, in front of my laptop display  with epy webcam cover acquired for this case.
 
Every era definitely has changes in maintaining the privacy of players and being able to avoid things you don't want, such as being noticed by someone's strange glances at you, or paying attention to someone's personal gestures can also be a problem for some people who don't want that. , so it's not surprising that everyone is in favor of online gambling.
Not everyone mate but nowadays it is majority that chooses this type of gambling though I believe that online casino is getting boring , i missed the traditional gambling that i need to spend time and effort just to put my bets.
but the ambiance and the people around gives me more motivation to enjoy gaming.
though its hard to find time going to physical casinos yet that is something that I am missing now .

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June 13, 2024, 11:10:31 AM
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Most of those challenges many of us are having were caused by us through the ways we have been gambling and how we show our careless attitude towards it, its not a matter of using a physical gambling platform or the online version that controls us from having the best of gambling experience, its mostly all about what we do and how we acted towards many of these things in gambling in which could have negative impact on us.

a few years ago I traveled to another city and I was living at my relatives' house, one of my relatives who lived in the same house as me, also made sports bets, every weekend he made sports bets and when night came and were la liga games, he didn't watch the soccer at home, he would go out and watch the soccer at the restaurant with friends and other people, see that to watch the soccer at the restaurant, he needed to pay and he had to consume something inside of the restaurant. So I asked myself:

What was the difference between watching the soccer at home and watching the soccer at the restaurant?

So one day I went to observe what it was like to watch the games at the restaurant and I noticed that during the game people were commenting on what each player would do and who would win, I soon realized that the difference between watching the games at home and watching the games at the restaurant was big, watching it in the restaurant had more emotion. I also realized that watching the games at the stadium has more emotion.

By this I mean that playing in a physical casino is more exciting and has greater challenges, it is unlikely that a person who works will be in a physical casino every day. look:



All those people you see in this casino, they didn't leave their jobs to go and play and then work their way up, but in the case of online casinos where people play on their cell phones, it's normal for many people to leave their jobs to play and then go back to their jobs, I'm talking about the lunch time that people have at work, instead of having lunch, they are playing on the phone while they eat, there are cases of people who, while they are working, are also playing. These things don't happen in physical casinos

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June 13, 2024, 01:12:05 PM
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So for me, online casino is the new revolution; it provides convenience, and you can play whenever and wherever you are, but of course, online casino still comes with cons, such as gambling addiction or what, so both have flaws, so it depends on the gambler where he wants to play gambling.


I kinda agree with  this. Online casinos is a new domain of my gambling activity. Heretofore I was a gambling shops fly and though those places have always mesmerized me I have never feel myself comfortable inside suffering the myriads of strange glances.  

Now, I am gambling on-line, in front of my laptop display  with epy webcam cover acquired for this case.
 
Every era definitely has changes in maintaining the privacy of players and being able to avoid things you don't want, such as being noticed by someone's strange glances at you, or paying attention to someone's personal gestures can also be a problem for some people who don't want that. , so it's not surprising that everyone is in favor of online gambling.
Not everyone mate but nowadays it is majority that chooses this type of gambling though I believe that online casino is getting boring , i missed the traditional gambling that i need to spend time and effort just to put my bets.
but the ambiance and the people around gives me more motivation to enjoy gaming.
though its hard to find time going to physical casinos yet that is something that I am missing now .
Yes, everyone really misses the place where physical gambling is more real and can increase the number of gambling friends, even though we are in a phase where everything is presented completely digitally, developments in the times have made and forced them to switch to online gambling, including since Covid-19, everything has changed. online gambling and leaving traditional gambling behind, because what we miss is that we can get to know the many people out there who are missing at the moment.

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June 13, 2024, 01:17:45 PM
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Not everyone mate but nowadays it is majority that chooses this type of gambling though I believe that online casino is getting boring , i missed the traditional gambling that i need to spend time and effort just to put my bets.
but the ambiance and the people around gives me more motivation to enjoy gaming.
though its hard to find time going to physical casinos yet that is something that I am missing now .
Yes, everyone really misses the place where physical gambling is more real and can increase the number of gambling friends, even though we are in a phase where everything is presented completely digitally, developments in the times have made and forced them to switch to online gambling, including since Covid-19, everything has changed. online gambling and leaving traditional gambling behind, because what we miss is that we can get to know the many people out there who are missing at the moment.

There's really huge difference on playing on physical casino since we could able to see a lot of gambler doing their thing on those casino and we will feel challenge and also enjoy the vibes what the venue could bring. Compare to online casino which we are playing a lone but the positive side of it is we can gamble anytime and wherever we want. Unfortunately there are lots of people struggle to find some time to go on physical casino since their schedule is so tight and they can't go with these places that's why many choose to gamble on online casino since they figure out that the games they could see its still the same. The covid-19 make it more popular since majority of the gamblers go online and they discover a new way for them to get entertained and play the classic games they like on casino at home.

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June 13, 2024, 02:39:47 PM
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Most of those challenges many of us are having were caused by us through the ways we have been gambling and how we show our careless attitude towards it, its not a matter of using a physical gambling platform or the online version that controls us from having the best of gambling experience, its mostly all about what we do and how we acted towards many of these things in gambling in which could have negative impact on us.
You are making sense, but at the same time, there are natural risks associated with the kind of casino we opt for which are beyond our control. Without going into many details, the physical risks and lack of privacy are associated with physical casinos, and even if you try to cover it up in a way, so far you are not the only one involved in the gambling and the financial settlement, you are compromised, my friend. This is, however, some of many of the risks attached to physical casinos, but the truth is that they are not peculiar to anyone whether you are as careless as you claimed or not.

The same thing can be said of online casinos, it will always have its own risk. You can imagine winning a huge amount of money and they ask you to complete your KYC or provide them with additional documents for verification which they continue to reject in pretence. Or they just block your account online and deny you your winning and withdrawal, or your account/the account of the casino is hacked.

All of these are no fault of the gamblers, they are natural things that are happening to online casino victims, which are wickedly beyond their control.

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June 13, 2024, 04:24:40 PM
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Most of those challenges many of us are having were caused by us through the ways we have been gambling and how we show our careless attitude towards it, its not a matter of using a physical gambling platform or the online version that controls us from having the best of gambling experience, its mostly all about what we do and how we acted towards many of these things in gambling in which could have negative impact on us.

May be that is true but what happened with the person in OP was something that he could not have controlled at his end.
If the gambling agent cheated him then that is not his fault. Same thing with online casino sites, if you deposit your money on the site and if the site is a scam then is it your fault in it ?

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June 13, 2024, 04:30:37 PM
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I'm just really curious as to why someone would go through an agent when you can bet on your own. Is it because they would always have a cut or a percentage on it? I think it's just stupid to let somebody bet for you that you chose on your own.



Most of those challenges many of us are having were caused by us through the ways we have been gambling and how we show our careless attitude towards it, its not a matter of using a physical gambling platform or the online version that controls us from having the best of gambling experience, its mostly all about what we do and how we acted towards many of these things in gambling in which could have negative impact on us.

May be that is true but what happened with the person in OP was something that he could not have controlled at his end.
If the gambling agent cheated him then that is not his fault. Same thing with online casino sites, if you deposit your money on the site and if the site is a scam then is it your fault in it ?
I think you misunderstood the OP. The agent isn't willing to pay the actual winner, not until it is taken to court. It's not because the site is a scam but the agent who scammed the player.

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June 13, 2024, 05:16:23 PM
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That's the worst case which could happen in any casino whether physical or online. The greedy agents are just like those scammers who want to take money of the gamblers and if gamblers win they try their best to not pay them the winnings.

The agent was a greedy one that's why he didn't pay the player who won the bet. I believe that such greedy people should not get license at first and if they get license then their license should get terminated if they try to scam the players.
Casino platforms or casino houses are never ready to see their users win such an amount that if they pay the amount they will lose a large fund of their company. Because they set such algorithms where users can't win anything big. But if someone wins something like that then the casino site or casino house refuses to pay that money. For this reason, you should never use large amounts in gambling. Gambling should be done only for fun so that you don't get disappointed in any way.

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June 13, 2024, 05:29:57 PM
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Most of those challenges many of us are having were caused by us through the ways we have been gambling and how we show our careless attitude towards it, its not a matter of using a physical gambling platform or the online version that controls us from having the best of gambling experience, its mostly all about what we do and how we acted towards many of these things in gambling in which could have negative impact on us.

But there is a differentiation mate about Online gambling and Physical casino and these are the facts .


Online Casino = available anytime as long as you have money/funds to gamble ,
this needs no effort to act because even in all places you can enjoy Online gambling.


Physical Casino= in this one you need more effort .

need to drive in the casino houses , need to have physical money and also need to have Gambling
Buddy because its boring when you are alone. for me those things are need to be considered .

Am not disputing on the differences between the two or trying to convince on them, but what my point focuses on here is that we have either online gambling platform or the physical gambling platform as a result of what we have chosen to do as a gambler and how we have been gambling with our manners, this is more our of personal disciplined nature towards gambling than either the use of physical of online gambling platforms.

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Most of those challenges many of us are having were caused by us through the ways we have been gambling and how we show our careless attitude towards it, its not a matter of using a physical gambling platform or the online version that controls us from having the best of gambling experience, its mostly all about what we do and how we acted towards many of these things in gambling in which could have negative impact on us.
You are making sense, but at the same time, there are natural risks associated with the kind of casino we opt for which are beyond our control. Without going into many details, the physical risks and lack of privacy are associated with physical casinos, and even if you try to cover it up in a way, so far you are not the only one involved in the gambling and the financial settlement, you are compromised, my friend. This is, however, some of many of the risks attached to physical casinos, but the truth is that they are not peculiar to anyone whether you are as careless as you claimed or not.

The same thing can be said of online casinos, it will always have its own risk. You can imagine winning a huge amount of money and they ask you to complete your KYC or provide them with additional documents for verification which they continue to reject in pretence. Or they just block your account online and deny you your winning and withdrawal, or your account/the account of the casino is hacked.

All of these are no fault of the gamblers, they are natural things that are happening to online casino victims, which are wickedly beyond their control.
Well every player when he goes to a physical casino knows that there are certain advantages over online casinos, but there are also many good things in physical casinos , you spend some time having fun, you see other people, you can appreciate the way other people play , how they shout, how happy they are when they lose, how they take the winnings, the losses, all this is very necessary to always generate ways of seeing things well and better, I could say that when it comes to doing something beyond, it is difficult, what can be generated beyond others is to win a lot of money and that is difficult and doing that feat is difficult both in physical casinos and in online casinos.

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June 14, 2024, 02:36:22 PM
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I'm just really curious as to why someone would go through an agent when you can bet on your own. Is it because they would always have a cut or a percentage on it? I think it's just stupid to let somebody bet for you that you chose on your own.

It's because not every place as a proper casino. There are some stores which has betting/lottery options available.
So if you got to a store and pick a lottery ticket then you have to go through the agent/shopkeeper in some cases.
In other cases, you can buy a lottery ticket from the store but you can claim directly from the agency issuing the lottery tickets.
In this case that person went to the store and bet on 37 games.

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Most of those challenges many of us are having were caused by us through the ways we have been gambling and how we show our careless attitude towards it, its not a matter of using a physical gambling platform or the online version that controls us from having the best of gambling experience, its mostly all about what we do and how we acted towards many of these things in gambling in which could have negative impact on us.

May be that is true but what happened with the person in OP was something that he could not have controlled at his end.
If the gambling agent cheated him then that is not his fault. Same thing with online casino sites, if you deposit your money on the site and if the site is a scam then is it your fault in it ?
I think you misunderstood the OP. The agent isn't willing to pay the actual winner, not until it is taken to court. It's not because the site is a scam but the agent who scammed the player.

I am aware of what I said. I even clearly mentioned in that if the gambling agent cheated him then that is not his fault.
Talking about the site is scam was just an example so that @mlink can understand that the same thing would have happened if it was not a physical store/casino but an online gambling site.

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June 14, 2024, 04:07:53 PM
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Most of those challenges many of us are having were caused by us through the ways we have been gambling and how we show our careless attitude towards it, its not a matter of using a physical gambling platform or the online version that controls us from having the best of gambling experience, its mostly all about what we do and how we acted towards many of these things in gambling in which could have negative impact on us.

Go back and read the original post (OP) again from the beginning to the end, then I have a question for you. In this situation that is being discussed now, what is careless about the attitude of the gambler? If he actually used an online casino to bet and won that money, did you think he wouldn't have been able to withdraw it?

In this situation, you don't have to blame the victim because it's not his fault. The manager of that casino has more explanation to do. What if it was two different gamblers that bet on the same game and they won it?

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June 18, 2024, 07:21:41 AM
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Most of those challenges many of us are having were caused by us through the ways we have been gambling and how we show our careless attitude towards it, its not a matter of using a physical gambling platform or the online version that controls us from having the best of gambling experience, its mostly all about what we do and how we acted towards many of these things in gambling in which could have negative impact on us.

Go back and read the original post (OP) again from the beginning to the end, then I have a question for you. In this situation that is being discussed now, what is careless about the attitude of the gambler? If he actually used an online casino to bet and won that money, did you think he wouldn't have been able to withdraw it?

In this situation, you don't have to blame the victim because it's not his fault. The manager of that casino has more explanation to do. What if it was two different gamblers that bet on the same game and they won it?
In my opinion, what the OP wrote is of course quite offensive and naturally unfair.  But all gamblers should always keep in mind that there are always a lot of dishonest people and scammers around the entire gambling business all over the world.  And in order not to become a victim of such dishonest people, you just need to be very careful and serious about everything that happens both during the game and during periods when a person, a player, is just about to place a bet.  And of course, you should not get too euphoric if you win, but first really get this money into your wallet and only then consider that you are really a winner. 

In general, advice: gambling is not an activity where you can relax completely and completely forget about safety.

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June 18, 2024, 08:14:39 AM
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I see this as a warning on the dangers of greedy agents in physical gambling platforms.

Source: https://twitter.com/General_Oluchi/status/1782027404027797716

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June 18, 2024, 08:54:44 PM
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I see this as a warning on the dangers of greedy agents in physical gambling platforms.

Source: https://twitter.com/General_Oluchi/status/1782027404027797716

Don't go to shady places and gamble there. If all the casinos in your area are shady places - don't gamble at all then. Or, you can find a reputable online platform and gamble there. But remember you shouldn't be looking for those gambling platforms with the intention of making money from gambling there. Most likely you won't. If you want to make good money, find a good-paying job, and then you can be looking for a reliable gambling platforms to relax from your work there from time to time. Why look for a reliable one? Because there if you win big by chance, you'll get your money without problems.
It would really be just an another story if we do speak about making gambling as your main source of income or something that talking about making money with gambling on which this is something that cant really be just that possible or something that this is the main reason on why this industry is really that making that huge revenue just because with these kind of hopes and wishes.
Going back into the topic on which it would really be that common sense that you would really be sticking into those old and reputable ones rather than on making yourself getting involved into those
platforms on which arent known or something that been having that good reputation.

As for physical gambling platforms on where there would really be some intermediaries in between then this is the hassle and the risks when it comes to potential lose of funds
just because its not being that given into the winner despite of the outlet given up already the winning. Human greed is really that something that will really be
the main reason on why you would really be that tempted on getting those funds which isnt yours.

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~Going back into the topic on which it would really be that common sense that you would really be sticking into those old and reputable ones rather than on making yourself getting involved into those
platforms on which arent known or something that been having that good reputation.

Unfortunately, not all gamblers understand that. Lured by unimaginably high bonus on deposits, cashbacks and stuff like that, they register on unknown platforms, deposit their money there and start playing, not knowing that the only option they have is to lose. If they win due to some glitch in that matrix of deception, they will never be able to withdraw their money.

As for physical gambling platforms on where there would really be some intermediaries in between then this is the hassle and the risks when it comes to potential lose of funds just because its not being that given into the winner despite of the outlet given up already the winning. Human greed is really that something that will really be the main reason on why you would really be that tempted on getting those funds which isnt yours.

Not giving out the won money is a common practice in physical casinos located in uncontrolled areas. I wouldn't those places "casinos" even. They are just traps for fools.

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