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May 03, 2024, 10:18:40 PM
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I have been very patient up till now - just the last few days have been struggling with it but I will continue to hold.

I am up 85% currently so I'm happy so far but want want a lot more so just need to remember it will take time and expect that to come end of this year / early next year.

for me before you hold bitcoin you have to check if the market of Bitcoin is going up or is falling before you hold, sometimes people hold bitcoin base on the time they purchase bitcoin, my advice is that when you want to invest in bitcoin make sure that you invest when the price is low and you can decide to hold until you make a surplus profit for bitcoin you are holding, people who is new in Bitcoin don't like to hold for long time

No, you just buy and HODL regardless of the price, that's how long term investors are doing. They don't look at the price because their mindset is that they are going to accumulate more many years whether the price is very high or it is low.

That's why they are called diamond hand, because they are not affected by the price itself. All they do is go on years after years to buy. Even if you are just average joe like the rest of us, you can used this strategy for good and it has not flaws whatsoever. Even if you have small money to begin with, you can start with this strategy.

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May 03, 2024, 10:32:15 PM
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I have been very patient up till now - just the last few days have been struggling with it but I will continue to hold.

I am up 85% currently so I'm happy so far but want want a lot more so just need to remember it will take time and expect that to come end of this year / early next year.

for me before you hold bitcoin you have to check if the market of Bitcoin is going up or is falling before you hold, sometimes people hold bitcoin base on the time they purchase bitcoin, my advice is that when you want to invest in bitcoin make sure that you invest when the price is low and you can decide to hold until you make a surplus profit for bitcoin you are holding, people who is new in Bitcoin don't like to hold for long time

No, you just buy and HODL regardless of the price, that's how long term investors are doing. They don't look at the price because their mindset is that they are going to accumulate more many years whether the price is very high or it is low.

That's why they are called diamond hand, because they are not affected by the price itself. All they do is go on years after years to buy. Even if you are just average joe like the rest of us, you can used this strategy for good and it has not flaws whatsoever. Even if you have small money to begin with, you can start with this strategy.
holding of Bitcoin is good and they from your point of view we are saying the same thing but the thing is that what I do emphasize on his that before you hold a coin you should make a research if a bearish season will approach at that particular time but if bearish season will not hit up when you are holding it is good depending the time you want your investment to last so if you don't have a duration of the investment to last it is a place where you have problem but if you have a duration then you have no problem
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May 05, 2024, 08:42:25 PM
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holding of Bitcoin is good and they from your point of view we are saying the same thing but the thing is that what I do emphasize on his that before you hold a coin you should make a research if a bearish season will approach at that particular time but if bearish season will not hit up when you are holding it is good depending the time you want your investment to last so if you don't have a duration of the investment to last it is a place where you have problem but if you have a duration then you have no problem
We cannot determine when the bearish season will occur in crypto, in fact we almost experienced a bearish season last week but fortunately the market has recovered quickly to previous prices, it is likely that these conditions will support a higher rise in the following month and we may soon looking at the ATH this year, perhaps the $100k prediction discussed in the speculation thread will soon come true in 2024.

If they invest based on their respective fund allocation then they will invest long term, but in this market condition it is not recommended to start investing unless you are ready to face the risk of the impact of a bearish market, we will wait for bearish season prices to invest at cheaper prices and we will hold bitcoin assets for the next few years.

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May 05, 2024, 09:49:03 PM
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We cannot determine when the bearish season will occur in crypto, in fact we almost experienced a bearish season last week but fortunately the market has recovered quickly to previous prices, it is likely that these conditions will support a higher rise in the following month and we may soon looking at the ATH this year, perhaps the $100k prediction discussed in the speculation thread will soon come true in 2024.

If they invest based on their respective fund allocation then they will invest long term, but in this market condition it is not recommended to start investing unless you are ready to face the risk of the impact of a bearish market, we will wait for bearish season prices to invest at cheaper prices and we will hold bitcoin assets for the next few years.
You have to learn a lot about market trend analysis to know when the market is bearish or bullish. A correction of 5% - 10% in a day is not a bearish trend - but it is a normal correction due to high selling action. A market trend that decreases over time is called bearish - the market will not recover quickly in such conditions, meaning the trend will not change overnight from its big decline.

Since the new ATH was hit - bitcoin has lost a lot of its value in the market. The price of bitcoin has fallen by $10K to date - but in the last few days, the market has started to move up after hitting a low of $56K. I'm optimistic about the market picking up in May and beyond - of course only if there's no super negative news hitting the market.
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May 05, 2024, 11:04:14 PM
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The same as you. Keep the patience stronger. There will be light at the end of the road.
But if you badly need the money then take it especially, if it's an emergency and you have no other ways where you could get it from. Health is wealth.

You are right, the increase in value of Bitcoin after the halving is not existent unless a big hype comes out. Also, it's expensive in this era which could be the reason for a slow value increase. I'd be more patient if I were you.  Just don't look at the fluctuating market for now, I doubt it will fall at the number where you bought it because of the ETF which will try to keep it at the right place. We didn't have that before which made it scary, we have it now and that should be a big change in how we see the Bitcoin market.

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May 05, 2024, 11:49:29 PM
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If we are referring to bearish season then its not a few days.  Dont use less then weekly bars might give a better conclusion on that idea, if we do restrict our vision in that way then BTC is bullish and will likely continue to be so for some time.

Yes there can be selling now, next week even for months but that wont negate the long term or seasons as we might refer to a bullish or bearish long term trend.   4 year cycle is about the time BTC seems to take its stride, Im so surprised how long term BTC really is in its movements so all this week to week stuff is just traders fighting each other.  We arent bearish or near to it imo.

The reason for using higher time frames and really giving them the majority of weight in your overall outlook is the accuracy is far higher.  The volume for an entire weekly bar is much greater then any of these small time frames.   When I first started looking at graphs alot I got down to a minute time frame for the data, its very frequent and so how can it be wrong to have the latest price for judging direction and the outlook.    Problem is price can jump around and do anything in a day, we have to at least close out the daily bar to say maybe this is something. BTC is really jumpy and inaccurate at times, its a free market and not centered in any one place.

I can trade BTC right now at 50k and I used to trade prices like that but only in the smallest volume.  My own trades dont matter, the volume is tiny the price is real but the significance is not there.  Some of that applies even on an exchange the price isnt always that accurate, so its really hard to know for real a good trend is in place or if we are just moving in circles.  Everyone is trying to outdo the other guy, they even got computers with trading programs trying to outsmart us now and doing a good job of it.   I try to set boundaries and if we exceed and stay that way I think the level of positive or negative movement in the price has moved properly then.

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May 06, 2024, 06:26:31 AM
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You are right, the increase in value of Bitcoin after the halving is not existent unless a big hype comes out. Also, it's expensive in this era which could be the reason for a slow value increase.
the halving as far as I know never really the thing that motivated sudden price surge, at best it could causes market sentiment to be good but never the factor that trigger sudden price surge from my opinion.
if you see the previous halving, the price never move that much when the halving is happening or exactly at that day, but what comes after is what matter most, the price increase usually happen after few months, even many speculators and traders making the same prediction that it won't just instantly become massive rally.

therefore there's no need to get too focused on the price right now, because now is probably not the right time for the bullrun to happen, even there's slogan saying sell at may then get away, it means this month is just a bad month for bitcoin, but i'm sure that things will come together when the time is right.
probably around the end of Q3 if not the start of Q4 this year thing will start picking up and there will be big thing happening.

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May 06, 2024, 07:08:03 AM
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some of my altcoins have seen over 3000% gain since middle of last year but I didn't cash it all out - I am waiting for the real bull run to come when that 3000% may turn into 6000% or even more.
If you took profit when some of your assets gained over 3000% in gains then you did the right thing, but if you didn't do that, you made a mistake. I'm not saying that you should have sold everything you have, but you should at least take profit so that you could get your initial investment back along with some profit, and then you could hold the remaining funds and wait for a better selling opportunity because we know the market has the potential for that.

When Bitcoin touched $73k, you should have taken some profit at that point. It could have been very beneficial for you because even though we are all expecting a bull run in a few months, there is no guarantee for that because Bitcoin has already created a new all-time high before the halving and that might be it, who knows?

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May 06, 2024, 08:34:14 AM
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I have been investing in crypto since January 2022 and it is beginning to test my patience waiting for the bull run.

I was buying all along the bottom of the bear market so current prices do not interest me too much as I got in a lot lower so I am just waiting to take profits.

Looking at the 2020 halving, the market didn't really start moving until 4 months later - is this likely to be the case after this recent halving too?

I will continue to hold as I feel we are only months away from the real bull run but it is testing my patience lately waiting month after month for some real price action.

How is everyone else feeling?
you have just bought when the market is in total Dumping yet you are rushing the bull run?
you are in total profit now so if you cannot wait waiting then you can sell that funds having enough profit.
the bull will happen in its time , not unless you are buying billions worth of bitcoin then it may go into your way.

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May 06, 2024, 08:48:04 AM
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I was buying all along the bottom of the bear market so current prices do not interest me too much as I got in a lot lower so I am just waiting to take profits.
If you plan to take profit using the concept of buying at a low price then selling at a high price, you can make a big profit when Bitcoin reaches ATH before the Halving starts. I can't guess what you're planning, Who knows what price you want so you miss the ATH moment that investors are eagerly waiting for. You must determine the target and immediately take steps to exit when the price almost reaches the target. You should now be able to make purchases again, if you pay attention that price increases often begin after experiencing the euphoric pressure of the Halving, the market may be coming out of the disappointing period in the August to December range.

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May 06, 2024, 01:33:52 PM
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The same as you. Keep the patience stronger. There will be light at the end of the road.
But if you badly need the money then take it especially, if it's an emergency and you have no other ways where you could get it from. Health is wealth.

You are right, the increase in value of Bitcoin after the halving is not existent unless a big hype comes out. Also, it's expensive in this era which could be the reason for a slow value increase. I'd be more patient if I were you.  Just don't look at the fluctuating market for now, I doubt it will fall at the number where you bought it because of the ETF which will try to keep it at the right place. We didn't have that before which made it scary, we have it now and that should be a big change in how we see the Bitcoin market.
I guess we have no other option but to patiently wait until we will see bitcoin price reaching its new all time high, though it’s still left uncertain but one thing is sure, it will happen soon. So don’t be too much affected with the current price correction, for sure it won’t be happening longer than we thought. But instead, learn to be more open on what a volatile market is, prices may drop down but it may move upward as well due to price fluctuations.

However, if you are facing such emergency situation right now, don’t be afraid to sell a portion of bitcoin. Eventually, when the price gets lower and quite affordable, you can buy back again and continue to hold until it double or triple from the price you have first bought it.

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May 06, 2024, 01:40:45 PM
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I was buying all along the bottom of the bear market so current prices do not interest me too much as I got in a lot lower so I am just waiting to take profits.
If you plan to take profit using the concept of buying at a low price then selling at a high price, you can make a big profit when Bitcoin reaches ATH before the Halving starts.
When the market is in a dumping situation there will definitely be an opportunity for buying. Because if you can buy at a low price, you can sell it at a higher profit. If someone misses the time of purchase, they have to wait more time for it. Since no one knows when the market will turn bullish, an investor must buy and hold his coins for a long time. If an investor invests for quick profit then he will never be able to profit from the trading platform. After investing he must hold his assets up to an expected level. If we look at the current market conditions there was an AT H but the real bullish movement of the market has not yet taken place. Those who increase their portfolio to buy during this period too will surely be able to multiply their wealth in the coming bull run.

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some of my altcoins have seen over 3000% gain since middle of last year but I didn't cash it all out - I am waiting for the real bull run to come when that 3000% may turn into 6000% or even more.
If you took profit when some of your assets gained over 3000% in gains then you did the right thing, but if you didn't do that, you made a mistake. I'm not saying that you should have sold everything you have, but you should at least take profit so that you could get your initial investment back along with some profit, and then you could hold the remaining funds and wait for a better selling opportunity because we know the market has the potential for that.

When Bitcoin touched $73k, you should have taken some profit at that point. It could have been very beneficial for you because even though we are all expecting a bull run in a few months, there is no guarantee for that because Bitcoin has already created a new all-time high before the halving and that might be it, who knows?

It's true that taking profits is never wrong, but if the OP has enough confidence in his investment and things haven't reached his set goals, there's nothing wrong with him not being in a hurry to sell. As you also said, there are no guarantees and any situation is possible. So what happens if OP partially sells when bitcoin reaches 73k USD but then the price doesn't decrease but continues to increase? And he will miss his plan? Therefore, the time to take profits will depend on each person's investment strategy and plan. There are people who choose to play it safe and will take profits gradually, but there will be people who are willing to wait until they reach their goal.

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If you expect something good from the investment platform, you must hold for a long time, keep your target fixed, under any circumstances, your holding can never be stopped. Hold until you have a portfolio equal to your expected amount. As none of us can tell when the market will turn bullish, an investor must focus more on his holdings, not on value. Your goal should be to invest only using the DCA method, holding long and building large portfolios. Bitcoin price is still low, if you can invest now and increase your investment portfolio, then after the upcoming Bitcoin ATH you can get several times the return of your invested money.

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holding of Bitcoin is good and they from your point of view we are saying the same thing but the thing is that what I do emphasize on his that before you hold a coin you should make a research if a bearish season will approach at that particular time but if bearish season will not hit up when you are holding it is good depending the time you want your investment to last so if you don't have a duration of the investment to last it is a place where you have problem but if you have a duration then you have no problem
The aim of holding Bitcoin is to seek profits and avoid losses, so that when you are holding Bitcoin and market conditions have started to become bearish, of course the main thing you have to do is wait for market conditions to get better again. Because if someone holds Bitcoin and determines the holding time for a short time, of course this will not be very profitable for him even though it is not wrong to do so. But the only way not to experience losses when the market is bearish and someone is holding Bitcoin, of course that person must not let go of the Bitcoin he is holding so that he can still use his time again to make a profit.

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It's true that taking profits is never wrong, but if the OP has enough confidence in his investment and things haven't reached his set goals, there's nothing wrong with him not being in a hurry to sell. As you also said, there are no guarantees and any situation is possible. So what happens if OP partially sells when bitcoin reaches 73k USD but then the price doesn't decrease but continues to increase? And he will miss his plan? Therefore, the time to take profits will depend on each person's investment strategy and plan. There are people who choose to play it safe and will take profits gradually, but there will be people who are willing to wait until they reach their goal.
This is what makes investing so hard, very rarely things will go according to our plans and we will have to make adjustments along the way, and it is there where many investors fail, as they had an estimate for how long they wanted to hold, only to realize to their dismay they will have to hold for longer than expected, and this can put in jeopardy any strategy, as if you had plans for that money then you may be tempted to sell too soon, before the growth on the market reached its highest point and lose a great deal of profits in the process.

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We may be headed for another bull run right now, as we saw Bitcoin halve for the fourth time in April just a few days ago. And then the value of bitcoin increased a lot and at that time the value of bitcoin was $73k dollar maximum ATH. Anyway as we know one year after bitcoin halving the bull season starts in bitcoin market and each coin increases in value rapidly and generates new ATH. So if you are investing in 2022 then I think you should wait till 2025 because 2025 is going to be a huge bull season where again Bitcoin will form the highest ATH in its history. If you want to hold the investment for a long time, then I think the best venture you can make is that you can be sure of success. We've seen the Bitcoin bull season start in 2021 when the price of Bitcoin was pumping a lot, and the next bull season will start in 2025 when the Bitcoin market will surely hit its all-time high. So you invest just hold it carefully you must be patient, only then you will reap the results of patience.

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May 07, 2024, 05:10:57 AM
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Well I do think this year is it when we see the next big 'bull run'. We already did see the new Bitcoin all time high and now I think we will see bigger all time high in this year.

It is still so early for us to think about when this will happen. There is some investors that think Bitcoin will go back down to 50k but I do not think this is going to happen. We can start a new 'bull run' at any certain time.

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May 07, 2024, 10:29:46 AM
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Ticer - real bull run to me is when my altcoins are pumping massively every other day.

We experienced it a few months ago and it was nice but im waiting for that parabolic stage.

If u look at the Bitcoin chart from September 2020 to March 2021 - that is the run I am referring to when I say ‘real bull run’
everyone have it on theory of understanding increment of Bitcoin or bullrun season of bitcoin, when we said that bitcoin is getting a positive reaction in the market that is to say that the price of Bitcoin have shifted from where it is to another stage of price level so who made the site to say that immediately the price of Bitcoin increases that we are automatically in bully season but some people have their own understanding and the theory of when the price of Bitcoin is exactly in bullrun or not.. I want to give you a reference for the time the price of Bitcoin was at twenty-five thousand to thirty thousand [25k/30k] we said that the market was not promising until it skyrocket to forty thousand [40k]..so what I mean is that the price of bitcoin since it has shifted to enter forty thousand to fifty thousand, we are in bullrun..remember we have individual bullrun base on when you purchase your bitcoin, if you purchase at of the time the price of bitcoin were at twenty thousand and you are holding till now you will know that bitcoin is on the bullrun.


I will continue to hold as I feel we are only months away from the real bull run but it is testing my patience lately waiting month after month for some real price action.

How is everyone else feeling?
Please do it just like other investors do because this is the only thing we can do knowing that we never know when exactly the ATH come.
You mentioned last 2020, we can't say to have the same market experience this time but can't set aside to be possible. As long as we are holding, we have nothing to worry about missing the chance. What I feel is that the bull season extends until next year and just like the previous halvings, ATH comes months after halving which means that we also need to extend our patience in holding. We just think that holding is no regret but instead, getting more rewards.
Know that hodling takes a lot of patience, and the moment you decide to hold, your focus should be sticking to what you have started and shouldn’t be bothered anymore with price fluctuations that will push or pull the price down. Bull run will eventually come in time, but since no one knows when it’s going to happen, then there’s no other choice but to wait and hold patiently, that is if you want to stick to your goal without putting your investment in compromised.
a good bitcoin long-term investor doesn't bother of bitcoin decreases, because they already have a target, its their target they believe on, I know quite well that bitcoin a good investor that have invested before in bitcoin doesn't feel reluctant but also watching the move of bitcoin price base it has a target and it knows that price of bitcoin will definitely increase in the market if it continues to hold, one of the things that makes people to be at lost when they invest in Bitcoin is a panic..they panic base on they have not known the rudiments of bitcoin before they invest.

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May 07, 2024, 12:16:55 PM
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We may be headed for another bull run right now, as we saw Bitcoin halve for the fourth time in April just a few days ago. And then the value of bitcoin increased a lot and at that time the value of bitcoin was $73k dollar maximum ATH. Anyway as we know one year after bitcoin halving the bull season starts in bitcoin market and each coin increases in value rapidly and generates new ATH. So if you are investing in 2022 then I think you should wait till 2025 because 2025 is going to be a huge bull season where again Bitcoin will form the highest ATH in its history. If you want to hold the investment for a long time, then I think the best venture you can make is that you can be sure of success. We've seen the Bitcoin bull season start in 2021 when the price of Bitcoin was pumping a lot, and the next bull season will start in 2025 when the Bitcoin market will surely hit its all-time high. So you invest just hold it carefully you must be patient, only then you will reap the results of patience.
First, bitcoin hitting $73k is an impact of the approval of ETFs and has nothing to do with the halving. That means history has been broken and we have a new history. If based on history, it is true that we will have a big bull season after the halving is completed, the entire market will skyrocket, bitcoin making many ATHs while many altcoins bring x10, x50 and even x100 profits. But that does not guarantee that history will return, I still leave open the scenario that we will not have a bull market as expected. I hope what I'm thinking is wrong because it doesn't benefit us at all, but with what's going on in the market, I'm really scared.

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