Is this true or some superstitious believe about gambling?

[Z390]

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

I can't stop laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

It is not demonic, but it looks like demonic to many people because they are not winning, if this same man starts winning he won't say that it is demonic, although it is true that the bible forbids gambling but it is not because of the demonic part, the bible advise against gambling because of the negative impact it has on humans, gambling can kill the spirit of will and hope left in human.

To me, gambling is simple math and psychology, a casino is betting on luck, 😃 it is something that doesn't happen every time, right? It is obvious that any casino will always have the upper hand, in a man's life he can get lucky only very few times in months or even in a year, and to many men, gambling is something you need to do every day.

You will surely lose more money and that is why casinos pocket gets fatter, it is common sense, this is one of the reasons why I don't gamble every day, I only gamble twice in a week and I use small amounts of money you can't control your luck, it comes when you won't be expecting it, spending less time with gambling is a good gambling strategy.

[irhact]

Demons?
ok good, I stopped reading everything else seriously...
we can say everything about gambling and platforms but comments based on magic are quite bizarre.
avoid talking to strangers but in general show what you are viewing.
imagine it's a criminal who notices you have a lot of funds in an online account, or you catch someone who is ready to "punish physically anyone who plays gambling..."

Well, every individual have their opinions about certain things and if i were the OP I won't even give such person a chance to interact with me cause he's a stranger and maybe, just maybe I'm forced to convers with him, I'll only ask him one question which is, the prove he has to backup his claims and if i don't get a reasonable reply other than being too biblical then the best thing is to snub him and focus on what I was doing.

 A lot of individuals have made mistakes and instead of them to accept their mistakes and move on they'll blame it on the devil, well good for him he was able to overcome his gambling addiction, but discouraging people and saying the house uses demons to manipulate individuals who gamble is the height of it all, maybe a lot of his religious brethren could believe such but I'll never give listening ears to such thrash.

[TheUltraElite]

People have many superstitions about many things but gambling and relating it to the devil is common in many religions. It is because of people who observe gamblers they concluded that gambling being a sinful act leads to bad outcomes.

Of course over here he was just trying to warn you from gambling. But it is ultimately your choice to gamble or not.

It is always true that long term casino is the winner. Hence decision making to gamble should be done with a clear head.

[enwi]

It is normal for casinos to have a higher house edge compared to players, because they are running a business and it is normal for them to have a greater chance of winning compared to players. If he hopes that casinos do not have a house edge, then casinos are charitable institutions that give free money to people. Moreover, if it is football betting, interference from casinos is not significant, we could even say that it does not exist in the big leagues, so bettors should be able to bet more fairly.

The business they run requires very large capital, so developers have to create winning opportunities that may be very small to obtain. It is impossible for those who build casino businesses to aim to create an institution that distributes money for free as you imagine. Only a few large gambling places provide soccer betting, because in soccer betting the results will be transparent and the gambling place cannot manipulate wins or losses so that it will potentially be detrimental to the gambling place.

[Hatchy]

i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

Lol, I laughed so loud while reading your post, like really I guess gambling has really done and taken so much from the man that's why he so much dislikes gambling. Though we know that most things onlines have external Bodies behind them but it's not logical to call them satanic. Gambling is a choice, no one forces anyone to gamble neither does the casino do. What ever loss one had with gambling, it was a risk he made his mind to enter. What has the devil gotten to do with gambling.?

Though so many religions preaches against them, as when one becomes addicted other forces applies to it which I might call demonic. But we should try to not over think these things as they have nothing to with superstitious believes.

[rahmad2nd]

In essence, everyone has their own journey, experiences and what they believe. in this discussion, we are talking gambling and superstitious beliefs. for us, especially Southeast Asians. Things that are occult, superstitious, and the like, are not taboo in social life. although gradually, something inherited from our ancestors is gradually being eroded by the development of sophisticated technology.
So, what does this have to do with this post? yeah, we are discussing superstitions in gambling. I have personal experience, but I won't explain it clearly. In the past, before the internet was as sophisticated as it is today, people flocked to land-based casinos to gamble. I used to be part of a casino, and we had a special room for anything superstitious. believe it or not, I have experience with what we are discussing. I'm not talking about what it's for, and what the goal is, what's certain is that we involve something that smells like superstition.

Well, actually you and I can see it from various points of view. If you don't believe in anything superstitious, just ignore it. However, we also cannot close our eyes to the fact that there are still many people who believe in it. For me personally, there's no need to debate. Especially in this era of sophisticated technology, we don't need to visit a place called a casino to gamble. yeah, just take out your cellphone, you can still bet even on a bus, how sophisticated is this era? If we talk from the perspective of gambling psychology, everything can be explained with science and knowledge. but if we talk from another point of view, basically our ancestors as predecessors always involved superstition even in the world of gambling. So whoever doesn't believe it, don't bother arguing about it and just ignore it. for those who still involve believing in superstition, let them be with what they believe. After all, we all have different rights, beliefs and different points of view.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

Establishing a gambling platform is a business, so it is normal for these casinos to have an edge over the player.  @OP you could have asked that man which verse in the scripture directly states(word by word) that gambling is Satanic since he is talking about spiritual things and relates it to gambling.

Aside from that when he talked about demons manipulating people, you can ask for proof or screenshots of those demons helping the platform in manipulating people to be addicted to gambling.  CCTV are often used today so if that is true then there should be copy caught by the CCTV where demons are manipulating people into gambling addiction.   If he can't provide any proof then it is just his own imagination and shouldn't be taken seriously, IMO.

        -   I don't seem to have seen anything in the Bible that says it is bad to gamble, but there is another term in the Bible that seems to refer to gambling.
I just don't know what verse that is in the scripture. Gambling doesn't just become good because most gamblers who become addicted to gambling have affected their character.

And what's more, gambling is destructive because of the negligence of the gambler to become an addict, which is why the effect is the destruction of their family and relationships, and sometimes even leads to bad results such as crime scene events.

[Solosanz]

Demons in casino? should we need to discuss gambling is haram or a sin in the first place? I didn't understand why people can believe in this stupid thing, with the advance of technology that we seen today, I'm surprised people still have old school thinking.

Only a few large gambling places provide soccer betting, because in soccer betting the results will be transparent and the gambling place cannot manipulate wins or losses so that it will potentially be detrimental to the gambling place.

There's still manipulation in sports, it's called fixed match. But in international match or prestigious titles, it's high unlikely we would see fixed match because the title is more important than just the money.

[Frankolala]

What's your opinion about this please?

Hahhahaa....very funny words said by the old man. I believe that was what he believes which was able to help him out of his addiction, because assuming he does not believe in what he is saying, he might not be able to stop gambling. So with him believing on a gamble demon helping the casinos to win will scare him away from gambling.

He said the fact about the house hedge always win and that is because of the software algorithm which the casino is using. However, it is good that gamblers understand that no matter how hard they try to win, it is impossible because the house edge will always win, and with this understanding it can make gamblers gamble responsible. I have what I do always say to myself whenever I want to gamble to enable me gamble responsible, amd those words are always in my mind.

[angrybirdy]

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

we are not sure if what he is saying is true but we have our own beliefs and views when it comes to things, maybe he just wants to give a warning to those he sees gambling because he experienced negative gambling outcomes but it is up to you if you believe what he says, there are many other sayings when it comes to gambling but for me, we are the ones who owns our destiny, we are the ones who manage our actions and if we don't want to be like others who are addicted and sunk into problems because of gambling , we should also know what are the right things to do so as not to lead to such an event.
I've heard a lot like that not only when it comes to gambling, even with rising personalities, they always connect that their souls are pledged to the devils in exchange for popularity, maybe for old people like us it's hard to believe but what if the children can hear? maybe that's what sticks in their minds until they grow up.

[Uhwuchukwu53]

My opinion is that believing in demons is bullshit, whether it is applied to gambling or in other fields. Those who have superstitions have an archaic mentality, not a modern scientific-rational one. Forget demons and study the mathematics that governs gambling, you will be much better off.

That's correct,  human has  a way if rationing blame on what that doesn't favour them, it's not new apart from casino game other things also have such superstition suspect by different individual in as much it doesn't work in there favour. The truth is that what you don't know always appears big or even have superstitious character this is as a result of ignorance in human.

In our society today many  poor person who could not Cross the red line of poverty see some wealthy men as ritualist or as ill wealth because they are ignorant of how to make such money or wealth to cut this analysis short I think he speaks on ignorance needs improve in the knowledge behind gambling.

[Hispo]

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

You are asking something which cannot be easily replied without having in mind the religious standing of the person answering your question, though. You are literally asking whether demons exist or not. So I am not sure what kind of answering you are expecting beyond people saying this is non-sense and others claiming demons exist.
But keeping that to one side... I believe people who manage casinos and betting services do not need further help from unknown forces, because they already have mathematics in their side, though, and mathematics are in control over both believers and non-believers.

I share your theory on the past of that man, he probably had such nefarious experience with gambling that he started to go church and there he learnt on demons and the unholiness on betting, etc. He found comfort on that and now he has given up on betting and gambling completely. There is nothing wrong with that, since it is a personal choice. Just do which is more appropriate in your eyes, always keeping responsibility as your priority.

I suspect your doubts on demons and angels getting involved in gambling won't get solved in this thread, though, be warned.

[Accardo]

There are no such thing as demonic in gambling. Most people only rely on what they consume to their brain and act by it. All he said regarding gambling is familiar except for the demonic aspect of it. The house edge is managed by the casino, not some demons as he may have said. I'm not comfortable with the fact you didn't engage in a long term conversation with him to change his vague perspectives of gambling. The whole thing he said may be fueled by his gambling losses.

Due to this he's actually bittered whenever in touch with a gambler. I think this unfolds another reason why people should not gamble in the midst of people or maybe get a dark screen guard that'll privatize your screen from the eyes of spies peeping through your phone. Because those things he said is getting to you and thinking about that is not fine in anyway. The best idea would be removing those thoughts and fling them away from your memory. Focus and enjoy your game. Stay responsible mate.

[coin-investor]

.... tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them.

People who are purists and very religious will tell you that, but they are wrong in saying that demons are the ones manipulating the results, the results are based on its system, and it's a business model meant for people to enjoy the platform not to make money and we all know that it has nothing to do with demon controlling the system, it's the individual character that will make him addicted, they become are addicted to gamble because of their weak control and character, and there are many responsible gamblers.

..... i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

I think he loses a lot of money which is why he hates gambling and doesn't want people to experience what he experienced but he has a wrong belief that the reasons people are losing is because of demons, gambling is a game of luck, you could win, you could lose you just need to enjoy the game and don't become a hater every time you lose.

[swogerino]

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

Nice one.So the programmers and slot providers who make sure that the house is always in profit are the demons that influence the outcome of a slot machine.The reason why I also think it is extremely funny is that this man attributes the fact that he lost a lot which is completely normal for gamblers to such imaginary forces,human nature is really difficult to understand,they blame always others including imaginary things and never blame themselves for their mistakes.

[Gozie51]

immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it,

I think the reason for having such thought is the uncontrollable pulse that some gamblers have to chase their loses, making them to keep betting even when they are losing. This looks like one is manipulated if you know you are losing money yet you don't want to give up. This is the way it sounds that you begin to see some people thinking it is the devil while such person was suppose to stop but couldn't control himself. That aspect of not stopping is what makes some people think it is the devil whereas they are the ones who have allowed themselves to be used by their emotions. So that man is not the only one in that way of thinking.

i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

Most likely he is the type that gambling left bad taste in their mouth because he didn't gamble responsibly.

[KTChampions]

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

Judging by his nonsense, he exchanged one addiction (gambling) for another (religion). This is a fairly common case, in the sense that if a person does not have rational thinking, then he finds the appropriate filling for his head.
Maybe there is nothing wrong with that, as long as one day he doesn’t try to exorcise a demon from someone or go burn down a casino as a refuge for the devil (because that’s what the voices in his head whispered)  

[GxSTxV]

Well, the whole story behind is just some people refuse to take responsibility for their actions and instead they claim and give responsibility of their behavior to external forces, like demons or other supernatural influences. Just like with people who abuse substance or alcohol where they claim being hunted and pushed by demons to stay in that situation, gambling addiction itself stems from personal choices and lack of self control because it has something euphoric to certain people while playing.
Casinos themselves often promote responsible gambling with warning signs. The man on the bus likely had a bad or harsh experience in this field and is looking for excuses to avoid blaming himself instead. We all face setbacks in gambling, but it's about learning from them and improving. Blaming demons for losses is just a humorous way to shift responsibility.

[Zigabel]

I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

sometimes religious believes vets to influence people so much that they just associate everything in a way with some kind of spiritual things a d keep some possible logical approach asides which has even done them more harm than good, I'm not disputing the fact that there are some spiritual implications to some of these things or that spiritual forces don't work but then somethings are just clear that logical approach has kept or in different dimensions about a particular thing , there are some persons who careful gets to control their selves well enough when it has to do with gambling and are very particular about how week they get to profit from gambling and it's clear there's no manipulation except for those who geta to allow their selves to be addicted of which they can actually get to prevent.

Everyone has got their personal experience with the casinos and I don't think it's very okay to try to convincing others into your believe about something as both of you may not be Sharing the same fate with such thing so it's best you both just have to react based on u're personal experience a s not convincing people in to other believes as I personally don't buy into that.

[Beparanf]

What's your opinion about this please?

It’s the math that helps the casino win so if the math is considered as Satanic then he is right.

This kind of opinion is from those people that use religion as safe haven to stop their gambling addiction since church doctrine is always involved demons and satan to everything that is against their teachings even though there’s scientific evidence on how to explain this.

House always win because all the games is designed mathematically in favor for the house.