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May 15, 2024, 08:55:41 PM
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As long as the gambling casinos we are playing with is legit, I'm very sure that there are no manipulations that are taking place. I also believe that there are no such things as demons, I mean the literal one. You know those who are colour red with a scary face, with wings and horns in their head but those gambling casino manipulators who do this to take more advantage of their players, can be considered to as one of it.

I think that there is nothing wrong for being superstitious or whatever means you think that will help you to win or quit playing gambling but what is important is that we are not hurting our selves or the people around us.
What I've come to understand is that there are some religions that doesn't support some certain things and individuals who's religions fall under that category would always kick against things that's not supported by their religions, if you read the OP's post properly you'll understand that the OP is a religious person, maybe a Christian and that's why he mentioned that.

 But I'm not buying to his idea or thoughts cause I'm not very superstitious or allow my  belief to mislead me concerning certain things, the said person must have lost a fortune in gambling or was an addicted gambler before he repented therefore he feels gambling was the reason for his previous misfortune not knowing it was his reckless act towards it.
There are ones who would really be obeying on what their churches or religion that telling them against on certain things. Some will follow but there are ones who would really be definitely be doing even if its against
then there would really be those individuals who would really be that continuing despite of those prohibitions but well we do have our own choices when it comes to the things that we are dealing of with.
There are individuals who do really strictly obey and this is why on the moment that they are seeing someone whose been doing into those things that its prohibited to them then they would be telling that person
that they should be stopping it because its not good.

Different religions does have something which are really that different on which there are who do have that normal approach towards gambling and there are ones
who do totally ban or prohibits gambling. This is why words could be heard out will really be basing up on such condition.

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May 15, 2024, 09:43:32 PM
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Probably this is really the case. He's giving advice based on his experience as a former gambler. Thus, obviously as a gambler with such past, it's just normal to discourage others to not gamble. Because it can really lead to addiction if a person has no control (he's quite right about that).

The older generations see gambling then as an activity of a irresponsible person, an activity of a jobless person who lacks direction with their future but what they don't understand is that the ways in which gambling were played back then is different with the way gambling is played today. The evolution of internet has made everything smart and fast that the things that wast your time gambling are now of the past but because of the "parent" signature, not all of them will understand this.

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However, I don't agree that gambling is satanic and there's a demons behind casino. Keep in mind, casino is a business, and it's in the gambler's discretion on how they want gambling to affect them. There are gamblers who can play in moderation and doing fine. Because it depends on the gambler itself and not the casino. You became addicted? Well, it's because you have no discipline.

How can gambling be satanic when I have seen a prominent man of God gambling by my side. I have seen a man that was gambling by my side. It was in Saturday and that been Saturday which leagues do play and because he forgot to stake it before leaving the house, he did it while on journey sitting right next to me and heaven didn't fall, some of this statement are nothing but ignorance and lack of exposure.

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May 15, 2024, 11:08:27 PM
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What's your opinion about this please?

I don't know if you are religious, but many of these beliefs are the result of religion.
However, if you ask me: Is gambling a sin? Is this the devil's thing?
Well... the Bible doesn't talk about betting and gambling as we know it today, but it says that we should be prudent with our money and not be controlled by addiction, and that already says a lot about the behavior of most gamblers. that I know here.
She also says that money earned dishonestly is not pleasing to God.

So, the conclusion I have is that gambling is not really a problem, most of them can be played just with the intention of having fun, the problem is that when we play it with the intention of getting money from it: “The The love of money is the root of all evil and whoever runs after easy money ends up in many difficulties", 1 Timothy 6:9-10

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May 15, 2024, 11:17:27 PM
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
Based on what you have been told, do you want us to contradict what the man had told you? No! I would not contradict the man's believe and I hope you have your own believe  too. We need to understand what we go for and what we don't go for. Choose your own path and do not allow anyone to trey to convince you or make you believe what you do not believe. We all from different doctrine and if you think that what the man told you was actually correct, I don't think their is any need for you to come and tell us but rather tio follow the path.

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May 16, 2024, 01:02:20 AM
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

You know what maybe this guy is on to something haha. I mean gambling is a big business, but to say that Demons are running it is definitely a pretty crazy idea to just throw around like that. I am leaning more towards your suspicion that the guy has lost one too many bets and has now made gambling synonymous with the devil. The bible doesn't strictly say that gambling is a sin or anything like that, however, the bible does warn against the love of money and dishonest gain. If I were you I would have pressed this guy for so much more information I just find this statement fascinating, I wonder what evidence if any he had to support these bizarre claims.

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May 16, 2024, 08:43:13 AM
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
You know what maybe this guy is on to something haha. I mean gambling is a big business, but to say that Demons are running it is definitely a pretty crazy idea to just throw around like that. I am leaning more towards your suspicion that the guy has lost one too many bets and has now made gambling synonymous with the devil. The bible doesn't strictly say that gambling is a sin or anything like that, however, the bible does warn against the love of money and dishonest gain. If I were you I would have pressed this guy for so much more information I just find this statement fascinating, I wonder what evidence if any he had to support these bizarre claims.
I also agree with saying the guy has already lost a lot of money. He would say that gambling is a sinful practice that we should not engage in. But it is normal if there are people who say that gambling is something done by the Devil, and hopefully, he will really not return to gambling and always advise people to stay away from gambling. Hopefully, he also knows that he can only advise people and doesn't need to force them to follow what he has done. I would not press the person to provide more information because it is a matter of each person's privacy unless he tells us.

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May 16, 2024, 10:48:08 AM
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
Dont mind other peoples words and just simply play on what you are really that tending to deal with. As long you are playing for fun and not that impulsively playing gambling and making out some more deposit like a mad man then you are doing good but if not and you've been wary that you are spending that huge then better to have a break. Making up some self realizations are really that something a moment which is really hard to have as an individual. On the time that you would really be dealing up with gambling then you should really be just that careful on what you are dealing with specially on the imposed possible addiction
that it could really be having on where you should be watching out those probabilities. You cant really be able to blame someone to make up those words even though it is already that big too much when that kind of
advise but at least there's someone who had been showing up some concern in regarding gambling possible addiction. Dont let those words will be bothering you, just let it slip and play accordingly for the sake of fun
then it wont really be something an issue for you.
Agree, it is important whether we are from the perspective of a scientific generation or the perspective of abstractionism, I mean invisible and supernatural entities from religions, although it is said that there are quite a lot of superstitions, there is still a conviction that cannot be explained, so the player's individual should proactively decide whether to fail by science or by supernatural things. If one has defined the principles of science and modernity, the only advice is just not to exaggerate losses and suppress hidden desires

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May 19, 2024, 05:37:07 AM
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Most people that have loss to gambling back then can be unbelievable having such archaic mindset,have heard that a lot times usually when I was much younger we were told that there's a spirit that controls all of this and thus tend to favour the casinos with more earnings leaving the gambler addicted and a looser.
And sometimes when I was much younger I use to believe such and stay far away from it but as I grew up to know some certainty of life I had to believe yes they are really superstitious and some people can be so spiritual and making sure other members follow their words.

Losses in gambling often entrap individuals within traditional superstitions. When I was young, I heard tales about spirits dictating gamblers' losses to fuel their addiction while casinos prospered, which led me to avoid gambling based on such beliefs.

In my youth, I too succumbed to such superstitions and kept away from gambling. With age came the realization that life is not as simple as being governed by mystical forces always. We live in a society rich with superstition and spiritual beliefs; many are still held captive by these beliefs, even propagating them onto others who follow suit.

In the end, grasping reality and steering clear of high-stake gambles is deemed prudent. While superstitions and spiritual inclinations may find a place within one's belief system, it's crucial to consider gambling as an endeavour that demands astute prudence and responsibility, irrespective of any mystical connotations it holds for individuals.

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May 19, 2024, 06:06:49 AM
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This is very funny but there is no diabolism or superstitious belief in gambling, it is just a normal business that you as the owner can either gain or lose sometimes even though it looks like losers are higher than winners but their are some times that due to large winnings payments are not paid immediately because the casino owners may run out of cash so they can withheld payments for some interval of time when a lot of losses have been realized then they pay previous winnings. But too much addiction makes it looks like there is a force behind gambling but nothing of such, if you play responsibly and at leisure with little amount you will find gambling interesting.

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This is very funny but there is no diabolism or superstitious belief in gambling, it is just a normal business that you as the owner can either gain or lose sometimes even though it looks like losers are higher than winners but their are some times that due to large winnings payments are not paid immediately because the casino owners may run out of cash so they can withheld payments for some interval of time when a lot of losses have been realized then they pay previous winnings. But too much addiction makes it looks like there is a force behind gambling but nothing of such, if you play responsibly and at leisure with little amount you will find gambling interesting.
That's not funny because for some people, they still believes about superstitious in gambling. Some people uses something that can helps them wins when playing gambling but that will not guarantees to helps them to wins. Other people will say casino use something related to superstitious that can helps casino to beat people when those people playing gambling. If those people can considers that gambling is just a business which gives many gambling games to them, they will not thinks about superstitious or other things that related to that. They will not uses much money to playing gambling because they can loses that money and that's not because of superstitious. But we knows that casino will gets the biggest profits than gamblers and that's the fact for gamblers to realizes and accepts it.

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May 19, 2024, 11:51:15 AM
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Most people that have loss to gambling back then can be unbelievable having such archaic mindset,have heard that a lot times usually when I was much younger we were told that there's a spirit that controls all of this and thus tend to favour the casinos with more earnings leaving the gambler addicted and a looser.
And sometimes when I was much younger I use to believe such and stay far away from it but as I grew up to know some certainty of life I had to believe yes they are really superstitious and some people can be so spiritual and making sure other members follow their words.

Losses in gambling often entrap individuals within traditional superstitions. When I was young, I heard tales about spirits dictating gamblers' losses to fuel their addiction while casinos prospered, which led me to avoid gambling based on such beliefs.

In my youth, I too succumbed to such superstitions and kept away from gambling. With age came the realization that life is not as simple as being governed by mystical forces always. We live in a society rich with superstition and spiritual beliefs; many are still held captive by these beliefs, even propagating them onto others who follow suit.

In the end, grasping reality and steering clear of high-stake gambles is deemed prudent. While superstitions and spiritual inclinations may find a place within one's belief system, it's crucial to consider gambling as an endeavour that demands astute prudence and responsibility, irrespective of any mystical connotations it holds for individuals.
Though wired to see patterns, they may not be real. Gambler's fallacy: Angry spirits cause bad luck? Get out! We're just trying to make sense of the chaos. The math supports casinos, not ghosts. This game's dealer is probability, not your lucky rabbit's foot.

You want to win? Think rationally. Every dice roll and card dealt is independent of your wishes or mumbo jumbo. It's about freedom, not cynicism! The pieces of superstitions don't fit, but people keep putting them together. Especially after losing large, they cling at straws. Get out of that echo chamber! Think critically: if these spirits are so strong, why aren't they earning casino pay?

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May 19, 2024, 11:51:58 AM
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He doesn’t need to have lost money to tell you that. People have their beliefs and some he their beliefs because someone was able to convince them that that’s the truth. Saying that it satanic depends on what he means by “satanic”. The word can mean many things like saying that something is too addictive that it is bad. But then it can also mean the Satan that has to do with hell. If he’s talking about it being addictive, of course it is, but it has nothing to do with Satan.
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Though wired to see patterns, they may not be real. Gambler's fallacy: Angry spirits cause bad luck? Get out! We're just trying to make sense of the chaos. The math supports casinos, not ghosts. This game's dealer is probability, not your lucky rabbit's foot.

That's right. And the math is not so evil either. Casinos have just a slightly better chance of winning, that's all. You should keep that in mind and take the risk if you fancy it.

You want to win? Think rationally. Every dice roll and card dealt is independent of your wishes or mumbo jumbo. It's about freedom, not cynicism! The pieces of superstitions don't fit, but people keep putting them together. Especially after losing large, they cling at straws. Get out of that echo chamber! Think critically: if these spirits are so strong, why aren't they earning casino pay?

Although thinking rationally won't help you to win in purely luck-based games, it won't hurt overall for sure.

Think critically: if these spirits are so strong, why aren't they earning casino pay?

I personally don't believe in any spirits, but I think those who do are of the opinion that spirits do not need money. Smiley

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May 22, 2024, 10:37:19 AM
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He doesn’t need to have lost money to tell you that. People have their beliefs and some he their beliefs because someone was able to convince them that that’s the truth. Saying that it satanic depends on what he means by “satanic”. The word can mean many things like saying that something is too addictive that it is bad. But then it can also mean the Satan that has to do with hell. If he’s talking about it being addictive, of course it is, but it has nothing to do with Satan.
Well, you're right every individual have a choice of believing in whatever they want to and that's why I won't even give such person a listening ear, I'll even tell him politely to mind his business and allow me focus on my bookings cause such discussions would distract someone to make wrong choices by picking the wrong odds or so. As a gambler you need to be focused when booking game.

 Well if the term satanic he meant was being addictive then it's understanding and he's right to some point but then if am not an addictive person I won't take his words seriously I'll just see him as someone who thinks am an addicted gambler and is trying to help me from it but if I notice the satanic he meant was relating to the Satan in hell, I'll just laugh over it and continue to focus on what I'm doing.

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May 24, 2024, 10:29:05 AM
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First thing is that Why talking to a complete stranger? and the way that person approach you?
it looks like He is the one who is possessed and not the gambling because he is the one who is crossing
between your space and his lol.

If I were you even if he says true here yet you will be the one who must decide , I am not a fan of
addiction in gambling but I know that this is something that also brings joy to players so it is not demonic
but it become one once you choose the wrong path.

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First thing is that Why talking to a complete stranger? and the way that person approach you?
it looks like He is the one who is possessed and not the gambling because he is the one who is crossing
between your space and his lol.

If I were you even if he says true here yet you will be the one who must decide , I am not a fan of
addiction in gambling but I know that this is something that also brings joy to players so it is not demonic
but it become one once you choose the wrong path.

Some people is like that, actually, specially in a context where they are waiting for the bus to arrive, waiting on a line on the bank or any situations where boredom could strike to them. Those are social people who likes to talk about anything to complete strangers outside of their home.
It has probably happened to you, some guy approaches you and he slowly starts to open up to you and talk about his life. There is nothing wrong about it, in my opinion, I have even noticed that the elderly are more prone to do so than the young people.

Either way, one is not supposed to allow the believes of others to affect our own, if we believe that other person is giving legitimate advice is up to us to analyze it and see if makes sense to improve our situation, otherwise, just discard it and move on.

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First thing is that Why talking to a complete stranger? and the way that person approach you?
it looks like He is the one who is possessed and not the gambling because he is the one who is crossing
between your space and his lol.

If I were you even if he says true here yet you will be the one who must decide , I am not a fan of
addiction in gambling but I know that this is something that also brings joy to players so it is not demonic
but it become one once you choose the wrong path.

Some people is like that, actually, specially in a context where they are waiting for the bus to arrive, waiting on a line on the bank or any situations where boredom could strike to them. Those are social people who likes to talk about anything to complete strangers outside of their home.
It has probably happened to you, some guy approaches you and he slowly starts to open up to you and talk about his life. There is nothing wrong about it, in my opinion, I have even noticed that the elderly are more prone to do so than the young people.

Either way, one is not supposed to allow the believes of others to affect our own, if we believe that other person is giving legitimate advice is up to us to analyze it and see if makes sense to improve our situation, otherwise, just discard it and move on.
Yeah this happens to me but never that i engage talking because there is one important thing
my father thought me to never entertain strangers specially those who will just approach you in public
without important matters to tackle ?
I will keep silent or will move away to show them im not interested.

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First thing is that Why talking to a complete stranger? and the way that person approach you?
it looks like He is the one who is possessed and not the gambling because he is the one who is crossing
between your space and his lol.

If I were you even if he says true here yet you will be the one who must decide , I am not a fan of
addiction in gambling but I know that this is something that also brings joy to players so it is not demonic
but it become one once you choose the wrong path.

Some people is like that, actually, specially in a context where they are waiting for the bus to arrive, waiting on a line on the bank or any situations where boredom could strike to them. Those are social people who likes to talk about anything to complete strangers outside of their home.
It has probably happened to you, some guy approaches you and he slowly starts to open up to you and talk about his life. There is nothing wrong about it, in my opinion, I have even noticed that the elderly are more prone to do so than the young people.

Either way, one is not supposed to allow the believes of others to affect our own, if we believe that other person is giving legitimate advice is up to us to analyze it and see if makes sense to improve our situation, otherwise, just discard it and move on.
The skill of conversation is lost today. People are too addicted to their screens to enjoy human interaction. Okay, I understand. When waiting in line or for the bus, boredom can be painful. In fact, theres a wealth of wisdom and experience ready to be accessed.

You shouldnt believe all advice. A casual conversation with a stranger can reveal surprising things. Perhaps a seasoned gambler or wise elder shares their life lessons.

Focus on listening and being open-minded. You may learn something. You've connected with another person even if the chat doesnt reveal anything life-changing. We should value that in a disconnected world.

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May 27, 2024, 01:51:52 PM
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My opinion is that believing in demons is bullshit, whether it is applied to gambling or in other fields. Those who have superstitions have an archaic mentality, not a modern scientific-rational one. Forget demons and study the mathematics that governs gambling, you will be much better off.
I respect people who have superstitious beliefs because I know they also have their own reasons for that. However, when it comes to gambling, instead of blaming all those losses to the demons behind the casinos, why not blame yourself because you never act as a responsible gambler but instead, you turn into an addicted one. It’s not the casino’s choice to see you losing consistently, but it’s actually your own choice and action that made you suffer from that.

Furthermore, gambling is a business, so the edge is always on the house, not on the various players, otherwise we won’t see gambling casinos stay longer in the market because they resort into bankruptcy after a month or two of operation.

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May 27, 2024, 01:58:48 PM
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Some people is like that, actually, specially in a context where they are waiting for the bus to arrive, waiting on a line on the bank or any situations where boredom could strike to them. Those are social people who likes to talk about anything to complete strangers outside of their home.
It has probably happened to you, some guy approaches you and he slowly starts to open up to you and talk about his life. There is nothing wrong about it, in my opinion, I have even noticed that the elderly are more prone to do so than the young people.

Either way, one is not supposed to allow the believes of others to affect our own, if we believe that other person is giving legitimate advice is up to us to analyze it and see if makes sense to improve our situation, otherwise, just discard it and move on.
Yeah this happens to me but never that i engage talking because there is one important thing
my father thought me to never entertain strangers specially those who will just approach you in public
without important matters to tackle ?
I will keep silent or will move away to show them im not interested.

As @Hispo said above which is actually not a problem to talk to strangers in public places accidentally as long as we can really think using common sense and rational thinking, anyway I think there are positive points in the situation which can improve our social relations with other people we never knew before which maybe we can get a good experience, knowledge or insight by talking to them as long as we can really think rationally.

Everyone has their own life choices and habits and as you said that maybe since childhood you have been forbidden by your father to talk to people you don't know, there is nothing wrong with that and maybe I think your family prioritizes prevention to avoid some unwanted things such as especially so that you are not influenced by anything that others say that can change our beliefs, but if we have prepared various things in ourselves then I think there is nothing wrong with mingling with others, but it must also be accompanied by restrictions.

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