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June 13, 2024, 10:32:01 AM
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He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them. Well he said crystal clear haha and if you ask Is this true or some superstitious belief about gambling? I would say everything is back to you frennn and if you are believer then or most of people will straight away believe it. I mean in my religion gambling is prohibited and something prohibited sometimes has a connection with demon or something like that.
In my religion, gambling is also strictly prohibited, and Satan's job is to trick us into gambling so that we are addicted or even Satan will lead us to shirk by believing in natural codes such as buying the lottery from dreams, or vehicle number plates from accidents and so on. makes us fall into things that are beyond logic. Even though we know, gambling games have a system or programmer so they have nothing to do with demons or anything supernatural.

However, whether we realize it or not, in modern times like this there are still many people who gamble, believe in things that are supernatural or related to natural codes to win a game, even though gambling games require mathematics, analysis and strategy to be able to win. I don't believe in superstition in gambling, but we can't deny that there are still many who believe in it, especially in lottery games.
You know these superstitious beliefs is being passed on from generation to generation through words of mouth, and this is why I will not blame those gamblers who are still believes that such thing exists. I have a friend that woke up one morning and told me, he saw a number in his dream, and he went straight to the Lotto shop, but unfortunately he lost.

I don't believe such these are in scenarios where our luck is to decided our fate or is it that a computer can have a demon that will change your destiny. Sounds very funny, though. The algorithm software that casino uses is designed to favor the house that is just the secret.

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June 13, 2024, 10:40:24 AM
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I don't like going by all what we see others say to be true, we sometimes also have to use our own understanding and discernment in judging over some situations in other not for us to allow them take advantage over us, if no one has ever known about someone being a gambler, i believe such word will not be uttered out to that person that gambling is demonic, we say some things all because we are aware of the situations, what about the ones we know nothing about, aren't they demonic as well, we should just learn to despise some weird advise and focus on doing what is right, having fun through gambling is never worst to that extent of calling it being demonic.
I agree. There are things or beliefs that are just applied by one person to an event just so he could make his mistake look good from the point of view of others.

Let's say I lost $100 in gambling and I have not won any single round. I might say as a Catholic that it's because the devil is within the casino helping them out to make me lose when the reality is the house edge is what makes it all happen. It's just like what the man said on the OP. There might be a time he was a gambler too because I doubt he will go to that conclusion without even experiencing some losses in his past.

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June 13, 2024, 10:50:42 AM
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I don't like going by all what we see others say to be true, we sometimes also have to use our own understanding and discernment in judging over some situations in other not for us to allow them take advantage over us, if no one has ever known about someone being a gambler, i believe such word will not be uttered out to that person that gambling is demonic, we say some things all because we are aware of the situations, what about the ones we know nothing about, aren't they demonic as well, we should just learn to despise some weird advise and focus on doing what is right, having fun through gambling is never worst to that extent of calling it being demonic.
I agree. There are things or beliefs that are just applied by one person to an event just so he could make his mistake look good from the point of view of others.

Let's say I lost $100 in gambling and I have not won any single round. I might say as a Catholic that it's because the devil is within the casino helping them out to make me lose when the reality is the house edge is what makes it all happen. It's just like what the man said on the OP. There might be a time he was a gambler too because I doubt he will go to that conclusion without even experiencing some losses in his past.


Well said. I personally do not believe in superstitious stories, I believe in the principle that everyone has a free choice, Fate, decision to decide and not necessarily influenced by any demonic or satanic stuffs, this is ridiculous how Satan will control someone to gamble and cause the loss of that person, so others who won weren't manipulated or we only loss when satan is involved, we need wash our brains and understand what gambling really is before we involve satan.
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June 13, 2024, 10:53:20 AM
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Gambling is a normal play that just got monetized to become a business for the owners and a source of joy and some sort of passive streams of income for others. Those
set of people that are superstitious with gambling  are the same set of people that think that almost everything is demonic including being a fan of a sports team or evening using the Internet is also demonic.

For as long as I know, gambling isn't something that's all that complex to understand that will make me factor out any sort of demonic trends into it. Instead of assuming that  gambling is demonic, I would rather think that borrowing is actually demonic as it's always deficult to pay back from someone you've borrowed from and maybe we could ascride such deficulty to mean that the person you borrowed the said money from could use strange power to stop you from being able to pay the money back as at when due

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June 13, 2024, 01:14:40 PM
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However, whether we realize it or not, in modern times like this there are still many people who gamble, believe in things that are supernatural or related to natural codes to win a game, even though gambling games require mathematics, analysis and strategy to be able to win. I don't believe in superstition in gambling, but we can't deny that there are still many who believe in it, especially in lottery games.
I see that happens to many people here and they related that supernatural with gambling. They believes that what they do with supernatural can helps them wins the gambling games.
But they don't know what the impact they gets from playing with supernatural. They can wins but not with supernatural because they luck comes in the right time so they thinks that they wins is because of they use supernatural thing.
We don't have to thinks about supernatural in gambling although some people still use supernatural when playing gambling. If we just wants to enjoy the gambling games, then we can playing gambling without thinks about the supernatural thing.

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June 13, 2024, 03:56:42 PM
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I personally do not believe in superstitious stories, I believe in the principle that everyone has a free choice, Fate, decision to decide and not necessarily influenced by any demonic or satanic stuffs, this is ridiculous how Satan will control someone to gamble and cause the loss of that person, so others who won weren't manipulated or we only loss when satan is involved, we need wash our brains and understand what gambling really is before we involve satan.
I don't believe in them myself, I feel like it's foolish to have such thoughts, like how in the world would you win more money on a specific day if you are not lucky or if you are not destined to win any? It's all dependent on your luck and destiny and you can't expect these things to change or be on your side on specific days or specific hours in a day, it doesn't work that way, you can get lucky any day, and the same is the principle for being unlucky.

So, whether it's about gambling or something else because people with superstitious beliefs would have the same sort of thoughts for everything. They would even have days decided for doing exercise or eating specific food and they only do them on those days and not in any other day. It's crazy, to be honest.

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June 13, 2024, 04:13:54 PM
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Gambling is a normal play that just got monetized to become a business for the owners and a source of joy and some sort of passive streams of income for others. Those
set of people that are superstitious with gambling  are the same set of people that think that almost everything is demonic including being a fan of a sports team or evening using the Internet is also demonic.

For as long as I know, gambling isn't something that's all that complex to understand that will make me factor out any sort of demonic trends into it. Instead of assuming that  gambling is demonic, I would rather think that borrowing is actually demonic as it's always deficult to pay back from someone you've borrowed from and maybe we could ascride such deficulty to mean that the person you borrowed the said money from could use strange power to stop you from being able to pay the money back as at when due
It happens,the superstitious believe about gambling is that since gambling is what people like,the enemy of a particular person can make him so addicted to gambling that there is no amount of money he will win from gambling that will be enough to settle his problem,he must always want to spend all of them for nothing,keep borrowing more when it finishes,and remain in debt because a spell has been kept on him.
While on the other hand, someone can borrow you money,and go fetish for you to be unable to pay the money in time so that when he will eventually ask you,it will be that the money has increased,and the debtor will be unable to pay,which will result in him giving out one of his landed properties to pay the person that borrowed him.

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June 14, 2024, 03:18:38 PM
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I live in Africa and here in Africa since I was born I have always heard stories of many people who went to witch doctors to have luck in life, I have always heard stories of people who went to witch doctors to earn a lot of money. If these people who went to witch doctors to make a lot of money or change their lives were successful, I honestly doubt very much that they really succeeded, but it is a fact that a good part of the people in my country, when they are in despair in life, they immediately They spend what little money they have left going to my country's wizards because they believe he will be able to fix their lives. For example, this is a photo of one of my country's wizards



he is not a casino owner, there is little chance of him being a person who is involved in gambling, so anyone who thinks correctly will see that he is a liar, if he really had some power then he would be very rich, he He could match all the lottery tickets, he could match all the sports betting games. With that I'm saying that we shouldn't believe in nonsense things like superstition


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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

        -   It depends on whether you believe what the person told you; if you believe what he said, for sure you will stop gambling. But in your story, you didn't believe what he said because you laughed, didn't you? But anyway, you can just ignore what he mentioned.

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June 14, 2024, 03:52:43 PM
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

        -   It depends on whether you believe what the person told you; if you believe what he said, for sure you will stop gambling. But in your story, you didn't believe what he said because you laughed, didn't you? But anyway, you can just ignore what he mentioned.

Maybe it can be said that some gamblers become bad because of gambling, but there are others who do not become bad despite the fact that they gamble. So, that means it depends on us if we become bad because of gambling.
The moderate view is that everything that may arise from gambling will depend on how we respond and react, if someone has the conclusion that the winnings are manipulated and leaves it all to the casino owner who owns the winnings and whatever it becomes like real and superstitious.
But we have to find out how the house performs against us? Is it really controlled? or is it just a random calculation so that luck can be created in gambling without any third party to get it.

Believe it or not this is indeed back to each one, the good and bad effects also depend on the gambler who does it.

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I mostly agree with your point of view and I was aware there is a very strong belief in Africa with comes to witch doctors, spiritual healing and other things which have sound like Mumbo Jumbo to many of us. Though, There is something interesting I read about in one of those little books/maganizes the Jehova Witnesses usually like to spread around for people to follow their church.
That specific versión of the magazine has an story about a young girl from the United States who apparently had the power to see the future of others on the short and mid term. She started to use that ability to make predictions for fun, with her friends, telling them what was going to happen to them the next day, quite mundane things, like whether they were going to get some extra money from their parents, or get their car broken down. However, in the story she was unable to see her own future not even a single day ahead, only the future of others.

The story concludes that she stopped doing those things after understanding with the help of the Jehova witnesses that she was getting information from fallen angels.

Perhaps, a similar is what goes own with those witch doctors and healers from Africa? What do you think?

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June 14, 2024, 05:21:20 PM
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

        -   It depends on whether you believe what the person told you; if you believe what he said, for sure you will stop gambling. But in your story, you didn't believe what he said because you laughed, didn't you? But anyway, you can just ignore what he mentioned.

Maybe it can be said that some gamblers become bad because of gambling, but there are others who do not become bad despite the fact that they gamble. So, that means it depends on us if we become bad because of gambling.
Yes, this is true on which not all things we do have in mind would really be something that be conclusive or could really be applied to all. Perceptions and views would really be that different to each other but it cant really be denied that when it comes to gamblimg impressions and views on which it would really be biased on the negative side on which its not really that surprising. Believing others words? It would really be just that depending on you because we do have our own will and thinking about various things on which it would really be that so impossible that you would really be just that simply agreeing on what others been saying and you would really be tending to make yourself that completely stop just because you had believe that gambling is bad or something that will really be affecting you negatively.

When it comes to gambling then it isnt really that bad, as long you arent that compromising something then you should really be just that fine. It is really just that there are really individuals
who would really be going into certain extents and this is why they do really end up on a disaster.

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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
I don't see any room for prejudice against gambling in today's technological age. Gambling is a game where gamblers predict their own wins and losses. Gambling sites have many games and they are made very difficult so that gamblers cannot win them easily. You can win up to 2x-1000x more if you gamble. Do you think it should be very easy to become such a win in moments?  So before going to gamble you must be careful and accept these risks and then start gambling. There should be no superstition in gambling. If he loses in gambling, he should understand that it is his misfortune and he should accept the responsibility with a smile.

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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it,

 What's your opinion about this please?
It's true that people will always have diverse opinions about gambling, but yet that doesn't make gambling an evil act, as it's just a mere business which involves trying of luck. Hence, if you see people speak so bad about gambling, it's literally a sign maybe they might have lost huge sum to gambling or either knows someone who lost huge sum to gambling. Gambling is not a sin, and can never be an act of demonic manipulation, it's just business, and the earlier these people understand it this way as the primarily aim/concept of gambling, the better for them, because the probability of the casino winning is always higher than that of the gambler, which is why if you lucky enough to win, you could get paid over a $10,000 by simply betting with ordinary $5 to $10.

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June 14, 2024, 07:50:22 PM
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I boarded a bus going home from the bank yesterday, then I remembered some football match had few minutes to kick-off then I brought out my phone from my pocket to place some bet, immediately I opened the bet app a man sitting next to me, tapped me and said that gambling is Satanic and I should desist from it, at first it sounded so funny and made me laugh but with a serious face he further said that it's manipulated by demons and that's why the house would always have the higher edge. He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?
I don't see any room for prejudice against gambling in today's technological age. Gambling is a game where gamblers predict their own wins and losses. Gambling sites have many games and they are made very difficult so that gamblers cannot win them easily. You can win up to 2x-1000x more if you gamble. Do you think it should be very easy to become such a win in moments?  So before going to gamble you must be careful and accept these risks and then start gambling. There should be no superstition in gambling. If he loses in gambling, he should understand that it is his misfortune and he should accept the responsibility with a smile.
We all have different opinions about gambling and it's important follow our own not minding what other people think because that could have serious effects on us as gamblers if we keep thinking about other people's opinions. We have to get motivated and keep working and creating a better strategies that would always be profitable with high winning ratio compared to losses. Planning and executing are the things that would would trigger us to make money as gambler not minding or bothering oneself about what other gamblers think about us. The concentration should be to make money because that is the major reasons why we all are working.

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June 14, 2024, 08:05:59 PM
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We all have different opinions about gambling and it's important follow our own not minding what other people think because that could have serious effects on us as gamblers if we keep thinking about other people's opinions. We have to get motivated and keep working and creating a better strategies that would always be profitable with high winning ratio compared to losses. Planning and executing are the things that would would trigger us to make money as gambler not minding or bothering oneself about what other gamblers think about us. The concentration should be to make money because that is the major reasons why we all are working.

Do you think that the concentration is to make money in gambling? that's actually not recommendable if that's what you're talking about. But, on the other hand, gamblers are meant to concentrate mostly on the business which actually yields them money. What people think about gambling and us the players doesn't have much impact on what the casino tends to provide for players as results. It could be win or its opposite.

Nothing actually beats being open towards non gambler's expression and questions about us. A lot of them would learn via this medium and the perspective they have the player would change immediately. Isn't it why we read and learn about gambling, to teach others and change their perspective. When we allow false thoughts flow within non gamblers it opens a threat to the players to always accept they're doing the wrong thing.

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June 15, 2024, 04:21:53 PM
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he is not a casino owner, there is little chance of him being a person who is involved in gambling, so anyone who thinks correctly will see that he is a liar, if he really had some power then he would be very rich, he He could match all the lottery tickets, he could match all the sports betting games. With that I'm saying that we shouldn't believe in nonsense things like superstition
I am equally an African and we also have witch doctors in  My country. So I can tell you that people with super powers have boundaries to what they reveal, they may have powers to predict a game and win in gambling, but there a risk and task regarding witch prediction, and if you don't have the mind to take the risk then you can not be granted what you seak. That is to tell you that nothing good comes so easy  the witch doctors are not exempted in the task of using vudu to generate a betting code, but they chose not to, because they want to leave longer. Anything that involves making excessive money with vudu, be it gambling or whatsoever all are money ritual. That is why they chose not to use such power to become rich because of the side effect of it.

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June 15, 2024, 04:37:25 PM
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Your story OP sounds funny to me,but I can say that the man  is looking for a means to actually stop people from gambling,and he knows if he goes directly to tell you normally that it isn't good,you won't listen to him,so him involving Satan and saying it's the devil that directs the casino so that people will lose is just a way to scare you.
If I were you,or I were to be in that bus,I will ask him if he had seen the devil himself,or why he felt it is the devil that controls it.To me,I don't see any satanism in gambling,people who are lucky often wins,and the unlucky people loses,there is no superstitiousness in the business of gambling,it is purely on luck.

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June 15, 2024, 05:42:44 PM
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Casinos are not making people addicts it is just the people who abuse gambling in the wrong way and then try to blame the system instead of taking responsibility. This stranger from the bus had the wrong influence or confused himself with religious beliefs and conspiracy theories spread around the internet and created his version of why gambling is bad.

It's like demons have no other job than looking for people who open their app and make bet. Tongue

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June 15, 2024, 05:54:35 PM
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He said he used to be a gambler but stopped when he discovered that and that there are demons helping the casino and sport betting owners to manipulate people into becoming addicted and getting more money from them, they give to selective people knowing fully well more people would lose and they'll gain back what they lost when more bettors lose the old man made it sound real but I don't believe that, i think he's lost too much in gambling before he stopped and is looking for anyway no matter what to discourage people from being like him or he's just being too superstitious. What's your opinion about this please?

There is no doubt that the casino and the bookies (in case you are betting) will earn more than the gamblers but there is no truth that demons helping the casino owners. The model and algorithm of gambling (including the house edge) are designed in a way that it will favour the casino more than the end user (the gambler).

Some people have superstitious beliefs and therefore they are relating the edge of the casino as a divine help, while actually it is not. Gamblers already know that casino owners are at the advantage, however, if the gamblers play sensibly and responsibly they could also make money out of it (and demons help the gamblers too  Wink)

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