Rating Place Trust Abuse and attacks

[notblox1]

I am asking for opinion from DT members with experience.

For anyone who dont know, member Rating Place not long ago changed his username from Peeps Place.
He has a long reputation in gambling section for asking money from casino to list them better on his list that nobody uses.
If casino dont accept his offer than he is giving them low rating and always talks negative about that casino, supporting everyone who attacks them.
After we didnt agree on many things I ignored him long time ago, and I only saw his posts when someone else quoted him.

Few days ago after I did testing of one new casino member Rat, that is short from Rating Place, decided to abuse trust and accuse me for doing the same thing.
I never had anything to do with him and we never traded, but he gave me negative feedback and accused me without proof for abusing trust and stalking posters.
I dont know who are those stalked posters, but I cant stalk someone who I ignore.

notblox1

2024-05-19

Abuses trust system and stalks posters that he dislikes.

I can be wrong with giving feedback sometimes, but Peeps Place only received neutral feedback from me for the same reason TwitchySeal gave him in 2016.
He is still holding grudge from 2016 and he continues to attack Sportsbet casino every time he can, you can confirm that in Scam Accusation section.

TwitchySeal

2016-06-15

Reference

I believe peeps actively requests payment from sites on his "#1 Ratings" list. I believe the sites decision to pay peepsplace or not pay directly affects a sites rating. For example: I believe DirectBet has a poor rating because they refuse to pay and Betcoin.ag has a favorable rating because they do pay. I hope peepsplace will eventually realize that by not being transparent he is nothing more than a catalyst of corruption. Reference linked is dated, but recent behavior makes me believe not much has changed.

After I did latest testing of Anonbet casino and create Scam Accusation against them, Rat directly attacked me and told other members not to trust me.
He lied or he didnt know or didnt saw that I made deposit on that website, and he indirectly defended Anonbet and even helped them to oppose flag against them with instructions.
Rat never tested or used Anonbet casino, and he refused to do that after I asked him.
Only after I posted all the evidence he changed his story and said that Anonbet is probably a scam.

Rat is always editing his posts, but luckily we have archive in this forum.

You got mad, went 10 years back to 2014 and just now decided to post negative trust about a lie.

He dont dont how trust works in bitcointalk forum, but I was not mad and I only gave him neutral feedback because he continues to do the same thing from 2016 today.

I’m not going to review Anonbet for a while. They will be NR for now.

Notblox didn’t make a deposit and he didn’t wait 24 hours. He’s a forum troll that posts things that are untrue. He should have waited. No one here seems to have deposited. How can Anonbet scam when they stole no money. It’s not to say they won’t scam later.

On the other hand, be careful with notblox as he has made false allegations in the past. notblox made no deposits to Anonbet.

Do your own research before believing notblox as he has made false allegations in the past.

Here is AnonBet personally thanking Rat:

First of all, we would like to explicitly thank Rating Place, because we would have never known about this topic if it was not for them.

If I gave negative feedback and created flag against Anonbet I did it because I used their website, send my own coins and I could not withdraw anything.
I can always change feedback and remove flags but I need very good reason for that, and this has nothing to do with Rat.

[Rating Place]

Quick reply.

10 years, over 3700 posts and my thread with over 258,000 views says it all. There would be negative trust from respected members if something were wrong. The untrusted feedback is also good.

The ratings aren’t paid for and I don’t ask for pay. I asked Theymos to change my username since I have nothing to do with peepsplace.com and he was nice enough to do it. When a person doesn’t like a rating the go to card is the ratings are paid for.

I spend almost all my time here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.4300 or in scam accusations trying to help the community.

In 2016 I put up a C rating for Sportsbet. Some of the posters with a Sportsbet signature didn’t like it. Twitchy Seal gave me neutral trust right after that for something that happened two years prior in 2014. Notblox just gave me neutral trust for something that happened 10 years ago. Directbet was a book that was untruthful since he didn’t like his rating.

In my whole time here since 2014 I’ve been given neutral trust 2 times both by people with Sportsbet signatures and they went back years to find something.

Notblox won approximately $60 in free spins at Aninbet. In order to withdraw the player needs to deposit and it can take up to 24 hours. Prior to 24 hours with no deposit, notblox created a flag which is abuse of the trust system since there were no damages. Notblox used the forum to strong arm a casino. I think that notblox is untrustworthy. If I’m wrong in the eyes of respected members then I’ll happily delete it.

Notblox has stalked me for over a year in many threads. Most of what he posts is untrue. With Anonbet I told posters don’t deposit, they are most likely a 1 man shop and the site looks cheap. As you can see notblox tried to spin this. Anonbet only thanked me because somewhere in there ANN thread I mentioned the case was in scam accusations. They then thanked me for making them aware. I do not support Anonbet. I can post quotes and evidence if wanted. Lastly, notblox has threatened other members with negative feedback if they support Anonbet.

Now I have a nice proof to give negative feedback to Rat and to everyone else who defended AnonBet scam.

[nutildah]

I asked Theymos to change my username since I have nothing to do with peepsplace and he was nice enough to do it.

10 years, over 3700 posts and my thread with over 250,000 views says it all. There would be negative trust from respected members if something were wrong. The untrusted feedback is also good.

I don't get it... You have nothing to do with "Peeps Place", yet you went by that name for 10 years, and you're taking credit for the thread started by an account named "Peeps Place"? Could be I'm just missing something.

The ratings aren’t paid for and I don’t ask for pay. I asked Theymos to change my username since I have nothing to do with peepsplace and he was nice enough to do it.

I see in Twitchy's feedback he says "I believe peeps actively requests payment from sites on his "#1 Ratings" list."... The link in the feedback points to a statement by DirectBet (which turned out to be one of the most honest sportsbooks crypto has ever seen) stating something a bit different: that you are getting paid for advertising sportsbooks rather than paid for ratings.

Regardless, I wouldn't worry about either feedback too much as they are just neutrals.

[Jawhead999]

If I understood the context correctly, @OP had a problem with anonbet, but now he already received the money, so why you didn't remove the negative feedback and withdraw the flag? I mean your case has been resolved. On the other hand, @Rating Place might got mad after getting neutral feedback from @OP and decided to give negative feedback by using the case against anonbet.

I would say @OP and @Rating Place should delete the negative feedback, but if you guys want to change to neutral, then I have nothing to say anymore since neutral feedback is fine.

[Rating Place]

My only concern is that notblox is reckless with his feedback, stalking and other actions. He had to withdraw another flag after getting no support. He tried to damage that business. He is now threatening people with negative trust if they don’t agree with him. He tried to force Anonbet to pay before adhering to the terms. I don’t think that anyone should deal with him monetarily because of his actions.

Admittedly, I’m not all that familiar in giving out trust since I’ve only done it twice. Maybe I was wrong with negative trust. Thanks for the two replies so far and I’ll check back within 12 hours.

[notblox1]

He had to withdraw another flag after getting no support. He tried to damage that business.

I would love to see what legitimate business I was trying to damage, so please post more information about that here? Was it bitherium, casino_sa_toshi or ethereum-c maybe?

Only one who is trying to create damage for businesses that work for years and have good reputation is you Rat, other members from gambling board can confirm that.

Notblox won approximately $60 in free spins at Aninbet. In order to withdraw the player needs to deposit and it can take up to 24 hours. Prior to 24 hours with no deposit, notblox created a flag which is abuse of the trust system since there were no damages.

How would you know when you never even used Anonbet website, and I can assume that is the case with all other casinos you fake rated.
For the record I did make a deposit, so you are a liar, and I dont care about $60 unlike you, only reason was to warn other members about shady casino.

Notblox has stalked me for over a year in many threads.

Sorry but I dont care about you, it is you who are obsessed with some casinos.
Like I said, I had you on ignore for a very long time, but I did notice you always add fuel in every scam accusation against Sportsbet.
I dont care about your feedback and your word means nothing in bitcointak forum, understand this.

Admittedly, I’m not all that familiar in giving out trust since I’ve only done it twice.

Textbook trust abuse.

I don't get it... You have nothing to do with "Peeps Place", yet you went by that name for 10 years, and you're taking credit for the thread started by an account named "Peeps Place"?

This is just one more of his stupid explanation  
He tried to rebrand himself, but Poops Place or Rat Place it is all the same big nothingburger.

Regardless, I wouldn't worry about either feedback too much as they are just neutrals.

His feedback in negative.
That is trust abuse.

This is Rat teaching Anonbet and others how to use Trust system, give negative trust and oppose flags, and today he admitted that he doesnt even know how to use it  

when you click on trust of a person, you can give negative trust. Under negative trust you can also add a flag. But the only time that you should add a flag is if there are actual damages or you use a warning flag that can only be seen by beginners and newbies. Then others can support the flag or oppose the flag if they wish.

[nutildah]

His feedback in negative.
That is trust abuse.

I suppose there's a case for that. But I wouldn't worry about it as he will never be on DT. I have a billion negative feedbacks and none of them mean anything.

[Rating Place]

He had to withdraw another flag after getting no support. He tried to damage that business.

I would love to see what legitimate business I was trying to damage, so please post more information about that here? Was it bitherium, casino_sa_toshi or ethereum-c maybe?

Only one who is trying to create damage for businesses that work for years and have good reputation is you Rat, other members from gambling board can confirm that.

Notblox won approximately $60 in free spins at Aninbet. In order to withdraw the player needs to deposit and it can take up to 24 hours. Prior to 24 hours with no deposit, notblox created a flag which is abuse of the trust system since there were no damages.

How would you know when you never even used Anonbet website, and I can assume that is the case with all other casinos you fake rated.
For the record I did make a deposit, so you are a liar, and I dont care about $60 unlike you, only reason was to warn other members about shady casino.

Notblox has stalked me for over a year in many threads.

Sorry but I dont care about you, it is you who are obsessed with some casinos.
Like I said, I had you on ignore for a very long time, but I did notice you always add fuel in every scam accusation against Sportsbet.
I dont care about your feedback and your word means nothing in bitcointak forum, understand this.

Admittedly, I’m not all that familiar in giving out trust since I’ve only done it twice.

Textbook trust abuse.

I don't get it... You have nothing to do with "Peeps Place", yet you went by that name for 10 years, and you're taking credit for the thread started by an account named "Peeps Place"?

This is just one more of his stupid explanation  
He tried to rebrand himself, but Poops Place or Rat Place it is all the same big nothingburger.

Regardless, I wouldn't worry about either feedback too much as they are just neutrals.

His feedback in negative.
That is trust abuse.

This is Rat teaching Anonbet and others how to use Trust system, give negative trust and oppose flags, and today he admitted that he doesnt even know how to use it  

when you click on trust of a person, you can give negative trust. Under negative trust you can also add a flag. But the only time that you should add a flag is if there are actual damages or you use a warning flag that can only be seen by beginners and newbies. Then others can support the flag or oppose the flag if they wish.

Most of your posts are childish and untrue so I’m not going to entertain you much longer on this.

Did you create a flag before making a deposit? Did you create a flag before waiting 24 hours to receive your withdrawal? According to the ToS do you need to make a deposit before requesting a withdraw and do they state withdrawals can take up to 24 hours?

Did you threaten other members with negative trust if they sided with Anonbet?

It seems that you abused the trust system and threatened others to force Anonbet to pay you money that you weren’t entitled thus the definition of untrustworthy.

[holydarkness]

Most of your posts are childish and untrue so I’m not going to entertain you much longer on this.

Did you create a flag before making a deposit? Did you create a flag before waiting 24 hours to receive your withdrawal? According to the ToS do you need to make a deposit before requesting a withdraw and do they state withdrawals can take up to 24 hours?

Did you threaten other members with negative trust if they sided with Anonbet?

It seems that you abused the trust system and threatened others to force Anonbet to pay you money that you weren’t entitled thus the definition of untrustworthy.

I gave that thread a read, and though I have to agree that the flag is a bit premature and perhaps the issue on the thread being referred here can be resolved in a better situation, to answer the question,

Did you create a flag before making a deposit? No, he deposited before making a flag.

Did you create a flag before waiting 24 hours to receive your withdrawal? No, he waited roughly 47 hours, deposited on 19th May, 02:15:27 p.m. UTC+0 [forum time], his flag was on 21st of May, 01:52:10 p.m.

[...]I did make a deposit and it is impossible to withdraw anything from thisSCAM website.[...]

The other two question, I will leave unanswered as it'll just complicate and escalate things.

IMO, notblox worries, though a bit premature and unnecessary, is not completely baseless. He waited for more than the time stated on their ToS. Combine that with difficulties in captcha, I believe someone else can easily draw the same conclusion.

I think it's worth to mention that not only notblox1 withdraw his flag, he asked the supporters of the flag to withdraw their supports too. I believe this can be seen as a gesture of admitting mistake and fixing things from his side. And from my own experience, it can be a very hard pill to swallow.

Saying this as an abuse of trust system, because he raised a flag and then withdraw it when things got sorted out is, IMO, a tad bit overreacting, given the "abuse" apparently is a misunderstanding that rooted from several strong basis.

With our current conversation on other thread, I am very well aware that what I'll say next can be easily seen as an attempt to attack you, but please be assured that it is not, I treat that topic as separate issue from this one. That said, and to rip off the bandage, your feedback, though, can be considered as an abuse, you leave him a negative feedback for a rather unfounded reason; trust abuse, which sorted as above, and stalking... I don't think we can leave someone a negative feedback for stalking someone else? Can we?

All things above said, do you mind to perhaps deescalate this situation and withdraw your negative?

[Rating Place]

Most of your posts are childish and untrue so I’m not going to entertain you much longer on this.

Did you create a flag before making a deposit? Did you create a flag before waiting 24 hours to receive your withdrawal? According to the ToS do you need to make a deposit before requesting a withdraw and do they state withdrawals can take up to 24 hours?

Did you threaten other members with negative trust if they sided with Anonbet?

It seems that you abused the trust system and threatened others to force Anonbet to pay you money that you weren’t entitled thus the definition of untrustworthy.

I gave that thread a read, and though I have to agree that the flag is a bit premature and perhaps the issue on the thread being referred here can be resolved in a better situation, to answer the question,

Did you create a flag before making a deposit? No, he deposited before making a flag.

Did you create a flag before waiting 24 hours to receive your withdrawal? No, he waited roughly 47 hours, deposited on 19th May, 02:15:27 p.m. UTC+0 [forum time], his flag was on 21st of May, 01:52:10 p.m.

[...]I did make a deposit and it is impossible to withdraw anything from thisSCAM website.[...]

The other two question, I will leave unanswered as it'll just complicate and escalate things.

IMO, notblox worries, though a bit premature and unnecessary, is not completely baseless. He waited for more than the time stated on their ToS. Combine that with difficulties in captcha, I believe someone else can easily draw the same conclusion.

I think it's worth to mention that not only notblox1 withdraw his flag, he asked the supporters of the flag to withdraw their supports too. I believe this can be seen as a gesture of admitting mistake and fixing things from his side. And from my own experience, it can be a very hard pill to swallow.

Saying this as an abuse of trust system, because he raised a flag and then withdraw it when things got sorted out is, IMO, a tad bit overreacting, given the "abuse" apparently is a misunderstanding that rooted from several strong basis.

With our current conversation on other thread, I am very well aware that what I'll say next can be easily seen as an attempt to attack you, but please be assured that it is not, I treat that topic as separate issue from this one. That said, and to rip off the bandage, your feedback, though, can be considered as an abuse, you leave him a negative feedback for a rather unfounded reason; trust abuse, which sorted as above, and stalking... I don't think we can leave someone a negative feedback for stalking someone else? Can we?

All things above said, do you mind to perhaps deescalate this situation and withdraw your negative?

you’re familiar with the situation and I respect your opinion so I’ll delete the negative trust if the events occurred as stated. I’ll check the timeline later. As long as the flag went up after deposit, the trust will be down.

[holydarkness]

you’re familiar with the situation and I respect your opinion so I’ll delete the negative trust if the events occurred as stated. I’ll check the timeline later. As long as the flag went up after deposit, the trust will be down.

I... specifically snipped-and-quoted notblox1 and crafted my post that way to show the timeline. Specifically. Like... with all intention. They are all there. The post he made stating he deposited happened on 19th May, 02:15 p.m., his flag was logged by BPIP system, created [shown as well on that screenshot] on 21th of May, 01:52 p.m.

[Rating Place]

you’re familiar with the situation and I respect your opinion so I’ll delete the negative trust if the events occurred as stated. I’ll check the timeline later. As long as the flag went up after deposit, the trust will be down.

I... specifically snipped-and-quoted notblox1 and crafted my post that way to show the timeline. Specifically. Like... with all intention. They are all there. The post he made stating he deposited happened on 19th May, 02:15 p.m., his flag was logged by BPIP system, created [shown as well on that screenshot] on 21th of May, 01:52 p.m.

Thanks for making it easy on me but something doesn't seem right. When he started his thread on May 18th he said please support the flag with a link. I looked at it myself.

Just found this. He created the flag on the 18th, didn't wait 24 hours and hadn't deposited.

anonbet.net   2024-05-18   Reference   (Created flag)

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notblox

In a nutshell here's the problem with notblox. He threatens posters with negative feedback. He'll give feedback and then delete it when he gets his way. He's your basic forum bully troll and a pathological liar. His first post isn't close to the truth. Anonbet will most likely end up of shutting the doors. It's fair to warn posters in their ANN thread, but notblox just used a flag on May 18 to bully Anonbet into paying $66 without meeting requirements. No one should be trading money with him.

Most likely he went in for a withdrawal, the system said you need to make one deposit and he created a flag. All for $66.

Now that everything’s out there should I change it to neutral or keep as is? Taking everything down is off the board. It is deserved and is the only negative or neutral trust that I've ever given out. When someone puts up ratings, they put a target on their back. I'm use to criticism from those paid by books so that doesn’t really bother me. This negative trust given isn't retaliatory.

[holydarkness]

[...]
Thanks for making it easy on me but something doesn't seem right. When he started his thread on May 18th he said please support the flag with a link. I looked at it myself.

Just found this. He created the flag on the 18th, didn't wait 24 hours and hadn't deposited.

anonbet.net   2024-05-18   Reference   (Created flag)

[...]

Hmm... TIL, BPIP flag log is [perhaps] the time a flag become active.

Nonetheless, even if he [hastily, as established and acknowledged by many] created the flag before depositing, I believe out of concern for the community, due to the signs that he encountered so far at that time, wasn't the important point is [as I said on my first post here on this thread] he withdrew it when he realized that his concern is unfounded?

He does not abuse the trust and flag system. Your negative though, does. The trust feedback is meant to be used to warn others about possible risk of scam; monetary lost and all. IIRC, GazetaBitcoin even tries to emphasize this point by referring it as "marketplace trust" whenever the needs arise instead of simple "trust", to indicate that it is meant to be used to help members learning who is trustworthy to be dealt with where money is involved and which member is likely to scam others.

The question for you: do you think that notblox1 has a likeliness to scam someone?

I'll invite you to read LoyceV's guide to trust system, I'll snip to the parts that's relevant to this situation

[...]
Once you fully understand the system, it's important to start using it:

• Did you do a trade in which you risked funds? Leave feedback!
• Did you see users who left accurate Trust feedback on many accounts? Add them to your Trust list!

Anyone can leave feedback, and anyone can customize their Trust list!
[...]
Trust feedback
Trust feedback (Positive/Neutral/Negative) can be used to express your opinion about someone's trustworthiness. In other words: would you trust or have you trusted this user with your money?
[...]
Negative (shown as -1)

• If you believe someone is a scammer, or someone is likely to scam, that deserves negative feedback. Please provide evidence.
• If you really hate someone and he's a terrible troll, that does not deserve negative feedback.

[...]

[notblox1]

I suppose there's a case for that. But I wouldn't worry about it as he will never be on DT. I have a billion negative feedbacks and none of them mean anything.

I know that, and I dont care about his feedback, but he is going to continue abusing trust with same behavior towards other members and business.

If you really hate someone and he's a terrible troll, that does not deserve negative feedback.

He is calling me a troll all the time and I dont think he likes me very much.

Few examples:

He's your basic forum bully troll and a pathological liar.

You stalk and troll posters.

He’s a forum troll that posts things that are untrue.

He does not abuse the trust and flag system. Your negative though, does.

Short and simple explanation easy to understand for everyone.
I am done talking with Rat and I put him back on ignore after he didn't reply to any of my questions, and after he admitted that he doesnt know how trust system work.
Because he continues with his abuse towards me and others, and he is not willing to change, I have no other choice but to make proper use of trust system, and I hope he is going to learn something from this.

[Rating Place]

Your posts on 5/17 were before the Anonbet situation.

Another bullying attempt in your post above.

I have no other choice but to make proper use of trust system, and I hope he is going to learn something from this.

The other feedback on notblox does a nice job encompassing his behavior.

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1. 5/19 you gave me neutral feedback for something that happened 10 years ago. I haven't posted at peepsplace in ages and peepsplace no longer takes advertising.

2. 5/19

Rat Peeps Poop Place list making false accusations, accused for asking money for his fake casino rating list.

3. 5/19

You can check profile of that rat member, and you will see feedback he received when he tried to extort money from casinos to move them up on his list.

4 5/19

Same rat member is also attacking and accusing me for trolling, and in the same time he is defending scam casino and telling people not to trust my words.

5. 5/119

I do research, invest time and my coins to test casinos, and rat doesnt do shit and pretends to know something about casino   Tongue

5. 5/19

Now I have a nice proof to give negative feedback to Rat and to everyone else who defended AnonBet scam.

6. 5/17

Nobody should trust fake ratings coming from trust pilot and dont trust anything posted by that user rat who changed username from peeps place.

7.  5/17

He is known for asking money payment from many casinos to move them up on his fake rating place, so it is better to ignore him in forum.

8. 5/17 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283832.msg64099251#msg64099251 List of scam sites

making false accusations, accused for asking money for his fake casino rating list.

notblox gives negative trust to people and in the comments posts "Peeps Place" After getting his way, he will delete it.

[Rating Place]

Update, recap and hopefully we can put this to bed.

1. After reading the thoughts by holydarkness, I deleted the post for trolling, bullying and abusing the trust system.

2. Added a negative trust. I do believe that notblox may scam posters because of the Anonbet case. He asked to withdraw money from Anonbet. The Anonbet screen stated that he must first make a deposit before withdrawing. Instead of making a deposit and waiting 24 hours, notblox created a flag trying to force Anonbet into paying money from free spins where he had not met the requirements to withdraw according to the ToS. In the comments section I did link the thread and also added comments about his flaming, trolling, stalking and abusing the trust system.

anonbet.net   2024-05-18   Reference   (Created flag)

notblox

3. Others here have given similar feedback to notblox.



4.  notblox retaliated and posted negative trust. Here are threats that he made stating that he would do so.

Now I have a nice proof to give negative feedback to Rat and to everyone else who defended AnonBet scam.

I have no other choice but to make proper use of trust system, and I hope he is going to learn something from this.

5. notblox trolling posts in the last week. notblox has been stalking me for years after not liking a rating for Sportsbet. These are from 5/17, before the Anonbet case and some from 5/19. Hopefully, this will come to an end and notblox will stop bullying posters and books.

Rat Peeps Poop Place list making false accusations, accused for asking money for his fake casino rating list.

You can check profile of that rat member, and you will see feedback he received when he tried to extort money from casinos to move them up on his list.

Same rat member is also attacking and accusing me for trolling, and in the same time he is defending scam casino and telling people not to trust my words.

I do research, invest time and my coins to test casinos, and rat doesnt do shit and pretends to know something about casino   Tongue

Now I have a nice proof to give negative feedback to Rat and to everyone else who defended AnonBet scam.

Nobody should trust fake ratings coming from trust pilot and dont trust anything posted by that user rat who changed username from peeps place.

He is known for asking money payment from many casinos to move them up on his fake rating place, so it is better to ignore him in forum.

added rating guide as scam site  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283832.msg64099251#msg64099251

making false accusations, accused for asking money for his fake casino rating list.

[Eternad]

2. Added a negative trust. I do believe that notblox may scam posters because of the Anonbet case. He asked to withdraw money from Anonbet. The Anonbet screen stated that he must first make a deposit before withdrawing. Instead of making a deposit and waiting 24 hours, notblox created a flag trying to force Anonbet into paying money from free spins where he had not met the requirements to withdraw according to the ToS. In the comments section I did link the thread and also added comments about his flaming, trolling, stalking and abusing the trust system.

The “deposit before you can withdraw” terms is not part of the promotion term of this casino in question. This terms was stated on the ToS which normal casino doesn’t have.

I want to brought up too how bad this casino looks like and they are still completely new for forcing user to deposit first before they can unlock the feature to withdraw. They are luring users to deposit through the promotion rewards that clearly indicates that rewards is wager free and can be withdrawn immediately.

To cut this story short, OP surely will easily become doubtful when a suspicious casino doesn’t allow him to withdraw after he made the deposit that satisfied their terms considering that this casino is completely new. So I understand the initial reaction to warn everyone about the red flag he encounter that time to protect the community. There’s no guarantee that they will not scam anyone even after they return the OP money due to this insane terms.

[Rating Place]

2. Added a negative trust. I do believe that notblox may scam posters because of the Anonbet case. He asked to withdraw money from Anonbet. The Anonbet screen stated that he must first make a deposit before withdrawing. Instead of making a deposit and waiting 24 hours, notblox created a flag trying to force Anonbet into paying money from free spins where he had not met the requirements to withdraw according to the ToS. In the comments section I did link the thread and also added comments about his flaming, trolling, stalking and abusing the trust system.

The “deposit before you can withdraw” terms is not part of the promotion term of this casino in question. This terms was stated on the ToS which normal casino doesn’t have.

I want to brought up too how bad this casino looks like and they are still completely new for forcing user to deposit first before they can unlock the feature to withdraw. They are luring users to deposit through the promotion rewards that clearly indicates that rewards is wager free and can be withdrawn immediately.

To cut this story short, OP surely will easily become doubtful when a suspicious casino doesn’t allow him to withdraw after he made the deposit that satisfied their terms considering that this casino is completely new. So I understand the initial reaction to warn everyone about the red flag he encounter that time to protect the community. There’s no guarantee that they will not scam anyone even after they return the OP money due to this insane terms.

That first time deposit isn't that unusual. Books don't scam in the first 24 hours since they haven't had time to collect a lot of deposits. He should have deposited and waited 24 hours. His declined withdrawal was no reason for a flag.



You look like a good poster. Thanks for the input.

Here's my previous trust although it is listed as untrusted. The only guy after that was a neutral trust posted in 2016 about something in 2014.


notblox took the flag down. No support but there is opposition by one poster. It seems most thought the flag went up early. I feel the motive was extortion. A lot of other posters have complained of notblox trolling and flaming. He may have been doing the same to Anonbet. I don’t trust any new casino. No one should deposit there but flags can’t be abused or they mean nothing. Here are the two flags withdrawn. Neither met the proper criteria.

This determination is based on concrete red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and it is not based on the user's opinions.

notblox1 alleged the following, but later withdrew it: anonbet.net violated a casual or implied agreement, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. anonbet.net did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around May 2024. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.
Support: (None)
Opposition: logfiles, anonbet.net
Insufficient support.

This was another time he withdrew a flag.

notblox1 alleged the following, but later withdrew it: Due largely to the factors mentioned in this topic, I believe that anyone dealing with bitherium.cc is at a high risk of losing money, and guests would be well-advised to avoid doing so. This determination is based on concrete red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and it is not based on the user's opinions.
Support: (None)
Opposition: (None)
Insufficient support.

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notblox took the flag down. No support but there is opposition by one poster. It seems most thought the flag went up early. I feel the motive was extortion. A lot of other posters have complained of notblox trolling and flaming. He may have been doing the same to Anonbet. I don’t trust any new casino. No one should deposit there but flags can’t be abused or they mean nothing. Here are the two flags withdrawn. Neither met the proper criteria.

This can be considered as an extortion if there’s money at risk on his side. The casino is indeed holding his funds due to manual process of withdrawal that extend waiting time.

Although I agree that flag was sent a little bit early but again I understand him since just like I mention before, this casino is new and has a very poor UI/UX. This is only an extortion attempt if he is asking money greater than the amount he declared which is not.

Most importantly, he withdrew the flag right after the casino send him the funds without asking anymore money.

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This was another time he withdrew a flag.

Why do you insist on deepening this drama?
He created the flag, but later he withdrew it because they were not adequate. He may have reacted hastily at the beginning, but later he corrected his mistake and harmonized it with the norms of the trust system on the forum.
I don't see why you add that to your post. Maybe you didn't get the expected reaction, so you try in every way to keep this drama active.
Why is it a bad thing if someone withdraws the flag?

This can be considered as an extortion if there’s money at risk on his side. The casino is indeed holding his funds due to manual process of withdrawal that extend waiting time.

Although I agree that flag was sent a little bit early but again I understand him since just like I mention before, this casino is new and has a very poor UI/UX. This is only an extortion attempt if he is asking money greater than the amount he declared which is not.

Most importantly, he withdrew the flag right after the casino send him the funds without asking anymore money.

You haven't read what this is about, have you? I mean the whole case?