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August 23, 2024, 08:42:42 PM
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At the end of the day gambling is a personal problem.

If a gambler is by themselves in an island with a phone connected to the internet they can also gamble all their money away.

It's not a social problem like, say, bullying, or something else like that.
I also agree with you, but one thing too is that someone did not just wake up and start gambling one day; sometimes the environment they find themselves in can also influence their involvement in gambling.
 
If someone starts and grows up where they don't come across any form of gambling activity, there is a great possibility that they might not pick up an interest in gambling in their life. Even if they see such things online, only a few will pick up an interest and decide to try them out.
Everything would really be that depending into your control and discipline because if things could really be seen around or simply into your surroundings then high chances that you would really be also doing such stuffs but there would really be those individuals who would really be having those kind of actions on which they would really be playing on the moment that their attention is been drawn out.
We do know that when it comes into this aspect then this is something that will really be that common. Is gambling bad to society? It would really be always reflecting out on someones actions because
you cant be able to blame out something just easily like that. It all matters about on the actions taken by someone because excessive playing on gambling will really be having that negative impact
on you specially if you are an individual who do really that not good when it comes to self control. So better you watch out and be careful about on the actions taken.

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August 26, 2024, 08:29:34 AM
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I am not so sure. After all, no person exists on his own, we all have social connections. And when a person has problems with gambling, they do not only affect him personally. They affect his family and friends, they have impact on his attitude to work, and therefore create problems for his colleagues. So the impact is much stronger and extends far beyond the life of one particular gambler.

That's actually true, and for example if a father of a family loses everything, and even his life, then clearly there are more people affected than just the gambler.

I am comparing it to other, more direct consequences, for example drunk driving, where you can affect other people that are not connected at all to you.

You could be driving to work and a drunk driver crashes with you, killing you in the process. That's quite different compared to gambling and losing all your money.

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August 26, 2024, 08:42:00 AM
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I am not so sure. After all, no person exists on his own, we all have social connections. And when a person has problems with gambling, they do not only affect him personally. They affect his family and friends, they have impact on his attitude to work, and therefore create problems for his colleagues. So the impact is much stronger and extends far beyond the life of one particular gambler.

That's actually true, and for example if a father of a family loses everything, and even his life, then clearly there are more people affected than just the gambler.

I am comparing it to other, more direct consequences, for example drunk driving, where you can affect other people that are not connected at all to you.

You could be driving to work and a drunk driver crashes with you, killing you in the process. That's quite different compared to gambling and losing all your money.
Even though I have my own opinion and perspective to this whole discussion, I definitely will have to agree with you, and this is based or due to my own personal experience with a friend of mine who was addicted to gambling at the time when we were still living close to each other.

His addiction to gambling affected not just his finances, but it also affected those around him like my very self, his actions affected me in several ways I can't really start explaining now, I remember having a really heated argument that almost lead to beat up my wife because of him( the friend).

But you know what? The fact is that most of this addicted gamblers don't usually have any Idea that what they do is affecting those around them, like when I told my friend to stop gambling or atleast, reduce the frequency at which he gambles, to plainly told me that "he's just living his life and spending his money the way he wants to, how was that my business". Very annoying you might want to say, but it's a fact.

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August 27, 2024, 05:17:08 PM
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I am not so sure. After all, no person exists on his own, we all have social connections. And when a person has problems with gambling, they do not only affect him personally. They affect his family and friends, they have impact on his attitude to work, and therefore create problems for his colleagues. So the impact is much stronger and extends far beyond the life of one particular gambler.

That's actually true, and for example if a father of a family loses everything, and even his life, then clearly there are more people affected than just the gambler.

I am comparing it to other, more direct consequences, for example drunk driving, where you can affect other people that are not connected at all to you.

You could be driving to work and a drunk driver crashes with you, killing you in the process. That's quite different compared to gambling and losing all your money.

it's crazy but I heard this week that in Brazil there are people taking loans and putting their name at risk all for gambling, we didn't see it here so often before sports betting got allowed
I think this is one of these cases where having everything allowed ends up in a situation far from ideal for the public

what do you think? gambling should always be allowed for everyone?

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August 27, 2024, 06:19:20 PM
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I also agree with you, but one thing too is that someone did not just wake up and start gambling one day; sometimes the environment they find themselves in can also influence their involvement in gambling.
 
If someone starts and grows up where they don't come across any form of gambling activity, there is a great possibility that they might not pick up an interest in gambling in their life. Even if they see such things online, only a few will pick up an interest and decide to try them out.
Everything would really be that depending into your control and discipline because if things could really be seen around or simply into your surroundings then high chances that you would really be also doing such stuffs but there would really be those individuals who would really be having those kind of actions on which they would really be playing on the moment that their attention is been drawn out.
We do know that when it comes into this aspect then this is something that will really be that common. Is gambling bad to society? It would really be always reflecting out on someones actions because
you cant be able to blame out something just easily like that. It all matters about on the actions taken by someone because excessive playing on gambling will really be having that negative impact
on you specially if you are an individual who do really that not good when it comes to self control. So better you watch out and be careful about on the actions taken.

Yes and it also depends on whether you have the right understanding or not regarding what and how the concept of gambling actually is, I think this is what determines how a gambler treats his gambling activities, simply when a gambler does not have the right understanding regarding the chances and risks in gambling then of course self-control will be something that is difficult to do in any situation.

So it means yes as you understand that if the question is whether gambling is bad or not for society then it will depend on themselves especially depending on whether the gambler has the right understanding or not regarding the chances of winning and the risk of losing money in gambling.

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August 27, 2024, 07:19:14 PM
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At the end of the day gambling is a personal problem.

If a gambler is by themselves in an island with a phone connected to the internet they can also gamble all their money away.

It's not a social problem like, say, bullying, or something else like that.
I also agree with you, but one thing too is that someone did not just wake up and start gambling one day; sometimes the environment they find themselves in can also influence their involvement in gambling.
 
If someone starts and grows up where they don't come across any form of gambling activity, there is a great possibility that they might not pick up an interest in gambling in their life. Even if they see such things online, only a few will pick up an interest and decide to try them out.
Many people are victims of being influenced by society and after that, they will be the ones influencing other persons in society into gambling. Every habit or practice starts with a step. I have also come to realize that what people see often are the things they end up liking it and see it like a normal thing without looking at the negative part of things.

There are some environments we will visit where the people around see gambling as a daily activity while some environments the people there consider gambling to be illegal and a bad practice that no one should be involved in.

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August 27, 2024, 07:26:21 PM
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There is no reason to say that Gambling is bad for society even it may contribute to being affected nationally. Gambling not only affects the people who are gambling and as it is related to money it affects the members of the family, friends, relatives, and later on the nearest people, and in this way, it affects the whole of society.

I think, what makes it bad is because the gambler himself has a bad attitude, because with the bad results he gets in gambling until they do something negative. Thus, they say gambling is bad even though in reality the gambler himself is the one who makes gambling seen as bad, because it has a negative impact. But, if the gambler can control his emotions well then I am sure that the gambler and gambling will not be seen as bad when they have good control over themselves. With that reason, then at least I do not blame gambling entirely, because what makes it bad is those who have excessive emotions.

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August 27, 2024, 08:25:03 PM
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There is no reason to say that Gambling is bad for society even it may contribute to being affected nationally. Gambling not only affects the people who are gambling and as it is related to money it affects the members of the family, friends, relatives, and later on the nearest people, and in this way, it affects the whole of society.

I think, what makes it bad is because the gambler himself has a bad attitude, because with the bad results he gets in gambling until they do something negative. Thus, they say gambling is bad even though in reality the gambler himself is the one who makes gambling seen as bad, because it has a negative impact. But, if the gambler can control his emotions well then I am sure that the gambler and gambling will not be seen as bad when they have good control over themselves. With that reason, then at least I do not blame gambling entirely, because what makes it bad is those who have excessive emotions.
It all matters about on the certain person on how he would really be handling himself when it comes to gambling because it would really be that making gambling to look bad just because
on what people are really that doing. We cant be able to deny that gambling does have that negative reputation for most people or having those impressions on which it isnt really that good
because it is really that focusing into those common effects that it do gives on a certain individual specially on the time or moment that they are really that dealing up too much with it.
On the moment or time that you've been dealing with gambling then you are the ones should really be that responsible into your actions. You would really be ending up on a bad situation
if you would be finding yourself having those impulsive actions to be made on.

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August 28, 2024, 05:57:23 AM
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There is no reason to say that Gambling is bad for society even it may contribute to being affected nationally. Gambling not only affects the people who are gambling and as it is related to money it affects the members of the family, friends, relatives, and later on the nearest people, and in this way, it affects the whole of society.
I think, what makes it bad is because the gambler himself has a bad attitude, because with the bad results he gets in gambling until they do something negative. Thus, they say gambling is bad even though in reality the gambler himself is the one who makes gambling seen as bad, because it has a negative impact. But, if the gambler can control his emotions well then I am sure that the gambler and gambling will not be seen as bad when they have good control over themselves. With that reason, then at least I do not blame gambling entirely, because what makes it bad is those who have excessive emotions.
Well that true, gambling does have impacts and consequences that may cause someone to experience difficult problems in their life, but all of this will only happen to every gambler who cannot take care of themselves.
Good and bad impacts of gambling will always depend on how each person responds and also has an approach to gambling, those who can be responsible and control themselves and continue to gamble without the ambition of making money can still be on the right track.
It just that we often find many gamblers who are addicted and they experience financial ruin or even their families because of the impact of gambling addiction, this is clearly the fault of the gambler himself, blaming gambling too much in cases like this I think is still not right.

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August 28, 2024, 06:58:12 AM
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Good and bad impacts of gambling will always depend on how each person responds and also has an approach to gambling, those who can be responsible and control themselves and continue to gamble without the ambition of making money can still be on the right track.
It just that we often find many gamblers who are addicted and they experience financial ruin or even their families because of the impact of gambling addiction, this is clearly the fault of the gambler himself, blaming gambling too much in cases like this I think is still not right.

It is always very sad to hear that families are destroyed because of uncontrolled gambling. Because in a family, a man should be a breadwinner, he should look for money to provide for the family, so that his wife and children are happy.
And if a man is not even a slacker, but also takes money and things out of the house, then this is terrible. Especially if there is a small child in the apartment, or even a child of a different age. After all, then they look to the father as an example, but he sets a bad example, and this has a bad effect on the children.

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August 28, 2024, 07:08:30 AM
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There is no reason to say that Gambling is bad for society even it may contribute to being affected nationally. Gambling not only affects the people who are gambling and as it is related to money it affects the members of the family, friends, relatives, and later on the nearest people, and in this way, it affects the whole of society.

Yep, with the right tools and self-control, the risks of things going south can be minimized.
However, you are right - it comes full circle through the gamblers to all people near them.

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August 28, 2024, 08:16:23 AM
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Well that true, gambling does have impacts and consequences that may cause someone to experience difficult problems in their life, but all of this will only happen to every gambler who cannot take care of themselves.
Good and bad impacts of gambling will always depend on how each person responds and also has an approach to gambling, those who can be responsible and control themselves and continue to gamble without the ambition of making money can still be on the right track.
It just that we often find many gamblers who are addicted and they experience financial ruin or even their families because of the impact of gambling addiction, this is clearly the fault of the gambler himself, blaming gambling too much in cases like this I think is still not right.

People will always consider as bad everything that makes their account balance decrease, especially if final result does not satisfy them. Every service is bad, because people "dont understand why they pay so much money for". Every shop is bad because "how come that item cost so much?". Every entertainment is bad because "it could be more fun for amount paid". No matter what people do, others always find reason to blame and why it is bad.

 
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People say gambling is bad for the society because the society consist of people that lacks self control  Cheesy

Who is to be blame? For every decisions that humans made it is on us if we succeeded or fumbled, if you get out on the street and kill a man you will be jailed, it is a decision that you made yourself, it is the same with gambling.

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Gambling can make or break you, make sure you can handle it, if you can't you are free to leave.

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August 28, 2024, 08:38:02 AM
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At the end of the day gambling is a personal problem.

If a gambler is by themselves in an island with a phone connected to the internet they can also gamble all their money away.

It's not a social problem like, say, bullying, or something else like that.
I also agree with you, but one thing too is that someone did not just wake up and start gambling one day; sometimes the environment they find themselves in can also influence their involvement in gambling.
 
If someone starts and grows up where they don't come across any form of gambling activity, there is a great possibility that they might not pick up an interest in gambling in their life. Even if they see such things online, only a few will pick up an interest and decide to try them out.
It all boils down to individual interest. If someone that didn't grow up in a gambling environment happens to know about gambling in future, he might misunderstand the purpose for gambling and will gamble for profit due to his mindset. I have also seen people whose most of his family members are gamblers but didn't gamble.

Human can change easily especially when they are after making money and that is why you see the good guy becoming a bad guy because he wants to make money by all means. Whoever is lazy and doesn't want to work hard to earn a living will end up being a gambler irrespective of his environment from young age.

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August 28, 2024, 08:39:52 AM
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People say gambling is bad for the society because the society consist of people that lacks self control  Cheesy

Who is to be blame? For every decisions that humans made it is on us if we succeeded or fumbled, if you get out on the street and kill a man you will be jailed, it is a decision that you made yourself, it is the same with gambling.

A gun can take a life and also protect lives, even weapon of mass destructions were built to scare enemies away, to leave a country alone in peace.

Gambling can make or break you, make sure you can handle it, if you can't you are free to leave.

It's everybody's choice what to do with that knowledge and possibilities at hand. You are right.

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August 28, 2024, 09:52:12 AM
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what do you think? gambling should always be allowed for everyone?

I think that it is definitely not for everyone, definitely not for people who have an irresistible urge to gamble and can't stop in time. But I honestly do not see how this access can be regulated, except for the development of self-control. With the advent of the Internet and VPNs, even restricting gambling in a certain country is not an obstacle for those who want to do it. The casinos themselves will not deny access to players, because this is the source of their income, and they are able to make money from such an addiction.

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August 28, 2024, 10:00:33 AM
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Absolutely agree with you that regulation in this area doesn't work as long as there are ways around blocking. And in general, I believe that there is nothing better when a person has an understanding of the risks of gambling and tries to control himself. As the history of many countries shows, bans do not give significant results in the fight against undesirable trends, but only open another shadow market beyond the control of the authorities. Which of these is more destructive to society is a big question.

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August 28, 2024, 10:12:25 AM
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I think that it is definitely not for everyone, definitely not for people who have an irresistible urge to gamble and can't stop in time. But I honestly do not see how this access can be regulated, except for the development of self-control. With the advent of the Internet and VPNs, even restricting gambling in a certain country is not an obstacle for those who want to do it. The casinos themselves will not deny access to players, because this is the source of their income, and they are able to make money from such an addiction.

Yeah, I think there are many things in society that can't be effectively enforced reasonably.

For example, fare evasion on public transport, or people stealing stuff from shops/groceries, etc...

As a society you need to put some kind of pressure and a show that basically you are enforcing it, but in reality you can't.

You will see people jumping barriers in metros next to security and nothing happens, same with people grabbing something from the shops, many times they just walk away because it's more of a hassle than what it's worth.

They try to make it look like a problem so that the masses don't do it, because if the majority of people do it, then yes, that is a problem.

Same with gambling addiction.

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August 28, 2024, 10:17:58 AM
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.... because if the majority of people do it, then yes, that is a problem.

Same with gambling addiction.

Sadly, but it could be the other way around. If the majority does something, then it could become a new normal. If most people play in casinos, it won't be considered something reprehensible and shameful. Because everyone else does it too. And the question will arise: what's the problem? And addiction will not be considered a problem, but a feature that is forced to be tolerated. In Western society, this is already commonplace on a number of issues. So gambling will not be an exception, in my opinion.

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August 28, 2024, 10:33:44 AM
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Gambling is not bad for the society, because this same gambling has been a narrow escape for desciplined gamblers around the world, it is no lie that casinos makes the best money off gamblers but there are many gamblers with good stories all because of gambling.

If anyone thinks otherwise I will like to ask them to mention any source of making money that has no risk, the reason why gambling could be bad for a society is because the society consist of idiots only and even their government is aware of it, to me this is a big shame for them, they should know that gambling comes with it own risks.

Out of irresponsible gambling an addict is always born, and this doesn't leave greediness behind,  you don't need to control people to be a responsible gambler, they say curiosity kill the cat, only one way to find out, you can't do a mistake with gambling and not learning in an instant what gambling is all about, only stupid people fall at the messy of gambling.

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