Accardo
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June 02, 2024, 09:02:25 PM |
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If someone ask me for money and I can verify it is for gambling, I will humbly refuse because I know I will not be helping such fellow. Imagine the trauma of borrowing money and losing it all to gambling only to be in debt, that is compounded pain for him so I will not want to share in the blame. It is nearly impossible to win gamble with borrowed funds because the moment you realise the money is not yours, your psychology is already messed up. The best approach is always to gamble with personal money and such amount that one can afford to lose. Even gambling company advise their customers to gamble responsibly.
You have made an acceptable and very important point because it should never be done after borrowing money from others and then deciding to gamble with that money. I just thought of gambling but I don't have money, so I borrowed money from someone else, but if I do all this without thinking about whether I can repay the money after borrowing, then it can be said that these people do not have the ability to make the right decision. Every gambler should refrain from all these acts even if it is for their own good. Is quite accurate that those who borrow gamblers money tend to get blamed. So doing this is also to the lender's detriment because when they are losing or when they cannot pay they will say that if you hadn't borrowed them the money they wouldn't have been into the problem they are going through. It's not bad to assist somebody in need of money. That's if what they need the money for would be of great profits to them, not something that will cause more harm to the person. I've read of multiple cases where addicts blame random people for being the reason for their trouble. Imagine going to ask for your money and the player ends up accusing you for contributing to his problems. Such things are very annoying and could make the real owner of the money to feel sad. It will hardly end fine for the player, in the sense that, he'd lose the money. The moment a person says he's using the money for gambling, no need to bother about lending out the money. It's better to avoid them, or give a little amount of money to them and forget about it. Players always feel sure that they'll win big after borrowing the money. But, once the money gets to them, and they try to multiply it via gambling and fail. Their thoughts returns back to normal and they begin to find a way to settle their troubles. Cooking up lies and deceitful talks would be the player's next thoughts when asked for the money. Instead of passing through such treatments in the hand of a gambler. Avoiding it remains the best option.
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June 02, 2024, 09:15:02 PM |
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You are just like me, when someone borrows money for gambling, I will immediately refuse because it is not a good thing for him or for me who lends the money, or simply I know that the person likes to gamble, when asking for a loan I don't give it, we only need to refuse subtly without having to mention his gambling activities, but if the person proves to be trustworthy, even though he is a gambler and says that he will use his money for gambling, I will definitely lend him money.
So you still give a loan to a trusted person even though you know he will use the money for gambling. The answer to the point above is the same as you are not committed to refusing to give a loan to a gambler. When he can't pay it on time because he doesn't have another job, then you You will realize that the person who gave the loan was not the right person, so be careful about giving loans to gamblers or anyone who cannot be trusted.
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June 02, 2024, 09:28:24 PM |
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If you ever want to lend someone your money that you are not familiar with then you should be probably know what he or she is into so that you don't go wasting your money by giving it to the fellow because everyone has their use if money and Gambling is the worse of all, borrowing money to a gambler is just like dashing out your money for free.
Yes, that's the first thing to do to at least find out what the person is going to do with the money they have borrowed, but if they are someone else who really doesn't have a close relationship with you then I think it would be really It is very difficult to find out what their likes are and what habits they have, of course it requires a process to investigate and maybe this is quite complicated, meaning knowing other people's likes is when they are one of our friends or close friends who have a close relationship with us. Actually it's not a problem to lend money, but what is certain is that you have to really be able to make sure that they can pay on time or you ask them for a guarantee, and make sure they won't run away from responsibility, and that's what local banks do in every country. Of course, they ask for guarantees first to minimize unwanted possibilities.
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June 02, 2024, 09:47:39 PM |
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If you ever want to lend someone your money that you are not familiar with then you should be probably know what he or she is into so that you don't go wasting your money by giving it to the fellow because everyone has their use if money and Gambling is the worse of all, borrowing money to a gambler is just like dashing out your money for free.
Yes, that's the first thing to do to at least find out what the person is going to do with the money they have borrowed, but if they are someone else who really doesn't have a close relationship with you then I think it would be really It is very difficult to find out what their likes are and what habits they have, of course it requires a process to investigate and maybe this is quite complicated, meaning knowing other people's likes is when they are one of our friends or close friends who have a close relationship with us. Actually it's not a problem to lend money, but what is certain is that you have to really be able to make sure that they can pay on time or you ask them for a guarantee, and make sure they won't run away from responsibility, and that's what local banks do in every country. Of course, they ask for guarantees first to minimize unwanted possibilities. Actually it would really be something personal on whatever the cause or reason on why someone do borrow up some money but if someone you do know or close to you then it wont really be that somewhat shameful would really be asking about on where you would be using it but even though it would be still that not right on asking something which is personal, but at the moment that you do know that your friend or that someone is a gambler and one day decided to borrow up some funds then it would be that safe to assume that he/she would definitely be making use of it on gambling again. So high probability that you wont really be paid up back at the time that he/she would reached his/her due. So if you dont like on having that kind of headache then better to reject such favor but of course you would be having those kind of tough situation specially if its your friend or someone which is close to you.
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June 02, 2024, 09:54:51 PM |
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You are just like me, when someone borrows money for gambling, I will immediately refuse because it is not a good thing for him or for me who lends the money, or simply I know that the person likes to gamble, when asking for a loan I don't give it, we only need to refuse subtly without having to mention his gambling activities, but if the person proves to be trustworthy, even though he is a gambler and says that he will use his money for gambling, I will definitely lend him money.
So you still give a loan to a trusted person even though you know he will use the money for gambling. The answer to the point above is the same as you are not committed to refusing to give a loan to a gambler. When he can't pay it on time because he doesn't have another job, then you You will realize that the person who gave the loan was not the right person, so be careful about giving loans to gamblers or anyone who cannot be trusted. This fall will be subjective it seems, I really will not lend money carelessly to people and I will not lend money to others if he is a gambler, maybe that sentence is not clear enough for me to say, because I can still lend money to people I trust even though he is a gambler, of course I know more about that person, both from his family, his environment and even the assets in his investment I know the amount as well as his work, I know everything, especially since his income is far greater than my own income. But sometimes he runs out of money somehow he spends his money, but never passes a week he pays his debts to me, obviously only him I can trust even though he is a gambler because he is my best friend, and from his history of debt and credit with other people it does not have a bad history, so that's the reason why I really trust. Maybe in your mind I look inconsistent, in fact I have exceptions for certain people.
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June 02, 2024, 10:09:53 PM |
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Do you usually lend money to relatives, friends, etc.? Have you ever felt bad about it, done it unwillingly?
And when they are female friends, do you lend them? I have never shown other people that I have money "to spare", I have always lived a life "without luxuries" and therefore I have never had the problem of anyone asking me for a loan. However, I have witnessed two very embarrassing situations involving people close to me: - The first was with my father who lent a significant amount of money to a cousin's me so that he could finish renovating a house. He had a fixed salary, but had no credit at the bank. Unfortunately, he lost his job after a few months and was never able to pay my father back.
- The second case occurred with my father-in-law who sold his car in installments to his ex-son-in-law. After a few years, this person separated from his daughter and never paid him back. Fortunately, my father-in-law was able to get the car back, sold it and each of us kept the part of the money "that was owed to us".
You need to know the person you are going to lend money to very well, understand what they are going to do with it, and always refuse the loan if it is for gambling.
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June 02, 2024, 11:59:53 PM |
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When someone requests that you lend money to gamble, take a stand not to give it. If someone is requesting that you provide $2, $5, or $10, then give them if you don't want it back. This is the extreme of gambling because they don't have money and they weren't able to stop themselves. So with the least amount, they keep wagering, and this doesn't stop with one person. They keep asking most of the people, and at some point they themselves will feel down and end up gambling.
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June 03, 2024, 02:57:07 AM |
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When someone requests that you lend money to gamble, take a stand not to give it. If someone is requesting that you provide $2, $5, or $10, then give them if you don't want it back. This is the extreme of gambling because they don't have money and they weren't able to stop themselves. So with the least amount, they keep wagering, and this doesn't stop with one person. They keep asking most of the people, and at some point they themselves will feel down and end up gambling.
Expecting the return of money from those who use it for gambling is very unlikely, therefore it is true that it is better for us to give it than to lend it or indeed do not expect to be able to return the money that has been lent. Apart from that, it is probably better not to lend it or not give it unless it is true. we are ready for the money lent to be lost or just think of it as lost. by borrowing money to gamble because they can't stop themselves from gambling, so even though they don't have money, they still gamble by doing everything they can to make money and gamble again, such as by borrowing, because they don't know whether the money will be returned or not. Indeed, if they borrow money, it is very unlikely that they will be able to return the money or improve the situation, but by borrowing money, of course their goal is to improve the situation, their good intentions are to want to improve the situation, but the actions they take are wrong, the actions they take it only makes their situation worse.
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June 03, 2024, 05:10:23 AM |
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Do you usually lend money to relatives, friends, etc.? Have you ever felt bad about it, done it unwillingly?
And when they are female friends, do you lend them?
I always ask the reason why they are asking for a loan, and if I do not receive a satisfactory answer or I think I am being lied to I refuse the loan, now if the amount I am asked is on the high side, unless this is because of a medical emergency I refuse the loan automatically. As you may imagine this makes me an unpopular loan source, since many people think that I have no business asking them about the reason for the loan, a completely crazy notion, but believe it or not, a great deal of people think like that.
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June 03, 2024, 05:27:46 AM |
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This is normal because even though we have money, if we lend money to those who want to gamble, it is unlikely that they will pay and repay it, I am not sure that they will be able to pay and pay off the loan debt that has been made, because I have experienced this several times. lending money to gamblers and having a hard time getting the money back. and in the future maybe I will refrain from lending money to those who like to gamble for whatever reason because they can lie with other reasons but in reality the purpose of lending money is to gamble. It's not wrong if we lie by saying we don't have money to those who borrow money to gamble because in my opinion lending money to gamblers is the wrong action because it is very unlikely that we can get our money back. what you do can make your friends pay and of course not everyone is like that, there are people who have borrowed money but even though we have defended ourselves, whether it's threats, they don't care at all, that's what's annoying. but threatening him in the way you did, in my opinion, is not a mistake, because we should be able to take our money back no matter what. They will comes back to us and asks for more money to borrow and that can makes them owe big money to us. We don't have to lend to them if we really knows that they will use the money for playing gambling. We don't wants them in a trouble and makes our relationships ruins and that is why we can say that we needs that money for the other things. They will difficult to repay the money to us because they can lose that money anytime and they will lie to us that they will pay the money immediately. We must say that we can't lend them the money and if they still insist to borrow the money from us, we can say anything to them, including lying to them. We just don't wants to gets a problem from them.
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Do you usually lend money to relatives, friends, etc.? Have you ever felt bad about it, done it unwillingly?
In our family we always instill an attitude of helping each other when one of the family members experiences financial problems, of course the money is used for positive things. Lending money to relatives who are related by blood is an obligation for us, the cycle will continue to spin without anyone wanting to harm anyone. However, if it is for a friend or not a family member, I will not take the risk, especially if the money is used for negative things. Friends or anyone who comes to borrow money will show a gentle nature so that we feel sorry for them, but when repayment is due there is always an excuse to delay payment. There is no reason for anyone to lend money to place bets, I always adhere to the principle, money lent to other people is not my money because I cannot use it when needed.
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June 03, 2024, 01:52:14 PM |
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Yes, that's the first thing to do to at least find out what the person is going to do with the money they have borrowed, but if they are someone else who really doesn't have a close relationship with you then I think it would be really It is very difficult to find out what their likes are and what habits they have, of course it requires a process to investigate and maybe this is quite complicated, meaning knowing other people's likes is when they are one of our friends or close friends who have a close relationship with us. Actually it's not a problem to lend money, but what is certain is that you have to really be able to make sure that they can pay on time or you ask them for a guarantee, and make sure they won't run away from responsibility, and that's what local banks do in every country. Of course, they ask for guarantees first to minimize unwanted possibilities.
Actually it would really be something personal on whatever the cause or reason on why someone do borrow up some money but if someone you do know or close to you then it wont really be that somewhat shameful would really be asking about on where you would be using it but even though it would be still that not right on asking something which is personal, but at the moment that you do know that your friend or that someone is a gambler and one day decided to borrow up some funds then it would be that safe to assume that he/she would definitely be making use of it on gambling again. So high probability that you wont really be paid up back at the time that he/she would reached his/her due. So if you dont like on having that kind of headache then better to reject such favor but of course you would be having those kind of tough situation specially if its your friend or someone which is close to you. Yes, it is true that there will definitely be bad feelings if we ask what he will do with the borrowed money if they are people who are not too close to us, and it really happens unless they are one of our close friends, and also yes as I said earlier that if they are one of our friends or when we find out that they like to be involved in gambling then obviously there will be an assumption in our minds that there is a possibility that the money will be used for gambling. Basically lending money to other people who really need it is a good action where we make it easier for others to solve their problems, but if it turns out that the money will be used for gambling then I think it is clear that the idea of borrowing money or lending money to gamble is an action that will only cause problems in the end, I'm not saying that all people don't have good responsibilities but believe me that when a gambler is given the opportunity to continue his habit of borrowing then one day they will do the same thing again.
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June 03, 2024, 02:14:42 PM |
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When someone requests that you lend money to gamble, take a stand not to give it. If someone is requesting that you provide $2, $5, or $10, then give them if you don't want it back. This is the extreme of gambling because they don't have money and they weren't able to stop themselves. So with the least amount, they keep wagering, and this doesn't stop with one person. They keep asking most of the people, and at some point they themselves will feel down and end up gambling.
I wish it's that easy to just ignore them but sometimes gamblers that asks for money can become a pests and they won't stop until they get what they want. The worst case scenario is that this gamblers will try to pull you down when they don't get what they wanted from you. I've seen it happen a lot of times but thankfully the moderators are fast enough to mute them whenever they beg for money. When it comes to friends, that's where the hardest part will come. It's not easy to refuse them especially if they have something against you. Blackmail, etc.. It's not a nice thing to happen to a person but it does sometimes. There are gamblers who would take advantage of their friends just so they could continue their addiction.
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June 03, 2024, 03:35:12 PM |
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I have this technique where when this happens to me and someone's asking to borrow some cash from me and they're not my friends or mother and father, I usually just go and make up some stupid stuff that would make them reconsider borrowing money from me, that technique is where I give them a boastful remark about how expensive the recent expenses that I have, I always make sure that it's at least believable but that I'm also making sure that I look arrogant in the situation, 10 times out of 10, it will always be the same thing for them, they don't get any money from me and they will stay away from me the next time that they do this stunt to me again.
Lying to those who wants to borrow you money will be okay as you don't wants to lend your money to them but you don't saying clearly. I also do that and usually, I will say to them that my mother needs that money and I will gives that money to my mother. At least, they believes what I am saying because they know my condition and will not trying to force me to gives that money. I will not gives that money if they will use it for playing gambling because I caught up my friend who borrow money from me but he used that money to gambling. He was lost at that time and said that he can't repay the money so I tells him that you must gives my back immediately. Otherwise, I will tells to his family and asks them to repay the money. Well, he is afraid with what I said and gives that money two days later. Usually, small lies are enough to be able to repel these pesky borrowers because you know that they're going to take notice of the hint that you don't want to lend them money, it will also work where you tell them when will they pay the loan and then tell them, direct to the point that it's going to be a difficult time for them if they don't make true of their promise, this too works like a charm especially for those people that are close to you to some level, the trust that's also a part of the loan is going to be broken, I'd still go with lying to avoid borrowerd, much easier for me and to them, no long winded speech about trust and loans.
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June 03, 2024, 03:49:18 PM |
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I wish it's that easy to just ignore them but sometimes gamblers that asks for money can become a pests and they won't stop until they get what they want. The worst case scenario is that this gamblers will try to pull you down when they don't get what they wanted from you. I've seen it happen a lot of times but thankfully the moderators are fast enough to mute them whenever they beg for money. When it comes to friends, that's where the hardest part will come. It's not easy to refuse them especially if they have something against you. Blackmail, etc.. It's not a nice thing to happen to a person but it does sometimes. There are gamblers who would take advantage of their friends just so they could continue their addiction.
I even came close to such an unpleasant step only once; I wanted to fraudulently borrow money from a friend to play, but I came to my senses in time and am grateful to myself that I did not do this. I realized how stupid and terrible this was, but I was attacked as if by an obsession with the game, some will understand me what it is when, no matter what, we want to win back. This was a long time ago, now I’m just sure that I won’t do anything like that, I’ve outgrown such situations and the game can’t control me now. Because my interest in the frantic excitement has faded and now I only play with a cool head and it’s impossible to piss me off, I’m above it. I don’t know how and why I overcame the passion in myself, probably my mathematical education helped me overcome this or the support of loved ones, but now I prefer to play only with my own money, because we can’t lose money that isn’t ours, it’s just stupid and unnecessary do it.
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June 03, 2024, 03:51:38 PM |
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Do not do something that it seems a retaliation to yourself. If you don't like to be the one to support these gamblers that are irresponsible and keeps on asking money for their continual gambling, do not help them with it and never patronize their addiction. You're right that they are a joke, they gamble and they ask money for their bankroll. That's inappropriate and that's why if someone wants to gamble, you have to allot budget and money for yourself. No one will fund you despite that you'd say that you're asking a loan and borrowing money, a responsible gambler won't do that.
Because they know that borrowing money to gamble is just the start of being an addicted gambler. And if you lose? what's the assurance that you're going to pay it? These gamblers know how to do it and disturb the peaceful living of their friends or relatives that they're going to ask money. If you are the one who's start to think of doing this, you have to rethink. Please do not cause any trouble to the other people whether they are gamblers too, because from the start it should be your money that you should gamble. And if you can't do that, spend spare money as you gamble so that if you lose then it won't be painful and you'll just stop then because you have no obligation to recover and you have no borrowed money to pay for later.
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June 03, 2024, 04:02:21 PM |
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I wish it's that easy to just ignore them but sometimes gamblers that asks for money can become a pests and they won't stop until they get what they want. The worst case scenario is that this gamblers will try to pull you down when they don't get what they wanted from you. I've seen it happen a lot of times but thankfully the moderators are fast enough to mute them whenever they beg for money. When it comes to friends, that's where the hardest part will come. It's not easy to refuse them especially if they have something against you. Blackmail, etc.. It's not a nice thing to happen to a person but it does sometimes. There are gamblers who would take advantage of their friends just so they could continue their addiction.
It's very hard to ignore a friend that claims to need our financial help. But, they is always a way of finding out if they'll be using the money for gambling purposes. I've never been bothered of a friend who gambles, still, the moment I discover that the person is addicted. It'll make no sense giving out the money to the player. This will help both of us in a meaningful way. In future when he flashes back and remember I didn't offer such help, he would be glad I did. At the early stage he could be sad. Although it's for his good, but he'd feel that his needs weren't met and his friend, me, didn't do anything about it. Such players also have multiple things to say regarding their need for money. And if the lender is not careful, he'd give out a huge sum of money. That would, to me, seem like a blunder. Because the money will be lost and the player will meet his next friend for help. I think holding the person down, in denial, when he gets to us, will delay his decisions of having to meet more people. When we refuse, he would assume others will deny him of such help.
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hyudien
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June 04, 2024, 01:47:05 AM |
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This is normal because even though we have money, if we lend money to those who want to gamble, it is unlikely that they will pay and repay it, I am not sure that they will be able to pay and pay off the loan debt that has been made, because I have experienced this several times. lending money to gamblers and having a hard time getting the money back. and in the future maybe I will refrain from lending money to those who like to gamble for whatever reason because they can lie with other reasons but in reality the purpose of lending money is to gamble. It's not wrong if we lie by saying we don't have money to those who borrow money to gamble because in my opinion lending money to gamblers is the wrong action because it is very unlikely that we can get our money back. what you do can make your friends pay and of course not everyone is like that, there are people who have borrowed money but even though we have defended ourselves, whether it's threats, they don't care at all, that's what's annoying. but threatening him in the way you did, in my opinion, is not a mistake, because we should be able to take our money back no matter what.
They will comes back to us and asks for more money to borrow and that can makes them owe big money to us. We don't have to lend to them if we really knows that they will use the money for playing gambling. We don't wants them in a trouble and makes our relationships ruins and that is why we can say that we needs that money for the other things. They will difficult to repay the money to us because they can lose that money anytime and they will lie to us that they will pay the money immediately. We must say that we can't lend them the money and if they still insist to borrow the money from us, we can say anything to them, including lying to them. We just don't wants to gets a problem from them. yes, that's right, there is no obligation for us to lend money to them if the aim is to use it for gambling, although basically we have to help each other but we have to be able to see in what way we will help other people, if it's with something that's really good it's not Even if there is a problem, he can help financially as long as it is something that is truly positive and clear. Moreover, what you say is true, lending money to those who like to gamble will usually only worsen their relationship with each other, where it is unlikely that the borrower will be able to return the money they borrow. Of course, it is not easy for gambling addicts to return money, because even if they have money worth half the loan, they will probably think of doubling it on gambling where the end result is predictable, namely losing their money again. To avoid people like that, maybe it's not a problem for us to lie and say we don't have money or that we do have money but can't use it for anything else. Rather than having problems in the future, it is better to prevent it from the start, unless we can assume that the money lent is lost because it is unlikely that they will be able to return the money they have borrowed.
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maydna
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June 04, 2024, 06:05:46 AM |
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Usually, small lies are enough to be able to repel these pesky borrowers because you know that they're going to take notice of the hint that you don't want to lend them money, it will also work where you tell them when will they pay the loan and then tell them, direct to the point that it's going to be a difficult time for them if they don't make true of their promise, this too works like a charm especially for those people that are close to you to some level, the trust that's also a part of the loan is going to be broken, I'd still go with lying to avoid borrowerd, much easier for me and to them, no long winded speech about trust and loans. Small lies can helps us to avoids people who wants to borrow money from us because they will not thinks that we lies to them. But for those who knows us better will thinks that we lies to them. We just don't wants to see they playing gambling, especially if we knows that they can't control themselves better and only lose that money and makes them difficult to repay the money. They should know that we don't wants to lend our money to them and will not force us doing that. They can search for the other people who wants to lend and we guess that they can gets it easily so they can do many things with that money. It is difficult to lend the money to people who can't keeps their promises to repay the money. Many people ruins their relationship doing this simple matter so we don't wants to get that experience. yes, that's right, there is no obligation for us to lend money to them if the aim is to use it for gambling, although basically we have to help each other but we have to be able to see in what way we will help other people, if it's with something that's really good it's not Even if there is a problem, he can help financially as long as it is something that is truly positive and clear. Moreover, what you say is true, lending money to those who like to gamble will usually only worsen their relationship with each other, where it is unlikely that the borrower will be able to return the money they borrow. Of course, it is not easy for gambling addicts to return money, because even if they have money worth half the loan, they will probably think of doubling it on gambling where the end result is predictable, namely losing their money again. To avoid people like that, maybe it's not a problem for us to lie and say we don't have money or that we do have money but can't use it for anything else. Rather than having problems in the future, it is better to prevent it from the start, unless we can assume that the money lent is lost because it is unlikely that they will be able to return the money they have borrowed.
We should know who we can lend our money and what their reason to borrow our money because many people can lie their reason borrows our money. We don't know if those people who wants to borrow our money will used that money to playing gambling or to fills their daily needs. But we knows and can guess what they will to do with that money because we really know that person so we can consider not to lend that money. If they wants to used that borrow money to fills their daily needs, we will lend them without asking when they can repay the money because they will gives that money by themselves and they really thank you to us because we helps them. But those who wants to use that money for playing gambling will makes many reasons to us so we are not suspicious about their reason.
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If you ever want to lend someone your money that you are not familiar with then you should be probably know what he or she is into so that you don't go wasting your money by giving it to the fellow because everyone has their use if money and Gambling is the worse of all, borrowing money to a gambler is just like dashing out your money for free.
Of course for me it is not as easy as just borrowing money from other people, especially people I don't know because it is very risky if it is really done and even though I lend money to people I already know, I will also think carefully first whether he will really return the money on time according to the agreement because if he violates it, it will definitely be difficult for us to collect it. And I agree with you if we know what habits he does every day, for example he likes to gamble and we are willing to lend him money, it is the same as we will eat the fruit of the simalakama or bear the bitterness of the stupidity we have done.
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