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May 29, 2024, 11:16:47 AM
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Did you know that gambling addiction is considered on par with drug addiction? And, of course, a person does not immediately become a drug addict. He goes through several stages to become a dependent, that is, a sick person. In the same way, the player starts the game simply with the desire to play and to try; he does not bet all his money on the first game. Everything happens over time, and it is different for everyone. Therefore, it is believed that if a person does not know how to control his emotions, he will not be able to stop in time and will lose until his source runs out. As for greed, it is a vice. You know, a greedy person assesses the situation more soberly. Seeing his losses, he will definitely at some point understand that he cannot constantly lose; he will simply feel sorry for throwing money away. In addition, it is difficult for a greedy person to risk his money.
Same time, greediness causes additions, when a gambler loose money, only greed makes the gambler to chase his loses, and while the gambler is chasing his loses there is no guarantee for him to win back the money he has lost. From my experience with gamble, I say that gamble is a gamble of luck and if a gambler lost his bets, it means that the gambler is not lucky, and no one can force it. That means while a gambler is chasing his or her losses it's either he/she looses more or get addicted at the end.

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May 29, 2024, 11:58:24 AM
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Did you know that gambling addiction is considered on par with drug addiction? And, of course, a person does not immediately become a drug addict.
I was an addict before but I am not not into drug at all while I do not also smoke. Only what I do is alcohol and not all the time. I have not gone to a bar before to drink to stupor because I lose money but I always felt depressed after losing. I think more research should be done if what you said is true.

There are some people that are into drugs and gambling separately but just that losing in gambling can make them take drug unnecessarily but I do not think gambling should be connected to drug but one enhancing another.  In short what I am saying is that addiction in something does not mean you are addicted into another thing and it does not also mean that addicted to something makes the person to get addicted to another thing. If the research is true, it is a wrong research.

I have a friend that smokes like ones in a month. He may not smoke in many months sometimes. I do not see him as a smoker. He is not into drug. He likes alcohol just like me. There was a time he was addicted for like 1 year. Only what I noticed about him is depression. If he is not talking and not that happy, I know likely he has lost money in gambling again.

I have some friends that are into xrxxs and smoking but not gambling at all.

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You misunderstood me somewhat. I'm not saying that drugs and gambling have to go together. However, the degree of dependence that a drug addict experiences is equivalent to the same sensations when a player needs a game. From here, it was also said that curing gambling addiction is just as difficult as drug addiction. If you've been a drug addict, no one knows better than you the feeling of withdrawal or the need for drugs when you don't have them.

However, please accept my respect if you have made it through.

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May 29, 2024, 12:09:45 PM
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The most common type of gambling addiction is the one with greediness. That is why the addicted person will be losing huge amount of money to the extent they may not have money again but start to borrow.

But addiction can also be that the gambler is not really wasting money on gambling but gambling is really taking his time. But this type of addiction is mostly not possible.

Most addicted gamblers are greedy.
I think we have to accept the reality that once we try gambling, it is possible to fall into these situations. And the best thing we can do is to control ourselves as much as possible. Yes, maybe for now we are good but we are not sure if we can keep it like this or if it change it along the way as we continue gambling.

Overall, it really depends on how we discipline ourselves in gambling because no benefits to get if we have these things addiction and greediness as it brings us down financially and pollutes our minds.

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May 29, 2024, 12:15:31 PM
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why do I have to choose both, I don't want to be greedy or addicted to gambling because both only bring disaster, greed will not only make a gambler lose, but greed will destroy a gambler's life

a greedy person will never be satisfied with whatever he achieves and especially when it comes to gambling, he just wants to get money quickly and doesn't care about his surroundings, as well as gambling addiction, those who are addicted won't care about their surroundings, so that's what makes me neither of them

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May 29, 2024, 12:22:52 PM
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Greed and addiction are two close topics, that is, those who are greedy will become addicted to that work. A gambler becomes addicted to gambling and because of that addiction he bets on gambling due to excessive greed. Yes but a professional gambler is involved in gambling due to addiction but he does not have excessive greed i.e. he has the ability to control his greed. A greedy person can never satisfy himself rather he gradually becomes bankrupt and mentally disturbed due to his greed. But if an addict isn't greedy, his addict can't do as much harm as the harm he covets.

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May 29, 2024, 01:04:59 PM
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Both greed and addiction are disastrous. Although being greedy is preferable acceptable than being addicted to gambling, being the worst case someone can find him or herself in, because of those who find themselves addicted have lost total control of their gambling habits that it controls their finances to be gambling always without putting a stop to it. While in other hand, someone being greedy to gambling, their aim is to earn more while they end up losing. Their experience of losing money will make them end their gambling for the day until the next time they choose to gamble again.



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May 29, 2024, 01:09:11 PM
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Well, I believe that both Greediness and Gambling Addiction make our lives terrible. I was thinking about which one of the two reasons causes more disastrous in our life both in terms of mental health and finances.


Both will harm your lives if not controlled, I was addicted to gambling, and part of this behavior is greediness I was so greedy to win that I always forgot that the house had the edge and my chances were getting low the longer I played.

Greediness correlates to gambling addiction you will always feel the greediness especially when you're winning. It is greediness that takes your emotions when chasing your losses, both are harmful to your mental health and finances and we should do everything to control these two if we want to have positive thinking.

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May 29, 2024, 01:20:50 PM
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Well, I believe that both Greediness and Gambling Addiction make our lives terrible. I was thinking about which one of the two reasons causes more disastrous in our life both in terms of mental health and finances.
it is obviously gambling addiction, if you have a gambling addiction, it means that you are dependent on it, it doesn't matter if you win or lose, you'll come back again and again to satisfy your urge which seems to never end, it could and will consume your whole life if it is never treated. gambling addiction doesn't just affect you mentally and financially, it also affects the relationship you have to the people around you, especially the ones closest to you.

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May 29, 2024, 01:50:57 PM
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Both are disastrous, yeah. Gambling addiction out weighs Greediness, why? When one is addicted, he aims to use any means possible to satisfy his urge for gambling and often times addicted gamblers are the greedy ones because they never get satisfy with winnings them lookout for more wins,methods and just want to be in casinos. It affect them emotionally and financially which causes more harm than good. When it comes to greediness it a state were a gambler demands more win, which for me can be controlled and if use properly can edge us in gambling is part of every man.
I prefer to be greedy than Addicted, (new trend by OP,lol.)
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May 29, 2024, 02:07:12 PM
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This is all I can tell you, op, there is no addict who had an addiction that greediness did not lead to the gambler himself. Remember what I am saying? That's why a gambler always has greed in them; it drives them to always think that they will get lucky when they get to gamble in the casino.

It's very rare that people gamble just for fun, because even though they're just having fun, they still think about winning or getting the jackpot, although the only difference is that it's okay even if they lose because they control the limits of their gambling. .



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May 29, 2024, 02:13:59 PM
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In my opinion, greed and addiction have a very close relationship in the negative side of gambling, namely that they both have a bad side in life because greed can lead to an addictive attitude and addiction can cause a lot of money to be lost because of gambling too often and cannot be controlled.
Therefore, if a person has both attitudes then it is certain that his life will have many problems and his life will suffer even more.

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May 29, 2024, 02:25:17 PM
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I think this one is easy. Greediness is more disastrous, as it spreads not only on gambling. That is a part of character, the way person lives. That is something that is formed by years, and it can be fixed in few years. For gambling addictions there are rehabs. People around can help to fight it. But it is a suicide mission to turn greedy person into generous. Btw, I really doubt that greedy person would even gamble. He might test gambling once, but he will suffer from every loss.

Although you said the opposite of the arguments of many other users, it also makes sense, although it doesn't mean that others are necessarily wrong.

I would like to add that being greedy may be a psychological trait, while being an addict not; but other traits like impulsiveness, obsession etc. can lead to addiction, the same as a well oriented greediness can lead to him being a good manager. Our traits don't define us, they set a predisposition, but everyone can ultimately make good or bad decisions no matter their personality.

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May 29, 2024, 02:33:02 PM
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However, both can possibly happen in our lives when we can't control our gambling habit anymore. I prefer not the two but in this situation, I prefer to be just addicted rather than be greedy

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I think what you are trying to say is that it will be better to be an addicted gambler than to be a greedy gambler. I also share the same position with you because someone can be addicted to gambling and it will not have a negative effect on his finances but a greedy gambler can gravely hurt his accounts. Now these two negative behavior work together in some cases. Most times gambling addicts are also greedy. They are going to the casino everyday (addiction) because they want to win big (greed).

Greed and addiction can affect our mental health adversely. Anyone who sold a property or took a loan to gamble and lost can suffer mental problems. And both greed and addiction can lead to uncontrollable gambling. But just as Kelvinid has told us, it is better not to be addicted and not to be greedy, both of them are destructive.

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May 29, 2024, 02:41:43 PM
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There is nothing wrong with what the OP said, but maybe I will complement his idea that actually if we talk about gambling then addiction and greed go hand in hand or go hand in hand at the same time, and I would say that the name addiction is where when someone cannot escape from the activity and always wants to gamble because they want a situation where a dopamine explosion occurs in the brain that makes them feel very happy especially in the context of getting a win, and I will discuss again about greed which is where a gambler is unable to stop at the right time especially when they win, they have very high confidence and expectations so they always think that the winning situation is a good situation to take advantage of to get a bigger amount of winnings. So it means that addiction is a situation that makes it difficult for a person to resist the urge not to gamble and greed is something that triggers various excessive actions, meaning that these two things go together and are very bad indeed and can destroy our lives.

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May 29, 2024, 03:01:12 PM
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Well, I believe that both Greediness and Gambling Addiction make our lives terrible. I was thinking about which one of the two reasons causes more disastrous in our life both in terms of mental health and finances.

It would be the base of experience or just purely an opinion but for me, Greediness is something that would really make us cripple.
"I want to bet more and more in order to win more. I will sell my properties so I can bet huge. " Greediness mindset keeps on the winning side, not satisfaction.

But addiction is a little disastrous, why? Because they can be satisfied with betting a small amount, at least they can gamble.

However, both can possibly happen in our lives when we can't control our gambling habit anymore. I prefer not the two but in this situation, I prefer to be just addicted rather than be greedy

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I think the both work together cause that's what pushes them to a non-stop Gambling of no wins,Is greediness that birth addiction in a gambler's life and makes him crave for something bigger not knowing it requires Patience and it's what makes it more disastrous..
An addicted gamblers can tend to slow down on his habits provided he has made so much losses but a greedy addicted gamblers will do the reverse.
So for me I think both shouldn't be found in a gambler cause they are more disastrous than anything.
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Greedy gambler, a gambler that always like to double their money and achieve as much as he can, he like to turn $1 to $1K, then $1K to $1M, then $1M to $1B and so on.

Gambling addict, a gambler that really like to gamble all the time and can't be stopped.

I don't see anything different, both of them likes to spend most of their time to gamble, when it comes to money, it's infinite aka no limit. So, both greedy gambler and gambling addict will never stop to gamble.



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May 29, 2024, 03:14:17 PM
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Well, I believe that both Greediness and Gambling Addiction make our lives terrible. I was thinking about which one of the two reasons causes more disastrous in our life both in terms of mental health and finances.

It would be the base of experience or just purely an opinion but for me, Greediness is something that would really make us cripple.
"I want to bet more and more in order to win more. I will sell my properties so I can bet huge. " Greediness mindset keeps on the winning side, not satisfaction.

But addiction is a little disastrous, why? Because they can be satisfied with betting a small amount, at least they can gamble.

However, both can possibly happen in our lives when we can't control our gambling habit anymore. I prefer not the two but in this situation, I prefer to be just addicted rather than be greedy

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the difference between greed and addiction is a big difference, greed is not a disease, while gambling addiction is a very serious disease that has been responsible for destroying many people

Greed (or avarice) is an insatiable desire for material gain (be it food, money, land, or animate/inanimate possessions) or social value, such as status, or power. Greed has been identified as undesirable throughout known human history because it creates behavior-conflict between personal and social goals.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greed


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- People with a gambling addiction can't control their urge to gamble, even if they are losing a lot of money.

- If you are addicted to gambling, the consequences can include financial losses, bankruptcy, losing a job, homelessness and the breakdown of personal relationships.

- If someone you know has a problem with gambling, you may notice financial problems, relationship difficulties or symptoms of anxiety and/or depression.

- If you have a problem with gambling, you may feel compelled to gamble when you feel anxious or depressed, and you may find it difficult to stop.

- Certain types of psychological therapy, for example, cognitive behaviour therapy (CBT), may help overcome gambling addiction.


source: https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/gambling-addiction

As you can see, greedy people are unlikely to sell all their goods or lose all their salary because of gambling, they think well, they may have the desire to earn a lot quickly, but they can control themselves, they know when to stop gambling, that's why we will hardly hear news that many people are selling their goods to gamble due to greed and that these greedy people need help from a doctor, how many times have you heard people saying that they have a relative who is sick with greed and that they Did they take you to treatment? I highly doubt you've ever heard anyone say this.

But if I ask you how many times have you heard someone in your family or neighbor talk about someone being addicted to something and losing everything they had because of the addiction? I believe you will tell me what you have already heard, because addiction is a disease that is destroying many people. Here in my country, for example, I have seen many people addicted to alcohol, and it is normal for me to see young people drinking alcohol until they are unable to walk and end up sleeping on the street.

addiction is something that destroys people's lives

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May 29, 2024, 03:21:23 PM
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why do I have to choose both, I don't want to be greedy or addicted to gambling because both only bring disaster, greed will not only make a gambler lose, but greed will destroy a gambler's life

a greedy person will never be satisfied with whatever he achieves and especially when it comes to gambling, he just wants to get money quickly and doesn't care about his surroundings, as well as gambling addiction, those who are addicted won't care about their surroundings, so that's what makes me neither of them
I agree with you, both of these things are very detrimental to ourselves and those who gamble with their greed will of course find it very difficult for them to win on the bets they play because they will never be satisfied with what they have got.
For some people who have experienced an addiction to gambling, of course it will be very difficult for them to be able to resist their desire to gamble even though they do not have the funds they have to gamble, but they will look for various ways to be able to gamble and if what they do is cheating. other people or taking out a loan, of course this will be a problem for them if they cannot pay it off.

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It's not greed that can lead someone to become addicted to gambling, I once had a friend who spent his time gambling, then I asked him what made him want to continue gambling all the time, even though he should have focused on making money and working, not just selling all his assets. It's also his family's property to gamble, one day all his assets will run out, he just told me that he had lost a lot of money in gambling so he wanted to recover the losses he had lost previously. so he feels frustrated pursuing that because he has become an addict.

But one time he won big and got the Jackpot, in my opinion that was enough to recover all his losses, but what he did was he actually gambled again and continued playing, so that in the end he lost all his winnings again and then regretted it, even though he He really wanted to recover his losses, he should have stopped when he won big, but because of his greed to win even bigger, he became out of control, in the end he is bankrupt now and has almost lost all his money and assets, I haven't seen him again after that he disappeared like that. Even the house has been occupied by new residents. The important lesson from all of this is never gamble seriously, let alone make money there because it's not the right place.  Grin

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May 29, 2024, 03:58:55 PM
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Like in my previous post that I said gambling addiction is very dangerous so if you ask me Greediness or Addiction -which one is more disastrous? I would say addiction is more dangerous than a greediness but of course both of them are very danger. Because greediness can't also lead to addiction if you can't control it

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