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June 14, 2024, 07:38:29 PM
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I think that this is still happening to other gamblers, and it is sad  that discipline is not applied to gambling. In fact, self-discipline is not difficult to do; it's just that because of greed and addiction, they don't do it, so the result is no wonder they lose in the end.

I hope other gamblers see this so they don't have to go through the same bad experiences as others, so I really agree with what you are saying.
Don't stay along without having good time to execute goals from the system. Experience have taught us alot more and we become volatile and vulnerable if we allow our past to haunt us, rather we fight and present ourselves to the new day and results. Gambling doesn't inculcate discipline in the minds of gamblers, there's a whole lot happening in the space and we should be careful when dealing with the space.

Whether gambling instigate discipline to gamblers is a personal problem. A majority of gamblers for sure are truly not learning discipline in gambling, due to their individual gambling motives. Players who face losses in gambling actually undergo phases of personal encounters regarding their mode of thinking. In a way, high number of responsible players actually learn few or more disciplines. Out of the people who don't follow up nice gambling habits, a few of them were not educated of gambling. However, greediness leads to addiction. There are cohorts and nothing would separate a greedy player from gambling addiction.

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June 14, 2024, 07:53:59 PM
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They both can result in losing money. Whichever a person has and it comes to a point that he loses everything, it's all disaster.  But addiction is harder to fight. Addicts will just keep depositing even if the money is intended for something else and the domino effect happens quickly when the person can't pay the bills.

You are right, we should offer help to people who are addict or find it hard for them to quit gambling even when they tried so hard to stop.

That is why it's good and advisable for people to gamble responsibly because it can cause a lot of disastrous things in their lives such depression, frustration and can even affect their mental health if care is not taken. So let's try and gamble on what we can afford to lose and stop when we know we are not winning again.

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June 14, 2024, 08:32:25 PM
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They both can result in losing money. Whichever a person has and it comes to a point that he loses everything, it's all disaster.  But addiction is harder to fight. Addicts will just keep depositing even if the money is intended for something else and the domino effect happens quickly when the person can't pay the bills.

You are right, we should offer help to people who are addict or find it hard for them to quit gambling even when they tried so hard to stop.

That is why it's good and advisable for people to gamble responsibly because it can cause a lot of disastrous things in their lives such depression, frustration and can even affect their mental health if care is not taken. So let's try and gamble on what we can afford to lose and stop when we know we are not winning again.

It is more easier to talk someone out of addiction when they are just beginning to experience some of the symptoms, than when they are already addicted. Yeah most persons wouldn't want to receive any advice from any person because they might think they are doing just fine, or they might be too proud to admit that they can make mistakes along the way. Gambling has a way of destroying your mental health if you fall into addiction and at that stage, the addited gambler might become more arrogant, not wanting to take advice or admit that what they are doing is actually wrong. Separating greediness from addiction sounds a bit off, as they both work hand in hand. All addicted gamblers are greedy, and that's the major read n they are addicted.

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June 14, 2024, 08:45:46 PM
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You are right, we should offer help to people who are addict or find it hard for them to quit gambling even when they tried so hard to stop.
It’s always difficult to advise addicted gamblers to stop gambling, most of them will never listen, and after talking to some of them, they will still end up going back to gambling. Some will start arguments that they are not addicted to gambling, and no matter what you tell them, they will deny their addiction. The only time I do advise an addicted gambler is when the person admits about his addiction and the person is really ready to stop gambling and can’t do it on his own. Then I will be able to guide and support the person in some ways that I can.

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June 14, 2024, 08:55:57 PM
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Well,I think the more disastrous one here is addiction.If someone is greedy,it only means he wants more,but if he doesn't have the means to get it,he will forget it,but in addiction,there is nothing you can do about it, because addiction goes straight to stay in your blood and becomes your behavior.Once you are addicted to something,whether it's good or bad,you will always want to be doing that particular thing ,and you will find it difficult to stop,and then it turns to be your behavior.Imagine someone having a gambling behavior,that means he cannot survive without it,so even if addiction and greed work hand in hand,I still prefer greed to addiction.

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June 14, 2024, 09:44:53 PM
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Well,I think the more disastrous one here is addiction.If someone is greedy,it only means he wants more,but if he doesn't have the means to get it,he will forget it,but in addiction,there is nothing you can do about it, because addiction goes straight to stay in your blood and becomes your behavior.Once you are addicted to something,whether it's good or bad,you will always want to be doing that particular thing ,and you will find it difficult to stop,and then it turns to be your behavior.Imagine someone having a gambling behavior,that means he cannot survive without it,so even if addiction and greed work hand in hand,I still prefer greed to addiction.

Exactly addiction not something one can easily stop , most gambler downfall was due to addiction because some gamblers can't stay without gambling, and in gambling either one win or lose , and most time the chances of losing is higher expecially as an irresponsible gambler. And most addicted gambler are usually irresponsible gamblers. So yeah I think addiction is more disastrous than greed but still both are bad when it comes to gambling

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June 14, 2024, 10:01:07 PM
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Exactly addiction not something one can easily stop , most gambler downfall was due to addiction because some gamblers can't stay without gambling, and in gambling either one win or lose , and most time the chances of losing is higher expecially as an irresponsible gambler. And most addicted gambler are usually irresponsible gamblers. So yeah I think addiction is more disastrous than greed but still both are bad when it comes to gambling
Addiction and greediness walk side by side, but if we have to say which one is the most harmful, I would say it's addiction, because it implies a more compulsive and disastrous behavior from the individual, what means he acts without thinking rationally, logically and thinking on the consequences of his acts. Greediness solely, on the other hand, might mean the individual is avid for profits and wealth in an extreme manner, although it doesn't imply he acts compulsively for that reason.

Actually, he may act rationally and logically in order to achieve his greedy goals, being a successful businessman, entrepreneur, investor and so on... Greediness doesn't necessarily prejudice someone's skill to make money, while addiction does.

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June 14, 2024, 10:09:15 PM
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Exactly addiction not something one can easily stop , most gambler downfall was due to addiction because some gamblers can't stay without gambling, and in gambling either one win or lose , and most time the chances of losing is higher expecially as an irresponsible gambler. And most addicted gambler are usually irresponsible gamblers. So yeah I think addiction is more disastrous than greed but still both are bad when it comes to gambling
Addiction and greediness walk side by side, but if we have to say which one is the most harmful, I would say it's addiction, because it implies a more compulsive and disastrous behavior from the individual, what means he acts without thinking rationally, logically and thinking on the consequences of his acts. Greediness solely, on the other hand, might mean the individual is avid for profits and wealth in an extreme manner, although it doesn't imply he acts compulsively for that reason.

Actually, he may act rationally and logically in order to achieve his greedy goals, being a successful businessman, entrepreneur, investor and so on... Greediness doesn't necessarily prejudice someone's skill to make money, while addiction does.

I would also go with addiction as the more disastrous one. Because most addicted gamblers won't stop even if they have no more funds to spare in their gambling activities. So they resort to taking loans and other worst scenarios such as stealing. Whereas, with greediness, the gambler may still have the awareness of stopping his habit. Sometimes he just wants to continue his games despite of winnings.

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June 15, 2024, 12:10:55 AM
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Addiction and greediness walk side by side, but if we have to say which one is the most harmful, I would say it's addiction, because it implies a more compulsive and disastrous behavior from the individual, what means he acts without thinking rationally, logically and thinking on the consequences of his acts. Greediness solely, on the other hand, might mean the individual is avid for profits and wealth in an extreme manner, although it doesn't imply he acts compulsively for that reason.

Actually, he may act rationally and logically in order to achieve his greedy goals, being a successful businessman, entrepreneur, investor and so on... Greediness doesn't necessarily prejudice someone's skill to make money, while addiction does.

I would also go with addiction as the more disastrous one. Because most addicted gamblers won't stop even if they have no more funds to spare in their gambling activities. So they resort to taking loans and other worst scenarios such as stealing. Whereas, with greediness, the gambler may still have the awareness of stopping his habit. Sometimes he just wants to continue his games despite of winnings.

Greed is a trait and addiction is a cycle, meaning that in this case I cannot separate greed from addiction, because greed is something that can trigger addiction, meaning that these two things will go hand in hand where greed is the initial trigger, And if we talk about addiction then yes of course that is a bad cycle or zone that can cause a variety of much worse impacts that we never thought before, these significant impacts occur as a result of a gambler who makes various actions and decisions that are really aggressive, one of which is like what you said that they are even desperate to justify all means just so they can get involved in gambling.

Whatever they will do, especially borrowing money from anyone with various reasons based on lies so that others believe and give loans that they can even do other worse things like what you said, namely stealing or robbing or cheating others. And as I said above that greed is still a trait that humans have and what is called a trait is a habit that they often do, meaning that although awareness is still a possible thing to achieve but I think it is very unlikely when it has become a habit.

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June 15, 2024, 03:02:00 PM
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Greediness is more bad than any other type of addition because when you are greedy you will lose more but when you are addicted to it, you can sell your valuable when you are greeting because you want to make the whole money that is not how it's supposed to be so the only thing, immediately you start being greedy greetings can turn you to a poor man and you will lose more than what you can even afford to my even cause your life that is  why is not good to be a greedy gambler because the amount you are gambling with is unfair to your income



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June 15, 2024, 03:07:24 PM
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Greediness can leads to addictions and the two are not good to have as a gambler, because one bad thing will always lead to another and we have to make sure we take care of how we are gambling in other for us not to portray a different image other than the one we intended to have with gambling, one bad thing leads to another and so on, before we then realized, it has turned into a big challenge for us to cope with from how we gambles.

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June 15, 2024, 03:12:58 PM
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I think they intertwined with one another because gambling addiction can be caused by greediness. And greediness can be caused by gambling addiction. It's like vice versa in a way that one wouldn't exist without the other. It's mostly about how you are going to be more into if it you let it. They are equally disastrous to me because it can start both ways.

Maybe a question of what can cause eviler? Or something to that extent.

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June 15, 2024, 04:01:00 PM
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Greediness is more bad than any other type of addition because when you are greedy you will lose more but when you are addicted to it, you can sell your valuable when you are greeting because you want to make the whole money that is not how it's supposed to be so the only thing, immediately you start being greedy greetings can turn you to a poor man and you will lose more than what you can even afford to my even cause your life that is  why is not good to be a greedy gambler because the amount you are gambling with is unfair to your income
By gambling greedily, it will be very unlikely that they will be able to win from the bets they play, because they will always hope to get a bigger win even though they have succeeded in getting a win from the bets they played and only realize it after they have lost everything. winning funds that they have obtained and for some people who have experienced addiction, of course this is because they are too greedy in gambling so they become addicted to gambling and both of these things destroy a person both in their financial condition and also in their life.

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I think they intertwined with one another because gambling addiction can be caused by greediness. And greediness can be caused by gambling addiction. It's like vice versa in a way that one wouldn't exist without the other. It's mostly about how you are going to be more into if it you let it. They are equally disastrous to me because it can start both ways.

I think they are interchangeably since it’s impossible for gambling addicted person to reach the addicted level without being greedy since greediness is the driving factor of addiction.

I think it’s more on a phase which start from greediness that turns into addiction. You will never become addicted to something without being greedy.

But the lesser evil will be greediness since this can be for short term only that go on after rhe game while addiction is continuous problem even after the game.

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June 15, 2024, 04:45:42 PM
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You are right, we should offer help to people who are addict or find it hard for them to quit gambling even when they tried so hard to stop.
It’s always difficult to advise addicted gamblers to stop gambling, most of them will never listen, and after talking to some of them, they will still end up going back to gambling. Some will start arguments that they are not addicted to gambling, and no matter what you tell them, they will deny their addiction. The only time I do advise an addicted gambler is when the person admits about his addiction and the person is really ready to stop gambling and can’t do it on his own. Then I will be able to guide and support the person in some ways that I can.
The worst of all addiction is the one that the gambler does not know that he is addicted and when you are telling him, he does not ac ept with you that he is addicted. This kind of gambler will not be able to free himself from addiction, because he does not care to reflect on his gambling life if he is doing it the right way or not.

If a gambler knows that he is addicted and accept it, he will be able to overcome his addiction at his own will. Greed is a vice that leads to addiction and if you bring your greedy nature into gambling, before you will know it, you will be addicted. It is better that you control your greed before it will lead you to addiction.

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June 15, 2024, 04:50:59 PM
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Greediness can leads to addictions and the two are not good to have as a gambler, because one bad thing will always lead to another and we have to make sure we take care of how we are gambling in other for us not to portray a different image other than the one we intended to have with gambling, one bad thing leads to another and so on, before we then realized, it has turned into a big challenge for us to cope with from how we gambles.
Yes, indeed the two are connected, I often see when someone is addicted to gambling and he continues to gamble every day just to recover his losses which he may have lost quite a lot so he has to get them back, but I have seen him win the jackpot and win big it seems that was more than enough to return the money he had lost and could recover everything, but what I saw next, he actually continued playing and told me that it was his lucky day and he was sure he could win even bigger.

This greed also made his addiction worse, in the end he lost again and all his winnings were gone, he went to borrow money from everyone but no one lent it, since then he became increasingly out of control doing anything to get money and finance his gambling. , he was even willing to wash other people's vehicles just to get a little money so he could gamble, his family also didn't care what happened to him, this will be an important lesson for me too that gambling should never be the pursuit of things that we don't need to pursue in gambling. just play and enjoy.

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June 15, 2024, 05:05:16 PM
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The worst of all addiction is the one that the gambler does not know that he is addicted and when you are telling him, he does not ac ept with you that he is addicted. This kind of gambler will not be able to free himself from addiction, because he does not care to reflect on his gambling life if he is doing it the right way or not.

If a gambler knows that he is addicted and accept it, he will be able to overcome his addiction at his own will. Greed is a vice that leads to addiction and if you bring your greedy nature into gambling, before you will know it, you will be addicted. It is better that you control your greed before it will lead you to addiction.
I am sure that most gamblers will not know that they are actually addicted to gambling. The initial indication is how often you gamble. and this could lead to financial disruption due to increasingly high levels of gambling activity.
maybe the way they realize it is to experience the worst incident of gambling that gamblers do and it takes a hit to fix everything. any form of addiction always has a negative impact. and to completely get rid of gambling addiction is very difficult, even though it can be done.

greed and addiction, I think they are all part of gambling. neither is particularly bad, but gamblers may not realize they are doing both.

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June 15, 2024, 05:09:18 PM
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Well,I think the more disastrous one here is addiction.If someone is greedy,it only means he wants more,but if he doesn't have the means to get it,he will forget it,but in addiction,there is nothing you can do about it, because addiction goes straight to stay in your blood and becomes your behavior.Once you are addicted to something,whether it's good or bad,you will always want to be doing that particular thing ,and you will find it difficult to stop,and then it turns to be your behavior.Imagine someone having a gambling behavior,that means he cannot survive without it,so even if addiction and greed work hand in hand,I still prefer greed to addiction.
In my opinion, both will always have a bad impact on every gambler, if someone has won in a gambling game, of course instinct or greed will always appear in that person, always wanting bigger profits than before. Indeed, the two go hand in hand and cannot be separated in gambling games. In my opinion, the main thing in this case that brings disaster is greed. This greedy nature can make someone very addicted to playing, which can make that person spend much more money than before.

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I am sure that most gamblers will not know that they are actually addicted to gambling. The initial indication is how often you gamble. and this could lead to financial disruption due to increasingly high levels of gambling activity.
maybe the way they realize it is to experience the worst incident of gambling that gamblers do and it takes a hit to fix everything. any form of addiction always has a negative impact. and to completely get rid of gambling addiction is very difficult, even though it can be done.

greed and addiction, I think they are all part of gambling. neither is particularly bad, but gamblers may not realize they are doing both.
Addiction is particularly bad, as people keep doing something that they know is having a harmful effect over their lives and instead of stopping, they keep doing it, this is not only bad for them but very discouraging too, as those people may feel they no longer hold any control over their lives and it may make them think that beating their addiction is impossible, a mistake, as even if overcoming an addiction is difficult, it is possible if a person tries to do it with everything they have.
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I am sure that most gamblers will not know that they are actually addicted to gambling. The initial indication is how often you gamble. and this could lead to financial disruption due to increasingly high levels of gambling activity.
maybe the way they realize it is to experience the worst incident of gambling that gamblers do and it takes a hit to fix everything. any form of addiction always has a negative impact. and to completely get rid of gambling addiction is very difficult, even though it can be done.

greed and addiction, I think they are all part of gambling. neither is particularly bad, but gamblers may not realize they are doing both.
Addiction is particularly bad, as people keep doing something that they know is having a harmful effect over their lives and instead of stopping, they keep doing it, this is not only bad for them but very discouraging too, as those people may feel they no longer hold any control over their lives and it may make them think that beating their addiction is impossible, a mistake, as even if overcoming an addiction is difficult, it is possible if a person tries to do it with everything they have.
Let's go for both so we will encourage gamblers not to become both types of gamblers because both of them are harmful.
Addiction tends to have more immediate and severe consequences while greediness can lead to systemic issues that affect us along the process over time.

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