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August 06, 2024, 06:10:49 AM
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I think now everything is clear about the controversy that occurred in a boxing match some time ago, the IOC, which is the highest boxing body in the Olympics, has stated that the Algerian boxer victory was valid because he was a woman, as well as Angela Carini who was in the match decided to withdraw after receiving a very hard blow from Imane Khalif,  carini, has apologized for the controversy that arose from his defeat, the IOC is the party who knows more about the problem and they have stated that if Imane Khalif has qualified for the next round so I think the controversy should have ended now.

At this time, we should be able to respect the victory achieved by Imane Khalif after her hard work as an athlete and when we who close our eyes to the truth may continue to think of her as transgender, but what is certain is that I salute with Imane Khalif who looks very strong in facing every the bullying he received at this time.
I personally don't really follow the 2024 Eurovision contest, but what concerns me at the moment is the opening of the Olympics which seems to be the worst ever compared to the opening of the previous Olympics.


What should we do with Imane Khalifs opponents then? Shouldnt we give them a double respect? Every opponent has trained years to fight against women and have faced something different on this Olympics. After this Olympics games, I hope Olympic committee would make some conclusions and boxers as well. I really hope that boxers next time will adopt their training to facing transgenders.

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August 06, 2024, 07:24:36 AM
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Armand freaking Duplantis! Expected great things from him and he didn't disappoint at all. The man keeps breaking his own world records like it's nothing. 6.25m cleared on the final attempt. Special moment!

After this Olympics games, I hope Olympic committee would make some conclusions and boxers as well. I really hope that boxers next time will adopt their training to facing transgenders.
This is a good idea. The people who are supporting Imane in this case are clearly in the minority and they are playing the victim card ironically when her opponents are the actual victims in this context.

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August 06, 2024, 07:27:46 AM
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Did anyone here witness the drama of the Mens Pole Vault and how Armand Duplantis
of Sweden broke his own record?

It was a close competition up until 5.95m between Duplatis who hadnt missed a try
in the competition, Sam Kendricks of the USA and Karalis of Greece. With the bar moving
to 6m it separated the 3 contenders and meant he secured Gold with his 6m vault.

He then moved the bar to 6.25m to attempt to break his own record of 6.24m. This is all
happening in a full stadium and this event is the only thing happening, its the last event.
The drama was building as he missed his first two attemps but landed the 3rd and final
attempt and the stadium went electric.

To me this was bigger than the Mens 100m in terms of drama, expectation and celebration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3N8uPSVDoI


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August 06, 2024, 08:05:02 AM
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I think now everything is clear about the controversy that occurred in a boxing match some time ago, the IOC, which is the highest boxing body in the Olympics, has stated that the Algerian boxer victory was valid because he was a woman, as well as Angela Carini who was in the match decided to withdraw after receiving a very hard blow from Imane Khalif,  carini, has apologized for the controversy that arose from his defeat, the IOC is the party who knows more about the problem and they have stated that if Imane Khalif has qualified for the next round so I think the controversy should have ended now.

At this time, we should be able to respect the victory achieved by Imane Khalif after her hard work as an athlete and when we who close our eyes to the truth may continue to think of her as transgender, but what is certain is that I salute with Imane Khalif who looks very strong in facing every the bullying he received at this time.
I personally don't really follow the 2024 Eurovision contest, but what concerns me at the moment is the opening of the Olympics which seems to be the worst ever compared to the opening of the previous Olympics.


What should we do with Imane Khalifs opponents then? Shouldnt we give them a double respect? Every opponent has trained years to fight against women and have faced something different on this Olympics. After this Olympics games, I hope Olympic committee would make some conclusions and boxers as well. I really hope that boxers next time will adopt their training to facing transgenders.

this thing is a bit ridiculous in my opinion how can you train for four years in a row and then challenge a person who in all honesty is a man or is very similar to one, respect for everyone but they are 50% right because even the Italian who withdrew should have fought until the end, a real fighter doesn't do that and doesn't behave in that way so in that case the fault lies with both!

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August 06, 2024, 09:05:13 AM
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What a performance for Duplantis in the Pole Vault final.
While others players were struggling at 5.95 he basically was doing training.

After a "decent" 6.10meters he went for the world record attempt and he did it.

I think it is the 9th time he did it, he may go even up to 6.30 from 6.25.

What a legend, another category.

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August 06, 2024, 09:51:58 AM
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What a performance for Duplantis in the Pole Vault final.
While others players were struggling at 5.95 he basically was doing training.

After a "decent" 6.10meters he went for the world record attempt and he did it.

I think it is the 9th time he did it, he may go even up to 6.30 from 6.25.

What a legend, another category.

Yeah, no doubt that he is obviously, the kind of the vault and even the number 2 world rankings finishes 4th and so there was an upset here. The number 3 rank won the silver and someone still the bronze from the Philippines although they have the same score.

And then there are this image of pole vaulter who almost make it however with this big "package" hitting the stick, he fell,  Grin.

The drama with the 100 meter though looks bigger to me, and the pressure on Lyles to win against the Jamaicans plus the US basketball team watching as Noah has said something in the past against NBA players so called becoming world champions.

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August 06, 2024, 09:58:18 AM
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The Philippines just won its second gold in gymnastics courtesy of Carlos Yulo. He did it first in artistic gymnastics and again in the men's vault.
Prior to Hidilyn Diaz winning gold in the 2020 Olympics, we had a 100-year drought. Now, the Philippines has the potential to add more gold as there are still three hopefuls: two in boxing and one in the high jump.
The Philippines is now leading the medal haul in the South East; the Philippines has really come a long way. 
The only two gold that we have currently from the same person. I am proud of Carlos Yulo, our government should invest more in gymnastics and not with basketball and as well as other sports that we can compete like in soccer too. Hidilyn and Carlos, the only two current pinoy athletes that have brought gold medal to our country. I am happy that I was able to witness their greatness while I am still alive.

We should all be proud of our very won Carlos Yulo, damn, 2 golds in a single Olympics? This is very solid accomplishment for the Philippines and he live up to the hype and thing is that our country is not known to produce a gymnastics and then winning golds in the Olympics.

He is coming home a hero with millions of pesos as incentives and then a good home.

And we have our female boxers assured of 2 bronzes already, but they will continue to go and fight tonight and hope that they can go and win and for the semis, assuring of at least a silver but for sure the aim is to go for that gold.

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August 06, 2024, 10:58:47 AM
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Yesterday, I really wanted Armand Duplantis to break world and Olympic records even though he is not a citizen of my country.
The boy broke the pole vault record with 6.25 meters, with the support of his competitors as well as the spectators in the stadium.
Because the record belonged to him again.
I was happy as if my own citizen had become a champion. He is still very young and can do better in the coming matches.






Duplantis and that famous Yusuf Dikeç pose.

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And we have our female boxers assured of 2 bronzes already, but they will continue to go and fight tonight and hope that they can go and win and for the semis, assuring of at least a silver but for sure the aim is to go for that gold.
can't wait to watch their fight later, I've been following their fights from the beginning(all of our boxers in the Olympics tbh) and they are on fire, I hope both of them can advance to the finals and hopefully get another gold for the country.

What should we do with Imane Khalifs opponents then? Shouldnt we give them a double respect? Every opponent has trained years to fight against women and have faced something different on this Olympics. After this Olympics games, I hope Olympic committee would make some conclusions and boxers as well. I really hope that boxers next time will adopt their training to facing transgenders.
huh? why? Imane Khelif was never a transgender, she never transitioned into anything, she was born a woman with female body parts, raised as a woman and Identified as a woman all her life. it's nasty that there are people who are clearly ignorant about her medical condition and still insist that she is a transgender(tbh I am curious if there are people who don't know what transgender means). the amount of misinformation and hate she received from people because of a boxer who clearly could not take a hard hit and then cried and surrendered is just incredibly ridiculous(no offense to the Italians 😂).

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August 06, 2024, 12:18:44 PM
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The Philippines just won its second gold in gymnastics courtesy of Carlos Yulo. He did it first in artistic gymnastics and again in the men's vault.
Prior to Hidilyn Diaz winning gold in the 2020 Olympics, we had a 100-year drought. Now, the Philippines has the potential to add more gold as there are still three hopefuls: two in boxing and one in the high jump.
The Philippines is now leading the medal haul in the South East; the Philippines has really come a long way. 

EJ Obiena
nearly just missed out on the podium for the men's pole vault. Hidilyn Diaz won the silver medal prior to her gold medal and Carlos Yulo won his bronze medal prior to his two gold medals which give much hope that EJ Obiena will get to the podium for LA 2028 Olympics.

The Philippines is definitely on a good momentum considering that athletes especially in gymnastics are not sufficiently supported. Hopefully after such a success, the government will focus more on training such young talents.

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^ Yup, hats off to Philippines for carrying the good fight for Southeast Asia. I don't know why I thought Malaysia had some chances in badminton -- while they had some young upstarts, we've never really recaptured the levels of talent we had a decade or so ago. We've faded in bowling, and the diver from my village who got us a crazy silver all those years ago also has dropped off. Hoping for one more hurrah in boxing for you guys in Philippines!

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Vinesh Phogat actually stunned so many including me by defeating the reigning Olympic Champ(Yui Susaki) in seconds like it was nothing. Unbelievable stuff by the Indian grappler.

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The first semi-finalist in volleyball has been determined. Turkey beat China 3-2 and advanced to the semi-finals.

We are proud of our girls, they showed us a great match.

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Vinesh Phogat actually stunned so many including me by defeating the reigning Olympic Champ(Yui Susaki) in seconds like it was nothing. Unbelievable stuff by the Indian grappler.

On top of that, she actually managed to defeat another pro(Livach) a little while earlier and entered the semifinals. Legend! Also, Neeraj Chopra qualified for the final by almost hitting 90m. Another legend!

Vinesh Phogat actually created a lot of controversy, by alleging that Brij Bhusan Saran Singh is sexually abusing women athletes. And this in turn resulted in an all out caste war between the more numerous Jats (who supported INDI alliance during last elections) and the less numerous Rajputs (who mostly support NDA). If she wins either a gold or silver, it will be celebrated as a blow against the ruling alliance. BTW, glad to hear that Neeraj is in good form. He is an active soldier in the Indian army (4 Rajputana Rifles), so I have a lot of respect for him.

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There is no doubt about that, she was supposedly born a woman, and because of her XY chromosomes she is like that, but she has similar conditions with her finalist rival, no offense but they Both look like men, so I think that sometimes these types of competitions Should be divided when there are cases like this, there should be a division only for people with these capabilities, although I don't know how they could integrate it, but that woman is obviously not at the level of a woman , She is at the Strength levels of a man , it's that with her gestures , how she sits, how she speaks, how she moves, it's like seeing two men.

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August 06, 2024, 04:41:45 PM
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The first semi-finalist in volleyball has been determined. Turkey beat China 3-2 and advanced to the semi-finals.

We are proud of our girls, they showed us a great match.

Now they will be paired with the winner of the Serbia-Italy match.

I watched the match and it was very thrilling.  Smiley  I'm so happy that we have finally reached beyond quarter finals in an Olympics volleyball tournament in history. We had a really challenging competitor against us and honestly I was thinking like we would probably lose. Not having my expectations too high helped me become 2x satisfied.

Now we are waiting for our next competitor. It is going to be Italy or Serbia. If we are able to beat China I believe we can do much more. We are a volleyball country as you know.  Wink  Let's go for the gold medal!

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August 06, 2024, 06:49:26 PM
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1China22201456
2UnitedStates21302879
3Australia1412935
4France13161948
5GreatBritain12141844
6SouthKorea118726
7Japan1161128
8Italy910625
9Netherlands85619

As always it is a race between China and United States for the bigger number of medal.

France is doing greatly but they are at home and that is a big factor.

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August 06, 2024, 07:58:41 PM
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It is a shame that these athletes with their entire lives to get on the Olympic stage and these games are being used as some woke memorial. Such a shame and a disservice to the people who these games are about. The Olympics aren’t going to be around for much longer if they don’t get their priorities straight.

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It is France against Spain in Olympics football tournament final, like most people expected to see, but first we are going to see match for third place.
Morocco is playing against Egypt and I think they are winning this one with support of their crowd, but it wont be an easy win.
They played very good in semi-final match and Spain scored winning goal few minutes before the end.
I think we can see both teams scoring and maybe extra time for Morocco vs Egypt.

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August 06, 2024, 08:15:58 PM
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There is no doubt about that, she was supposedly born a woman, and because of her XY chromosomes she is like that, but she has similar conditions with her finalist rival, no offense but they Both look like men, so I think that sometimes these types of competitions Should be divided when there are cases like this, there should be a division only for people with these capabilities, although I don't know how they could integrate it, but that woman is obviously not at the level of a woman , She is at the Strength levels of a man , it's that with her gestures , how she sits, how she speaks, how she moves, it's like seeing two men.

I think no one wants to be born different from other people, so we can't exclude them just because they have abilities or shortcomings compared to others, because in terms of identity and gender, she has been declared a woman so there is no reason for us to keeps trying to stop him from fighting although he has strength equal to a man, but doesn't an athlete have to have a strategy other than relying on strength in boxing?
I think there are still ways to defeat someone who has more strength than us, so strength is not something that will be the main factor in achieving victory, of course I also realistically see that there is inequality in the match if we judge it only from strength, but I think we can't continue to bully her just because she is now able to reach the semifinals.

What you say actually I agree, if there is a distribution for each athlete who takes part in the competition as we have seen so far in the Paralympics, but isn't it quite difficult for the sports committee to divide athletes who have genetic disorders like Imane Khelif, because from what I read on google the potential for Swyer syndrome to occur is 1/80.000 births and not everyone who suffers from Swyer syndrome like Imane Khelif is an athlete, especially boxing, so I think it will be difficult for any sports committee to integrate it.


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