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June 03, 2024, 09:17:44 PM
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It's possible to bet against the team you're supporting, it's all for fun sake.
You said it right, that's truly fun. Whenever there are some games that I'd like to personally see and tune in, if I am just tripping then I'd bet against my favorite team. This isn't odd at all because anyone surely have done it. Maybe some just did it through an accident but those that have done it on a purpose was what they like to do at that time.

Most person say "they rather support their bet ticket than support their team when the odds of winning match is against their team" is quite funny though, but the fact that you bet against your team does mean you are not a good fan, after all your team has nothing to offer to you than just entertainment. Those who gamble against their team and eventually wins the bet will get excited for winning their bet and might even pay for viewing ticket to scream their next match live.
Very well. Your team will lose but you will lose money if obviously you know that the odds are favorable against the team and you have read some news that might affect the result of the match. That's why we have to be wise as well and we shouldn't just let our hearts decide in betting. Us, being a fan won't be gone just because we do this. It's a personal matter when we bet and do what you like to do with your money.

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June 04, 2024, 10:55:45 AM
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There is no significant benefit to remaining loyal to a team that is doing poorly. Just out of bias it might be hard to do but once you’ve made a profit and the money is in your wallet, you will once again feel good and won’t feel any regret.

The only time I can see it being a problem is when it involves national teams. Going against your country, even if they aren’t performing well, would be a line that most people could not cross.

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June 04, 2024, 01:07:50 PM
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Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?

It depends on the situation, if I need money and if based on my analysis the club I'm supporting is a huge underdog with no way to team I can bet against the team or club I'm supporting as a gambler we are looking for an opportunity to make money so why let this slip you, there are will be times that you can show your support to your favorite team.

When I was betting on horse racing I had a list of favorite horses that gave me a lot of winning combinations, but there were times that I bet against them when they were handicapped and they were up against strong horses It was just the way things on sports betting, you can remain loyal and still make money.

It's different if you are a very loyal supporter and you do not need money and just here out of loyalty to the club you're supporting.

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June 04, 2024, 01:20:10 PM
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Yeah, this kind of thread has been posted before. I feel bad for that employee who gambled against his team and the company that he works for.

IMHO, if you're part of the company, it's normal to support them all the way. But if it's about betting, the company doesn't have jurisdiction about it unless you're entirely part of the club that plays on the field.

And if I am a supporter, I typically do bet against the team that I support if I think that there's some handicap that will make them lose and it's normal.

As employee he should know what is ideal for him and he should not bet on their enemy teams since that is morally bad to the club you are working on. Much better for this if we don't bet when we know that out team is facing a strong clubs. Then bet only on other team so that we can possibly avoid any conflict which that employee already experienced. To bad for him for losing his job just for that situation.

And same as you or other people said in this thread that I will also bet on other team if I know the team I'm supporting is on disadvantage side and their superstar or important players is injured. This gonna give us huge chance to earn so I don't think there's something wrong for doing this since this is I think normal since majority of us want to earn.
I agree, it's better if he doesn't gamble at all and retains the principle that you're working for the team that you should support as well. But a gambler will always be a gambler and he can bet even against his own will.

I think what matters here is giving courtesy to the company and team that feeds you and your family. If there's a clause on his contract that he shouldn't do such, the consequence that he got was probably fair on the team's end.

Apart from that, he might have been aware of it and seen it coming before doing the bet.

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June 04, 2024, 01:49:52 PM
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If you are happy with the money from your bet, there's no harm in betting even if you don't support the team you support, but if on the contrary you are happy with the team you support and don't like money and prioritize the team you support for self-esteem, there's nothing wrong either. you can do that as you like, everyone has their own goal in gambling, some are for money and some are for fun, but personally I never bet against the team I support, let alone my favorite team, even though I can make money from that bet. .

I'm not too tempted by money, let alone seeing the team I support lose, but we also have to look at what is meant by the team we support, if the team we support is a weak team that is at the bottom of the rankings, I think it is also difficult to support it fully. Moreover, betting in the opposite direction will definitely continue to lose, gamblers always have a choice on how they want to gamble and I'm sure everyone knows what to do when betting on the team they support, usually most of them skip it and look for other matches.

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June 04, 2024, 02:15:08 PM
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Initially when I started betting I don't bet against the team am supporting which is Manchester United to loss, those time instead of betting against my team to loss I rather bet them to win even when I know it may not be possible but in the game of football nothing is impossible sometimes it will work out for my good sometimes too it will fail and having the club am supporting in my bet slip always make me feel uncomfortable when watching them playing, but now I even bet against them to loss sometimes to win since at the end of the week they will receive there salaries, despite they lost or won. And also knowing they are not in a good form now and it has been working out for me so that when they are been paid after lossing I will also be paid from the bet I won vis versa.

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June 04, 2024, 02:47:51 PM
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Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?

It depends on the situation, if I need money and if based on my analysis the club I'm supporting is a huge underdog with no way to team I can bet against the team or club I'm supporting as a gambler we are looking for an opportunity to make money so why let this slip you, there are will be times that you can show your support to your favorite team.

When I was betting on horse racing I had a list of favorite horses that gave me a lot of winning combinations, but there were times that I bet against them when they were handicapped and they were up against strong horses It was just the way things on sports betting, you can remain loyal and still make money.

It's different if you are a very loyal supporter and you do not need money and just here out of loyalty to the club you're supporting.
Several years ago I analyzed my club and realized how weak it was, I even had thoughts that I had never seen it weaker and I was right. In general, I placed one bet on him and she won. After that, I looked at future matches and there were good odds that I couldn’t refuse, because the teams were almost equal in strength. In general, I won them all (about 4 bets on 4 games), and was able to make money. Of course, it may not be very ethical to bet against your favorite team, but I am not a hardcore fan and it is very easy for me to bet against a team and I will not feel anything bad. Let those who are involved in fraud or fake matches feel that this is what really should not be done.

 
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June 04, 2024, 03:23:22 PM
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Usually people are supporting popular club or club with many old achievement.

This make the club mostly become favorite even though they have terrible performance, but many people keep cheering for them and believe they're strong like they were. If you can bet against club you support, you can take advantage over stupid people who keep supporting their favorite club.

You will make a good amount of money by betting against your favorite club.

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June 04, 2024, 04:16:52 PM
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I think betting against your own team is often some of the best or most intelligent bets that can be made.  Why?  One typically knows their own team better than any other team, so if you're in a position to bet against your team, knowing that you know them as well as you do, and if you think they're going to lose and you can make money off of it, than why not?

When it comes to sports betting, I always say bet with you head, not your heart. I often have to remind myself of this when betting on Sundays (NFL football) or playing fantasy football.

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June 05, 2024, 03:52:24 AM
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I remember reading more or less the same topic, where I basically said that gambling for or against your favorite club doesn't necessarily mean supporting or betraying them unless your club explicitly made profits from the bet result. Even if a casino sponsors your club, I doubt our club will get a pie on betting results since that can put them into dicey situations. I'd buy official shirts or mercs if supporting my club financial situation is what I desired. It feels weird seeing how somebody can get so heated up when somebody else bets against their club, maybe because the betting culture is different.

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June 05, 2024, 04:58:46 AM
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I think he made a very big mistake by going against the rules of their club because as an employee of a team or company I didn't see the reason why you should violate just because of a single bet you lose your job. However I think, one that is not and employee can bet against their club why because you can't say that you are a Manchester united fans and you know that they are going to lose the match instead of you to play against them and collect your money you take because you are Man united fans and lose your bet why you know that they can win the match.

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I would definitely do it. Especially if I knew all the “kitchen” that is going on in the team. I say this so confidently because I have something to do with a sports team in my country that regularly loses. The point is not that I would do this against the team, but the fact that the team does not receive any bonuses or salaries while the players lose. But by betting on a loss, I would be compensating myself for the amount that should be paid to me for the time I spend working for this team.

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It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan.

In as much as I know that what he did was totally wrong, I don't see anything like betrayal in this case. I don't support what he did neither did not condemn his action because his bet has no any impact on the performance of the club. He's just victimized for trying to utilize the opportunity that every gambler will like to seize too. It's the club that betrayed him for invading into his privacy to investigate his bets. Is there any agreement between the employees and the club concerning this? I guess No! He's not a player and can not influence the game but only analyze the team current form and place the bet to make extra money, perhaps he's underpay in the club.

I won't like playing bet against my team but whenever I play bet in favor of them and they lose the game, I do regret it and wish to have played against them in the first place. I mostly avoid including my club in my ticket when they are playing against a strong team that there winning is not guaranteed. My conscious will not allow me to play against my club. It's possible that the employee is not a fan of the club by the way but just a worker and he has the right to play his bet as he wish even as fan.











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June 05, 2024, 02:17:00 PM
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In as much as I know that what he did was totally wrong, I don't see anything like betrayal in this case. I don't support what he did neither did not condemn his action because his bet has no any impact on the performance of the club. He's just victimized for trying to utilize the opportunity that every gambler will like to seize too. It's the club that betrayed him for invading into his privacy to investigate his bets. Is there any agreement between the employees and the club concerning this? I guess No! He's not a player and can not influence the game but only analyze the team current form and place the bet to make extra money, perhaps he's underpay in the club.

I won't like playing bet against my team but whenever I play bet in favor of them and they lose the game, I do regret it and wish to have played against them in the first place. I mostly avoid including my club in my ticket when they are playing against a strong team that there winning is not guaranteed. My conscious will not allow me to play against my club. It's possible that the employee is not a fan of the club by the way but just a worker and he has the right to play his bet as he wish even as fan.
If your suggestion says that what he did is wrong then it's right to see it as betrayal to the club he works for, left for me I'll only see it as wrong when there are certain rules that goes against his actions if not i don't see anything bad in trying to make an extra cash by betting against his employers, if my employers are constantly performing poorly and I figure I could make extra money if I bet against them, I think I'll seize that opportunity. Also there are chances that he could've lost one of those bets cause I've seen situations where underdogs become the Victors, but in this case they kept losing so it's a plus for him. What if he had bet on them to lose and they won on more occasions would they still query him for losing his bets? no I don't think so. I'm a die hard fan of the team I support, I've never betted against them, I'll rather bet on number of goals or both teams to score or my team to win or draw but in a case where they have a poor season and keep performing poorly on a regular, I think I'll be forced to bet against them in certain matches were they're definitely the underdogs.

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Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me, I feel he's not a fan of the club and just an employee and I'll do same if I were not a fan of the club I work for moreover the club kept losing and he seized the opportunity to make extra cash from their misfortune. Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?

LOL. I can see that you love the team you support so much. It wasn't a bad idea to bet against the team that you support. If the team you support is not in good form to win their game, it is not bad to bet on their opponents to win, I have done that so many times against the team that I support because I'm not the manager to build the players, I am just an ordinary fan who loves the club, and I gamble to get more money. Did you say you would rather bet on other clubs than bet against the club you support? Well, that's all for you but I don't think someone who gambles to make some cash will do so. Even some managers have gambled against their team to lose.

Haven't you see where a player betted against them to lose? Let me use Sandro Tonali as an example, the Newcastle player who has been banned from football for ten months with illegal betting charges, so that was not bad to bet against the team that you support when they continuously lose their games. I do not blame any fans who bet against the club they support because we don't know the situation they are in, and gambling is made for fun.

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Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me,
Judging this case from a standard point of view, I must say that this man was just an ordinary employee who saw an opportunity, and wanted to take advantage of it, and nothing more, of which he owes no one an undiluted loyalty, inasmuch as he was exercising his primary duties. Because to me, I thought execution of primary duties would have been the top priority, and not the club an employee gambles on or not. Because I have just 3 questions I will love to ask regarding this matter, such as;
1. How did the club management got to know that he placed a bet against them to lose?
2. What was the outcome of the game? ( Did did he win the bet just as predicted or not..

 
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Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me, I feel he's not a fan of the club and just an employee and I'll do same if I were not a fan of the club I work for moreover the club kept losing and he seized the opportunity to make extra cash from their misfortune. Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?

I can't remember if I have ever bet against Manchester City this season not because they are too good but I just have some confidence in them that they wouldn't lose their match, they did and made me lose some money but I still believe in them. Ideally, it's not a good advice to bet against my club because they hardly lose their matches and some that I'm not sure about, I give them over goals because I know they will score some goals, not a good strategy for me.

But if indeed happen to be Chelsea or like Luiton town that ended in the relegation, I will choose them but the problem is that casino knows when a team is not good and when they does, the odd is always low. Imagine a situation like this where Manchester City was having a match with Luiton town, it's obvious that City are going to trash them and for this reason, bookmakers will lower their odd to almost nothing, so when you pick them to lose, you wouldn't make anything from the selection.

As for the lady, maybe it's in their policy for the employees to never bet against their club and she violated it and they sack her. In some places, gambling with your team or club is not allow, they forbid it and it's very wrong to that with gambling.

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June 06, 2024, 07:36:35 AM
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Why not. If I  could bet against my friends after drinking together why I would restrict myself from betting against supported club. Gambling is more about money than about support of friendship.

 One day I have staked a wager with a bookmaker against my club, gained clump of money (just my luck Wink) which allowed me to take in their matches in the course of the whole season. I think in this case  both won - me and my club.

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June 06, 2024, 09:41:29 AM
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I love football and have been watching football since childhood. I have enough knowledge about different clubs. My all time best club in English Premier League is Manchester United I know my club can't do well but still I support this team. Again my favorite team in La-Liga is Real Madrid and I am always proud of this team and my favorite team in German league is Bayern Munich. That is, I follow these three leagues regularly, that's why three teams of these three leagues are my favorite. But for the sake of betting I'm definitely ready to bet against my club. If Manchester United fight against other strong opponents including Manchester United and Manchester City, but I will bet on that strong opponent instead of Manny Manchester United because I have more chances to win there. It's okay to support the team, but I definitely don't want to support the team and bet for that team even though I know they are going to lose.

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June 06, 2024, 02:02:38 PM
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Something like that is like betraying the club that has employed him to get a salary every month because most of his hard work was obtained because he worked at the club he worked for but unfortunately he bet against the club he supports so that made the club owner feel angry and it's only natural that he was angry and fired this employee because if this employee bets to lose on the club he supports, it's the same as praying for the club he supports to lose. For anyone, if we support a club, we really have to work professionally, not only think about profits, but loyalty can be paid with money.

Not all loyalty can be valued with money, there are still opportunities for profit in other matches, it's not just about the club that supports it. If I were a club, I also wouldn't like to see my employees betray and would probably do the same to fire someone like that. Indeed, betting is the right of each gambler, but without the club, how can he work and earn money having too much ambition to make a lot of profit is not good and he deserves this punishment.
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