Would you bet against the club you support?

[Wexnident]

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He's... an employee. Not a die hard fan lol. If this was included in the contract then yea, he deserves getting sacked since he went back on the agreement but otherwise, I see no reason why he should be fired over it.

Personally I've better against the teams that are my favorite/root for before. I'd consider myself pretty fickle when it comes to choosing teams after all. Not that I don't avidly support them when I do, heck I go all out whenever I need to. But if I feel that they don't deserve my support anymore, I move on, simple as that.

[klidex]

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I think you are right that it's unethical even though he did it to earn some extra cash since he knew the club hadn't been performing very well and he could get a win if he bet against them, but as you said, if he was earning money by working for that club, being ethical would be to avoid betting against the club only to show that you are loyal to it and that you respect the fact that they are providing you and your family food on the table if not anything else.

He could do that without having to bet against the club he was working for. There are a lot of matches and games and there can be more opportunities for one to make their bets even if they don't do it on one match, so he could leave the matches where his club was involved just for loyalty's sake.

Not only doing it for the good of the club itself but also for himself it is better to avoid betting on the club where he works rather than having to risk losing his job and losing trust because you have worked at that place and we should show a good attitude towards the club that employs us if we bet against it is the same as you betraying and being disloyal to the club where you work so it's normal if you are fired just because you gambled to make a profit, every gambler definitely wants a profit but it depends on how they get it and there are other ways you don't have to betray.

Of course there is always another way, there are many matches from other leagues where it is possible to make a profit depending on our ability to predict the match, if you are lucky you can win and you can make a profit so there is no need to fight your club. Sometimes greed makes someone only think about profits without thinking long about what impact they will receive if they bet against the club where you work and this is also a valuable lesson that loyalty is better than just thinking about greed.

[ndutndut]

It's just a matter of ethics, it's like this, if you have a business and one of your employees hopes that your business will lose to competitors, do you still want to employ unethical employees like this? it's like that. Because he is a worker at the club, he lives off the salary he gets from the club, and it has become the main thing for him to support the club, even when he is sure that the club will lose, because that has become an ethic in their work. It was different if he was an ordinary person, no one would mind which club he would bet on, even if it was his own city club. However, he is an employee and it is his obligation to support the club - if he wants extra cash then he can bet against the club, but the risk is predictable that he will lose his job.

Yes that's right. I think this is just a matter of ethics and maybe there are also club rules that he still has to obey. In fact, he could have bet secretly if he wanted, without anyone knowing that he didn't support the club he worked for, so this dismissal wouldn't have happened. However, that is the risk of working at a club, rules and ethics must be maintained.

I personally will not bet on a team that according to my analysis will lose even though that team is my favorite team. It's true that betting is just for entertainment, but if we already know we won't win, choosing an opponent doesn't matter because losing a bet will also make us disappointed, but sometimes I prefer not to bet if my favorite team is not favored to win. Because there are still many betting options on other matches that we can choose from.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan. Left for me, I feel he's not a fan of the club and just an employee and I'll do same if I were not a fan of the club I work for moreover the club kept losing and he seized the opportunity to make extra cash from their misfortune. Well I never betted against the club i support I'll rather bet on other matches. However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?

Well, judging from a professional mindset, in his rules of engagement, if there's not such rule as gambling against the club, then its clear oppression. Their ficus on retrenching him should be on the good of his inefficiency to deliver quality service or his actions that destroys the image of the club.

Betting against them is his private life and not his job description. In gambling you do what you must to secure a win, nobody intentionally loses money because he supports a team. I think he was loud about his winnings, else how did the football company find out?, or do casinos now leak their clients data to third parties?.

[Mrbluntzy]

He is just an employee and not a direct fan of that club which means that he can bet against the club if it doesn't go against his contract agreement with his manager or employer. For example, bribery is against the contract agreement of lectures in my school, if any lecturer is found guilty of receiving bribes from student, their contract will be immediately terminated.

For this man that was sacked because he bet against the club he is working for, it is not his fault that the club don't have the ability to perform well and he was not supposed to be sacked because he gambled base on his choice and not because he wants the club to lose. Let him just search for a new job.

[Zanab247]

He is just an employee and not a direct fan of that club which means that he can bet against the club if it doesn't go against his contract agreement with his manager or employer. For example, bribery is against the contract agreement of lectures in my school, if any lecturer is found guilty of receiving bribes from student, their contract will be immediately terminated.

Even though, he is employee in that club, is it written in their constitution that they may bet for the favor of their club, i guess they sacked him for other issues, but they just use this betting to remove him from the club because I have seen many players who bet against their club because they know that their opponent are stronger than their club.

But this is not bribe, if you try to understand the issue very well, this is a something many coaches or players can fall victim to in their clubs, just that they will not spread the information on social media because people will turn the matter to what will end the person Job like what happened to the young guy that bet against their club.

For this man that was sacked because he bet against the club he is working for, it is not his fault that the club don't have the ability to perform well and he was not supposed to be sacked because he gambled base on his choice and not because he wants the club to lose. Let him just search for a new job.

That is what their employers suppose stand for to give the man justice, because he is not the caused of his club poor performance and he look at the game very well through his research, he discovered that there is no way his club can take victory from their opponent which is the reason he predicted against their club to make his money from the prediction.

[Bravut]

That is what their employers suppose stand for to give the man justice, because he is not the caused of his club poor performance and he look at the game very well through his research, he discovered that there is no way his club can take victory from their opponent which is the reason he predicted against their club to make his money from the prediction.

Well said, I agree with you. The Man is a true definition of Value and un-sentimental Human that stands on the virtue of truth and won't trade it because of emotion. If I was the Man I would do same, and also file a sue against the club, because I have not read book, article or script in Football that says betting against your club, is wrong and punishable. Everyone is entitled to there own decision and deserves to be respected for it,this is slavery in another form.

[sotelorene]

Well I think i understand that feeling when you employ someone and then the person start looking for other means of survival but this is football and it's entirely a different case, the man who bet for Westham to lose is just looking for money and him betting Westham to loss is not the reason why they were losing those matches, I use to be a United fan but anytime I see that United is going to play a big club while they are not inform I will keep away the fact that I am a United fan and bet what I feel will be possible. Lastly, I don't think they sacked the man because of how many times Westham has lose but rather I think they sacked him out of  jealousy and I think they were biased, let me ask do you think they would have sacked him if he was losing money while betting on Westham to lose off cause they won't go to the extent of sacking him but it would've be a case to discuss.

[goaldigger]

If there's no prohibition with regards to your contract and working with the club, I think betting against them should not be an issue especially if that team will play against the top teams, but of course better to keep it a secret or else you'll be kick out. I do support a lot of local club teams but there are times i placed a bet against them not because I'm not a supporter anymore but I just don't see them winning agains a better team and that's a fact and if you want to make money better not to get too emotional.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

I would definitely do it. Especially if I knew all the “kitchen” that is going on in the team. I say this so confidently because I have something to do with a sports team in my country that regularly loses. The point is not that I would do this against the team, but the fact that the team does not receive any bonuses or salaries while the players lose. But by betting on a loss, I would be compensating myself for the amount that should be paid to me for the time I spend working for this team.

I like your reasoning, being realistic enough and not being a fan so fanatical as to overlook the benefits that can even be gained from the defeat of the team we supported in the first place.

After all, betting is profit-seeking, not just a pleasure and forcing a club that will actually lose, but is still supported.
Compensating for yourself also needs to be done, being a supporter who is too fanatical is also not good, look at reality and take advantage.

There's no sentiments when you're on the pursuit of funds, you look out for loopholes and maximize them to your advantage and that's how it should be. Its not in your job description to gamble in support of a club you know has a high possibility of losing. Its a loophole and the staff maximized it to his advantage and that's the real act of gambling.

The club got it wrong by dissolving his contract, its oppression if you ask me. Means there's no freedom of thought and decision making on the  part of the staff. If they're so hurt about their bad form, they should do well to improve their performance in whatever way necessary.
Victimizing the staff would not correct the bad form of the club. I think they're venting their anger or frustration on the wrong target.

[topbitcoin]

If there's no prohibition with regards to your contract and working with the club, I think betting against them should not be an issue especially if that team will play against the top teams, but of course better to keep it a secret or else you'll be kick out. I do support a lot of local club teams but there are times i placed a bet against them not because I'm not a supporter anymore but I just don't see them winning agains a better team and that's a fact and if you want to make money better not to get too emotional.

Well this needs to be questioned if there is no prohibition in the employment contract then I think that he has the right to defend himself because it is not in his employment contract agreement, but indeed if there is even if it is only written implied in his employment contract agreement then he gets the right justice, the team expelled him from his job because he chose to gamble against his own club.

And it's also quite strange why his gamble was known to his manager which caused him to be expelled, is it possible that he did not keep it a secret from his superiors, or maybe he told his friend but betrayed him and told his superiors that he did not have the morals to stand against his own club.

For me personally it is better to keep it a secret and no one knows about his gambling activities especially if I am an employee of the club, I would rather save my career that makes money continuously than lose my job because of betting madness.

[Issa56]

Pardon me if this post or something similar have been created before now. Well this post was inspired by a news from Football Tweet on  X concerning a Swansea City FC   employee who got sacked for betting on the club he works in to lose for about 130 times. It's so unfortunate he lost his jobs, Well some people were in his support and claimed it's not his fault for the club to keep losing and the man was only trying to make extra cash, while there were others who claimed it was betrayal and he should've supported the club as a true fan.

I feel bad for the employee that was sacked because I didn’t see anything bad in what the person did, because working with a team doesn’t mean I should always place a bet in support of them, even when it’s obvious that they can’t win. When we are gambling, we should be smart, we shouldn’t just gamble blindly. I am a die hard fan of my club, but in some matches, I don’t place a bet in support of them, if I know they won’t be winning the match, I will rather place a bet on the opponent to win instead of wasting money on my club.
 
Seriously, I will say what the team which employed him did was totally wrong, the employee was just trying to make more money for himself, and the person placed the bet based on his analysis. I hope we know the employee might be wrong and will still be losing the bet.

[Ever-young]

I'm willing to place a bet against my team if it means I get to win some money, but it becomes another story when i'm a part of a football club and i'll be betting against one of their matches. I'd rather not risk losing my job over a one-time bet since there's a conflict of interest. In sports betting, you sometimes have to set aside your emotions and learn to take the opposing side except if you're working for a club or team.

Also, here's a link to the betting incident in case others are curious about the details.

You are completely correct and I support you as well, I can't risk my money to bet for my club I'm not sure if they will or not even if I'm working for them, since I'm not God and I can't actually predict if they will or not.

Sometimes in life, it's good to compromise for us to get what we want even though it's a about luck but I can't rely on them because anything can happen and I don't want to feel regret or bad concerning the action I took.

[GxSTxV]

Betting against a club you are fan of and betting against a club you work for is two completely different things. You can be working for someone and still not be a fan for that team it just requires your job and you are not supposed to bet for that team to win even if you were sure they are going to lose, I consider betting and gambling to be a personal thing and not something you can mix with professional life.

Betting against a team you support and are a fan of is completely normal in my opinion,  if you noticed that the performance of your club is decreasing and noticed that they are playing against a very strong team then your guts would technically tell you that they are going to lose that one and it is going to be based on your deep knowledge of that team,  you could earn some money out of it and it is not a bad thing.
Some people make take being a fan into a Stan level and would never accept to bet against their team as they consider it as a betrayal. People need to make a difference between things like that.

[Richbased]

However this brings us back to the question, would you bet against the club you support ?

Definitely i would bet against the team I support if they are under performing but if it involves a club I am employed to work for, I can't do that because it will look as though you don't have the interest of the club at heart but even if I was to bet against such a team i will prefer to do it secretly without anyone noticing because i see no reason why I should bet in favour of a team i support or a team i work for even when there are possibilities of them losing a game against a stronger opposition so continuous betting on a team you support whether they win or not will only show that you are a true fan but it can't change the fact that you are losing money while supporting your favourite team like what joy can one derive if he loses his money on a team he supports and yet the team end up losing again isn't that gonna be a double heartbreak?

[Sakanwa]

Before,I used to feel so emotional when betting, especially when my team is playing and maybe they aren't really doing well,and I am betting,I used to find it difficult to bet against my team,but after doing that a couple of times,I realized this club of a thing is not going to put food on my table,and even when I see teams that can beat Arsenal,I will still predict Arsenal to win,when I know quite well that my team won't win.Thank God I have stopped,I have stopped betting on my team,if I see that the team playing against my team is capable of winning,I will give those people straight win against my team.Food first,before club.

[livingfree]

I am not a club employee so if I'll bet against any club that's okay and that won't be against my principle.

Definitely i would bet against the team I support if they are under performing but if it involves a club I am employed to work for, I can't do that

That is one of the reasons why someone is going to bet against the club that they like. If it's going to involve your money, you either be an avid supporter and even your bets will be with them.

But if not, you're just going to bet against them when there are handicaps that you've seen on the news and that particular favorite club can't do that much for that specific match.

[Docnaster]

Before,I used to feel so emotional when betting, especially when my team is playing and maybe they aren't really doing well,and I am betting,I used to find it difficult to bet against my team,but after doing that a couple of times,I realized this club of a thing is not going to put food on my table,and even when I see teams that can beat Arsenal,I will still predict Arsenal to win,when I know quite well that my team won't win.Thank God I have stopped,I have stopped betting on my team,if I see that the team playing against my team is capable of winning,I will give those people straight win against my team.Food first,before club.

It's a good thing for one to be passionate about his love for whichever club he chooses to support because that makes football more interesting to such persons but when it comes to gambling, there are things we shouldn't allow to affect our decisions and one of those things our love for our clubs of choice. I used to be emotional when I'm gambling in any game my darling club is playing because I'm always wanting them to win but there came a time when my club started to underperform while I was still seriously betting on them to win, a decision that made me lose a lot of money until one day, I decided to gamble without emotions. The decision not to gamble without emotions is one of my best decisions in gambling because it helped me to see beyond my passion for my club and analyze the game as I should do which at the end, I win my games.

[Dewi Aries]

Work is work and gambling is a choice, everyone is free to choose what they want, one of which may be choosing a club that will play against the club where you work, it doesn't matter because the decision they take will not affect the situation, or meaning the defeat they experience. by that team not because he bet on another team. Moreover, I don't think there are any rules about people who are only allowed to support the club where they work when they want to place a bet, meaning that betting is something else outside of the world of work and everyone is free to choose whatever they think is good or what they want. .

I'm sure that one of the reasons why he bet against the club he works for is because he saw that the opposing team was much stronger than the team he worked for, but yes, if I imagine how the situation is there, he will definitely be in the corner of most of his colleagues. others who were there, and honestly I didn't think that just because of different choices this person would be claimed as a traitor, even though it was clear he was only working and earning money to support himself or his family.

[iBaba]

There are times when the Team that one supports or is on a roll and yes, they can lose almost like anyone else, but even so, I think that in my case I have a very Sporting feeling, if I go against my team I think I would feel very bad during the whole game and the game would seem eternal, I don't know, I think I would feel uneasy or something going against my team even if it is bad, how could it be affected if I go against my own team and then if it wins, well the feeling would be worse, I am very sentimental in this thing of protections with respect to my teams, Knowing that they are going to lose I Always keep a hope that I Know that they can achieve it.

Well, if you ask someone like me, I will definitely say yes to you. I can go against my team when betting when I'm sure they will not succeed in the game. While I see my team as the best in almost all the games that they play and in the league at large, I also believe that some games cannot be won by them because of the caliber of people that they are playing with at that material game. For instance, if I support a club like Dortmund and they were to meet in a match with Real Madrid, while I may support them in reality to win, I will bet Real Madrid to win against them because of the chances available to me since my judgement will be solely based on their track records in the past and their current performance status.

This is why, I believe gambling might be a source of fun and happiness to a great number of people, but ultimately, gambling is meant to be profitable for anyone who's engaging in it and not otherwise. Therefore, my bet will go for Real Madrid to win, while Dortmund will lose.