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December 01, 2024, 06:00:26 AM
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At the moment, the odds of Liverpool, which are leading with a 100% result and winning a head-to-head meeting with Real, are estimated at 5.50 (Liverpool is the favorite for the title according to bookmakers), and the odds of Real are estimated at 7.50. There's not much difference between the favorite and the one which's at risk of not making the playoffs, is there? I don't think anyone is considering this option seriously, but PSG is under threat.
The situation of Real Madrid is somewhat unpredictable now. They could just lose the next match who knows and they could win. We are no much reliant on Real Madrid as a big team until they return to good form. And also the majority of their players need to be available for use. Ancelotti is gradually becoming frustrated and more frustration will come when the team don't win and also Mbappe doesn't score.
If Real Madrid doesn't qualify in the first spot, it will be ridiculous especially as they are the defending champions.
Real Madrid could win this match, but I think the chances are very small because Atalanta have performed well this season, they have managed to maintain their best performance in two different competitions (Serie A and UCL). Real Madrid biggest problem lies in their defensive area, conceding two goals against Liverpool will probably continue because Atalanta productivity is very good. Ancelotti certainly cannot be calm with the depth of the squad he currently has, facing a team like Atalanta certainly requires a complete squad and Ancelotti cannot field his best squad like when they beat Atalanta in the European Super Cup.
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December 01, 2024, 10:02:16 AM
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At the moment, the odds of Liverpool, which are leading with a 100% result and winning a head-to-head meeting with Real, are estimated at 5.50 (Liverpool is the favorite for the title according to bookmakers), and the odds of Real are estimated at 7.50. There's not much difference between the favorite and the one which's at risk of not making the playoffs, is there? I don't think anyone is considering this option seriously, but PSG is under threat.
The situation of Real Madrid is somewhat unpredictable now. They could just lose the next match who knows and they could win. We are no much reliant on Real Madrid as a big team until they return to good form. And also the majority of their players need to be available for use. Ancelotti is gradually becoming frustrated and more frustration will come when the team don't win and also Mbappe doesn't score.
If Real Madrid doesn't qualify in the first spot, it will be ridiculous especially as they are the defending champions.
Real Madrid could win this match, but I think the chances are very small because Atalanta have performed well this season, they have managed to maintain their best performance in two different competitions (Serie A and UCL). Real Madrid biggest problem lies in their defensive area, conceding two goals against Liverpool will probably continue because Atalanta productivity is very good. Ancelotti certainly cannot be calm with the depth of the squad he currently has, facing a team like Atalanta certainly requires a complete squad and Ancelotti cannot field his best squad like when they beat Atalanta in the European Super Cup.
It's pay back time for Gian Piero Gasperini to Ancelotti on what Real Madrid did to Atalanta in European Super Cup. It's impossible for Ancelotti to escape this because he doesn't have his complete squad to dismantle Atalanta the second time. Real Madrid will try to play the best they can and if Atalanta win the game, Real Madrid should accept their fate because I don't think that any miracle will happen in this match as a surprise package to us. I give Atalanta all three points and will place my bet on them.

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December 01, 2024, 11:26:15 AM
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Atalanta will be a huge problem for Real Mardid.
As the things stays today Atalanta can easly face any team in the Champions League and have an opportunity to win.

I'm not crazy as today Atalanta can be one of the favorite for the final win.

In 5 months anything can change but TODAY they are not inferior to anyone.

In group stage, yeah. Atalanta have been doing an amazing work. They don't struggle to score and have a really strong defense at the same time. They are way better than Real Madrid in these statistics as well.  Smiley



Look at these odds. The gap is so close... I would even make a fun bet on Atalanta to win at these odds.  Grin  Real Madrid is dealing with many injuries including important names such as Vinicius Junior too. If he doesn't play in this one they would struggle in the attacking line just like they did against Liverpool.
Atalanta are in pretty good form in the Champions League and also in the domestic league in their meeting against Real Madrid might be a crucial match because they are facing the best club in the Champions League, well at least that was the previous seasons and for this season it is a little different because Real Madrid's condition is chaotic they don't seem to be favored for this season this club has experienced several defeats like losing hope to be able to advance to the next round.
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December 01, 2024, 11:42:50 AM
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Real Madrid could win this match, but I think the chances are very small because Atalanta have performed well this season, they have managed to maintain their best performance in two different competitions (Serie A and UCL). Real Madrid biggest problem lies in their defensive area, conceding two goals against Liverpool will probably continue because Atalanta productivity is very good. Ancelotti certainly cannot be calm with the depth of the squad he currently has, facing a team like Atalanta certainly requires a complete squad and Ancelotti cannot field his best squad like when they beat Atalanta in the European Super Cup.
Against Atalanta can indeed be a difficult match even for Real Madrid. because the consistency of Atalanta's performance this season really cannot be underestimated. In Serie A we also see Atalanta currently ranked 2nd. Which indicates that Atalanta's current quality is not much different from Inter Milan. So Real Madrid really has to prepare themselves better. And if Real Madrid only plays with the performance they did against Liverpool then I think Real Madrid could lose. Because yeah Real Madrid have too many gaps in their back line at the moment. But in the match against Atalanta, I hope Real Madrid can play better and I hope Ancelotti has succeeded in improving Real Madrid's weaknesses at the back.

 
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December 01, 2024, 12:05:12 PM
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Real Madrid could win this match, but I think the chances are very small because Atalanta have performed well this season, they have managed to maintain their best performance in two different competitions (Serie A and UCL). Real Madrid biggest problem lies in their defensive area, conceding two goals against Liverpool will probably continue because Atalanta productivity is very good. Ancelotti certainly cannot be calm with the depth of the squad he currently has, facing a team like Atalanta certainly requires a complete squad and Ancelotti cannot field his best squad like when they beat Atalanta in the European Super Cup.
In the Champions League, Atalanta is one of the undefeated teams, they have only drawn 2 of the 5 matches they have played and have won 3 times. That is a good statistic for them in the Champions League. Thus, Atalanta really cannot be underestimated at all by any team, including Real Madrid. Moreover, now Real Madrid is in an unstable state, they are still looking for their best form of play and they have also lost 3 of the 5 matches they have played. That shows that they have weaknesses that can be exploited by their opponents, including Atalanta.

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December 01, 2024, 12:17:26 PM
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Real Madrid could win this match, but I think the chances are very small because Atalanta have performed well this season, they have managed to maintain their best performance in two different competitions (Serie A and UCL). Real Madrid biggest problem lies in their defensive area, conceding two goals against Liverpool will probably continue because Atalanta productivity is very good. Ancelotti certainly cannot be calm with the depth of the squad he currently has, facing a team like Atalanta certainly requires a complete squad and Ancelotti cannot field his best squad like when they beat Atalanta in the European Super Cup.
I'm a passionate Real Madrid fan who believes so much on the team and the abilities of the club manager Carlo Ancelotti but considering the number first team players of the club that are currently sidelined through injury, it's very difficult to still maintain that belief at the moment. Against Atalanta, Real Madrid will be the away team and considering how impressive the Bergamo based club have been this season, it'll be a very difficult game for Real Madrid to win.
That being said, I believe some of the club's star players like Vinicius Jr will be back to action before that game so it's very possible that Real Madrid can still get all three points from that game

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December 01, 2024, 12:30:53 PM
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Real Madrid could win this match, but I think the chances are very small because Atalanta have performed well this season, they have managed to maintain their best performance in two different competitions (Serie A and UCL). Real Madrid biggest problem lies in their defensive area, conceding two goals against Liverpool will probably continue because Atalanta productivity is very good. Ancelotti certainly cannot be calm with the depth of the squad he currently has, facing a team like Atalanta certainly requires a complete squad and Ancelotti cannot field his best squad like when they beat Atalanta in the European Super Cup.
Seeing Atlanta playing from home is enough to make me believe and think that they have got a chance at Madrid but i still don't find that conviction just yet even with their performance just yet because i still believe Madrid has got that experience and a different kind of tactical approach with which they handle fixtures as this though their performance has been poor recently but its not enough to just think they aren't go to probably do different with this game.

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December 01, 2024, 12:36:06 PM
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In the Champions League, Atalanta is one of the undefeated teams, they have only drawn 2 of the 5 matches they have played and have won 3 times. That is a good statistic for them in the Champions League. Thus, Atalanta really cannot be underestimated at all by any team, including Real Madrid. Moreover, now Real Madrid is in an unstable state, they are still looking for their best form of play and they have also lost 3 of the 5 matches they have played. That shows that they have weaknesses that can be exploited by their opponents, including Atalanta.
Atalanta has continued to show stability in their game since last season. And we even have to remember that last season it was Atalanta who managed to beat Liverpool in the European League which made Liverpool eliminated from the European League last season. And Atalanta was finally able to win the title in the European League last season. And this season Atalanta still looks as stable and solid as last season. And Atalanta was also able to achieve good results both in Serie A and in the UCL. So Atalanta cannot be underestimated.

Real Madrid is a very strong team when they are at their best. But unfortunately Real Madrid this season does not appear to be at their best. So we can no longer even bet with much confidence on Real Madrid. We always feel there are doubts about every match that Real Madrid will play against whoever the opponent is. Moreover, the next match against Atalanta will definitely be a fierce match. Maybe we should first assess Real Madrid in Laliga in a few games before the next UCL game. And today Real Madrid will face Getafe. And I'm curious what the results will be.

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It's pay back time for Gian Piero Gasperini to Ancelotti on what Real Madrid did to Atalanta in European Super Cup. It's impossible for Ancelotti to escape this because he doesn't have his complete squad to dismantle Atalanta the second time. Real Madrid will try to play the best they can and if Atalanta win the game, Real Madrid should accept their fate because I don't think that any miracle will happen in this match as a surprise package to us. I give Atalanta all three points and will place my bet on them.
Atalanta are currently in second place in the Serie A standings and their striker Mateo Retegui is on fire because he is the top scorer in Serie A. After the shocking defeat from AC Milan I think Atalanta have a greater chance of winning the match. They are in fifth place in the UCL standings and are almost certain to advance to the next round. Of course they are motivated to win the match after getting defeated in the European Super Cup. Real Madrid are in a bad situation because some of their players are injured. Éder Militão is certain not to play this season. And that has given a big gap in their defense. It seems that it will be difficult for Real Madrid to defend the UCL title this season.

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In the Champions League, Atalanta is one of the undefeated teams, they have only drawn 2 of the 5 matches they have played and have won 3 times. That is a good statistic for them in the Champions League. Thus, Atalanta really cannot be underestimated at all by any team, including Real Madrid. Moreover, now Real Madrid is in an unstable state, they are still looking for their best form of play and they have also lost 3 of the 5 matches they have played. That shows that they have weaknesses that can be exploited by their opponents, including Atalanta.
Atalanta has continued to show stability in their game since last season. And we even have to remember that last season it was Atalanta who managed to beat Liverpool in the European League which made Liverpool eliminated from the European League last season. And Atalanta was finally able to win the title in the European League last season. And this season Atalanta still looks as stable and solid as last season. And Atalanta was also able to achieve good results both in Serie A and in the UCL. So Atalanta cannot be underestimated.

Real Madrid is a very strong team when they are at their best. But unfortunately Real Madrid this season does not appear to be at their best. So we can no longer even bet with much confidence on Real Madrid. We always feel there are doubts about every match that Real Madrid will play against whoever the opponent is. Moreover, the next match against Atalanta will definitely be a fierce match. Maybe we should first assess Real Madrid in Laliga in a few games before the next UCL game. And today Real Madrid will face Getafe. And I'm curious what the results will be.

Atalanta made just its second appearance in the Champions League when the 2019-2020 competition got underway on the continent. Yet, for that relatively limited experience at the highest level of the game in Europe, it proved itself right away to be a very tough side. It remarkably made its way to the quarter-finals during its debut season—a relatively rare feat for a newcomer side.

Last season, Atalanta's performance in the Europa League confirmed further their status as one of the fastest-growing teams in Europe. They were not afraid to face big teams, as their Europa League title proved. The elite position among the clubs is what they can claim right now.

In any case, the Champions League is indeed a much more difficult challenge. Atalanta will meet opponents with  so much experience and history, such as Real Madrid. However, it is their attacking football, plus how well they have done in Italy and Europe, makes them a real threat to big European teams.

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December 01, 2024, 01:10:10 PM
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Atalanta are currently in second place in the Serie A standings and their striker Mateo Retegui is on fire because he is the top scorer in Serie A. After the shocking defeat from AC Milan I think Atalanta have a greater chance of winning the match. They are in fifth place in the UCL standings and are almost certain to advance to the next round. Of course they are motivated to win the match after getting defeated in the European Super Cup. Real Madrid are in a bad situation because some of their players are injured. Éder Militão is certain not to play this season. And that has given a big gap in their defense. It seems that it will be difficult for Real Madrid to defend the UCL title this season.
In addition to it being difficult for Real Madrid to defend the Champions League title this season again, when they face Atalanta in the next match which will take place at Atalanta's home ground, it will also make it difficult for Real Madrid to win easily in that match. But if Atalanta are unable to win their home game, I would even consider it a surprise for Real Madrid who are currently not in a good condition and are still in a very bad position in the Champions League at the moment.
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December 01, 2024, 01:13:01 PM
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Barcelona's efficiency has been enormous and I think the most impressive demonstration was in the game against Bayern. That was straight from the textbook how they let Bayern play their game and then within a blink of an eye strike back and score. End result was 4-0 for Barcelona and all the counter attacks have been played from beginning to finish with highest precision and preparation and zero nervousness.

We can say that it is Hansi Flick effect.  Wink  Being the top scorer team is really promising for later stages in the Champions League. I can say they have been decent in defense at the same time with only 5 goals conceded.

That destruction against Bayern Munich was something else... It was like a revenge after all those horrible results against them you know.

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I think Dortmund is surprising since they are high in both possession and accuracy. I thought they would be in the top 6 in both of those rankings, but one reason is probably that they didn't have the strongest opponents except for Real Madrid.

Dortmund have been doing this for 2 years. They have been doing much better in the Champions League compared to the Bundesliga. I really wonder what their secret is.  Smiley  One should never underestimate them these days especially after seeing them in the Champions League finale last season.

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December 01, 2024, 03:11:37 PM
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Atalanta are currently in second place in the Serie A standings and their striker Mateo Retegui is on fire because he is the top scorer in Serie A. After the shocking defeat from AC Milan I think Atalanta have a greater chance of winning the match. They are in fifth place in the UCL standings and are almost certain to advance to the next round. Of course they are motivated to win the match after getting defeated in the European Super Cup. Real Madrid are in a bad situation because some of their players are injured. Éder Militão is certain not to play this season. And that has given a big gap in their defense. It seems that it will be difficult for Real Madrid to defend the UCL title this season.
In addition to it being difficult for Real Madrid to defend the Champions League title this season again, when they face Atalanta in the next match which will take place at Atalanta's home ground, it will also make it difficult for Real Madrid to win easily in that match. But if Atalanta are unable to win their home game, I would even consider it a surprise for Real Madrid who are currently not in a good condition and are still in a very bad position in the Champions League at the moment.
Against Atalanta will be crucial match for Madrid for their chances of qualifying for the next round, but the Atalanta that Madrid will face later will not be the Atalanta they defeated in the European Super Cup at the beginning of last season considering their very good performance at the moment, Although they has lost scamacca due to injury but Retegui managed to take on the role of spearhead of Atalanta with his sharp,  Madrid, who are currently being hit by injuries, must try their best in the match, because after all, the defeat from Atalanta will only make them even worse in the UCL, 3 points must be obtained by Madrid if they really want to keep their chances of qualifying this season to the next round although it may be very difficult.
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December 01, 2024, 03:31:47 PM
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It's pay back time for Gian Piero Gasperini to Ancelotti on what Real Madrid did to Atalanta in European Super Cup. It's impossible for Ancelotti to escape this because he doesn't have his complete squad to dismantle Atalanta the second time. Real Madrid will try to play the best they can and if Atalanta win the game, Real Madrid should accept their fate because I don't think that any miracle will happen in this match as a surprise package to us. I give Atalanta all three points and will place my bet on them.
If I were a Real Madrid fan, I would bet on Atalanta to win this match. I don't want to be selfish and hold on to something that is hard to hold on to, it's better to let it go temporarily to gain an advantage in this match.
On paper, Atalanta is the favorite team because Ancelotti cannot field his best squad in this match, while Atalanta does not have any problems in their squad and they are undefeated in the 5 games that have been played. Gian Piero Gasperini has prepared everything ahead of this game, yes, it's time for Atalanta to avenge their defeat in the European Super Cup.

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If I were a Real Madrid fan, I would bet on Atalanta to win this match. I don't want to be selfish and hold on to something that is hard to hold on to, it's better to let it go temporarily to gain an advantage in this match.
On paper, Atalanta is the favorite team because Ancelotti cannot field his best squad in this match, while Atalanta does not have any problems in their squad and they are undefeated in the 5 games that have been played. Gian Piero Gasperini has prepared everything ahead of this game, yes, it's time for Atalanta to avenge their defeat in the European Super Cup.
In addition, Ancelotti himself is also quite aware that his team currently cannot field their best players so he will also have difficulty determining what strategy to use in the match. Because in the Champions League, any team that will be faced must always be taken seriously because here all the team's abilities will be brought down by their respective coaches. And from what you said it also makes sense, but some Real Madrid fans will still support Real Madrid even though they might be very afraid to place their bets on Real Madrid.

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If I were a Real Madrid fan, I would bet on Atalanta to win this match. I don't want to be selfish and hold on to something that is hard to hold on to, it's better to let it go temporarily to gain an advantage in this match.
On paper, Atalanta is the favorite team because Ancelotti cannot field his best squad in this match, while Atalanta does not have any problems in their squad and they are undefeated in the 5 games that have been played. Gian Piero Gasperini has prepared everything ahead of this game, yes, it's time for Atalanta to avenge their defeat in the European Super Cup.

I don't see the logic in this. Atalanta are doing well but Real are doing well too (first place in La Liga). Real will be much more motivated in this game as they need to get 6 points in their remaining 3 games, while Atalanta have almost secured the top 24 and have a great chance of the top 8. I don't think Atalanta will have much of a chance in this game. But you can certainly bet if the odds are attractive.

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December 01, 2024, 05:49:55 PM
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I don't see the logic in this. Atalanta are doing well but Real are doing well too (first place in La Liga). Real will be much more motivated in this game as they need to get 6 points in their remaining 3 games, while Atalanta have almost secured the top 24 and have a great chance of the top 8. I don't think Atalanta will have much of a chance in this game. But you can certainly bet if the odds are attractive.

Real madrid are not first place currently in La Liga,  they’re second place behind Barcelona with noel more game yet to be played and if they win successfully,  they'll be sitting comfortably on the top.
I will be rooting for Real Madrid once more for the last time regardless of the fact that they have lost the games against Liverpool,  Ac Milan and Lille. They have won Atalanta earlier this season and I'm certain thus would be yet another win for them

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December 01, 2024, 05:59:53 PM
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I don't see the logic in this. Atalanta are doing well but Real are doing well too (first place in La Liga). Real will be much more motivated in this game as they need to get 6 points in their remaining 3 games, while Atalanta have almost secured the top 24 and have a great chance of the top 8. I don't think Atalanta will have much of a chance in this game. But you can certainly bet if the odds are attractive.

Real madrid are not first place currently in La Liga,  they’re second place behind Barcelona with noel more game yet to be played and if they win successfully,  they'll be sitting comfortably on the top.
I will be rooting for Real Madrid once more for the last time regardless of the fact that they have lost the games against Liverpool,  Ac Milan and Lille. They have won Atalanta earlier this season and I'm certain thus would be yet another win for them

Basically, Real Madrid will always have a good chance in every match, because Real Madrid is a team that is always a serious threat to other teams. Just think about it, eventhough Real Madrid is currently 24th and Atalanta is 5th and also, even though Real Madrid will be playing away, but Real Madrid is still the favorite team based on the odds available at the  moment.

Here are the odds, Atalanta @2.63 and Real Madrid @2.50,  although the gap between the odds is not much  different, but considering Real Madrid's results and position in the Champions League, Atalanta should definitely win. But anyway, the reality is not the case, because Real Madrid is the king of Europe, so Real Madrid will always have a chance eventhough their trend so far  in the Champions League can still be said to be bad.
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December 01, 2024, 06:00:03 PM
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At the moment, the odds of Liverpool, which are leading with a 100% result and winning a head-to-head meeting with Real, are estimated at 5.50 (Liverpool is the favorite for the title according to bookmakers), and the odds of Real are estimated at 7.50. There's not much difference between the favorite and the one which's at risk of not making the playoffs, is there? I don't think anyone is considering this option seriously, but PSG is under threat.
The situation of Real Madrid is somewhat unpredictable now. They could just lose the next match who knows and they could win. We are no much reliant on Real Madrid as a big team until they return to good form. And also the majority of their players need to be available for use. Ancelotti is gradually becoming frustrated and more frustration will come when the team don't win and also Mbappe doesn't score.
If Real Madrid doesn't qualify in the first spot, it will be ridiculous especially as they are the defending champions.
Real Madrid could win this match, but I think the chances are very small because Atalanta have performed well this season, they have managed to maintain their best performance in two different competitions (Serie A and UCL). Real Madrid biggest problem lies in their defensive area, conceding two goals against Liverpool will probably continue because Atalanta productivity is very good. Ancelotti certainly cannot be calm with the depth of the squad he currently has, facing a team like Atalanta certainly requires a complete squad and Ancelotti cannot field his best squad like when they beat Atalanta in the European Super Cup.

This should be more like a revenge time for Atalanta after beaten by Real Madrid in the Super Cup final. This is a very good opportunity for them to get three points in the champions league competition seeing the current state of Real Madrid in the competition. Atalanta are actually doing better than them now and having them play now is a good opportunity for them if they’re able to utilize it well. What then baffles me is the probability of what will become of Real Madrid if they lost this match again out of the three matches left seeing the position they’re currently in the the champions league standings.

What if they were able to draw the match since Atalanta are the better team here but Real Madrid will play better to secure at least a draw to keep their hope alive of making it to the next round of the champions league competition. Ancelotti have tried to revive this team in order to have a strong quality and strength when they play since many of their players are injured, but it seems their hope of making it possible is dying off as they are not seeing any progress despite all the hard work. I know it’s not too late for them to change the situation in the competition now, but they’ll need a much more better quality than what they’re showcasing now if they really want to make it, Atalanta won’t take it lightly with them.

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December 01, 2024, 06:19:59 PM
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Real Madrid could win this match, but I think the chances are very small because Atalanta have performed well this season, they have managed to maintain their best performance in two different competitions (Serie A and UCL). Real Madrid biggest problem lies in their defensive area, conceding two goals against Liverpool will probably continue because Atalanta productivity is very good. Ancelotti certainly cannot be calm with the depth of the squad he currently has, facing a team like Atalanta certainly requires a complete squad and Ancelotti cannot field his best squad like when they beat Atalanta in the European Super Cup.

IMO, not only in defense but also in midfield after Kroos retired, while Modric's performance is not like when he was still in his prime. The situation is certainly not ideal, but it must be a concern and focus for Ancelotti's homework. This match will be very important for Madrid, they must bring home full points after losing in the previous two matches in the UCL. In addition, I am sure Ancelotti will not underestimate his opponent, especially with some of the problems that Real Madrid is experiencing. This match will be an interesting match, both teams will want full points. Especially for Atalanta who acted as the host team, the defeat in the European Super Cup could be a strong motivation to win the match in the UCL. However, it is not easy to defeat a team at the level of Real Madrid, even though they are being hit by injured players. What is certain is that the meeting of these two teams in the 6th session will provide great appeal for football lovers.

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