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August 30, 2024, 03:20:09 PM
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Definitely a good thing that we are going to get some big teams playing against each other, it became a little bit boring when we are talking about something bigger, it wasn't something that we can agree with that easily, it is not going to be a fine situation and we need to do better.

Think about it, we have seen big clubs just destroy the smaller clubs in groups so far, which didn't make that much good tv, we still watched it, but I bet that when these big clubs play each other, there will be a lot more people tuning in. That means bigger audience, that means bigger tv rights deal, that means more tickets (or more expensive at least) and that means more merch sales for teams too.

These all point to making more money for every team and that is why I enjoy this new group stage system. Plus, you get to play two more extra games on top of all that, which means a lot more money too, and every team that joins this group stage, will make a lot of money and will do just fine.
The part where we are going to see big teams going against each other in the first round of the UEFA Champions League is actually what makes the new format very interesting if you ask me. The first time I saw how the new format, I was displeased with it as I thought it'll make the competition boring but considering the fact that we're now going to watch more matches as well see big teams clash against other big teams in the first round, I think we're likely to love the new format than the former.
As a Real Madrid fan, seeing that my club will have to play against big teams like Liverpool, AC Milan and even our last season UEFA Champions League final opponents Borussia Dortmund in the first round of the competition makes it more interesting

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August 30, 2024, 03:29:47 PM
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That is why this season teams with good squad depth will benefit because they will be able to rotate and maintain their performance. With the new format of UCL this season, the match schedule will be even denser, especially for clubs from England. This will make players vulnerable to injury and fatigue, making it difficult to show their best performance. Player rotation will be a very important thing that can determine the course of the match.
Player rotation is indeed important for every team, but the coaches of big teams such as the coaches of teams in the Premier League and also in the Spanish League must have prepared to welcome the new format this season so that they will continue to do their best even though it will be a bit different from last season because now each team must be able to adjust to a different format. But the big teams that already have strength through their mainstay players will still be good teams because they will not be weak just because of the new format this season.

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August 30, 2024, 03:29:51 PM
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The part where we are going to see big teams going against each other in the first round of the UEFA Champions League is actually what makes the new format very interesting if you ask me. The first time I saw how the new format, I was displeased with it as I thought it'll make the competition boring but considering the fact that we're now going to watch more matches as well see big teams clash against other big teams in the first round, I think we're likely to love the new format than the former.
As a Real Madrid fan, seeing that my club will have to play against big teams like Liverpool, AC Milan and even our last season UEFA Champions League final opponents Borussia Dortmund in the first round of the competition makes it more interesting
Each user has different assumptions and points of view regarding changes to the new format in the Champions League. I personally don't mind that because then I'll have more good matches to look forward to. The consequence of changing the Champions League format is basically about increasing the number of matches, to be precise 2 matches in the initial round because each team will play against 8 different teams.

Over time, this new format will become commonplace and everyone will get used to watching their favorite team play 12 matches if they qualify for the final. This is especially fun for big games, but games involving non-favorite teams are likely to be missed.

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August 30, 2024, 03:33:34 PM
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Regardless of the new or old format, this certainly makes all teams have to maximize opportunities and minimize 1 match not to lose. What is clear is that the schedule is getting tighter, all players will be drained of energy. The slightest injury can have a big impact on the club's status for the next match.
Squad depth and quality will be a key factor in this new format of the competition because to avoid the tired legs and fatigue of players, coaches will need to involve in massive team rotation, and in this category is where teams like real Madrid, Barcelona and Manchester city that have very good squad depth and quality players both on and off to pitch will thrive. The competition will be more competitive this time around and all coaches will be gearing up for it already.

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August 30, 2024, 03:52:31 PM
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Over time, this new format will become commonplace and everyone will get used to watching their favorite team play 12 matches if they qualify for the final.
12 matches? No, they will play more matches.

Teams that finish the league phase in 1st to 8th place and qualify for the final match play 15 matches in total.
Teams that finish the league phase in 9th to 24th place and qualify for the final match play 17 matches in total.

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August 30, 2024, 04:03:59 PM
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First of all it is a visual pollution in image, just too many matches.  Tongue  The look of the group stage was much tidier but anyway... I'm just waiting for the matches now.

I think PSG have a really tough fixture ahead of them. Just look at it below.



Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid and Arsenal... 2 of them are away matches as well. This is where we are about to find out how strong PSG is after Mbappe. Yes, they have started the Ligue 1 impressively but we haven't seen the current lineup playing in a big match yet.

Fixtures aren't ready yet as far as I can see. Imagine PSG hosting Manchester City at the beginning already.  Grin
Well that's what I think too, because when I saw the draw results at first I felt quite dizzy when I saw it and I agree with you that it looked neater when it was still using the old format. However, this is part of the adjustment because we are not used to seeing the new format that is being implemented now. What is interesting is when we see that there will be many matches that bring together big clubs in the first phase, unlike before where there were only 2 or at most 3 big clubs that met each other in the group stage. Now we will be presented with big matches, that's what I think will be fun. And the other is where they can't take revenge because they will only meet once.  Grin

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August 30, 2024, 04:05:53 PM
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Regardless of the new or old format, this certainly makes all teams have to maximize opportunities and minimize 1 match not to lose. What is clear is that the schedule is getting tighter, all players will be drained of energy. The slightest injury can have a big impact on the club's status for the next match.
Squad depth and quality will be a key factor in this new format of the competition because to avoid the tired legs and fatigue of players, coaches will need to involve in massive team rotation, and in this category is where teams like real Madrid, Barcelona and Manchester city that have very good squad depth and quality players both on and off to pitch will thrive. The competition will be more competitive this time around and all coaches will be gearing up for it already.

I can't say what can happen in a new format but my initial estimate that every club that will compete will be very challenged.
I also estimate that well-known clubs and clubs that are considered ordinary will try their best with all the situations they will experience later. If the player's material prepared is not optimal, of course they will surrender. Interesting to immediately look forward to the Champions League in this new format.

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August 30, 2024, 04:08:45 PM
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Regardless of the new or old format, this certainly makes all teams have to maximize opportunities and minimize 1 match not to lose. What is clear is that the schedule is getting tighter, all players will be drained of energy. The slightest injury can have a big impact on the club's status for the next match.
Squad depth and quality will be a key factor in this new format of the competition because to avoid the tired legs and fatigue of players, coaches will need to involve in massive team rotation, and in this category is where teams like real Madrid, Barcelona and Manchester city that have very good squad depth and quality players both on and off to pitch will thrive. The competition will be more competitive this time around and all coaches will be gearing up for it already.
it'sa good one that we will see more of player rotation happening in teams and not the usual case where you want to feature only few players and leave others to while away thier precious time on the bench. If you don't want to adapt to this change and work on creating a sort of team A and B that will serve as backup team should you encounter some fatigue along the way, you will suffer the most.

I also like the fact that the 8 teams you're playing, you can only play four In your home ground and play the remaining four away from home and not the usual case where you have to play 16 matches both home and away all combined. These changes will not favour sole teams at the moment most expecially those that can't stand the heat and will have to fall into the category of people that will involve in the play off. It's going to look a bit exhausting for some but somewhere along the way all the teams will certainly adopt to these new changes.

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August 30, 2024, 04:17:51 PM
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And with this format will add to the increasingly dense game schedule which in previous seasons only played 6 matches for the group phase now they have to play 8 matches for each pot 1,2,3 and 4
16 out of the 36 teams will have to play 10 matches (4 matches more than the old format).
Teams finishing the league phase in 9th to 24th place will play two more games in the play-off round to advance to the round of 16.
The competition for a place in the top eight of the standings will be very tight, because each contestant wants to avoid more matches to be able to advance to the round of 16. I predict that ranks 1 to 8 will be occupied by elite teams, who have better reputations and squad depth than other contestants. In addition, another tense competition will be presented in the play-off round (9 to rank 24), because in addition to winning a place in the round of 16, those who are eliminated will no longer be eliminated to the Europa League like last season. Indeed, several teams have criticism the change in format, because of the reason for the more match schedule.

I think regardless of the format changes, the Champions League will still offer something very interesting as the most prestigious competition in Europe. UEFA tries to accommodate and provide more opportunities for each team from various Leagues. We know that increasing the number of matches will bring more benefits, and of course each team will also benefit from a financial perspective. Let's see how the Champions League goes this season, I predict there will be many surprises.

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August 30, 2024, 04:22:52 PM
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First of all it is a visual pollution in image, just too many matches.  Tongue  The look of the group stage was much tidier but anyway... I'm just waiting for the matches now.

I think PSG have a really tough fixture ahead of them. Just look at it below.



Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid and Arsenal... 2 of them are away matches as well. This is where we are about to find out how strong PSG is after Mbappe. Yes, they have started the Ligue 1 impressively but we haven't seen the current lineup playing in a big match yet.

Fixtures aren't ready yet as far as I can see. Imagine PSG hosting Manchester City at the beginning already.  Grin
Well that's what I think too, because when I saw the draw results at first I felt quite dizzy when I saw it and I agree with you that it looked neater when it was still using the old format. However, this is part of the adjustment because we are not used to seeing the new format that is being implemented now. What is interesting is when we see that there will be many matches that bring together big clubs in the first phase, unlike before where there were only 2 or at most 3 big clubs that met each other in the group stage. Now we will be presented with big matches, that's what I think will be fun. And the other is where they can't take revenge because they will only meet once.  Grin
The new form of the Champions League allows us to see many bigmatches happen early, but it seems that with the big teams meeting too quickly of course no longer promising that there will be excitement in the round of 16 later, after seeing the results of the drawing that was done yesterday, actually I am still a little confused about the classification of a team that gets home and away status,  previously I thought that a team like Arsenal would face PSG twice as we have been used to seeing home and away matches, but after I read your post I actually began to understand that actually each team will only play against one team once in this league phase, but for now what is still confusing to me is,  How many teams in each phase of the league are entitled to qualify for the next round, is it 1,2 or 3, like as determining the position of the teams  that are entitled to qualify for the Champions League zone in the domestic league?

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August 30, 2024, 04:26:01 PM
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Over time, this new format will become commonplace and everyone will get used to watching their favorite team play 12 matches if they qualify for the final. This is especially fun for big games, but games involving non-favorite teams are likely to be missed.
More than 12 matches, in the first phase they will play 8 matches, in the knock out round until the final they will play 7 matches, meaning a total of 15 matches that they play, that is if they can successfully qualify for the knock out round without having to go through the play off round. If they have to go through the play off round first then it will add 2 matches, that becomes 17 matches that they will play. In the previous format previously we only saw 13 matches from the group stage to the final. It looks like it only added 2 or 4 more, but it has a big impact in my opinion. Because the schedule will be denser and they have to start adjusting to it. and not only that, because we will see many big matches even in the early phase or this league phase, it will drain their energy more.

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August 30, 2024, 04:54:22 PM
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Regardless of the new or old format, this certainly makes all teams have to maximize opportunities and minimize 1 match not to lose. What is clear is that the schedule is getting tighter, all players will be drained of energy. The slightest injury can have a big impact on the club's status for the next match.
Squad depth and quality will be a key factor in this new format of the competition because to avoid the tired legs and fatigue of players, coaches will need to involve in massive team rotation, and in this category is where teams like real Madrid, Barcelona and Manchester city that have very good squad depth and quality players both on and off to pitch will thrive. The competition will be more competitive this time around and all coaches will be gearing up for it already.

There is some truth to it, perhaps with a new format like this it could provide a chance for other teams to win trophies, and not just about Real Madrid. It is certainly interesting and it is just that, perhaps we also need to adjust to this new format, which also seems to force each team to be able to maximize every match they play, not only relying on aggregate wins and or not relying on chances when playing at home and away. But indeed, the point would be better to be able to provide a chance for other teams or non-seeded teams to be able to have a chance to win trophies.

But even so, basically I also still believe, whatever format is applied, of course only top teams still have a chance to win trophies. But maybe, related to the top teams I mean is not only about Manchester City and Real Madrid,  because of course there are still other top teams that might have a better chance this season such as Juventus, Arsenal or maybe Liverpool and there are still several other top teams that are expected to win the Champions League trophy.

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That is why this season teams with good squad depth will benefit because they will be able to rotate and maintain their performance. With the new format of UCL this season, the match schedule will be even denser, especially for clubs from England. This will make players vulnerable to injury and fatigue, making it difficult to show their best performance. Player rotation will be a very important thing that can determine the course of the match.
Player rotation is indeed important for every team, but the coaches of big teams such as the coaches of teams in the Premier League and also in the Spanish League must have prepared to welcome the new format this season so that they will continue to do their best even though it will be a bit different from last season because now each team must be able to adjust to a different format. But the big teams that already have strength through their mainstay players will still be good teams because they will not be weak just because of the new format this season.
Just like what Real Madrid did in this summer to brought in some good players that will add value to the team in this tournament, because their coach understand the system very well but there are some coaches that will feel comfortable with their old players without signing in new players just because they have won the trophy and they can still use the old players win this trophy. I have seen some signs early this season about some small teams that will surprise people in this tournament, because their coach has worked on them to challenge some strong teams like Manchester city, Arsenal, Real Madrid and Liverpool in this tournament.

With what happened to Real Madrid yesterday to draw the game with their opponent 1:1, it will make this UEFA champion league hard for them to win in this season.

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August 30, 2024, 05:12:42 PM
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League phase finally starts as of September 17.  Roll Eyes  Let's have a look at what the biggest title contenders are doing recently.

Real Madrid couldn't make a good start. 2 draws in the La Liga already against very weak teams like Mallorca and Las Palmas... They still don't look ready for this season.  Sad  But as we are still talking about Ancelotti's Real Madrid, we never know. He is a mastermind. For example they weren't playing incredible here last season but Ancelotti still found a way to win that trophy.

Manchester City... They look just fine. Guardiola's system works like clockwork in the PL as always. Seeing them in the Champions League finale wouldn't be any surprise.

Arsenal are favoured even more than Bayern Munich. But I didn't like them in the CL last season. I don't see it the same way.
Usually bookies are having their own method of bringing teams as hot favourite if someone is not agreed with this it's never been issue we all know about the strength of these teams and POS and NEG as well so we can put them on better place instead of these bookies those are having usually trap odds for the peoples.

But here we have to understand few things as I agreed Real Madrid is having not good start of their new season and Mbappé is also failed to score any goal after three games which is surely strange, and Manchester City is still one of the best side in UEFA this is also fact, but I am surprised as we are missing few teams which are having better depth then Bayern Munich and Arsenal in this season.

After few games we will be having understanding of these teams about their chances in this season even I have strong feeling mostly usual teams will be able to have spots int next round because we are having good difference of quality between these teams.

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August 30, 2024, 05:41:25 PM
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Just like what Real Madrid did in this summer to brought in some good players that will add value to the team in this tournament, because their coach understand the system very well but there are some coaches that will feel comfortable with their old players without signing in new players just because they have won the trophy and they can still use the old players win this trophy. I have seen some signs early this season about some small teams that will surprise people in this tournament, because their coach has worked on them to challenge some strong teams like Manchester city, Arsenal, Real Madrid and Liverpool in this tournament.
Real Madrid have good winning records in the Champions League, they do always stand out in the Champions League’s games even if they are not in good form in their domestic league (Laliga).

This season’s Champions League comes with different format, it will be new to us all, but I think it is a good development to the Champions League organizers even though I don’t know how they come about these team pairings, but it is tough for almost all the groups and many big teams will face themselves and any team wining the Champions League this season will be indeed be a better team.

Manchester City, Arsenal, Bayern Munich, Liverpool, and Leverkusen might standout again this season same as Barcelona too; it will be tough even if Madrid will win the Champions League.


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With what happened to Real Madrid yesterday to draw the game with their opponent 1:1, it will make this UEFA champion league hard for them to win in this season.

I was surprised with the result because they are still playing against small teams in the Laliga, they haven’t started playing against the big teams; if they keep dropping points like this, wining the Bundesliga will be for Barcelona.

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August 30, 2024, 05:47:02 PM
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Definitely a good thing that we are going to get some big teams playing against each other, it became a little bit boring when we are talking about something bigger, it wasn't something that we can agree with that easily, it is not going to be a fine situation and we need to do better.
Think about it, we have seen big clubs just destroy the smaller clubs in groups so far, which didn't make that much good tv, we still watched it, but I bet that when these big clubs play each other, there will be a lot more people tuning in. That means bigger audience, that means bigger tv rights deal, that means more tickets (or more expensive at least) and that means more merch sales for teams too.
These all point to making more money for every team and that is why I enjoy this new group stage system. Plus, you get to play two more extra games on top of all that, which means a lot more money too, and every team that joins this group stage, will make a lot of money and will do just fine.
The part where we are going to see big teams going against each other in the first round of the UEFA Champions League is actually what makes the new format very interesting if you ask me. The first time I saw how the new format, I was displeased with it as I thought it'll make the competition boring but considering the fact that we're now going to watch more matches as well see big teams clash against other big teams in the first round, I think we're likely to love the new format than the former.
As a Real Madrid fan, seeing that my club will have to play against big teams like Liverpool, AC Milan and even our last season UEFA Champions League final opponents Borussia Dortmund in the first round of the competition makes it more interesting

The new Champions League system looks a bit messy, with a bit too many games, yes we fans love watching high-voltage matches, and UCL games under the lights but the players will go through tough times to keep up with tight schedules, as there are extra games now.

More money, more games. I think that is the simple explanation of the whole new system. This will drain the players more, but I think this ensures more business. Bigger clubs will always have an advantage though, for having enough squad depth that most lower teams won't have.

But this season should be exciting, starting of a new era of UCL.

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The new Champions League system looks a bit messy, with a bit too many games, yes we fans love watching high-voltage matches, and UCL games under the lights but the players will go through tough times to keep up with tight schedules, as there are extra games now.

More money, more games. I think that is the simple explanation of the whole new system. This will drain the players more, but I think this ensures more business. Bigger clubs will always have an advantage though, for having enough squad depth that most lower teams won't have.

But this season should be exciting, starting of a new era of UCL.

It does look messy and not to forget that I am sure everyone remembers how one was looking forward to the final Champions League rounds because it was something special. I admit that sometimes the pre-round was a bit boring, but still everyone was enjoying the final round. Now it is so packed and I wonder how many subscriptions you need in order to be able to watch all the games you want.

It has been the same with the UEFA Nations League back at the time. Big names, but not really big games... All these top teams like France, England etc. they didn't play very well in that competition. It was as if they didn't care sometimes and I can understand that. Their focus are the tournaments like World Cup and Copa America and European Championship and the other continental competitions, but nobody really cared about the Nations League.

That is why I think having these top games from the first day into the competition is not what I deem to be the perfect approach. It was great to see big teams get into trouble during the group stage because the underdogs caused them some huge problems. I think they argue that some of the weaker teams should have a chance, too, but so far I think it was already the case that some of the underdogs were in the final rounds. But now it is what it is.

I am asking myself how people manage their lives when they are basketball, ice hockey and football fans. Watch a few hundred games per year! Cheesy

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Just like what Real Madrid did in this summer to brought in some good players that will add value to the team in this tournament, because their coach understand the system very well but there are some coaches that will feel comfortable with their old players without signing in new players just because they have won the trophy and they can still use the old players win this trophy. I have seen some signs early this season about some small teams that will surprise people in this tournament, because their coach has worked on them to challenge some strong teams like Manchester city, Arsenal, Real Madrid and Liverpool in this tournament.

With what happened to Real Madrid yesterday to draw the game with their opponent 1:1, it will make this UEFA champion league hard for them to win in this season.

Sure. I just feel like Ancelloti knows very well that every team, both big and small, will be ready for this season, and that is why he quickly took some necessary action to make Real Madrid stronger. Clubs have started showing how good and strong they will be performing in this season. I feel like even the big teams we are expecting to easily top the league will find it challenging to do that this time.

Moreover, at first I was expecting Real Madrid to be at the top of the league at a very early stage of the season, but I’m still yet to see their progress this season. 

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August 30, 2024, 07:34:10 PM
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That is why this season teams with good squad depth will benefit because they will be able to rotate and maintain their performance. With the new format of UCL this season, the match schedule will be even denser, especially for clubs from England. This will make players vulnerable to injury and fatigue, making it difficult to show their best performance. Player rotation will be a very important thing that can determine the course of the match.
Player rotation is indeed important for every team, but the coaches of big teams such as the coaches of teams in the Premier League and also in the Spanish League must have prepared to welcome the new format this season so that they will continue to do their best even though it will be a bit different from last season because now each team must be able to adjust to a different format. But the big teams that already have strength through their mainstay players will still be good teams because they will not be weak just because of the new format this season.

Exactly, this new format will still favour the big teams and the smaller teams won’t be able to achieve from this format. Players in big team are already built through vigorous training, so going through the long process of the champions league won’t be too much on them, they can play long and can also easily rotate their players with competent players still on bench to take on when the main players are out tired or injured or fatigued. Many teams are already preparing for this and it’s good they started early so that they can get to adopt easily to the new format. This is going to be an interesting champions league, the one that we haven’t experienced before.

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Obviously Lille won in the end, this match was easy to predict, it's no coincidence that the bookmakers obviously gave Lille the win. I included this game in a multiple just to increase the multiplier a little. Unfortunately I thought they would win away from home too, it was very close if you want, 2-1 and Lille risked winning again.
To be fair Prague played as good as they possibly could, and even won the game itself, and they lost only because of the aggregate, which is why Lille will be going to UCL instead. Which is good for France but also bad, good because having a team at UCL is a good thing, but also bad because they will probably lose a lot, they are not good enough to beat many teams, which is bad for their national co-efficiency, if Lille was at Europa they would have won a lot more, and it would have bene good for their co-effiency instead.

That's the good and bad side of UCL entry, you end up making so much more money, just being in the group stages of UCL could give you more money than going to finals at Europa, so money is more important and everyone wants to be there, but then you lose a bunch of games and that's a bad thing for morale and for the nation and for the club as well. I would still prefer UCL though, who could say no to that much money in the end, football requires a lot of money.

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