The government cares for no one but waits for you to get rich for taxes paying.

[Bright0515]

Taxes are income retrieved from workers monthly to contribute to the account of the country for the development of the country as well but we are not seeing much of these taxes and the area they are being used all the government could do is to impose heavy taxes on especially private owned businesses.

No job opportunity but open a small successful business boom government and their tax issues.

[South Park]

It is not really a situation where the government is waiting for people to become rich, before they are taxed.. they simply tax rich people more to help them to pay their salaries and also to help them to pay for services that they need to render to the community.

Who will fund these services, if the rich are not helping to pay for these services?

But even if the laws states that the rich should pay high taxes, due to their wealth they can use all kind of tricks to pay way less taxes than what they should, this is a problem that has existed for a long time and governments are trying to combat it, but since the rich also give money to politicians to get elected, this means that whatever laws that are passed with this purpose are left with a lot of loopholes which can be exploited by the rich.

[jaberwock]

The ones at the top and at the bottom aren't heavily impacted by taxes. The middle classes are. The government protects the richest, because if regulators introduce tax policy against them, their wealth leaves the country immediately to a more friendly country which won't charge them at all... Meanwhile, the poors don't have much to contribute and heavily rely on welfare programs to survive, so the final burden is carried by the middle classes, who are the most prejudiced ones, since they want to work and thrive, but find many obstacles on the way, because the government sabotages them all the time through abusive taxes.

As far as I've seen, countries haven't managed to get rid of this vicious cycle yet. Here in my country, officially, around 40% of the yearly income of an average citizen returns to the government through taxes. That is insane, and for much less we already had armed revolts in a far historical past against the imperial government.

This is very correct, and unfortunately it is making middle class live like poor of the old days as well. If you are in the USA and making 40k a year, then you are poor, and you do not pay that much taxes and government doesn't "benefit" from you, if you are making a million dollars a month, you could protect it in a hundred different ways, but if you are someone who makes about 10k a month, which is 120k, you are not poor, but you are not "that" rich neither, so they tax you to hell, and you can't afford a decent house most of the time because of it.

I believe that we are going to end up with rich people eventually getting a bit more taxed, because the current system is not sustainable, and there won't be any other method left even if they want to avoid taxing the rich.

[stomachgrowls]

I do not know about other countries but in my country, politics has compromised the economy growth with equity.
As the transition of power evolves, the value of the citizens are depreciated in the eyes of the governments which now optimizes citizens to rely living in fortitude of bravery and accepting challenges so that we don't give it all up hopelessly.

We fight it out by ourselves like there is no government to provide us with some basic amenities and quite better to be called "a daylight robbery or extortion" that once individuals has struggled to make productive differences from the economy slavery chain of the government, you would be will assigned to revenue on taxations.

My question.... If the government could find utilizations on the citizens for taxations on generating funds for infrastructures and other government services , why don't they invest on the citizens or support those with the potentials to productiveness knowing quite well that once they makes success, they would be demanded to also contributed to the growing structures of the economy?
What the government knows is that if a successful individual refuses to comply with the government order, they will get you frustrated tending to fold your productiveness qualities or you go to jail.

So, why don't they tax the poor who barely struggle to eat?:Simply because they found those set of citizens useless and the prison will be occupied if charge them for not paying taxes since there are more Poor people than the rich in the society.

We do know that when it comes to taxation then they would really be surely focusing into those big fish or something that would be giving out results in a short period time rather than they would really be making out some considerations on taking up some focus into its citizens on which they dont even know if these people would really be that paying up their taxes on the moment that they would really be landing with their own jobs and other things that they are getting involved into. This is why they wont really be wasting up those funds to be that putting up focus into its citizens. They will really be surely sticking into those things on which they do know that they could really be able to take advantage with. This is why on the moment that they would really be needing up to choose then it would be understandable with that obvious thing.

It is really just that sad that they would really be focusing into those single point but still not all places or countries wont really be that having that kind of priority in towards into their
citizens on which there are indeed places that do really give out that benefit.

[shield132]

I do not know about other countries but in my country, politics has compromised the economy growth with equity.
As the transition of power evolves, the value of the citizens are depreciated in the eyes of the governments which now optimizes citizens to rely living in fortitude of bravery and accepting challenges so that we don't give it all up hopelessly.

We fight it out by ourselves like there is no government to provide us with some basic amenities and quite better to be called "a daylight robbery or extortion" that once individuals has struggled to make productive differences from the economy slavery chain of the government, you would be will assigned to revenue on taxations.

My question.... If the government could find utilizations on the citizens for taxations on generating funds for infrastructures and other government services , why don't they invest on the citizens or support those with the potentials to productiveness knowing quite well that once they makes success, they would be demanded to also contributed to the growing structures of the economy?
What the government knows is that if a successful individual refuses to comply with the government order, they will get you frustrated tending to fold your productiveness qualities or you go to jail.

So, why don't they tax the poor who barely struggle to eat?:Simply because they found those set of citizens useless and the prison will be occupied if charge them for not paying taxes since there are more Poor people than the rich in the society.

In my country, the situation is completely different. The government gives privileges to very poor people (those on social welfare) but taxes poor people (those not on social welfare). Middle-class is doing well, self-employed people don't pay taxes and the other part has high salaries that are enough to have a normal life. The rich people have a real heaven here because they don't pay taxes, get many benefits from banks, many discounts on lounges, hotels, gyms, swimming pools and etc... Rich people pay 1% tax sometimes, recently the government was considering to offer them tax free money transfer from offshore zones. Life is different everywhere, it's not like government waits for you to get rich, I would say that it's the quite opposite, once you become rich, you have more power and influence and government respects you more.

[HajiBagi]

Taxes are general, put on basic things like, income, purchases, social amenities, so rich or not rich everyone pays taxes. In most cases as one gets richer they get more financially aware and can afford to use tax loopholes that exist, meaning the not so rich may be paying more in taxes relative to what they are earning.

The rules may be flipped in your country depending on what economic policies are in place, but for majority of countries, taxes are paid across the board.

I agree with you, whether you are rich or poor you must pay taxes, taxes are meant for everyone, not those who have become rich, everybody individual in the country needs to pay their taxes because according to the law, everyone is equal, no any citizen is going to complain that he or she don’t have money and can’t pay taxes because even when the government when to provide for the country it is being provided to both poor and rich people, if it was the rich people that suppose to pay taxes that means the poor people don’t need to complain about the government and when people are talking about government they shouldn’t talk because they don’t use to pay taxes, I don’t know about another people’s country but in my country taxes is being paid by every individual and it is compulsory for everyone.

[Antotena]

So, why don't they tax the poor who barely struggle to eat?:Simply because they found those set of citizens useless and the prison will be occupied if charge them for not paying taxes since there are more Poor people than the rich in the society.

The tax system for governments says if you are making money from there system, it's a must that you have to give them some % of what you earn, that's what the government does. So, the poor people don't earn from the system, how do you expect the government to tax people who are barely trying to survive and get some food to feed their self and their families, it will be so wicked of the government to tax the poor who don't have basic amenities of the government.

If a government give you in the left, you will surely give them some in their right hand and that's how it has been since democratic system, even before them there were tax from people and those were even worse than now because either you are poor or rich, earn less or more, you will be forced to give money to the government and if you don't, you will be punished but all those are things of the past.

[darkangel11]

Taxes are general, put on basic things like, income, purchases, social amenities, so rich or not rich everyone pays taxes. In most cases as one gets richer they get more financially aware and can afford to use tax loopholes that exist, meaning the not so rich may be paying more in taxes relative to what they are earning.

The rules may be flipped in your country depending on what economic policies are in place, but for majority of countries, taxes are paid across the board.

Plot twist, they aren't earning anything. What now? You get a millionaire who has 10m in the bank and he inherited all of it. He leaves his job and spends every day sunbathing, playing golf and driving expensive cars. How will you get him to pay tax if he doesn't have income anymore?
Another situation that comes to my mind. A millionaire hires himself and gives himself a minimum wage. He's the CEO but gets what inexperienced workers get so that he doesn't have to pay any taxes, since you based all of it on income

[_BlackStar]

The government never waits for you to become rich to require you to pay taxes - as long as you are one of the individuals who pay taxes, they will ask you to pay it. The government is too good at taking advantage of its cityzen, isn't it?

So far the government has taken several positive approaches regarding the legality of crypto trading and investment. Their target is to get tax revenue from you - it's already in place so you have to pay tax on your investment and trading profits.

[GeorgeJohn]

There is some certain country that is not civilized that is why some countries is lacking behind because they don't know the methodology they will apply in order to boost their economy so if a wrong group or people is piloting the affairs of the country it is obvious that that country will be I'm Anarchy in terms of infrastructure and also in economy of that particular country, because that's what we call human development if government have a good leaders who is governing the people with interest of love and peace and unity I think they will be empowerment of human capital that will help to sustain the economy of that country, but currently government does not like to associate or empower people because there are there for their own selfish interest not for the interest of the masses

[N.O]

we pay taxes all the time, you may not even realize it but when you buy something, read the receipt as it mentions the tax you paid. you pay taxes over and over being poor, no one is exempted. centuries ago people wage war all because the government is collecting tax from the hard-earned money by people but now we are used to it already that even if they increase the rates, we're all obedient.

Right! So even those poor people still paying taxes in a very different ways, that's also the reason why people are struggling in their daily expenses because everything they need has a tax payment, that results higher expenses. maybe we only see the big deductions due to tax payments but in reality, the tax bill is the same for everyone, it just differs depending on the state of your life.

It usually differs from country to another but each country has what we call a tax bracket. If you earn x amount of salary, then you might belong to a bracket where the government can tax you 15% to 30% of your salary. Probably lower if your salary is also lower.

How does this not help lower / middle class people?

The government only helps people under a specific economic class and once they start earning, they stop all kinds of support and taxes them. Obviously with how much they are paying in their daily expenses, they are bound to go back to poverty again. This can be called the paradox of poverty which I think was very well explained in this video: https://youtu.be/D9N7QaIOkG8?si=02Q0JF1kXkuqcbDM

Government subsidize for the poor people and middle class people pay more taxes than rich people. Here are many businessmans who  do not pay taxes because they they are intelligent people,they only use the money of middle class people which is stored by them in banks. They take debts from the banks on the very small interest rate and then they invested in assets like in property and gold and when Government demand taxe ,they show bankruptcy and they show, they have nothing to pay  because they have to pay debt and government do not take the taxes from debt people.In America, that system is common but in my country ,that is not common because our country is Muslim country and most of our businessmans pay tax .

[pusaka]

The government never waits for you to become rich to require you to pay taxes - as long as you are one of the individuals who pay taxes, they will ask you to pay it. The government is too good at taking advantage of its cityzen, isn't it?

So far the government has taken several positive approaches regarding the legality of crypto trading and investment. Their target is to get tax revenue from you - it's already in place so you have to pay tax on your investment and trading profits.

Yes, as long as there are assets that have to be paid taxes, the government will pursue them, no matter whether you are rich, simple or even poor, what is clear is that they will always pursue taxes.
In my country the government does issue subsidies to the poor, but at the same time they also collect taxes from them. It could be said that they receive subsidies or assistance from the tax money they pay.
However, the problem is when the government cannot manage tax finances well, or they even engage in corrupt practices with tax money. This is one of the things that is still a fundamental problem, where people who only care about themselves are still roaming around.

[EluguHcman]

There is some certain country that is not civilized that is why some countries is lacking behind because they don't know the methodology they will apply in order to boost their economy so if a wrong group or people is piloting the affairs of the country it is obvious that that country will be I'm Anarchy in terms of infrastructure and also in economy of that particular country, because that's what we call human development if government have a good leaders who is governing the people with interest of love and peace and unity I think they will be empowerment of human capital that will help to sustain the economy of that country, but currently government does not like to associate or empower people because there are there for their own selfish interest not for the interest of the masses

That is just the bitter truth. Intentionally countries that faces instable economy or standard infrastructures can turn out to human resources it's economy revenue is not sufficient to balance the system.

A lot of countries capitalizes their economy revenues on natural resources but countries that does not have it would diversify to human resources and capital productive by introducing and engaging the masses on different productive factors such as agricultures, creativities, technologies and entrepreneurship.

All these above amenities would really developments, boosten national infrastructures that the masses can be able to pay taxes.

[mindrust]

On the contrary of what OP believes, rich people know how to avoid taxes, legally. I am not talking about not reporting your income or anything illegal like that. Rich people avoid taxes through their corporates. Anything they buy will be on the balance sheet of the corporate. The accountant will write lots of income tax off because the corporate won’t be making money on the paper but it is constantly buying assets and growing. That’s exactly how amazon.com became an industry giant. Once you figure out this trick, it is pretty easy to get rich because you will be paying nothing to the government. It is a very big advantage most people don’t have.

[SmartCharpa]

we pay taxes all the time, you may not even realize it but when you buy something, read the receipt as it mentions the tax you paid. you pay taxes over and over being poor, no one is exempted. centuries ago people wage war all because the government is collecting tax from the hard-earned money by people but now we are used to it already that even if they increase the rates, we're all obedient.

I agree with you, we all pay taxes daily, and we may not even realize it. We do, however, pay taxes when we buy items and live in our homes. Do we know why some companies increase the prices of their products? It is because they want to remove the taxes. In my country, even when we were traveling, the driver was required to pay taxes, which were deducted from the amount we paid for transportation. Due to the increase in rates in society, we have gotten used to paying taxes. Taxes are necessary, and we must follow the rules as the world changes. In my country the government is against cryptocurrency and they has removed P2P trading on several exchanges. However, after their point of view, they said that we would be taxed at a rate of 7.5% on each transaction, and we have no choice but to agree with what they said since we need access to those exchanges for our benefit.

[Bloodseekers]

Yes, as long as there are assets that have to be paid taxes, the government will pursue them, no matter whether you are rich, simple or even poor, what is clear is that they will always pursue taxes.
In my country the government does issue subsidies to the poor, but at the same time they also collect taxes from them. It could be said that they receive subsidies or assistance from the tax money they pay.
However, the problem is when the government cannot manage tax finances well, or they even engage in corrupt practices with tax money. This is one of the things that is still a fundamental problem, where people who only care about themselves are still roaming around.

Everyone certainly has an obligation to be able to pay taxes to the government and when people don't pay them of course the government will create a program that will make people pay them in various ways carried out by the government, if the government provides subsidies and they also impose the same tax on recipients Of course, this subsidy doesn't really help them and there could be mistakes on the part of the government in managing the tax funds that have been paid by the people and when the government only prioritizes their own group of course the poor people in the country will continue to increase because of a greedy government.

[d-baet guns]

We struggle individually as if there is no government that provides basic facilities for us, if the government cannot find the use of citizens for taxes in producing infrastructure funds and other government services, why the government does not invest in citizens as if to support those who has the potential for productivity.
Everyone must pay taxes no matter the poor or rich, just because they consider a group of citizens to be useless and prison will be occupied, if they are defeated only because they do not pay taxes, because more poor people than rich people in the community.
General tax, subject to basic matters, namely, income, purchases, social facilities. So whether or not a person is required to pay taxes.

[aioc]

So, why don't they tax the poor who barely struggle to eat?:Simply because they found those set of citizens useless and the prison will be occupied if charge them for not paying taxes since there are more Poor people than the rich in the society.

We all get taxed whether you are poor or rich; if you are poor and you have a small parcel of land, you are not exempt from the tax; they will tax you; taxes are uniform. They don't care about their status in society, but you still get taxes; you buy food, and the food you buy has taxes; there are some services that the government taxes, whether the poor or the rich use it.

We cannot escape taxes, especially if you're living in a third-world country where the government keeps looking for ways to tax its people, whether they are rich or poor.

[Asiska02]

So, why don't they tax the poor who barely struggle to eat?:Simply because they found those set of citizens useless and the prison will be occupied if charge them for not paying taxes since there are more Poor people than the rich in the society.

Paying tax shouldn’t be a problem to any patriotic citizen, what you earn is demanded you pay a tax equivalent to that. So high income earners are required to pay more when giving out tax than the low income ones. If you’re poor and can’t afford to pay a tax, then you must not be engaging in anything that will prompt you to do so. Tax is good for the development of the nation alongside what you’re paying those money for.

The problem why some people don’t pay tax now lies in the politics that is been played within the governments jurisdiction. They take the tax and don’t reciprocate it back with what they need to do to make the citizens happy for paying those taxes. If you continue to tax me and I don’t see myself in a better living environment or living conditions, i will not be convinced to pay more tax when time comes and will want to begin evading it. The government has a role to play in this and if they actively play theirs well, they won’t have problems with most citizens again.

[Wakate]

It is not really a situation where the government is waiting for people to become rich, before they are taxed.. they simply tax rich people more to help them to pay their salaries and also to help them to pay for services that they need to render to the community.

Who will fund these services, if the rich are not helping to pay for these services?

But even if the laws states that the rich should pay high taxes, due to their wealth they can use all kind of tricks to pay way less taxes than what they should, this is a problem that has existed for a long time and governments are trying to combat it, but since the rich also give money to politicians to get elected, this means that whatever laws that are passed with this purpose are left with a lot of loopholes which can be exploited by the rich.

The funny is that the rich are not even paying as much as they should pay. There taxes are far less than what they should be paying which I think it is a way to support the rich to do more business and create more wealth for themselves. The system supports the rich and make them more richer when the poor or the average persons would be compelled to pay more tax so that the government would have more money to spend and do a lot of unnecessary things. Things are far more harder to the poor compared to the rich which has been supporting them for long. I don't even see a need to the government to keep over taxing us for bunch of unnecessary reasons.