Jody.Drummer
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July 06, 2024, 05:45:15 PM |
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The funny is that the rich are not even paying as much as they should pay. There taxes are far less than what they should be paying which I think it is a way to support the rich to do more business and create more wealth for themselves. The system supports the rich and make them more richer when the poor or the average persons would be compelled to pay more tax so that the government would have more money to spend and do a lot of unnecessary things. Things are far more harder to the poor compared to the rich which has been supporting them for long. I don't even see a need to the government to keep over taxing us for bunch of unnecessary reasons.
With those who are rich but pay taxes that are not in accordance with what should be paid, it always exists, and it does sound funny when rich people pay taxes that are not in accordance with what they should pay but maybe they have certain reasons why they do this. In addition, there are also many people in my opinion who ignore taxes for whatever reason, but what is clear is that it is not good behavior and is not good to imitate. Because basically we are obliged to pay taxes and it is something that should be considered by everyone whether it is rich or poor. Of course for the poor they will have difficulty paying taxes, because maybe with their economic situation they still always have difficulty fulfilling it, but indeed the government will not see that, they just want the community to be able to pay taxes with the stipulated provisions because there are laws about taxation as well so inevitably the community must be able to pay taxes with the amount and time that has been determined.
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Y3shot
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July 06, 2024, 07:02:02 PM |
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The government never waits for you to become rich to require you to pay taxes - as long as you are one of the individuals who pay taxes, they will ask you to pay it. The government is too good at taking advantage of its cityzen, isn't it?
So far the government has taken several positive approaches regarding the legality of crypto trading and investment. Their target is to get tax revenue from you - it's already in place so you have to pay tax on your investment and trading profits.
Let's just have it mind as individuals their is nothing we can do about tax paying, we just need to have it in mind as a responsibility because whether you like it or not the goverment will still demand tax , this is one of the way money is being generated for government. I think we just need to get used to tax paying because it is something that can't be bypassed. The problem with goverment collecting tax, they charge so much that people can't afford.
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Huppercase
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July 06, 2024, 07:56:38 PM |
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Let's just have it mind as individuals their is nothing we can do about tax paying, we just need to have it in mind as a responsibility because whether you like it or not the goverment will still demand tax , this is one of the way money is being generated for government. I think we just need to get used to tax paying because it is something that can't be bypassed. The problem with goverment collecting tax, they charge so much that people can't afford.
In a system where everything is working, there is nothing absolutely wrong without paying a tax, in fact anyone found guilty of not paying tax or evading tax should be arrested because if there is no tax, the system will not work and the system will not grow and those that are paying the tax for development of the country are not fools. More reason why you see rich are been tax than the poor. We need tax for development in real system and not corrupt place where governments officials loot taxes. OP is angry and it's understandable because he is coming from a place where tax system need to be reform. Why collect taxes, redistribute it to the federal level and then back to state to local level and yet it looks like there is no tax been paid, there is no good roads, no basic amenities and no government support. What is now the use of the taxes been paid by the citizens of the when they are been stolen and not use for what they are instructed for in the beginning, the system is not working for them and has failed them.
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July 06, 2024, 09:08:32 PM |
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The government never waits for you to become rich to require you to pay taxes - as long as you are one of the individuals who pay taxes, they will ask you to pay it. The government is too good at taking advantage of its cityzen, isn't it?
So far the government has taken several positive approaches regarding the legality of crypto trading and investment. Their target is to get tax revenue from you - it's already in place so you have to pay tax on your investment and trading profits.
Let's just have it mind as individuals their is nothing we can do about tax paying, we just need to have it in mind as a responsibility because whether you like it or not the goverment will still demand tax , this is one of the way money is being generated for government. I think we just need to get used to tax paying because it is something that can't be bypassed. The problem with goverment collecting tax, they charge so much that people can't afford. Life would have been more easier and better with little tax payments, individuals are now expected to pay huge taxes even when they have little or nothing to care for themselves and it has made a lot of people unable to care for themselves properly. In some countries, individuals pay taxes on their cars, buildings and investments which is a threat to how comfortable one should live when in other countries it is not done that way.
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South Park
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July 08, 2024, 01:01:19 AM |
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Life would have been more easier and better with little tax payments, individuals are now expected to pay huge taxes even when they have little or nothing to care for themselves and it has made a lot of people unable to care for themselves properly. In some countries, individuals pay taxes on their cars, buildings and investments which is a threat to how comfortable one should live when in other countries it is not done that way.
This is because governments have grown too big, instead of a small government which is not that much of a burden to its citizens, politicians decided to expand it without any control and increase their power this way, but this means that we have to pay for it with more taxes, but we are reaching a breaking point, with salaries not growing and a high level of inflation, people have to chose between paying what they owe to the government or having enough money to eat, and it does not take a genius to know which option people will pick if they are forced to take a choice.
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Mr. Magkaisa
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July 08, 2024, 01:52:58 AM |
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- All countries have taxes that are taken from the prime commodities that people buy, and the taxes that they take from rich people who have large companies or many businesses are even bigger. Today, the individual citizens under their jurisdiction are probably playing with a 12% and up tax that is reduced, which is quite heavy and painful on the pocket.
So the other rich people here among us hire their own accountants to make a way so that they can pay a small amount of tax because of the businesses they pay, but if there is something under the table that happens, they get small taxes. only.
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EluguHcman (OP)
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July 09, 2024, 11:43:11 AM |
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Let's just have it mind as individuals their is nothing we can do about tax paying, we just need to have it in mind as a responsibility because whether you like it or not the goverment will still demand tax , this is one of the way money is being generated for government. I think we just need to get used to tax paying because it is something that can't be bypassed. The problem with goverment collecting tax, they charge so much that people can't afford.
OP is angry and it's understandable because he is coming from a place where tax system need to be reform. Why collect taxes, redistribute it to the federal level and then back to state to local level and yet it looks like there is no tax been paid, there is no good roads, no basic amenities and no government support. What is now the use of the taxes been paid by the citizens of the when they are been stolen and not use for what they are instructed for in the beginning, the system is not working for them and has failed them. Sounded more like a psychologist @Huppercase. The reality fact is that it feels being extorted by the government when you are asked to pay task to generate public fund in other to build infrastructures and allocating community developments through the generation of tasks but the government are not utilizing the funds for the purpose of massive benefits. Citizens and the masses entirely still do well complies with the policies of paying the taxes but yet it does not prove an any evidence that we are paying taxes for community being services instead it seems to be the taxes are source of incomes for the people at the top of the governments. Meaning we are all remitting dues to enrich the riches that are already rich enough.
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passwordnow
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July 09, 2024, 02:00:43 PM |
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- All countries have taxes that are taken from the prime commodities that people buy, and the taxes that they take from rich people who have large companies or many businesses are even bigger. Today, the individual citizens under their jurisdiction are probably playing with a 12% and up tax that is reduced, which is quite heavy and painful on the pocket.
There's even more for some countries that can reach 30% or even more, I don't know but that's what I can recall. And that's why those millionaires are looking for countries as tax haven for them to hide their wealth there and become non taxable. So the other rich people here among us hire their own accountants to make a way so that they can pay a small amount of tax because of the businesses they pay, but if there is something under the table that happens, they get small taxes. only.
That's one way and there are a lot of loopholes for these taxations for them to be skipped. Aside from hiring their own accountants and tax experts, they've been doing something for them to avoid being taxed a lot. So, some incentives can be applied and that's how knowledgeable the rich are. They're not just good in making business but also in cutting their taxes.
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justdimin
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July 09, 2024, 07:29:31 PM |
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So the other rich people here among us hire their own accountants to make a way so that they can pay a small amount of tax because of the businesses they pay, but if there is something under the table that happens, they get small taxes. only.
That's one way and there are a lot of loopholes for these taxations for them to be skipped. Aside from hiring their own accountants and tax experts, they've been doing something for them to avoid being taxed a lot. So, some incentives can be applied and that's how knowledgeable the rich are. They're not just good in making business but also in cutting their taxes. Being able to avoid taxes is what everyone aspires to do because they do not think that the tax they are paying is getting anything done, they think that government takes that money and during the corruption money goes smaller and smaller. So the whole nation pays X amount, and they fear that government uses x/2 amount instead, which causes some trouble for many people, because half of their money goes to these politicians and corrupt officials pockets instead of back to society. This is understandable and that's of course terrible, but that doesn't mean that we should stop paying taxes, it just means that we need to figure out a solution to this problem, figure out a way to incentives people to unearth these corrupt people with proof and give them rewards.
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passwordnow
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July 10, 2024, 05:12:12 PM |
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So the other rich people here among us hire their own accountants to make a way so that they can pay a small amount of tax because of the businesses they pay, but if there is something under the table that happens, they get small taxes. only.
That's one way and there are a lot of loopholes for these taxations for them to be skipped. Aside from hiring their own accountants and tax experts, they've been doing something for them to avoid being taxed a lot. So, some incentives can be applied and that's how knowledgeable the rich are. They're not just good in making business but also in cutting their taxes. Being able to avoid taxes is what everyone aspires to do because they do not think that the tax they are paying is getting anything done, they think that government takes that money and during the corruption money goes smaller and smaller. So the whole nation pays X amount, and they fear that government uses x/2 amount instead, which causes some trouble for many people, because half of their money goes to these politicians and corrupt officials pockets instead of back to society. This is understandable and that's of course terrible, but that doesn't mean that we should stop paying taxes, it just means that we need to figure out a solution to this problem, figure out a way to incentives people to unearth these corrupt people with proof and give them rewards. That's what mostly is like happening in every country that each citizen wants to skip and avoid paying taxes. But for these rich people, they're not avoiding tax but lessening the tax that they're obliged to pay through some activities that will lessen it. Like doing some charity works for which many big organizations are donating their own money to their own charities. I don't know for some but that's one way for them to skip paying huge taxes. They're bright in terms of this kind of matters but there is no doubt that they contribute big to the economy still by providing jobs to many people especially if they're a huge corporation and have got a lot of workers providing food to their tables. Tax evasion is illegal and people should distinguish its difference from lessening the amount of tax that you're about to pay through legal ways of doing provided by law.
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July 12, 2024, 09:57:35 AM |
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We shouldn't take it from the way OP has pictured how government behaves in this situation, no one will be hold responsible for our poverty in life, everyone of us have equal opportunities to make it in life, i have seen a political candidate which after the tenure in office became broke in life and couldn't afford to meet up to all expenses, all because they lack what it takes to manage resources well, paying tax is not aimed at hurting the people, but instead, to make everyone enjoy good access to a comfortable living.
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We shouldn't take it from the way OP has pictured how government behaves in this situation, no one will be hold responsible for our poverty in life, everyone of us have equal opportunities to make it in life, i have seen a political candidate which after the tenure in office became broke in life and couldn't afford to meet up to all expenses, all because they lack what it takes to manage resources well, paying tax is not aimed at hurting the people, but instead, to make everyone enjoy good access to a comfortable living.
It is true that other people are not responsible for our condition, even if we are poor, of course it is not someone else's responsibility to overcome it. In unfavorable circumstances, of course we ourselves have to change it and improve it, not other people. Even though other people can help, it is impossible for them to help us completely. Apart from that, paying taxes is a must for every citizen because the aim is to make them comfortable with their lives. For people from the lower middle class or in other words, they are in a less favorable situation, maybe they will have difficulty paying taxes, but I think it is true that the government will not care about our condition, even if we are in a bad condition or are in need. it's the same as we still have to pay taxes. and we cannot avoid that, so we have to improve our own situation with the mindset that we have so that we can get income and meet our needs and pay taxes, we have to try.
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July 12, 2024, 11:13:42 AM |
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OP is angry and it's understandable because he is coming from a place where tax system need to be reform. Why collect taxes, redistribute it to the federal level and then back to state to local level and yet it looks like there is no tax been paid, there is no good roads, no basic amenities and no government support. What is now the use of the taxes been paid by the citizens of the when they are been stolen and not use for what they are instructed for in the beginning, the system is not working for them and has failed them.
Sounded more like a psychologist @Huppercase. The reality fact is that it feels being extorted by the government when you are asked to pay task to generate public fund in other to build infrastructures and allocating community developments through the generation of tasks but the government are not utilizing the funds for the purpose of massive benefits. Citizens and the masses entirely still do well complies with the policies of paying the taxes but yet it does not prove an any evidence that we are paying taxes for community being services instead it seems to be the taxes are source of incomes for the people at the top of the governments. Meaning we are all remitting dues to enrich the riches that are already rich enough. So basically you really mind and don't want to pay taxes? OK, no problem but how many votes can you get from that disagreement? because each country may have different regulations and not as severe as those in your country, the taxation system seems so corrupt and dirty. I think the equalization system in your country is very chaotic or you are the only one who seems intimidated, but in fact the general public still accepts this policy. How much tax do you pay? and how much income do you generate in one year? As a citizen, paying taxes is mandatory, the tax system has existed from ancient times until now. I'm curious how bad the service of public facilities is in your country? If it is really in the most serious stage, such as very cruel hospital services, that means a revolution is needed, but do you have enough votes? are you a politician? That's the only way to change the dilapidated tax system. If you are nobody, don't have a voice of support, aren't even a political person then in this case no one can give you any advice. Because talking about the tax system and its regulation will involve all large elements of society.
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July 12, 2024, 11:41:20 AM |
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OP is angry and it's understandable because he is coming from a place where tax system need to be reform. Why collect taxes, redistribute it to the federal level and then back to state to local level and yet it looks like there is no tax been paid, there is no good roads, no basic amenities and no government support. What is now the use of the taxes been paid by the citizens of the when they are been stolen and not use for what they are instructed for in the beginning, the system is not working for them and has failed them.
Sounded more like a psychologist @Huppercase. The reality fact is that it feels being extorted by the government when you are asked to pay task to generate public fund in other to build infrastructures and allocating community developments through the generation of tasks but the government are not utilizing the funds for the purpose of massive benefits. Citizens and the masses entirely still do well complies with the policies of paying the taxes but yet it does not prove an any evidence that we are paying taxes for community being services instead it seems to be the taxes are source of incomes for the people at the top of the governments. Meaning we are all remitting dues to enrich the riches that are already rich enough. So basically you really mind and don't want to pay taxes? OK, no problem but how many votes can you get from that disagreement? because each country may have different regulations and not as severe as those in your country, the taxation system seems so corrupt and dirty. I think the equalization system in your country is very chaotic or you are the only one who seems intimidated, but in fact the general public still accepts this policy. How much tax do you pay? and how much income do you generate in one year? As a citizen, paying taxes is mandatory, the tax system has existed from ancient times until now. I'm curious how bad the service of public facilities is in your country? If it is really in the most serious stage, such as very cruel hospital services, that means a revolution is needed, but do you have enough votes? are you a politician? That's the only way to change the dilapidated tax system. If you are nobody, don't have a voice of support, aren't even a political person then in this case no one can give you any advice. Because talking about the tax system and its regulation will involve all large elements of society. The taxes are made mandatory yes and so also conditional but most tax implemention are unnecessary because the regularities may really not care how much income you generates annually and all they know is that... You have got to comply to pay the taxes and for the self and inhuman attitudes, the tasks on the taxes becomes too much for less income earners which leads citizens to dump the those petty engagements that could only profit them little and yet the governments task them on taxations. So considering the volume of your income and the taxes, it is like unknowingly you are working to enrich the government while you struggles unproudly with your source of income while prioritizing survival first but yet the governments acts consciencelessly. I am not a politician neither am I am influential fellow in the society but does it not seem necessary to express oneself especially when the governments are acting against the masses? Perhaps, does votes really account on such case when the authorities has made their decisions in a society where the majority of the masses voices are not being recognized? But yet it does not mean we should not be out spoken. It is all alarms of hoping for better days in the nearest maybe where we could have a better governance.
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July 12, 2024, 08:06:21 PM |
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As far as I know, every country must impose taxes on its people, both rich and poor. It's just that rich people are taxed more and are often monitored by the government because they have higher incomes than poor people. There are also several countries that increase taxes on the rich. So tax is for everyone, if you buy goods or anything you will definitely be taxed, but maybe you don't realize that you have actually paid tax.
The purpose of collecting taxes is actually good because the taxes are to finance the state in terms of building facilities and infrastructure and things related to the progress of a country whose benefits are also enjoyed by the people. It's just that many officials are corrupt so that tax money cannot be enjoyed by the people. In my country the tax agency is having problems because its revenue system is not correct, several times officials in this agency have committed massive corruption, this has had a big impact on development in my country.
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July 12, 2024, 09:27:28 PM |
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Life would have been more easier and better with little tax payments, individuals are now expected to pay huge taxes even when they have little or nothing to care for themselves and it has made a lot of people unable to care for themselves properly. In some countries, individuals pay taxes on their cars, buildings and investments which is a threat to how comfortable one should live when in other countries it is not done that way.
This is because governments have grown too big, instead of a small government which is not that much of a burden to its citizens, politicians decided to expand it without any control and increase their power this way, but this means that we have to pay for it with more taxes, but we are reaching a breaking point, with salaries not growing and a high level of inflation, people have to chose between paying what they owe to the government or having enough money to eat, and it does not take a genius to know which option people will pick if they are forced to take a choice. It's just sad to say that with bigger amount of salary, comes also with a higher tax. That's how our country imposed tax paying on every worker. But if you are a minimum wage earner, you are free from tax payment which I think is quite unfair, at least a small amount of tax can do knowing all of us are benefiting those projects that are made possible through the taxes of people.
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July 16, 2024, 06:49:03 AM |
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Well my opinion on paying taxes is a complete trick by the government and its lawmakers for allowing this to happen. I don’t think the money collected on taxes is even being used to fund infrastructures.
Those taxes they get collected from taxes only funds the corrupt justice system instead of taking care of the homeless and feeding the needy. If the citizens of the country were to have control of how the funds collected from taxes get disturbed towards funding a better education system, free healthcare for all citizens, and no taxes on property already purchased from the government.
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July 16, 2024, 06:37:07 PM |
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In a system where everything is working, there is nothing absolutely wrong without paying a tax, in fact anyone found guilty of not paying tax or evading tax should be arrested because if there is no tax, the system will not work and the system will not grow and those that are paying the tax for development of the country are not fools. More reason why you see rich are been tax than the poor. We need tax for development in real system and not corrupt place where governments officials loot taxes.
In countries that things actually work if you should invade tax they will arrested and you will be charged in court and only countries that things are working that it can be done. The tax also play significant role in the economy and also in the life of the citizens and that is why when the government is not doing the needful then you see the citizens to challenge the government. And since the tax is part of the system it is better to just pay than trying to invade. The tax we pay actually varies based on our Status and I love it that way at least the poor will not be to pressured. OP is angry and it's understandable because he is coming from a place where tax system need to be reform. Why collect taxes, redistribute it to the federal level and then back to state to local level and yet it looks like there is no tax been paid, there is no good roads, no basic amenities and no government support. What is now the use of the taxes been paid by the citizens of the when they are been stolen and not use for what they are instructed for in the beginning, the system is not working for them and has failed them.
A lot of government policies needs to be reformed and worked up and I don’t blame op for been angry because he might be consistent in paying his tax and it’s not working, local level are suppose to be under the state and state under federal it’s a sequence and their process the problem now is that the state will always want to take advantage of the local level, their is a lot of defaults in the government sector, with time things will better, since we still have our rights intact.
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July 16, 2024, 11:44:03 PM |
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The bulk of taxes of the share of the nations budgeted spending will always be paid for by the millions of citizens. The whole idea of justice coming from taxing the rich instead of the poor is fairy tale logic, love the idea but there is no logic that especially will make it true.
Doesnt matter which party or politics, if its capitalism or the opposite systems it will still be the case that the majority of money paid to government is by the bulk of a nation. Just very generally if you tax a sector of rich people especially, they have the means via their wealth to leave the country for ten years or more. They might come back to visit as tourists perhaps but those most able to leave a country are the hardest to tax and that isnt anyones fault especially.
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July 19, 2024, 11:28:03 PM |
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This is because governments have grown too big, instead of a small government which is not that much of a burden to its citizens, politicians decided to expand it without any control and increase their power this way, but this means that we have to pay for it with more taxes, but we are reaching a breaking point, with salaries not growing and a high level of inflation, people have to chose between paying what they owe to the government or having enough money to eat, and it does not take a genius to know which option people will pick if they are forced to take a choice.
It's just sad to say that with bigger amount of salary, comes also with a higher tax. That's how our country imposed tax paying on every worker. But if you are a minimum wage earner, you are free from tax payment which I think is quite unfair, at least a small amount of tax can do knowing all of us are benefiting those projects that are made possible through the taxes of people. I also disagree with this idea, on the surface it may seem to be fair that those that earn the most pay the highest possible tax rate, however by doing this governments are making those people to not work as hard as they can or look for ways to avoid paying those high taxes, this is why I have always thought that the best solution is for everyone be taxed at the same rate, this way those that earn more still pay more money in taxes, but at least they know that everyone is on the same boat and that they are paying the same tax rate.
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