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July 26, 2024, 09:59:18 AM
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Why would really be hating if we do speak or talk about progress or changes? Just like on what everyone is really that saying on here that if we do speak about innovation then it will really be bringing out that kind of
benefit for humankind but we do know that in every positive, there's always a negative side of it on which its been stated about loss of particular jobs on which some people would really be affected but for the sake
of those changes and benefits then it is something that inevitable and lets just accept this fate. Instead on freaking out yourself on having such change, then why not really be finding up some alternatives rather than cry?

Agree into those words above that there would really be industries that will be affected and there are ones which couldnt because it will really be still needing up that manpower instead of robotics
or in full automation. This is why it would really be that recommended that if you do find yourself on an industry which could potentially be replaced then it will really be just that sensible
that you do look for other ways or alternatives.
Ready, hate or not we have to keep up with the times because otherwise we will be increasingly lagging and difficult to deal with the increasingly developed technological sophistication conditions. Every development and every innovation must have a negative and positive side depending on how humans can adjust. No one can reject technology or innovation that continues to develop because we live in a world full of new things, all things become an opportunity as long as humans want to adapt to these problems.

Alternatives that can be sought for how we should continue to grow when technology and innovation are growing. Technology is also not created by itself because it needs innovation and ideas to be created, why not think to create these innovations or why not think of utilizing technological innovations for the supporting needs of the work we live.

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July 27, 2024, 10:13:50 AM
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I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated, I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months.

If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.

I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer.





There's a possibility that this could happen, we can already see that ai has a lot of potentials to do a lot more in the future and as such some jobs will no longer require humans to it, but still there are jobs that can't be replaced with artificial intelligence, jobs that can't be done by robots or humans, it's important to venture into careers that would need human input only presently and also in the future,  working online too has been improved by artificial intelligence,  but not all aspects require it, for example wheat you do on this forum strictly requires human experience and intelligence only , identify those areas that can't be replaced so it doesn't affect you..

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July 30, 2024, 05:02:21 AM
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Being afraid of something like this doesn't make sense to me, it just doesn't feel like we are fearing something realistic. I understand that we are looking at something that will take some time, but we are also talking about something that is not really that fearful yet neither.

We are basically fearing what it can do in the future, we are not fearing what it does right now, and that is the traditional definition of anxiety. I do not feel like anxiety makes sense, because we are talking about something that will be very hard to do, it is going to do something harder to achieve. So all in all we could just see what we can do, and for that reason I believe that we shouldn't be worried for something that hasn't happened yet.
What is said about fear or anxiety is actually exactly as you have presented it. And those who give more importance to the present can enjoy the present and can be happy. But over the ages people of the world have thought about the future some have thought for themselves and others have thought for future generations. So it could be that overuse of technology can be a threat to labor workers as artificial growth reduces labor which can displace workers. However artificial augmentation is not really a cause for much concern because if it is so harmful surely the world representatives will regulate the use of artificial intelligence.
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July 30, 2024, 07:01:59 AM
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I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated, I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months.

If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.
The world governments are not foolish, they understand the importance of labour to the economy, and they often call world meetings due to the context here so that it will be moderated and regulated. The snatching of the labour force started many years ago unsuspected and one of these is ATM snatching it. Though ATM machines have better productivity than humans and can work 24 hours too, it still reduces the staff of banks whether we like it or not.

Initially, you might see at least 10 bank tellers in a roll in most banks in my country, but now, you may only see 3 or 4 active ones because the ATM has silently taken the job. If allowed to continue in many other sectors, truly, people will revolt as a "hungry man is an angry man." This, the government will not allow to happen as human lives and standard of living are more precious than that of robots and AIs.

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July 30, 2024, 01:36:18 PM
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Why would really be hating if we do speak or talk about progress or changes? Just like on what everyone is really that saying on here that if we do speak about innovation then it will really be bringing out that kind of
benefit for humankind but we do know that in every positive, there's always a negative side of it on which its been stated about loss of particular jobs on which some people would really be affected but for the sake
of those changes and benefits then it is something that inevitable and lets just accept this fate. Instead on freaking out yourself on having such change, then why not really be finding up some alternatives rather than cry?

Agree into those words above that there would really be industries that will be affected and there are ones which couldnt because it will really be still needing up that manpower instead of robotics
or in full automation. This is why it would really be that recommended that if you do find yourself on an industry which could potentially be replaced then it will really be just that sensible
that you do look for other ways or alternatives.
Ready, hate or not we have to keep up with the times because otherwise we will be increasingly lagging and difficult to deal with the increasingly developed technological sophistication conditions. Every development and every innovation must have a negative and positive side depending on how humans can adjust. No one can reject technology or innovation that continues to develop because we live in a world full of new things, all things become an opportunity as long as humans want to adapt to these problems.

Alternatives that can be sought for how we should continue to grow when technology and innovation are growing. Technology is also not created by itself because it needs innovation and ideas to be created, why not think to create these innovations or why not think of utilizing technological innovations for the supporting needs of the work we live.
Changes is inevitable and this is something that cant really be avoided and this is why if you do see yourself having those potential problems in the future about getting laid off with your job and replaced by something automation then the best thing to be done is to find up for another one, but of course you shouldnt really be resigning or quitting not until you do find that another job on which you do see that it cant really be affected by such change. It would really be that so hard to predict on what would happen in the future. This is why actions be made or plans be making up will really be just that depending or basing on how well you do make up some considerations basing up on the things that you are really that doing.  AI taking the jobs of people? For some industries then it would really happen but there are industries wont be affected.

Changes is inevitable but if its for the sake of comfort and easy access and efficiency then i dont really see up this thing to be that so bad.It would really be just that as a personal
point of view then you would really be thinking up careful on what are the back up plans on which you would be needing to do just in case.

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July 30, 2024, 02:52:01 PM
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I think its important to first off understand that AI doesn't actually exist yet.  It's in it's infancy and not real AI, or AGI yet.  When that day comes it really is hard to say what's actually going to be affected by it.  I think that it will certainly "take" some jobs but I think in other ways it might help create jobs.  It's a hard call to say for sure either way until we actually see it for ourselves and see how it truly effects things.

I don't think AI or robotics is in its infancy, everything has been tested for many years and it's time for it to be mass adopted. But I agree with you that AI will take away some of our jobs, but at the same time, it will also create some new jobs because they cannot solve all the jobs themselves without controlling people.

This is simply the development of our world, let's look at the positive side instead of looking at the negative side. Just like when the Internet appeared and email appeared, it completely eliminated communication through handwritten, typed letters. But that does not make post offices or postmen unemployed, they will be assigned different tasks.

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July 31, 2024, 08:39:08 AM
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Changes is inevitable and this is something that cant really be avoided and this is why if you do see yourself having those potential problems in the future about getting laid off with your job and replaced by something automation then the best thing to be done is to find up for another one, but of course you shouldnt really be resigning or quitting not until you do find that another job on which you do see that it cant really be affected by such change. It would really be that so hard to predict on what would happen in the future. This is why actions be made or plans be making up will really be just that depending or basing on how well you do make up some considerations basing up on the things that you are really that doing.  AI taking the jobs of people? For some industries then it would really happen but there are industries wont be affected.

Changes is inevitable but if its for the sake of comfort and easy access and efficiency then i dont really see up this thing to be that so bad.It would really be just that as a personal
point of view then you would really be thinking up careful on what are the back up plans on which you would be needing to do just in case.
If we do not want to follow the development of the times then we will be left behind and when we are not ready to face the sophistication it will have an impact on the life process that we live. The closest example is when the Smartphone was launched and humans unconsciously had to follow the trend, especially when talking about the future with a person's capacity to make money. Now there are several sectors that have been worked on by robots and all are operated by humans, only the limitations and number of human workers are reduced. So enjoy the development of technology and make it a motivation for us to adapt because no one is able to reject the development of the times and if forced we will be left behind and have difficulty.

Humans are much smarter than robots themselves because they were created by humans but it is impossible to group them comprehensively about intelligence for each person. Then what will prevent humans from developing and adapting, of course unnecessary fear because humans actually have much better abilities than robots themselves.

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I don't think AI or robotics is in its infancy, everything has been tested for many years and it's time for it to be mass adopted. But I agree with you that AI will take away some of our jobs, but at the same time, it will also create some new jobs because they cannot solve all the jobs themselves without controlling people.

This is simply the development of our world, let's look at the positive side instead of looking at the negative side. Just like when the Internet appeared and email appeared, it completely eliminated communication through handwritten, typed letters. But that does not make post offices or postmen unemployed, they will be assigned different tasks.

AI will get worse once Quantum Computing takes the world by storm. Even with all the buzz surrounding AI, it has a long road ahead before it can replace everyday human jobs. So yes, it's still in its infancy. Same as Bitcoin which is only 15 years old. New technologies take time to develop and improve until they become a "force to reckon with". It's in the "Elites" plan to save costs and improve efficiency via the use of AI. We will need to find other ways to generate income in a fully-digitized world.

Which AI will take over the world, is an excellent question. It could be Elon Musk's Grok AI, Google's Gemini AI, or even Microsoft's Co-Pilot AI. The one that proves to be superior will be the one that will rule the world. Hopefully, it won't be Elon Musk's AI, or we'd be doomed. Cheesy

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I think its important to first off understand that AI doesn't actually exist yet.  It's in it's infancy and not real AI, or AGI yet.  When that day comes it really is hard to say what's actually going to be affected by it.  I think that it will certainly "take" some jobs but I think in other ways it might help create jobs.  It's a hard call to say for sure either way until we actually see it for ourselves and see how it truly effects things.
One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.
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One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.
I don't believe there will be enough work for people at all times like you mentioned, AI will replace many people and there will be job crisis.

some people said with every new technology there will be new job open up, but they don't seem to understand that the new job is too specialized for the average people and the job are getting fewer in amount, company employ AI to reduce company expense at the cost of reducing the job. there's no way company will open up job for the sake of opening up job to feel morally good after doing significant change to their company employing AI with the sole purpose of reducing employees.

AI is only useful for people that can afford it.

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I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated, I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months.

If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.

I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer.



This is something that's causing a bit of tension in today's world but the best thing to do is pick a profession that can't be replaced by Ai because whether you like it or not there are some jobs that will always require human intellect, effort and input. This is actually something that's real and it's definitely going to happen but artificial intelligence cannot take over in every aspect after all they were created by humans. People can't go to ai's for therapy so this is a profession or job that can't be replaced and it will always require a human to do it, just like this job there are several others too

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The use of AI is not with bad intention to place havoc on human lives, instead, it was intended that we should enjoy the best of making our daily work come easier, the start from the things we do online and in physical, there have been many inventions that were ready to make us have the best experience from how we engage our daily routine works, AI is something we should forever be grateful on, because it brings about the simplicity of doing things.

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The use of AI is not with bad intention to place havoc on human lives, instead, it was intended that we should enjoy the best of making our daily work come easier, the start from the things we do online and in physical, there have been many inventions that were ready to make us have the best experience from how we engage our daily routine works, AI is something we should forever be grateful on, because it brings about the simplicity of doing things.
Yes it's true.
AI has made works very easy, mostly workers that works in a digital company, an AI can help them to generate any image that they want, it will also help them through cyber securities. With an AI someone can easily generate any kind of content that he wants, mostly images. Actually, AI has helped a lot and it has reduced work loads. Back in those days when a camera man will enter an airplane just to make a video from a higher ground, but now movie industries doesn't need a camera man or a pilot to make a video, they can easily use a drone to video anything from anywhere of their choice. However this is just to say that the world is getting modernize and a lot of things are changing as day passes.

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The use of AI is not with bad intention to place havoc on human lives, instead, it was intended that we should enjoy the best of making our daily work come easier, the start from the things we do online and in physical, there have been many inventions that were ready to make us have the best experience from how we engage our daily routine works, AI is something we should forever be grateful on, because it brings about the simplicity of doing things.
AI has archived some major growth in its development and continued popularity, getting into various fields and accomplishing tasks faster and more efficiently. Now, we have robotic chiefs, cooks and most field of work could actually have bots to work its facilities to full functionality. If this would be a threat to people having jobs, no!

We would need people to keep building these apps, AI, bots, coming up with innovative ideas for the next big change. AI isn’t going to do that for us, only humans can. Some jobs are better done by humans and that’s what theses innovations can’t take away. They are a mare accessory to what we would accomplish and nothing more.

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One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.

AI must be regulated to prevent turning into a complete disaster in the long run. We don't want it to become self-sufficient, do we? If you've watched the Terminator movies, you'll know what I'm talking about. In a world dominated by AI, people will be more lazy and dumb enough to do things. That's what new technologies do. They improve our lives, but make us dumber in the long run. Who would want to take the time to learn how to do something new, when AI can do it all in a breeze? I know this is what the "Elites" want to maximize profits. It will give them more power/control than usual.

Elon Musk said AI will replace human jobs in a few years, so you know where the world is heading to. Cost-efficiency and perfomance goes above all else, right? Cheesy

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Elon Musk said AI will replace human jobs in a few years, so you know where the world is heading to. Cost-efficiency and perfomance goes above all else, right? Cheesy

Do you really think that would happen? Few years seems to be a very short period of time. We have to many jobs that require hand labor or a human to operate, as well as to have a creativity approach. Some basic jobs can be replaced by AI, but until we have queues for service or product, there is no way AI is going to dominate.

And speaking about cost-efficiency, I dont know how much it will cost to prepare specialists, that will create a program that will build an algorithm that will replace a human labor, test it, build a machine that will do the task, but I think it will cost a lot. That machine that makes French fries that we see some posts above. It only puts chopped fries down in oil, pulls out and put aside. Still it requires a human to load fries. Still that machine needs maintenance. And I doubt it cost cheap to create it.

 
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If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?

Don’t you think that the after effect of all this revolutionary technologies has already been viewed from the past before investing all this. I see that there are still limitations to how far this AI things will go and most people will still find themselves living the good life and getting their jobs like before. More technology means more demand for labour, so I don’t think it’ll make more people unemployed but rather make the workforce larger.

Also, with new technologies come new jobs and new demand, and we've seen it happen many times in the past. People just need to learn to be more adaptable and to be ready to learn new skills to get new jobs, and things will be fine.

This is the misconception people are having, where they get it allow wrong about new technological inventions trying to take over the works of the people. As the technology is thriving and we’re seeing new features yearly, so is the humans are suppose to be transgressing to be on the same level as the newest technologies and that’s the best way to survive and keep yourself relevant in this forever changing new inventory space.


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One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.

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Elon Musk said AI will replace human jobs in a few years, so you know where the world is heading to. Cost-efficiency and perfomance goes above all else, right? Cheesy

Agree on this since to much adapting this technology will create huge crisis to humanity since it can take over everything especially those jobs which is important for people to survive. Being reliant on AI bring more downside that's why I really don't like to have wide usage of this technology even if this is so really useful to make the job or life of people easy. Those what you mean elites are the one who could benefit on this technology since they have more capabilities to do massive operation to create more better outputs by the help of this AI thing. If government will not do any action on this then lots of people will be left out and struggle to find good jobs since there would be a lot of competition to get those physical works available. Elon Musk statement is true and if there's no intervention or regulation done by government then provably that this will create a bigger problem to lots of people.

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September 13, 2024, 04:19:19 PM
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Elon Musk said AI will replace human jobs in a few years, so you know where the world is heading to. Cost-efficiency and perfomance goes above all else, right? Cheesy

Do you really think that would happen? Few years seems to be a very short period of time. We have to many jobs that require hand labor or a human to operate, as well as to have a creativity approach. Some basic jobs can be replaced by AI, but until we have queues for service or product, there is no way AI is going to dominate.

Jobs which will still require human contact or human emotions are going to prevail also those jobs which require human creativity won't be taken by AIs.
It won't take a few years, but as politicians do not seem in a rush to address the surge of this technology, I am afraid we will indeed see more and more jobs getting replaced by machines, for the sake of increasing profits, in the end, that is the mentality of the CEOs and investors, to cut expenses as much as possible and maximize their gains, greed from companies is what will make these robots widespread, even if governments try to regulate them.
The first jobs which are likely to be take are those related to cleaning, management of trash, driving... among others, jobs which require imagination, human morality and empathy are the less likely to be taken by robots in the short term.

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September 13, 2024, 04:43:35 PM
Last edit: September 13, 2024, 05:33:15 PM by o48o
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Elon Musk said AI will replace human jobs in a few years, so you know where the world is heading to. Cost-efficiency and perfomance goes above all else, right? Cheesy
Maybe we shouldn't listen Elon too much. He doesn't have that good track record on making predictions:

* 2019 he said that there will be a million autonomous robotaxis by Tesla in 2020.

* Hyperloop was a flop, yet he kept on hyping it up to the end.

* Humans were supposed to be in mars by 2024.

* In 2020 he predicted that there will be “probably close to zero new cases” of covid 19 in United Stated by the end of April.

* 2016: In 2 years there will be autonomous cars driving across the US

I could probably keep on going, but those came first to mind. So believing his AI prediction doesn't make sense to me.

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