Will AI taking people jobs and make the world worse?

[o48o]

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Elon Musk said AI will replace human jobs in a few years, so you know where the world is heading to. Cost-efficiency and perfomance goes above all else, right?

Maybe we shouldn't listen Elon too much. He doesn't have that good track record on making predictions:

* 2019 he said that there will be a million autonomous robotaxis by Tesla in 2020.

* Hyperloop was a flop, yet he kept on hyping it up to the end.

* Humans were supposed to be in mars by 2024.

* In 2020 he predicted that there will be “probably close to zero new cases” of covid 19 in United Stated by the end of April.

* 2016: In 2 years there will be autonomous cars driving across the US

I could probably keep on going, but those came first to mind. So believing his AI prediction doesn't make sense to me.

[Oluwa-btc]

In as much as the use of AI is advancing day by day, there are still some certain things and activities that will really requires the supervision of humans. The use of AI cannot take over all part of the world no matter how rapid it might grow. Also, there are still some undeveloped countries which are still advancing in technologies today. So no need for panic over the use of AI.

Exactly yes we know that the use of AI is widespread across the nations of the world but we can't underestimate the importance of humans before it existed, tho all this AI technology and robots are helpful in many ways to ease and fasten the work  for man but I think it's not best allowing it take over every aspects of man's life.
And I see it that alot of people that really love the use of AI technology are been reluctant and clumsy enough to do what's needed of them so they require special hands which they have made AI dominated. So in the aspect of taking people jobs I think it'll have a huge effect on humans and gradually the world at large cause yes instead of paying man for menisk jobs they'll rather make use of AI and robotics machine to carry on the task which will result to alot of damages.

[N.O]

I think its important to first off understand that AI doesn't actually exist yet.  It's in it's infancy and not real AI, or AGI yet.  When that day comes it really is hard to say what's actually going to be affected by it.  I think that it will certainly "take" some jobs but I think in other ways it might help create jobs.  It's a hard call to say for sure either way until we actually see it for ourselves and see how it truly effects things.

One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.

AI is very dangerous for the labourers because AI will work more than any labor. Machines can do work 24/7 but human can't do the work like a machine because machines are different from human. Machines are not Total alternative of human being because machines could not think creative . We will have a system to on and off the system but now we watching the labourers who are working are working in factories , they can suffer in future. In my country, people have no knowledge of entrepreneurship. People want to take wage only and they want to spend their money to buy food and useless for which Robert kiyosaki used the word liabilities.

[ChiBitCTy]

I think its important to first off understand that AI doesn't actually exist yet.  It's in it's infancy and not real AI, or AGI yet.  When that day comes it really is hard to say what's actually going to be affected by it.  I think that it will certainly "take" some jobs but I think in other ways it might help create jobs.  It's a hard call to say for sure either way until we actually see it for ourselves and see how it truly effects things.

One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.

AI is very dangerous for the labourers because AI will work more than any labor. Machines can do work 24/7 but human can't do the work like a machine because machines are different from human. Machines are not Total alternative of human being because machines could not think creative . We will have a system to on and off the system but now we watching the labourers who are working are working in factories , they can suffer in future. In my country, people have no knowledge of entrepreneurship. People want to take wage only and they want to spend their money to buy food and useless for which Robert kiyosaki used the word liabilities.

@Argo - AI DOES NOT EXIST. It’s honestly amazing to me that everyone keeps using this term, despite the fact that they really don’t know what AI or AGI really is.  ChatGPT is NOT “AI”, it’s advanced programming. Also, it is SHIT.  It does not self learn. It spits out different and incorrect answers to the same exact questions being asked at times. You can literally ask it the same thing 5 times in 5 mins and get 5 completely different answers each time, that aren’t correct. Also, it literally can’t even do a basic google search.  It’s advanced programming in some aspects “Please write me a letter to send my boss as to why I can’t make it on the work trip” which is cool, but it’s so ridiculously limited.

Also, no question AI  (self learning/aware, autonomous) is coming.  Thats a fact and a matter of time, like with quantum computing.  BUT, neither technically exist yet. If you’ve seen the movie “Her”, now THAT is AI. That’s the type of thing we could almost assuredly expect from it, IMO anyhow.

Like Quantum computing, AI will completely change our lives. It could wipe us off the face of the earth. It could take a lot of jobs etc.  We can only speculate.


I’m so sick of hearing that “AI did this” for mf everything these days. No, it, didn’t.  

https://www.newyorker.com/science/annals-of-artificial-intelligence/there-is-no-ai

[Lanatsa]

I think its important to first off understand that AI doesn't actually exist yet.  It's in it's infancy and not real AI, or AGI yet.  When that day comes it really is hard to say what's actually going to be affected by it.  I think that it will certainly "take" some jobs but I think in other ways it might help create jobs.  It's a hard call to say for sure either way until we actually see it for ourselves and see how it truly effects things.

One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.

AI is very dangerous for the labourers because AI will work more than any labor. Machines can do work 24/7 but human can't do the work like a machine because machines are different from human. Machines are not Total alternative of human being because machines could not think creative . We will have a system to on and off the system but now we watching the labourers who are working are working in factories , they can suffer in future. In my country, people have no knowledge of entrepreneurship. People want to take wage only and they want to spend their money to buy food and useless for which Robert kiyosaki used the word liabilities.

We cant really be able to deny that technological advancement is really inevitable and there's no way that we could be able to avoid when it comes into this aspect on which we know that everything do changes overtime and with the development of AI is something that not shocking on which of course, industries will really be that making of use of this advancement for less cost and having that more efficiency
when it comes on doing jobs on which as a boss or company owner then you would definitely be considering on having that switch up because you do know on what would really be that impact towards into your business on which it will really be something beneficial for them. This is why its not really shocking that they will really be having those changes and its not really something shocking kind of decision.

They will prioritize things on which it would really be that something will really be that useful into your business and wont really be sticking into those outdated things. As for workers point of view then this is something that will really be that sad thing because lay offs or being that removed to the company would really be that common or something that will really be likely to happen. This is why on the time or moment
that you do find yourself having such potential problems about certain industries that might be replaced with AI then as a worker then you should really be finding up ways on finding jobs that wont really
that affected if ever that changes will really be that hapen. This is why on the time that you have those realizations then act wisely and early so that you wont be putting up into a difficult situation.

[dezoel]

I do not think that we are going to get any worse just because of AI. We will get worse because we are already getting worse without AI, people who lived in the 60's didn't had what we had in technology, you didn't have world wide communication for free just to give an example, you didn't have reach to information as commonly as today, but also they didn't had any financial troubles as much as we did, they lived a happy life, a house, a car, two kids that go to college, all paid for by the time they are 40 and so forth. They retired fine as well, while we are having trouble buying even a car.

So, without AI we are getting worse, would it make it quicker? Maybe, depends on how good AI gets, the way it is right now won't make it quick because AI sucks right now, but if they can improve it, maybe it will help quicken the situation. So far, I believe that the best case would be just focusing on what we already have as issues, and not worry about future issues.

[Akbarkoe]

I do not think that we are going to get any worse just because of AI. We will get worse because we are already getting worse without AI, people who lived in the 60's didn't had what we had in technology, you didn't have world wide communication for free just to give an example, you didn't have reach to information as commonly as today, but also they didn't had any financial troubles as much as we did, they lived a happy life, a house, a car, two kids that go to college, all paid for by the time they are 40 and so forth. They retired fine as well, while we are having trouble buying even a car.

So, without AI we are getting worse, would it make it quicker? Maybe, depends on how good AI gets, the way it is right now won't make it quick because AI sucks right now, but if they can improve it, maybe it will help quicken the situation. So far, I believe that the best case would be just focusing on what we already have as issues, and not worry about future issues.

If we look back that before digitalization, work was very easy and very comfortable, even just for work, someone who lives in a village can live happily and be able to send their children to school and have a decent life even though a car is a tertiary need that is difficult to obtain since long ago, but with the arrival of digitalization, work is made easier and automated so that job vacancies that can be replaced to increase efficiency and effectiveness of performance, many companies or other field structures are automated which makes the job market narrow today.

Maybe you are right that currently AI is still bad and cannot replace work, only helping work for the time being, but what is feared is when this AI can be better and can be employed by a company, then there will be a time for us to no longer hope for that job, we can only hope for jobs that cannot be done by AI at that time.
My thinking may be the opposite of yours, that I have to think about how AI is developing rapidly and we are not yet prepared for it, so it is better to think from now on to find a solution on how to survive in the era when AI becomes an alternative for an industry to employ it instead of humans.

[STT]

The OP title is actually contradictory and its provable by reference to history.  Many times over we have invented technology which has 'taken jobs' and every time its been a positive, even for the people displaced they gain overall as part of a richer society.

What this is actually referencing is efficiency which is the core of every successful competitive business.   We sometimes fail to learn in life that not coming first is not failure, to run compete and complete the race is a positive.  If we only go forward in life with the attitude that winner takes all and nobody is involved in the economy bar those at the very top then sure the tech makes us worse attitude will make more sense I guess.    Increasingly people are empowered, if we can just shed this nonsense government deficit debt economy of inflationary FIAT it will soon become obvious.

[ivankoh]

My point of view is that AI will change the productivity of labor instead of humans in some industries. This may happen in the near future. Consulting, online call center, ... are very likely to be unemployed and they will have to look for a change with other jobs. This will increase the unemployment rate for human resources in the long run. Something may have to be adjusted more appropriately, if we say that AI brings a worse world, it is not because AI brings high efficiency, stability, accuracy will help humans in a very large scope, each country will be responsible for balancing the suitability and applying AI to the general human resource situation.

[CK485]

I do not think that we are going to get any worse just because of AI. We will get worse because we are already getting worse without AI, people who lived in the 60's didn't had what we had in technology, you didn't have world wide communication for free just to give an example, you didn't have reach to information as commonly as today, but also they didn't had any financial troubles as much as we did, they lived a happy life, a house, a car, two kids that go to college, all paid for by the time they are 40 and so forth. They retired fine as well, while we are having trouble buying even a car.

So, without AI we are getting worse, would it make it quicker? Maybe, depends on how good AI gets, the way it is right now won't make it quick because AI sucks right now, but if they can improve it, maybe it will help quicken the situation. So far, I believe that the best case would be just focusing on what we already have as issues, and not worry about future issues.

AI also has uses depending on whether we use it for something useful, and do not use things beyond that limit that will affect aspects of life, including AI, everything must have positive and negative sides that will be in the system, and of course it will not be separated from all of that.

[avp2306]

My point of view is that AI will change the productivity of labor instead of humans in some industries. This may happen in the near future. Consulting, online call center, ... are very likely to be unemployed and they will have to look for a change with other jobs. This will increase the unemployment rate for human resources in the long run. Something may have to be adjusted more appropriately, if we say that AI brings a worse world, it is not because AI brings high efficiency, stability, accuracy will help humans in a very large scope, each country will be responsible for balancing the suitability and applying AI to the general human resource situation.

Important for people to prepare in this situation since we there's really huge chance that AI will take over their jobs and for sure lots of corporation will prepare that since this will be the ideal technology to lower down the cost of their labor. So people should find good solution to seek for skills that can't replace by AI.

Unemployment might really happen if that situation came since for sure we can see a lot more innovation from AI technology in future. Lets do hope that there's regulation with this technology since this technology can really affect human life in terms of job take over.  There's should be a balance so there's no one will be left out around and people could still cope up with the market demand.

Here are pro's and cons of AI in job market https://www.linqto.com/blog/how-is-artificial-intelligence-impacting-the-job-market/ a really nice article to read.

[DOH!]

For AI, the development may be beyond our imagination. I heard someone give a model of research, experimenting with AI robots fighting on the battlefield instead of humans. Lol, back to the issue of AI can replace human jobs in the future, of course it will be a battle of human resource management of each country to consider the level of application for AI? Somehow, the competition in applying AI will become a challenge for humans, because they will likely fall into unemployment. Even I myself have to worry about my job, so be ready and try to change, adapt.

[Abiky]

My point of view is that AI will change the productivity of labor instead of humans in some industries. This may happen in the near future. Consulting, online call center, ... are very likely to be unemployed and they will have to look for a change with other jobs. This will increase the unemployment rate for human resources in the long run. Something may have to be adjusted more appropriately, if we say that AI brings a worse world, it is not because AI brings high efficiency, stability, accuracy will help humans in a very large scope, each country will be responsible for balancing the suitability and applying AI to the general human resource situation.

Does AI have an infrastructure that would help it scale in the mainstream world? I think not. Not while some places lack Internet access, and classical computers still exist. The advent of quantum computing and satellite Internet will solidify AI's place in the real world. It will help improve its performance and global outreach. Until then, don't expect the tech to go anywhere.

I know this is the future, especially when many companies are "shilling" it. Elon Musk's X.AI (the company of Grok AI) is one of them. The economy will change in ways you can't imagine. I don't think AI will harm the economy, but rather improve it. The benefits that come with such tech, are numerous. Perhaps, this will bring along new job opportunities in the long run. Every new industry brings new forms of labor. In the future, programmers, software developers, software engineers, AI experts/developers, etc will be in high demand. These are careers that can't be done by a machine. Technicians will also be necessary. People just need to "upgrade" themselves to whatever is trending at the moment. Only central banks have the power to either destroy or rebuild the economy in their favor. Who knows what will happen in the long run?

[icalical]

My point of view is that AI will change the productivity of labor instead of humans in some industries. This may happen in the near future. Consulting, online call center, ... are very likely to be unemployed and they will have to look for a change with other jobs. This will increase the unemployment rate for human resources in the long run. Something may have to be adjusted more appropriately, if we say that AI brings a worse world, it is not because AI brings high efficiency, stability, accuracy will help humans in a very large scope, each country will be responsible for balancing the suitability and applying AI to the general human resource situation.

It's no doubt that AI is going to alter industries like consulting and customer service by automating certain tasks, but it is not a job killer. Rather, in many cases, AI just complements human roles, making them more efficient. With AI handling basic inquiries at call centers, for example, humans become more important in solving complex, emotional tasks. Many jobs will evolve, and new ones will emerge, particularly in the areas of development and oversight of AI. The trick, of course, will be to manage this transition with proper reskilling so that people can actually adapt and move forward in the face of such AI-driven changes.

[Kcrypto18]

AI is definitely changing the job landscape, and it’s true that not everyone wants to transition to tech-based roles. But I think people will eventually adapt to this change and find new ways to contribute to the world. Did we not have similar concerns when things like advance machinery and the internet were developed?

AI also remains to be very expensive so I wonder if they will be cost-effective for smaller companies. They may not be able to invest in AI when you consider the upfront cost and maintenance of AI technology compared to human labor.

[STT]

All of Elon's claims you should insert a double size font and the word could .   Its a maybe, its possible but is it profitable to rush for that objective right now.   Have we found any point to going to Mars for example, its a very long way and likely involves people never coming back.

   To achieve what, is the larger question on that whole list of tech maybes, if it doesn't serve society especially expect it to go nowhere .   AI is not cheap but if its possible to utilize wasted cycles or processing power for a bonus or useful task results then it will be an ongoing growth sector.

[samiahmed19999]

I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated, I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months.

If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.

I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer.

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I have read your information. The country which is less population will not have any problem in near future because their country can feed them food. However, country like us which has population over 18,000,00,00+ will have more impact. The reason is that AI Robot will replace our remittance from Middle East. Then, if we get cheaper human robot from china then whole world AI Robot will be replacing except manufacturing countries.

Obviously, high level degree will get job for 100 times salary then now. Many think that AI will not replace job but will ease human works. This is not correct if work become easy than why businessman will hire human.

There may be more complex problem will come.

[Abiky]

All of Elon's claims you should insert a double size font and the word could .   Its a maybe, its possible but is it profitable to rush for that objective right now.   Have we found any point to going to Mars for example, its a very long way and likely involves people never coming back.

   To achieve what, is the larger question on that whole list of tech maybes, if it doesn't serve society especially expect it to go nowhere .   AI is not cheap but if its possible to utilize wasted cycles or processing power for a bonus or useful task results then it will be an ongoing growth sector.

Of course. AI isn't cheap. Especially, when it's a new tech that's widely unproven. Like I've stated before, there isn't an infrastructure that would hold AI together. Same as EVs (Electric Vehicles). Without an infrastructure for these new kinds of technologies, how can we expect the masses to adopt them?

Companies find AI highly-beneficial to them, but a lot of customers still don't know how to use it. AI is still in its infancy. It's far from being perfect. I think it'll take decades before AI can make an impact on the world economy. Just sit back and relax. I'm sure everything will be fine.

[JeffBrad12]

All of Elon's claims you should insert a double size font and the word could .   Its a maybe, its possible but is it profitable to rush for that objective right now.   Have we found any point to going to Mars for example, its a very long way and likely involves people never coming back.

   To achieve what, is the larger question on that whole list of tech maybes, if it doesn't serve society especially expect it to go nowhere .   AI is not cheap but if its possible to utilize wasted cycles or processing power for a bonus or useful task results then it will be an ongoing growth sector.

elon is just scare mongering in this regard, he even also actively invests in various AI technology, his platform also AI integrated, but technology isn't all about increasing efficiency, AI can replace people but government can also impose law to prevent such thing from massively happening.

if there's robot utilization, maybe government will impose higher tax to support lower class that lives in poverty, things won't turn dystopian just because AI exist, I think pretty much in the future once the regulation is already created, things will stabilize and AI will just become a tool, and replacing wokrforce with AI entirely might seem unethical.

[ovcijisir]

Few years ago in my country there was opening of robot restaurant where special robots prepared food. Don't t know for waiters, but I believe they had human waiters.

Restaurant was opened for year or two, and now it's permanently closed.

When this restaurant opened I thought that food served there will be cheaper than competition, because they didn't hire human cooks, but when I checked price list it was the same as competing restaurants. There was simply no upsides in comparison to other restaurants. Maybe for tech enthusiasts who wanted to check new thing, but I believe they did not have regular customers and when hype around it diminished it just closed the doors.

So I believe that AI and robots will take some jobs, but only if it lowers cost of final product in comparison to competing products.