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July 08, 2024, 05:10:38 PM
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Yesterday I played free card games on the computer and had a lot of fun and it was also quite exciting. You know, I play different games: both paid and free. And sometimes, based on the fascination and the pleasure I get, I find it difficult to say which games captivate me more. But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?

I didn’t get your question. What do you mean by free games? The games that you play to kill your time for free? Are you referring to this? Or are you telling that the games where you can play for free and can get money in return? To be honest, neither of the above scenarios is considered to be gambling. Generally, in gambling, you gamble your hard-earned money by taking risks to earn some extra money. If this activity is not involved, then no matter what you do, it cannot be considered gambling. You are just using a faucet to try your luck to win big from the freebies.

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July 08, 2024, 07:49:15 PM
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If free casino games were gambling, what would be the definition of gambling then? Right now it's betting something, be it money, or physical things of value, on a risky action, or a chain of events, in hope of wining more. If we were to call playing free games gambling, then chess with a friend where you say that you will win and so does he, would be gambling. It of course is not, but had you bet money on the game, it would've been gambling. If you bet your friend a dollar that you can win against him in arm wrestling and he agrees, you're gambling. If you play poker with a friend without betting anything, you are no gambling.

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July 08, 2024, 08:52:33 PM
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Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?
Gambling is simply an act of risking an item, with the mindset of having something big in return, only if your prediction goes as planned, hence, if there is nothing place at risk or nothing to lose, then it can not be considered as gambling, but rather an ordinary game played for fun or body exercises just like football or basketball played for both physical and mental fitness.


If you bet your friend a dollar that you can win against him in arm wrestling and he agrees, you're gambling. If you play poker with a friend without betting anything, you are no gambling.
Yes, that's true, because in as much as an activity lacks the present of money or any valuable items been put at risk, then it can't be called gambling.

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July 08, 2024, 10:33:43 PM
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Yesterday I played free card games on the computer and had a lot of fun and it was also quite exciting. You know, I play different games: both paid and free. And sometimes, based on the fascination and the pleasure I get, I find it difficult to say which games captivate me more. But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?

Well, I think it's a matter of "grammar" here, since free games is what it is, it's intrinsic, correct.
On the other hand, you are making a bet, it is called gambling for that very reason, you expect a return, but regardless of that, chance dominates both of you.

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July 08, 2024, 10:40:47 PM
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Yesterday I played free card games on the computer and had a lot of fun and it was also quite exciting. You know, I play different games: both paid and free. And sometimes, based on the fascination and the pleasure I get, I find it difficult to say which games captivate me more. But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?

I think that gambling becomes when passion awakens in you. And it doesn’t matter what you use money, candy wrappers or apples, if you are interested and have a desire to win, then most likely this game will be a gamble. What I mean is that the state of your heart tells you whether gambling is for you or not. Your attitude towards this game speaks about this, not money or anything else.

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July 08, 2024, 11:12:16 PM
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Yesterday I played free card games on the computer and had a lot of fun and it was also quite exciting. You know, I play different games: both paid and free. And sometimes, based on the fascination and the pleasure I get, I find it difficult to say which games captivate me more. But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?

I don't think it is.  If you aremt gambling anything and the risk is zero what exactly would you be gambling (willing to lose).  Can't even say time because no matter what you lose time.  And for the other question no free games don't do it for me in terms of the excitement.  If I ha e $10 on a sports game that I otherwise wouldn't have a vested interest I am then into it.  No real money on that same game and I probably turn it off before it's over.

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July 08, 2024, 11:14:47 PM
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Yesterday I played free card games on the computer and had a lot of fun and it was also quite exciting. You know, I play different games: both paid and free. And sometimes, based on the fascination and the pleasure I get, I find it difficult to say which games captivate me more. But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?

I think that gambling becomes when passion awakens in you. And it doesn’t matter what you use money, candy wrappers or apples, if you are interested and have a desire to win, then most likely this game will be a gamble. What I mean is that the state of your heart tells you whether gambling is for you or not. Your attitude towards this game speaks about this, not money or anything else.

So are you saying that joining a singing contest is gambling in its form?  It was a clear definition that the presence of gambling is something that needs to meet certain requirements.  Playing and aiming to win a price can't be called gambling if it is missing a certain factor called a stake.  It said that there are three core elements to be present to consider an action as gambling[1] and these are:

consideration (stake)
risk
the prize

It is clearly stated that attitude can't be the basis for whether the action is gambling or not but the presence of these three core elements.



[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

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July 08, 2024, 11:57:04 PM
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Yesterday I played free card games on the computer and had a lot of fun and it was also quite exciting. You know, I play different games: both paid and free. And sometimes, based on the fascination and the pleasure I get, I find it difficult to say which games captivate me more. But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?
For me, some free games are only available just for advertising, where some platforms will lure you to start deposit money, some free games have a high chance of winnings so you think and feel you are lucky because of the winning.

For me, gambling is always needed a money, it's not free.

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July 09, 2024, 08:04:16 AM
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For me, some free games are only available just for advertising, where some platforms will lure you to start deposit money, some free games have a high chance of winnings so you think and feel you are lucky because of the winning.

For me, gambling is always needed a money, it's not free.

What about two things:

1) people can replace money with other valuable things, like cigarettes in prison for example. Instead of money they bet them, or food in gambling. Are you saying that they dont gamble, but instead do something else? Or kids used chewing gums in my childhood for betting.

2) if free games are for advertising, then why in some casinos you can play free games and win real money? Or participate in freeroll tournaments in poker and win money. Isnt it gambling ?

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July 09, 2024, 08:58:55 AM
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Nope, free games do not fall into class of gambling, they  just  facilitate the self-deception in people who play them because they eliminate the lost threshold. True gamblers are always  balancing between win and lose with an eye on their bankrolls. I think that free games are more for kids rather than for mature gamblers.

P.S. I never encountered the gaming shops that offered free games to their visitors.

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July 09, 2024, 09:20:10 AM
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I didn’t get your question. What do you mean by free games? The games that you play to kill your time for free? Are you referring to this? Or are you telling that the games where you can play for free and can get money in return? To be honest, neither of the above scenarios is considered to be gambling. Generally, in gambling, you gamble your hard-earned money by taking risks to earn some extra money. If this activity is not involved, then no matter what you do, it cannot be considered gambling. You are just using a faucet to try your luck to win big from the freebies.

Playing for free and win money in return is not gambling? I think gambling has to do with anything that involves either staking money or winning money. It’s not necessarily you wager the bet with your own hard earned money. If casinos offer you a free bet on their sites, it means they have wager the game on your behalf and you expecting to win money in return has made it become a gambling.

Your first assumption question is what can not be regarded as a gambling since there’s no wager and expected outcome involved. In this scenario, the game is purely for fun and entertainment in order to probably kill time. Demo games can also be classified under this category because the wager and winning are not real assets and can not be used outside the demo account. As far as it involves real assets, it’s gambling.

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July 09, 2024, 09:34:51 AM
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Nope, free games do not fall into class of gambling, they  just  facilitate the self-deception in people who play them because they eliminate the lost threshold. True gamblers are always  balancing between win and lose with an eye on their bankrolls. I think that free games are more for kids rather than for mature gamblers.

P.S. I never encountered the gaming shops that offered free games to their visitors.

I think gambling has to do with anything that involves either staking money or winning money.

Since free games are not gambling, then I can play poker with game money in front of kids ? Cheesy You dont lose anything, dont balance between placing a bet or buying a meal. No money involved. A kid dont risk anything, meaning nothing destroy the child's psyche. Perfect. A solution to Never gamble in front of your kids. is found. If anyone got caught gambling, just say you play with pay money and the game is fake.

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Since free games are not gambling, then I can play poker with game money in front of kids ? Cheesy You dont lose anything, dont balance between placing a bet or buying a meal. No money involved. A kid dont risk anything, meaning nothing destroy the child's psyche. Perfect. A solution to Never gamble in front of your kids. is found. If anyone got caught gambling, just say you play with pay money and the game is fake.
 

Grin Grin there’s a little mix up here I think. Either paid gambling or free gaming, playing some sort type of games in front of children is not ideal to avoid causing distraction. I read through the link you attached but I see it as a justification of my earlier comment.

In that post, the poster emphasized on the use of money for gambling and how children might be tempted to steal money in order to play. Children play games like words scrabble, whot, ludo etc and yes, we can not refer these as gambling. I think there’s need for clarity on gambling and games here.

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July 09, 2024, 10:34:07 AM
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But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling.
For example, the cards you are talking about are traditionally considered gambling. Even without bets.

Another way to put this is: can gambling be free?
Betting is almost a mandatory attribute of gambling, but these same games can be played without bets. There are quite a few things (card games) that I (and my peers) did in childhood.

I could say that those games in which there is gambling excitement can be considered gambling, but I think this is not an entirely accurate formulation. Because gambling without bets is the same as non-alcoholic beer. Smiley

Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?
In this case, I perceive such games as entertainment. And with bets, it’s first and foremost the desire to win and only then, entertainment.

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July 09, 2024, 10:44:09 AM
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Yesterday I played free card games on the computer and had a lot of fun and it was also quite exciting. You know, I play different games: both paid and free. And sometimes, based on the fascination and the pleasure I get, I find it difficult to say which games captivate me more. But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling.

Free games doesn’t contain thrill factor in the game since it doesn’t contain risk and also you can’t enjoy after the game even if you win huge amount since it’s not real money. But the advantage of playing free games is you can be entertained without losing money. The only difference is the level of entertainment is low compared when you gamble.

Gambling is a double edge sword which can make you too happy or sad depending on the result of the game which you can’t get by playing free games.

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Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?

To answer this simply free games can be entertaining but not on gambling level entertainment and free games can’t be considered as gambling because it doesn’t contain risk.

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Nothing excites more than the feeling of money coming in. Grin

Of course there are so many free card games and all on the internet. They are good for time pass but it is only gambling if you are putting real money in it. I would not use the term "free gambling" like some others have mentioned. They are card games and that is it.

It gambling only if money is involved, not otherwise, in my opinion.

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Yesterday I played free card games on the computer and had a lot of fun and it was also quite exciting. You know, I play different games: both paid and free. And sometimes, based on the fascination and the pleasure I get, I find it difficult to say which games captivate me more. But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?

I am absolutely sure that free games can be addictive.  I can describe an example: on our forum there is a casino, the name of which I will not describe.  So, it offers to spin your slots and earn points.  I mean that the gambler does not need to pay, he simply plays slots for points.  And the gambler who made the most money during the day will receive a cash prize.  It turns out that gamblers are given slots for free, but at the same time have a chance to earn money.  Only during the spins you can easily become addicted.

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July 09, 2024, 12:12:04 PM
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If free casino games were gambling, what would be the definition of gambling then? Right now it's betting something, be it money, or physical things of value, on a risky action, or a chain of events, in hope of wining more. If we were to call playing free games gambling, then chess with a friend where you say that you will win and so does he, would be gambling. It of course is not, but had you bet money on the game, it would've been gambling. If you bet your friend a dollar that you can win against him in arm wrestling and he agrees, you're gambling. If you play poker with a friend without betting anything, you are no gambling.
Good response here. It can only be considered gambling when it involves risk. And what is the definition of risk? Risk has to do with something that there is uncertainty and the probability of something bad happening. We gamble to win intentionally, but there is a certainty that we can lose and the probability is high. When we stake or bet with free spins or demo money then it is not considered gambling at all. What OP has been doing is practicing with free bets. In trading we can call it demo trading.

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Playing free gambling games by playing gambling games using real money, makes the gambling game experience more interesting and exciting. By playing free gambling games, you can hone your skills and strategies without having to worry about losing real money. In addition, you can also enjoy the thrill and excitement of gambling games without financial pressure. don't hesitate to try playing free gambling games and experience the excitement for yourself!
But of course playing with real money, the sensation is much more stressful, keep in mind that if you play using real money, you really have to be mentally calm.

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can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?

Gambling can't be free, putting money on game of chances is called gambling, if there is no money involved there is no gambling, without money it'd be just be a normal game that children's play or regular folks play to pass the time.

..and no free games don't excite me as much as games with money involved, but I still can have fun when playing free card games with friends.

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