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July 19, 2024, 12:17:29 AM
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Sometimes the concept of developing as a player can be ambiguous, because developing as a player can have many paths, whether it is knowing each game, whether it is having many years playing, whether it is having a lot of experience, but for me particularly and specifically developing as a player means being a player who has more wins than losses in his balance, and that for me is developing as a player, because development has many aspects like the ones I mentioned before , but basically I Would say that a player would have a tendency towards success.

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July 19, 2024, 01:39:24 AM
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Yes, I already learned many things in betting. The progressing as a player is not much as I don't place a bet too often. But I guess from learning from many sources helps me to improve my skills but I still needs to learn more. If that is about risk and money management, I guess I can handle better than in the past because I know when I can place my bet and when I should not place my bet. Handling the emotion will be my concern as that can helps me to prevent to spend more money in betting. But if that is about the bet, I think I needs to developing my skills because I still lose many times than wins.

I am not trying to recover my lose as that can only makes me lose more money. I feels that betting in sports must have skills to predict the winner so that is why we must keeps learning about analysis so we can know the team that have big chance to win.

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July 19, 2024, 04:26:45 AM
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Sometimes the concept of developing as a player can be ambiguous, because developing as a player can have many paths, whether it is knowing each game, whether it is having many years playing, whether it is having a lot of experience, but for me particularly and specifically developing as a player means being a player who has more wins than losses in his balance, and that for me is developing as a player, because development has many aspects like the ones I mentioned before , but basically I Would say that a player would have a tendency towards success.
But if the definition of developing as player is just that the balance of wins is much greater than the number of losses, is it easy to achieve?
In reality, players always have small odds and the real advantage belongs to the house edge or the dealer, they have everything to be able to gain more profits because they are in business and we are just people who deposit money to spend.
Losing in gambling is always guaranteed and winning is just small opportunity to return the losses that we have previously experienced, this is how gambling really works and as players we can never avoid all of that except with luck.

I personally define development for player as when they are able to lose an acceptable amount of money and are able to control themselves to minimize risks.
Gambling is full of risks and bad impacts, so far very few gamblers have been able to avoid them.

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July 19, 2024, 05:29:04 AM
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I don't get why many people think that gambling is a serious thing to deal with and think we can make more money and more profit; in fact, it is designed for entertainment, not as a resource.

If you are not doing this for fun, you are not gambling anyway. 

Anyway, as a gambler, I learned not to fall into addiction, which was the best thing I did after many years of doing this. And I accept that even though we have been betting for many years and discovering new strategies, winning is impossible without luck. The situation never changes, which is why I still lose, as this is how gambling works. 

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July 19, 2024, 06:37:59 AM
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Yes, I have a lot of improvement and I must say I do not lose as much as I did before which means I have learned from the mistakes I do make and perhaps I have come to realize a different pattern or strategy that has helped limit my loss and grant me more win. Previously I bet on various kind of casino games and it took me time to realize that I have to have one pick and adjust to knowing how it works. I get to see myself getting familiar with sports betting and roulette, which is luckier than in any other online casino game.
That's a good one,
It's nice you've been able to access your gambling habits and discovered where you weren't getting it right and corrected and improved on it, it shows how responsible a gambler you are.
There's absolutely reason for gamblers to improve their strategies and make some certain changes if they discovered they're losing more often, especially those are relatively new to gambling, I'm made to understand that a lot of new gamblers out there often came into gambling having the wring perspective about gambling and setting quute unrealistic goals for themselves, and this often results to losses and even more losses, so such a persom should try as much as possible to be able to make adjustments and improvements on their technique, approaches and possibly goals too.

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July 19, 2024, 10:07:38 AM
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I want to ask everyone interested in the topic of betting a question: are you developing as a betting player? Now I don't mean casino games that are completely dependent on luck. I write about sports and other bets in which you can make a profit in the long term, although it is very difficult and the percentage of such players is very small.
I love to believe that its purely dependent on luck, Moreso to deceive my subconscious not to take it more seriously in any case, because any other mentality employed would see me being more serious in gambling again, I love to explore in detail whatever I pick interest no matter the price to be paid in it and I don't think I'm choosing gambling again for such a ride.

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I also ask that those who “play for fun” not take part in the discussion. Such people, in my opinion, have little valuable to say on this topic.
 If you take your entire gaming history, would you say that you have learned anything during this time?
In other words, are you progressing as a player? Is your strategy improving? Is the quality of risk management and money management improving? Have you learned to control your emotions? Are your winning statistics stable? Do losses keep you out of the game? Have you learned to recover from losses? Are you getting better at predicting the results of sports matches?
yeah, my risk, emotional and financial management is improving over the years of my conscious good gambling involvement, I don't try to recover from any losses since I gamble with what I can loose and yeah, I've improved in predicting the outcomes of football matches because I watch a lot of them myself, follow up the news on the state of teams, players fitness, availability and I'm able to analyze outcomes very cleanly to get more wins when luck is by my side.











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July 19, 2024, 11:55:13 AM
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I don't get why many people think that gambling is a serious thing to deal with and think we can make more money and more profit; in fact, it is designed for entertainment, not as a resource.


Maybe that's what they see to other people, they only look for their gains but not the struggle for winning those prizes. But if they would know the whole truth about what those people experience and how much money they spend before they got that win maybe they get disappointed then just think about to gamble just for fun.

If you are not doing this for fun, you are not gambling anyway. 

Anyway, as a gambler, I learned not to fall into addiction, which was the best thing I did after many years of doing this. And I accept that even though we have been betting for many years and discovering new strategies, winning is impossible without luck. The situation never changes, which is why I still lose, as this is how gambling works. 

Still gambling if there's money involve, But if they do it for free and use demo account then that's not gambling but rather they just want to have fun without losing anything.

That's how we develop ourselves since we are now far away to became an gambling addict since we know the consequences. Its just we realize that it doesn't give us any assurance and we are doing it just to spice up our daily activities with no intention to exceed on our limits.

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July 19, 2024, 12:19:54 PM
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I don't get why many people think that gambling is a serious thing to deal with and think we can make more money and more profit; in fact, it is designed for entertainment, not as a resource.

If you are not doing this for fun, you are not gambling anyway. 

Anyway, as a gambler, I learned not to fall into addiction, which was the best thing I did after many years of doing this. And I accept that even though we have been betting for many years and discovering new strategies, winning is impossible without luck. The situation never changes, which is why I still lose, as this is how gambling works. 
That's because they some people out there can wins much money so their minds keeps telling them to keeps trying to playing gambling. That makes them keeps playing gambling and use more and more money to wins the games. They are trying to developing themselves by learning more about betting and hopes that they can wins.

I also learned some lesson about betting although I realizes that I am not good as the other gamblers. I still gets losses in betting but I keep trying to learn more about analysis. I know it's difficult to be a pro gamblers so I don't choose that way as I realizes the risks will be bigger for me. Learning strategy in betting is a must but you should not trying to hard because while you learning the strategy, you needs to use some money to test and find the work strategy. Without using money, you will not know which strategy that will work so you must strictly limiting your money. But we will difficult to wins in gambling because casino will be the last winners and takes the biggest profit than the gamblers.

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July 19, 2024, 12:58:13 PM
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Sometimes the concept of developing as a player can be ambiguous, because developing as a player can have many paths, whether it is knowing each game, whether it is having many years playing, whether it is having a lot of experience, but for me particularly and specifically developing as a player means being a player who has more wins than losses in his balance, and that for me is developing as a player, because development has many aspects like the ones I mentioned before , but basically I Would say that a player would have a tendency towards success.

I also understand the concept of developing as a player is about winning. Because of course, after playing gambling for a long time, there are definitely many things that we can get automatically. Developing in terms of analyzing a match, we gain a lot of experience, develop strategically and many other things that we get automatically, especially in choosing the type of game and how it works. However, this also depends on how we respond to it, if we respond well it will lead to being a responsible gambler and vice versa.

However, of all these developments, of course the main goal is to seek victory, because even though gambling is just for fun, seeking victory is always a priority, especially if we develop in achieving victory, of course this is a form of our success in gambling. because without winning when gambling it will be very boring and will even make us stop gambling.

 
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Taking into account the fact that betting has changed quite a lot in recent years (the reason is big data and AI, which remove most of the bookmaker’s weak points before the betters can find them), it seems to me that everyone who is more or less involved in this area has also changed. It is necessary to adapt to new circumstances and one way or another this happens to everyone, but another question is how many professional betters have not at least worsened their position relative to bookmakers over these years of changes.

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July 20, 2024, 05:43:50 AM
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Anyway, as a gambler, I learned not to fall into addiction, which was the best thing I did after many years of doing this. And I accept that even though we have been betting for many years and discovering new strategies, winning is impossible without luck. The situation never changes, which is why I still lose, as this is how gambling works. 

I’ve reached a similar conclusion myself. After many years of trying to develop the perfect strategy, I realized it is a futile effort. Any luck based game with a house edge will always result in the player being unprofitable over a long period of time. Any time someone is able to win big, it will be purely due to luck and not strategy, their success will also only be temporary.

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I want to ask everyone interested in the topic of betting a question: are you developing as a betting player?
My answer is No, but don't get me wrong, it's because I am a developed player already, I am satisfied with this current status and I do not want to develop more than this to avoid complicating myself.

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If you take your entire gaming history, would you say that you have learned anything during this time?
In my experience, gambling has never been complicated for me. Before I started sports betting almost 2 decades ago, I knew what I wanted and I've stuck with it without any compromise and has been helping me till today. So, my game and rules stand the same, nothing to review and nothing to change.

As for the casino aspect, I accept it for what it is, so it will be a waste of time trying to further chase a shadow.

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July 20, 2024, 08:22:39 AM
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I don't get why many people think that gambling is a serious thing to deal with and think we can make more money and more profit; in fact, it is designed for entertainment, not as a resource.

If you are not doing this for fun, you are not gambling anyway. 

Anyway, as a gambler, I learned not to fall into addiction, which was the best thing I did after many years of doing this. And I accept that even though we have been betting for many years and discovering new strategies, winning is impossible without luck. The situation never changes, which is why I still lose, as this is how gambling works. 
I agree, which is why I don't see a valid reason the OP stated not to post if you're into gambling for entertainment. I find it a little too absolute to mention that such users cannot contribute to the discussion.

Gambling is supposed to be an entertaining activity, involving the aspect of money, of course; that's what keeps us going. I'm playing for fun as well, but I consider myself a responsible gambler who is able to control his emotions and not go on a frenzy just because I won or lost a few games. On top of that, I'm staying within budget the majority of the time. I've become a lot better at analyzing football matches; I'm not implying that I'm experienced, but the Euro 2024 championship went a lot better than expected, winning the largest majority of my bets.

 
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I don't think I have developed much as a bettor has others could have in the same period of time. Mostly, because the bulk of my accumulated wager had gone to casino games: those are dices and some occasional blackjack. I mostly like to bet and partake in Sportbetting when big enough events are going on, like the Copa America or the football world cup, otherwise I feel some laziness and unwillingness to participate on it.
As It stands today, my ability has only developed to the extent I don't trust odds as much as a newbie would. During the Copa America I took a look at some of the matches and I realized that I would have lost money if I had decided to bet in favor of the team I thought to be more skillful, because of that, I try to be more careful on what I do with the limited money I locate to betting/rollings dices.

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I think the development with gambling isn't gradual but rather quite simple.

So long as you realize that there are no surewins and no perfect predictions, then you will also see that betting is also chance based and casinos know to set the odds so that most money ends up to them. It's not something you can beat consistently and definitely the odds are against you in the long run no matter how good you might be with predictions.

So once you come to these realizations you are now more mature because you can see gambling as a game and not as a job or profit generating activity. Your goal would be to have fun and minimize losses instead of chase profits that are unattainable. In this manner I'd like to hope that most people who gamble for a long time have achieved this development.

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Anyway, as a gambler, I learned not to fall into addiction, which was the best thing I did after many years of doing this. And I accept that even though we have been betting for many years and discovering new strategies, winning is impossible without luck. The situation never changes, which is why I still lose, as this is how gambling works. 

I’ve reached a similar conclusion myself. After many years of trying to develop the perfect strategy, I realized it is a futile effort. Any luck based game with a house edge will always result in the player being unprofitable over a long period of time. Any time someone is able to win big, it will be purely due to luck and not strategy, their success will also only be temporary.

Yes, you have experienced it and now you know the truth, no matter how hard you try to solve the algorithm created by the casino with the aim of getting lots of big wins, you will still never be able to make it happen. Because after all those who create games are the casinos that provide games to play, and therefore I think it doesn't make sense to try various ways to get lots of big wins, and now you have realized that all of that is just a waste of your time. .

But it's good because at least now you know all the facts. Basically, gambling is a game of probability, which means nothing more than chance, and of course isn't chance something that won't necessarily happen? Yes, I think it's clear, so let's open our eyes and don't be fooled by our own expectations, because after all and forever there will be no significant results with just a little effort, and if you really want to get a lot money then of course there is no other choice but to work.

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You are asking about our experience as sports bettors and the progress of this journey, simply there will be a lot to discuss here, from the beginning of this journey in our first days until what we became now, our results and the difference from first day until now.
Simply, this experience should be only for having fun not primarily focused on making money. As in my own experience, I have never played that much or focused to win every bet, it is still a game of luck after all even with football.

Something that anyone can notice, like me, it’s the news and following up with every team updates, players, management of the club, circumstances of that match and its importance. In my first days, I wasn’t following up with the matches I was betting on, which lead to mostly losing my bets.
After many times and analysis, I have come to a closure that the more you are following up with the news and details of the match before its start, you will have a clear image and better risk and return chances.

This development in the outcome, needs a little bit of efforts, searching and learning about every team before the game, then when it comes to setting a bet, it will be more clear for you the risk you would like to take.

I enjoy my betting activity even more after experiencing a lot of things, with time it became a better fun activity and still from the beginning, I have never looked at sports betting to generate an outcome, but to have more fun while following that game.

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Anyway, as a gambler, I learned not to fall into addiction, which was the best thing I did after many years of doing this. And I accept that even though we have been betting for many years and discovering new strategies, winning is impossible without luck. The situation never changes, which is why I still lose, as this is how gambling works. 

I’ve reached a similar conclusion myself. After many years of trying to develop the perfect strategy, I realized it is a futile effort. Any luck based game with a house edge will always result in the player being unprofitable over a long period of time. Any time someone is able to win big, it will be purely due to luck and not strategy, their success will also only be temporary.

I think that conclusion is not an empty conclusion and we must consider the fact of that experience because it doesn't only happen to you, I am the same way, which basically if you look for profit from gambling in the long run it will be very difficult and almost impossible, especially in games based on luck, there is no right strategy in my opinion to be able to get consistent wins.

Even in some skill-based games it is the same, but maybe much better and the possibility of winning can go up over time and learn the strategy but even in that game luck is one of the decisive factors as well if our opponents are equally skilled.

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Yes, I already learned many things in betting. The progressing as a player is not much as I don't place a bet too often. But I guess from learning from many sources helps me to improve my skills but I still needs to learn more. If that is about risk and money management, I guess I can handle better than in the past because I know when I can place my bet and when I should not place my bet. Handling the emotion will be my concern as that can helps me to prevent to spend more money in betting. But if that is about the bet, I think I needs to developing my skills because I still lose many times than wins.

I am not trying to recover my lose as that can only makes me lose more money. I feels that betting in sports must have skills to predict the winner so that is why we must keeps learning about analysis so we can know the team that have big chance to win.

Making improvements doesn't seem simple, but the little steps I've made at advancing my gambling and gaming experience have been meaningfully beneficial in securing my funds and time. Also tried to research alternative strategies that'll increase chances of winning, but didn't bother much at it after none apparently worked. Subsequently, after, reading multiple gambling books, for improvement purposes, I concluded at settling my emotions and focus on devising emotional safeguarding strategies that'll enhance how I feel after a losing streak. Such things as visiting gambling communities and reading other player's thoughts increased  my emotional control against feeling hurt after losing, and kept me content enough not to go after the losses.

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July 20, 2024, 06:42:44 PM
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Sometimes the concept of developing as a player can be ambiguous, because developing as a player can have many paths, whether it is knowing each game, whether it is having many years playing, whether it is having a lot of experience, but for me particularly and specifically developing as a player means being a player who has more wins than losses in his balance, and that for me is developing as a player, because development has many aspects like the ones I mentioned before , but basically I Would say that a player would have a tendency towards success.

There is no way you will develop as a player in the aspect of risk tolerance, choice of picks to include in your bet, certainty instead of doubt then of course you will have more wins than losses with time. The reason is that all of this is connected and if you have developed in all these areas then you have developed a mentality, financially, and discipline as a gambler.

These typically point out that the area will need to look out for development as a gambler. So many people today do not take note of these things when they are gambling and year to year they still have the same gambling result. If they see people who are succeeding as a gamblers they feel it is typically based on luck. Yes, luck is involved but most times we can only be near to being lucky if our strategy for gambling is well-defined. We can just jump into gambling all the time and expect magic to happen. 

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