My advice: A gambling addict brother.

[GeorgeJohn]

But, later in the day I started feeling bad for advising a brother not to help his own brother when he's in need of help he can give due to my sentiment against gambling addiction.

what do you guys think about this?

If a sibling has shown themselves incapable to handle a business, there is no need starting a business for them when they will surely run it down. You can keep assisting them in little ways with money for little things that are essential, as a way of still expressing your love and blood relationship, but with a problem like gambling addiction, starting a business with this problem is a waste, the person will never understand and value the business.

You're right, because anyone empower and fails to utilize the opportunity given to him or her for the first and gave the person a trial and the person failed for the second time, I don't think that you need to assist the person again,  because it's obvious that the person might neither contribute almost eighty-five percent of your downfall if not hundred percent of your downfall, for me assistance for empowerment to humanity should not be done more than twice else they will ruin your life.

[TelolettOm]

Honestly, gambling addiction will not be easily cured without really appropriate and serious treatment, as well as a strong desire from the addicted gambler. It won't end even if his older brother or whoever gives him loans again and again, in fact it will trigger him to gamble again and again.

My personal experience is that my brother, who had gone all out, even breaking up his family, was now finally being put in a rehabilitation center for treatment for his slot gambling addiction. and until now, several months later, he is still there, it's quite bad because he seems to be in a daze and has a mental disorder.

What's worse, he just had a baby who is under 1 year old, his house and all the assets of him and his parents and even his in-laws have been used up to pay off his debts, and this still leaves more than $30k in debt. Just imagine what his family's condition is like now, all that remains is a house which is currently in the process of being sold to pay off debts, and they can't afford to pay it all. Even his parents currently have to live with other relatives to stay alive.

In essence, for anyone who is an addicted gambler, most of them, will not stop until they are really treated seriously by a specialist. And it also takes time, it's not that easy to recover and not return to gambling activities. This is a continuous and sustainable treatment. It is very sad every time I read stories about victims or families of addicted gamblers whose lives also have to be disrupted due to the actions of those addicted gamblers.

You can give him advice continuously, but whether it will really be successful or not, if he is really addicted, it will really be difficult. Is it not possible to take him to a rehabilitation center or to a specialist to help his treatment? It's best if you also have to be careful, always be alert to conditions like that.

[AliMan]

I don't see any problems with giving an advice to your neighborhood mate, the main concern here is the bad actions that the person did. No matter what positive motivations we will provide them, and yet they cannot improve themselves then we're not held responsible for them. During the times of uncertainties no one can help us but ourselves, we're always help liable on our shortcomings and that's always a basic mindset. You don't have to stress on those irresponsible people around, and better avoid doing busines with them because it might cause you problems in the near future.

[lienfaye]

Well, since his brother is an addicted gambler, there's really a possibility that the money he asked is solely to sustain his addiction. It's not easy to ignore your brother because regardless, he is still a family. But it's not also right to tolerate him for spending the money that he didn't even earned. Because for a person like his brother, he doesn't know the value of money unless he's the one who worked hard for it.

Anyway, if I were in his shoes, I won't give him money. However, I will help in other ways for him to stop his addiction. Because it's not easy to overcome such situation especially if you don't have anyone to turn on to regarding your problem.

[Samlucky O]

In my own opinion, you have just given the best advise you should, because dealing with a gambling addict sometimes may be complicated because you wouldn't know when he's saying the truth or when he's lieing, so in this case the advice of him looking for other alternative to sort himself out is just the best option. Sothat he will be serious for once and make good use of his skill and extablish himself before requesting help from his brother. But my fear is that Gambling addiction can be so bad that a well planned business may be ruined by using the business fund to gamble.

[famososMuertos]

This is absolutely a loop of stories, these stories are repeated over and over again on this board, and the truth is that 99% of them users that posting don't know what they are talking about and have no real idea of these situations.

No one here is professionally trained to give an answer, in fact it is the worst place to seek ideas, this thread is only useful for those who do not bet, filling a thread with innocuous posts. imo.

[lembang]

It's difficult when someone has been labeled negatively by their family, especially if the cause is gambling. However, we must always help them if they are our family, because who else will they turn to for assistance? Perhaps by observing how the business is conducted and getting directly involved in it, we can minimize the risks associated with the money they are using.

[bisdak40]

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what do you guys think about this?

I think it's a bad advise on not to help his brother considering that your neighbor is financially well-off. You could have give his younger brother the benefit of the doubt, what if he is telling the truth and missed the opportunity because he don't the money to start up the business then that opportunity was wasted because his brother didn't help him. If the money was used for his gambling activity then that help would be the first and the last he could get from his brother.

[Nrcewker]

But, later in the day I started feeling bad for advising a brother not to help his own brother when he's in need of help

Who is in need of help? The brother just wants money for his gambling addiction so that he can gamble and become rich in a short period of time. According to me, you did the right thing. If it’s not your money, then you don’t have the right to put it at risk. Addiction will automatically low down if the guy doesn’t get money to gamble. So if I were there in your place, then I would have done the same thing, mate. Don’t feel sad. I am 100% sure that most of the people will agree with your advice that you have given to your neighbor.

[Wexnident]

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No worries op, asking for money to gamble is not "in need of help" lol. You have a clear conscience here and I 100% will do/recommend the same thing. Yes, family is family but there's also a certain point where even if you're both family, you don't help because it's not really "helping" anymore. It's clearly taking advantage of that damn label lol. Yes, guilt is there and will always be 100% but don't take it as something that means you made a mistake or did something wrong. In the end it's just you being guilt trip by that label, and not really you making a mistake imo.

[satscraper]

I would gradually convince brother to make money  in crypto trading for his gambling needs. The side effect of such trading activity might be the gambling   abstinence, and, for the beginning, I would present him a crypto wallet with "couple" of satoshes. The size of this "couple" would depend on his brother.

[Kelward]

Gambling addicts are always a problem to their loved ones, they're always broke and in need of more money to gamble. So far your neighbor has been given his brother money before and the guy kept squandering them on irresponsible gambling, I think that you did the right thing by advising him not to give him money. Although as his family, he shouldn't abandon his brother, instead he should support the addicted brother to get help first. The addicted brother can get professional help or from individuals like you that have experience in gambling. After the period of rehab, if your neighbor is convinced that his brother has changed, then he can monitor the payments of what his brother needs to start a business. Gambling addicted family members needs help not abandonment.

[Darker45]

I think you don't just stop giving money to a gambling addict. A person addicted to gambling has to be treated by a professional. There must be a proper process for it.

If a person is addicted to gambling and he/she can't get money from the one he/she depends on, he/she will attempt to get money from somebody else. Worse, he/she could resort into pawning or selling properties, committing crimes, and so on.

I think the best way is for your neighbor to talk to his brother and seek professional intervention. That's certainly more responsible of him rather than just halt his support.

[junder]

what do you guys think about this?

providing financial support for something that is clearly positive is certainly a good thing, even though the person should try to find a way other than borrowing money or asking for financial support and not doing this because basically when running a business you have to work hard, However, if I have often asked for financial support with the reason that business is a question, I myself would consider that I have a relative who has often asked for financial support for business reasons even though the business is not visible at all. Of course that is a question.

Moreover, if it is clear that the person likes to waste money, of course I myself will not provide financial support or lend it. I'd better support him with words that might motivate him. with what you feel is not good with what you have done, I don't think it's a mistake, because apart from saving his brother, it is also to make his brother aware.

[SmartGold01]

Anyone who is so passionate about business wouldn't keep eating up the little money that they have been giving him for support because he would have to make all possible majors for the business to grow and of course, should be very prepared to work hard to start up the business himself instead of keep depending on people to assist him. Okay, now his brother has assisted him and yet he still don't have the feelings to grow up the business neither is he willing to start instead keep eating up the money for gambling.

To me, I won't really give out money to him to start up business anymore after knowing he is routed into gambling even though thousands is being given to him he would still end up wasting them, therefore for any further assistance he has to sign an undertaking or a kind of agreement that he must used that money to start up a business and for that I will be the one to go make payment directly to hire a shop then I will also go with him to stock up the shop after which he can start making sales. Maybe any further downfall of the business will have me out from him because I already tried to establish the business for him and he squandered the money.

In all, what you did is the right advise.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Everything is obvious. A person with an unstable psyche will never be able to start a new business if he has bad habits behind him. In the best case, he will open a business, but at the first instance of any failure, all his money will fly away to “extract” additional cash in gambling. This is a pattern that happens to many gamblers when observed closely. His brother needs to hone his ability to say “no” and also not be shy about explaining the reason for his mistrust. The fact that he refuses his brother may be an incentive for change, or, on the contrary, a further fall down. But as adults, each person makes his own choice of how to live.

[ethereumhunter]

You do the right thing by giving that advice to your friend. Maybe you can tell to your friend to discuss with his brother about what business he wants to create so he can helps his brother and not just giving the money. It is risks to gives his brother the money without knowing what his brother will do so he must ensure that his brother really use that money for his new business. But if his brother don't wants to tell much about his new business, he doesn't have to gives the money and lets his brother search for the other people to gets the money.

We can helps our brother who needs money but we must know what is the purposes so that money will not be used for something that can harm him. Using the money for playing gambling and makes his brother gets deeper in gambling addiction is not a good thing so he must talk privately with his brother. You don't have to be deeper in that relation because you are not one of his family.

[HelliumZ]

I would gradually convince brother to make money  in crypto trading for his gambling needs. The side effect of such trading activity might be the gambling   abstinence, and, for the beginning, I would present him a crypto wallet with "couple" of satoshes. The size of this "couple" would depend on his brother.

You have made a great contribution by introducing your brother to crypto trading as he will definitely consider crypto trading to manage his gambling money. Thus sometime your brother will stop himself from gambling and focus on crypto trading. I was able to stop this cousin of mine from gambling completely like you.  He used to regularly steal money from his father's pocket to manage his gambling money, but he is now trading bitcoins with the idea of bitcoin, so he is not addicted to gambling as before.

[retreat]

But, later in the day I started feeling bad for advising a brother not to help his own brother when he's in need of help he can give due to my sentiment against gambling addiction.

There is no need to feel bad, because you only give advice that is in accordance with what you believe is right and I also feel that the advice you give is quite reasonable because no matter how much money the man gives to his younger brother it will be useless - and he also needed to think about himself, so not giving his brother the money was the best choice. And again, whether he wants to accept your advice or not is his business, because from the start he asked you for advice, not you who gave him advice, so no need to feel bad.

[Majestic-milf]

 The economy is hard and no matter how well to do you are, it's still doesn't mean you have to waste your funds. It's hard to trust someone who's got gambling issues with money and no matter how changed they may seem, the real test will be if they can handle funds. Personally, if I were to give an advice, I'd suggest this neighbor of yours to give his brother a little money, not all of it and ask him to go look for the remaining else where because you mentioned that he has been giving him money in the past but this brother keeps wasting it, so if he assists him with some, he can keep a close eye on him or better yet follow the business this said brother has and if it ends up being another sham, then he can stop lending a helping hand.