[LOOKING FOR SPONSORS]⚽ Cross League Goal Madness ⚽ Discussion Thread

[BABY SHOES]

Hi guys! i have some news for everyone here i keep trying to get a sponsor and to bring more people into the pool and add some new features to the contest for that im gonna delay the start of this one one more week, sorry about it but i think is the best for everyone and for the contest.

When i have more news im gonna share it with all of you, thanks for your patience.

That's great, adding some features to the contest which means it's not a fixed rule yet right?

I'll stay here... If this pool gets sponsors it will certainly get many participants considering that the current season of the Premier League looks dead, there is no active fee in the PL pool.

Tolog tag again when the league started, afraid we forgot.

[arallmuus]

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Not sure if I said it last season but a weighted score is best. The more people pick it, the less valuable. But that's too complex to mess with right now, so we'll just have to let the boring mafia go for the big guys and leave the exciting stuff to uncle bubu.

That would add alot of decimals or something but yeah something like that could be fun but lets see what Darbit has in store for us

Hi guys! i have some news for everyone here i keep trying to get a sponsor

So is this sponsor talk going on a good direction right now? No rush though

add some new features to the contest

Oh great, we really do need to have something different from time to time and also something to do with everyone picking Bayern Munich but my hunch are saying that Barcelona would be the most picked team this season

I hope these aren't fantasy mechanics that I try to avoid

Something like adding the goalscorer name for extra point? this would be fun but Im bad at this kind of thing

[buwaytress]

Hi guys! i have some news for everyone here i keep trying to get a sponsor and to bring more people into the pool and add some new features to the contest for that im gonna delay the start of this one one more week, sorry about it but i think is the best for everyone and for the contest.

That's nice to hear man, and it is a big of a weird/insane event that I actually have grown to think of fondly, so that would be a nice crispy icing on the cake.

Does anyone else not remember which pools they've paid for already? I'm pretty sure I had them all covered but accidentally deleted a message I used to track so might have to pull up my Electrum this weekend to track things.

[famososMuertos]

:://:::Im thinking about some things for the remaining days.

Will it be a surprise, or will we have the chance to do some testing beforehand? I'd love it if you added variables that allow for an extra edge points. Anyway, I don't think the favorites will change much in terms of how we choose them; whether they score more or less doesn't really matter. You definitely need to add a bit more craziness this season... When this starts, don't forget to send the reminder pill.

[KTChampions]

I hope these aren't fantasy mechanics that I try to avoid

Something like adding the goalscorer name for extra point? this would be fun but Im bad at this kind of thing

If it was just one question like that, it would be fine. By the way, yesterday I won a bet on Mbappé to score 2+ goals, the odds were modest - just 3.0, but the odds on him scoring 1+ goal were a mere 1.33 lol.

Does anyone else not remember which pools they've paid for already? I'm pretty sure I had them all covered but accidentally deleted a message I used to track so might have to pull up my Electrum this weekend to track things.

I also have an entry in my email drafts, but sometimes there is confusion, it would be especially annoying to miss deadlines, but now it seems I am going to pay for RtG and this pool only, so everything is under control. The Bundesliga, La Liga and Champions League are already paid for.

[darbitmobilerecovery]

So is this sponsor talk going on a good direction right now? No rush though

I cant say yes yet, because im still not sure if we can close the deal. And i really want to know the sooner the better since its really important to ahve one to catch more interest in the people from outside our contest to join us. But at least we have hope right now.


About the new things im still doubting between which one is the better to implement maintaing it simple but adding spicy anyway i keep reading all the suggestions anyways.

[buwaytress]

Not sure if I said it last season but a weighted score is best. The more people pick it, the less valuable. But that's too complex to mess with right now, so we'll just have to let the boring mafia go for the big guys and leave the exciting stuff to uncle bubu.

That would add alot of decimals or something but yeah something like that could be fun but lets see what Darbit has in store for us
Something like adding the goalscorer name for extra point? this would be fun but Im bad at this kind of thing

Probably too much work (for dar) in the end, and more confusing, so yeah, I'll take the current format as is. Maybe it's good everyone has majority picks and a team or two for the precious differentials...

Might be simpler is something you suggest though. An extra submission of goalscorer NOT from your selected teams? Every goal = 1 point?

[LTU_btc]

So, we are starting this week or no? Already want to start playing. If there won't be sponsor, I'm fine, we already see several pools running without sponsorship.

Probably too much work (for dar) in the end, and more confusing, so yeah, I'll take the current format as is. Maybe it's good everyone has majority picks and a team or two for the precious differentials...

Might be simpler is something you suggest though. An extra submission of goalscorer NOT from your selected teams? Every goal = 1 point?

What I wish - don't go deep into more complicated things. It has to be simple for players and not too mch complicated for darbit as he will have to count everything. Goalscorer from not your selected teams - sounds interesting, but I guess it's not that easy to hit it.

[buwaytress]

Ya we've all paid, let's gooo!

What I wish - don't go deep into more complicated things. It has to be simple for players and not too mch complicated for darbit as he will have to count everything. Goalscorer from not your selected teams - sounds interesting, but I guess it's not that easy to hit it.

Agree. The effort to tabulate is always underestimated and most players probably enjoy a stress-free "pick 'em" format so what we have already is enough. The goalscorer pick does throw in what promises to be a bit more unpredictable bonus points though =p

[darxiaomi]

Ya we've all paid, let's gooo!

What I wish - don't go deep into more complicated things. It has to be simple for players and not too mch complicated for darbit as he will have to count everything. Goalscorer from not your selected teams - sounds interesting, but I guess it's not that easy to hit it.

Agree. The effort to tabulate is always underestimated and most players probably enjoy a stress-free "pick 'em" format so what we have already is enough. The goalscorer pick does throw in what promises to be a bit more unpredictable bonus points though =p

Thanks guys for your words as always, im reading and im working on the contest. Im trying my best to have it ready for today or tomorrow, im trying to rid off from google forms so is taking me more work and since im not a specialist on this i have to try to cover everysingle detail and fixing it sometimes i broke other things.

So thanks for your patience. About the sponsor...... we are like the UCL pool of buwa ina  difficult stance but i really feel that we can get some freebets at least, talks still on going but not at the pace i want.

[darbitmobilerecovery]

Well guys i finally have some news, i dont know if the ones i want to give and im sure they arent the ones you want to hear but here it is (is not that bad) i hope you enjoy it.

First of all i have to delay the start of the contest one more time, i know.... i know..... is a complete shit and is also for me i tried to build a website and i manage to do so but it keep falling in some minor things and i dont want to keep delaying the start of everything just because of it, maybe in the future if i feel confident we can migrate to it. But it needs more work yet and since we are playing for something i cant made it without being sure is working at 100% (at least for my level of understanding).

The good news are...... we are gonna have a test round now, so you can see what is new and i want also to hear if you like the new features and rules.

About the new rules to prevent Bayer Munich dominance i add this:

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If a team score  3+ goals in 3 consecutive rounds they are gonna be replaced for the upcoming 2 rounds
If a team is selected by 90% of the field for 3 consecutive rounds is gonna be replaced for the upcoming 2 rounds.

But not only that.

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When a team plays against a team in the relegation zone, their goals are worth 0.5

I have another idea like.

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If a team is selected by the 80% of the field their goals worth also 0.5

But i feel like if i implement it is gonna add so much randonmess and luck involved instead of skill.



Well the new feature im gonna add is..... "The six men" This time is gonna be a extra team but from the relegation zone, the thing is they are not gonna count their goals in your favour, you are gonna be deducted from  your total of the round the goals they allow. A complete madness in my eyes, but let me know what did you think about. They are gonna be the same for the 5 rounds like the other teams we have and are gonna be reshufled when the times comes.

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Just in case if your relegation team didnt play for whatever reason you are gonna receive the team which receive less goals as your pick.

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If someone fail to submit his relegation team he is gonna receive his previous round selected team or his replacement for that round.

ROUND TEST WEEK FROM 04/09 to 07/09 [DEADLINE: START OF REAL MADRID GAME ON FRIDAY 04/09].

Dont trust so much the deadline just keep sending your predictions if you fail to reach the deadline is just to test.

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Trofo
cryptofrka
LTU_btc
buwaytress
slaman29
KTChampions
notblox1
BABY SHOES
paco92x
famososMuertos
el che
arallmuus
Harkorede
saint-loup

[buwaytress]

My eyes burning today (and throat) so I'm reading but not really processing. Mus be the football getting to my head but at a glance looks good, dar sir!

Take your time, I think we're all just taking things easy, no rush for me at least to get another pool going.

[arallmuus]

First of all i have to delay the start of the contest one more time, i know.... i know..... is a complete shit and is also for me i tried to build a website and i manage to do so but it keep falling in some minor things and i dont want to keep delaying the start of everything just because of it, maybe in the future if i feel confident we can migrate to it.

All good, I dont mind 1 extra week to start the competition. This week has been pretty shitty and draining honestly so an extra week would be fine

But not only that.

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When a team plays against a team in the relegation zone, their goals are worth 0.5

I actually like this one, this will force everyone to be creative as there isnt that much merit in picking favourites against underdog anymore. Unless of course its Bayern and they score 6 goals   but we have another set of rules to counter that as well

Well the new feature im gonna add is..... "The six men" This time is gonna be a extra team but from the relegation zone, the thing is they are not gonna count their goals in your favour, you are gonna be deducted from  your total of the round the goals they allow.

Im gonna say this is one nasty plot twist but I guess its interesting. So we are gonna pick the less shitty relegation zone team for now


Anyway I submitted mine, no research at all since this is just a test round   Going with Villa for the 6th team

[famososMuertos]

Test sent. As long as what you do is as quick as the forms, a couple of clicks (six in this case...  what's so complicated about it?) is fine by me. The rules for the most-selected team or the one that scores the most goals, whatever.

I know you want to take Madness to another level, but stay calm; you sound stressed 

[BABY SHOES]

Will send you a Test form later tonight...

I will still follow the rules of the competition, although it is a little confusing later which rules will be applied... I'm sure I'll understand when the competition goes on.

Hahaha finally Bayern Munich can be excluded now, last season almost all chose this team every round.

[darxiaomi]

Test sent. As long as what you do is as quick as the forms, a couple of clicks (six in this case...  what's so complicated about it?) is fine by me. The rules for the most-selected team or the one that scores the most goals, whatever.

I know you want to take Madness to another level, but stay calm; you sound stressed 

Dont fear for me mate, im not becoming mad because of the madness you can be sure about it. 

Will send you a Test form later tonight...

I will still follow the rules of the competition, although it is a little confusing later which rules will be applied... I'm sure I'll understand when the competition goes on.

Hahaha finally Bayern Munich can be excluded now, last season almost all chose this team every round.

What i can say about the rules..... they are super simple but since events can make loopholes i have to try to cover everything so i have to always write a ton of text to try to cover everysingle detail, if you ask me i want just to put in the rules:

"Just pick your six teams". hahahaha.


Well i hope everyone like the new things, i had other ideas but feels like could put so much work for each part.

I want to hear the opinion of KTC which always knows better about the odds and if something is balanced or not.

[KTChampions]

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Well i hope everyone like the new things, i had other ideas but feels like could put so much work for each part.

I want to hear the opinion of KTC which always knows better about the odds and if something is balanced or not.

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If a team score  3+ goals in 3 consecutive rounds they are gonna be replaced for the upcoming 2 rounds

If a team scored 3+ goals in rounds 1, 2, and 3 and was suspended for rounds 4 and 5, but continued to score 3+ goals in rounds 4 and 5, should its return be delayed? At least until one round with a lower scoring record.

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When a team plays against a team in the relegation zone, their goals are worth 0.5

A good penalty, one might say, replacing a team ban. Few will choose a favorite and hope to get two points for scoring four goals.

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If a team is selected by the 80% of the field their goals worth also 0.5

This is the most diabolical option. I don't know how I feel about it yet. Here, we're not just playing for points, but perhaps choosing Team A to avoid the situation where others choose it and won't be penalized. That is, we will have to make a pick to be penalized, but together with everyone else.
Maybe not the best option for us, since it's something from a board/card game  
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Hmm... I thought about it and now I'm against this option.
Let's say 80% chose Bayern and Bayern scored 4 goals, then their points total would drop to 2. The remaining 20% ​​would have a hard time surpassing this average (I remember we had many rounds with an average of around 2, and here we're talking about a clear favorite picked by everyone). So, the minority doesn't make much profit, despite taking a risk.
The second option: Bayern scored few goals, let's say 1-2, i.e. the majority will receive 0.5-1 point, which will not hit them hard, it is a loss of only 0.5-1 points relative to the minority.
Now let's consider the scenario where 75% chose Bayern and they scored 4 goals - the majority will receive 4 points, and the minority will lose, and not just lose, but big lose and relative to the majority (the worst option in a long-term pool).
If Bayern scored 1-2 goals when they were chosen by 75%, then it seems that no one suffered at all, but the minority carried a greater risk.
It seems that this option will not change the picks much.

Well the new feature im gonna add is..... "The six men" This time is gonna be a extra team but from the relegation zone, the thing is they are not gonna count their goals in your favour, you are gonna be deducted from  your total of the round the goals they allow. A complete madness in my eyes, but let me know what did you think about. They are gonna be the same for the 5 rounds like the other teams we have and are gonna be reshufled when the times comes.

This is interesting option, see no traps here.

I'll send the test later in the evening, and the fee tomorrow, I'll pay right away for the RtG and this pool.

[cryptofrka]

You're giving yourself a lot of work here
Don't implement them all at once - it will be impossible to manage.

The best one IMO is the 6th team, that will be fun.

This one I don't really like - because it punishes you for a choice somebody else is doing.

I have another idea like.

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If a team is selected by the 80% of the field their goals worth also 0.5

But i feel like if i implement it is gonna add so much randonmess and luck involved instead of skill.

Then again, it's Madness.

[darbitmobilerecovery]

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If a team is selected by the 80% of the field their goals worth also 0.5

This is the most diabolical option. I don't know how I feel about it yet. Here, we're not just playing for points, but perhaps choosing Team A to avoid the situation where others choose it and won't be penalized. That is, we will have to make a pick to be penalized, but together with everyone else.
Maybe not the best option for us, since it's something from a board/card game  
...
Hmm... I thought about it and now I'm against this option.
Let's say 80% chose Bayern and Bayern scored 4 goals, then their points total would drop to 2. The remaining 20% ​​would have a hard time surpassing this average (I remember we had many rounds with an average of around 2, and here we're talking about a clear favorite picked by everyone). So, the minority doesn't make much profit, despite taking a risk.
The second option: Bayern scored few goals, let's say 1-2, i.e. the majority will receive 0.5-1 point, which will not hit them hard, it is a loss of only 0.5-1 points relative to the minority.
Now let's consider the scenario where 75% chose Bayern and they scored 4 goals - the majority will receive 4 points, and the minority will lose, and not just lose, but big lose and relative to the majority (the worst option in a long-term pool).
If Bayern scored 1-2 goals when they were chosen by 75%, then it seems that no one suffered at all, but the minority carried a greater risk.
It seems that this option will not change the picks much.

Well the new feature im gonna add is..... "The six men" This time is gonna be a extra team but from the relegation zone, the thing is they are not gonna count their goals in your favour, you are gonna be deducted from  your total of the round the goals they allow. A complete madness in my eyes, but let me know what did you think about. They are gonna be the same for the 5 rounds like the other teams we have and are gonna be reshufled when the times comes.

This is interesting option, see no traps here.

I'll send the test later in the evening, and the fee tomorrow, I'll pay right away for the RtG and this pool.

Thank you as always for your comment, and maybe i was not suepr clear, i decided to drop that idea because of that, i only write it on the thread just to see if i was only me who think it was not gonna work. Thanks for confirm it.

You're giving yourself a lot of work here
Don't implement them all at once - it will be impossible to manage.

The best one IMO is the 6th team, that will be fun.

This one I don't really like - because it punishes you for a choice somebody else is doing.

I have another idea like.

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If a team is selected by the 80% of the field their goals worth also 0.5

But i feel like if i implement it is gonna add so much randonmess and luck involved instead of skill.

Then again, it's Madness.

Thanks man for the comments, and yes i also thing the same for that it was the only one which it was only a comment to share thoughts and seems like we all think the same which is good in this case.

And yes im gonna have to spend a few more minutes checking with the new features than before, for that i thnked and im working on having another platform instead of just form for my case because implement more things start to be more complicated.

[LTU_btc]

You're giving yourself a lot of work here
Don't implement them all at once - it will be impossible to manage.

Can't imagine playing if all these rules will be implemented - too many factors, too much thinking before submiting predictions. Things should be simple enough, both for players and darbit as it can be a bit of headache to count when too many factors is included.
I liked first rule - probably it will eliminate not Bayern only, but also Real and Barca from most rounds. Rule about games against teams in relegation zone also looks interesting. While The six men looks like complete randomizer.