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September 28, 2024, 03:52:54 PM
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The key here is how much you trust the authorities of your country. I think that in most countries this trust from ordinary people is not very high. Simply because the population in any country has been deceived by local governments so many times before that people have developed immunity to lies from officials. And if we talk about gambling, then no government will help in any way if a player has problems with this casino. Especially if bribery and corruption are thriving in the country.
If that's how you feel, having no trust in the government, then you shouldn’t be gambling in a regulated casino. A decentralized casino would be a better fit, where you bear all the risk. That's how it goes; we all have our preferences, and we go where we’re satisfied, regardless of the level of risk involved.
We have our own risk when playing gambling so we must understand how to manage the risk whether if we play on centralized or decentralized casino because those casino will have advantage and disadvantage. Related to the corrupt government, that will exist in many countries but if we have a problem with the casino and that casino is regulated to our government, we can try to search an honest officials so they can help us and solve our problem. I am sure that we still have an honest officials that will works for their people and helping those who needs their help. However, we still need the help from government if that is about casino that regulated to our government.
In my opinion, it all depends heavily on the country you live in and how well the legal system of that country works. In my opinion, in some countries, a player cannot even think of turning to an official about obvious fraud on the part of some casino. Because he knows in advance that he will never meet or find an honest assistant from the authorities, but he can get into trouble for himself quite easily.

And in general, risk management when playing in a casino simply needs to be done somehow, at least remembering the possible negative developments associated with your gambling.

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September 28, 2024, 05:04:40 PM
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The key here is how much you trust the authorities of your country. I think that in most countries this trust from ordinary people is not very high. Simply because the population in any country has been deceived by local governments so many times before that people have developed immunity to lies from officials. And if we talk about gambling, then no government will help in any way if a player has problems with this casino. Especially if bribery and corruption are thriving in the country.
The confidence on politicians, bureaucrats and governments is in an all time low all over the world, and this is this way for one simple reason, that is exactly what they deserve, in fact most people try to do whatever they can to avoid dealing with their governments as they know they will have to deal with all kind of corruption, this is why we need to make small bets when we gamble, because even if we were scammed under that scenario the loss will be so small that you will not care too much about it and you can avoid playing on that casino from now on and just denounce what happened online and move on.
Absolutely correct advice!
This is exactly how you should gamble and try not to approach, and especially not to cross that line when you will have serious problems in life because you have lost a lot of money, as they say, lost more than you could afford. As for trust in the authorities, it is true that in all countries of the world there are probably such political dwarfs in power now that you probably can’t even remember a single truly serious person who would truly represent the image of the future of humanity based on the criteria of the general development of civilization. And this naturally affects the general standard of living of people in all countries. And it is true that each person has a rough idea of ​​what communication with officials will mean for him and approximately how much it will cost because of local corruption.
Well, and help in returning winnings in gambling and in general is not worth thinking about at all.

You’ve nailed it to perfection. It is very important and crucial to enjoy the gambling as a mean of entertainment while being aware of the risks. Crossing that thin line into serious financial trouble can have series consequences on the financial life of a gambler.
Your point about political leadership is reasonable too. Many people may feel not aligned with their relevant leaders that often results into a lack of trust in institutions. With no trust, people will hesitate to the KYCs.  As for recovering gambling losses, it’s usually a bit difficult to manage for an average gambler. It’s importnt to approach it with a clear mindset and not expect support from the casinos in difficult situations.

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September 29, 2024, 08:50:29 AM
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The key here is how much you trust the authorities of your country. I think that in most countries this trust from ordinary people is not very high. Simply because the population in any country has been deceived by local governments so many times before that people have developed immunity to lies from officials. And if we talk about gambling, then no government will help in any way if a player has problems with this casino. Especially if bribery and corruption are thriving in the country.
The confidence on politicians, bureaucrats and governments is in an all time low all over the world, and this is this way for one simple reason, that is exactly what they deserve, in fact most people try to do whatever they can to avoid dealing with their governments as they know they will have to deal with all kind of corruption, this is why we need to make small bets when we gamble, because even if we were scammed under that scenario the loss will be so small that you will not care too much about it and you can avoid playing on that casino from now on and just denounce what happened online and move on.
Absolutely correct advice!
This is exactly how you should gamble and try not to approach, and especially not to cross that line when you will have serious problems in life because you have lost a lot of money, as they say, lost more than you could afford. As for trust in the authorities, it is true that in all countries of the world there are probably such political dwarfs in power now that you probably can’t even remember a single truly serious person who would truly represent the image of the future of humanity based on the criteria of the general development of civilization. And this naturally affects the general standard of living of people in all countries. And it is true that each person has a rough idea of ​​what communication with officials will mean for him and approximately how much it will cost because of local corruption.
Well, and help in returning winnings in gambling and in general is not worth thinking about at all.

You’ve nailed it to perfection. It is very important and crucial to enjoy the gambling as a mean of entertainment while being aware of the risks. Crossing that thin line into serious financial trouble can have series consequences on the financial life of a gambler.
Your point about political leadership is reasonable too. Many people may feel not aligned with their relevant leaders that often results into a lack of trust in institutions. With no trust, people will hesitate to the KYCs.  As for recovering gambling losses, it’s usually a bit difficult to manage for an average gambler. It’s importnt to approach it with a clear mindset and not expect support from the casinos in difficult situations.
It is precisely in difficult situations that it seems better to forget about the money lost, since the whole process of defending your rights in a dispute with the casino administration will inevitably turn into constant stress and endless writing of complaints and explanations. It is simply not worth the time you spend on it.
But of course, this applies to the case when we are talking about small, non-critical losses of your money because something with the gambling game or with the casino itself went wrong, as you expected.

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September 30, 2024, 05:19:56 AM
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It is precisely in difficult situations that it seems better to forget about the money lost, since the whole process of defending your rights in a dispute with the casino administration will inevitably turn into constant stress and endless writing of complaints and explanations. It is simply not worth the time you spend on it.
But of course, this applies to the case when we are talking about small, non-critical losses of your money because something with the gambling game or with the casino itself went wrong, as you expected.

If you can afford to lose your wins; it's okay to let it go if you suspect the casino might try to scam you. The best way to get back at them is to post a scam accusation to warn the community.. just like 1xbit. Although they’re still operational, their reputation is completely ruined.

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September 30, 2024, 08:02:46 AM
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It is precisely in difficult situations that it seems better to forget about the money lost, since the whole process of defending your rights in a dispute with the casino administration will inevitably turn into constant stress and endless writing of complaints and explanations. It is simply not worth the time you spend on it.
But of course, this applies to the case when we are talking about small, non-critical losses of your money because something with the gambling game or with the casino itself went wrong, as you expected.

If you can afford to lose your wins; it's okay to let it go if you suspect the casino might try to scam you. The best way to get back at them is to post a scam accusation to warn the community.. just like 1xbit. Although they’re still operational, their reputation is completely ruined.
Yeah, I guess I agree with you. If of course there is time to publish some kind of exposure of fraudulent actions of some casino towards you personally, then it is probably worth sharing such information with other players. It seems that many people simply feel sorry for the time to write posts, this time is actually better to play in another casino that does not deceive you. By the way, the story with 1xbit is really strange, to put it mildly. So, everyone here has known about it for a long time and, accordingly, treats it with negativity. But at the same time, it is constantly cited as an example of a scam casino. And it still works. And apparently makes a profit. Smiley

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October 01, 2024, 08:42:07 AM
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In my opinion, it all depends heavily on the country you live in and how well the legal system of that country works. In my opinion, in some countries, a player cannot even think of turning to an official about obvious fraud on the part of some casino. Because he knows in advance that he will never meet or find an honest assistant from the authorities, but he can get into trouble for himself quite easily.

And in general, risk management when playing in a casino simply needs to be done somehow, at least remembering the possible negative developments associated with your gambling.
That is why we must be careful when playing gambling. So when a gambler feel something wrong will happen, he can moves to the other casinos and @OP did that to prevent the worst scenario that he may face it in the future. When we believe that the casino have their reputation and popular among the other casinos, they can do KYC without any problem. They realize that nowadays, KYC is something that they can not avoid so they will better to follow the rules.

And yes, that will related to risk management of what we will do while playing gambling in the casino. If we think that we can do KYC, we can go for that. But if not, we can moves to other casinos. So simple as that.

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October 01, 2024, 05:30:07 PM
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In my opinion, it all depends heavily on the country you live in and how well the legal system of that country works. In my opinion, in some countries, a player cannot even think of turning to an official about obvious fraud on the part of some casino. Because he knows in advance that he will never meet or find an honest assistant from the authorities, but he can get into trouble for himself quite easily.

And in general, risk management when playing in a casino simply needs to be done somehow, at least remembering the possible negative developments associated with your gambling.
That is why we must be careful when playing gambling. So when a gambler feel something wrong will happen, he can moves to the other casinos and @OP did that to prevent the worst scenario that he may face it in the future. When we believe that the casino have their reputation and popular among the other casinos, they can do KYC without any problem. They realize that nowadays, KYC is something that they can not avoid so they will better to follow the rules.

And yes, that will related to risk management of what we will do while playing gambling in the casino. If we think that we can do KYC, we can go for that. But if not, we can moves to other casinos. So simple as that.
But of course everyone thinks that if you have provided the casino with your personal data by going through the KYC identity verification procedure, then you automatically have an additional guarantee against some troubles in your game in the future. However, in my opinion, this does not always work like that. Well, of course, there remains the question of those players who do not want or even cannot stop playing in the anonymity mode of their identity. Here, the player initially understands that the guarantees of a favorable game for him may not be observed. But, however, the player, understanding this, is already in principle ready that unpleasant situations can happen and you should just change the casino. And fortunately, the choice of casinos is huge.

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