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September 28, 2024, 03:52:54 PM
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The key here is how much you trust the authorities of your country. I think that in most countries this trust from ordinary people is not very high. Simply because the population in any country has been deceived by local governments so many times before that people have developed immunity to lies from officials. And if we talk about gambling, then no government will help in any way if a player has problems with this casino. Especially if bribery and corruption are thriving in the country.
If that's how you feel, having no trust in the government, then you shouldn’t be gambling in a regulated casino. A decentralized casino would be a better fit, where you bear all the risk. That's how it goes; we all have our preferences, and we go where we’re satisfied, regardless of the level of risk involved.
We have our own risk when playing gambling so we must understand how to manage the risk whether if we play on centralized or decentralized casino because those casino will have advantage and disadvantage. Related to the corrupt government, that will exist in many countries but if we have a problem with the casino and that casino is regulated to our government, we can try to search an honest officials so they can help us and solve our problem. I am sure that we still have an honest officials that will works for their people and helping those who needs their help. However, we still need the help from government if that is about casino that regulated to our government.
In my opinion, it all depends heavily on the country you live in and how well the legal system of that country works. In my opinion, in some countries, a player cannot even think of turning to an official about obvious fraud on the part of some casino. Because he knows in advance that he will never meet or find an honest assistant from the authorities, but he can get into trouble for himself quite easily.

And in general, risk management when playing in a casino simply needs to be done somehow, at least remembering the possible negative developments associated with your gambling.

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September 28, 2024, 05:04:40 PM
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The key here is how much you trust the authorities of your country. I think that in most countries this trust from ordinary people is not very high. Simply because the population in any country has been deceived by local governments so many times before that people have developed immunity to lies from officials. And if we talk about gambling, then no government will help in any way if a player has problems with this casino. Especially if bribery and corruption are thriving in the country.
The confidence on politicians, bureaucrats and governments is in an all time low all over the world, and this is this way for one simple reason, that is exactly what they deserve, in fact most people try to do whatever they can to avoid dealing with their governments as they know they will have to deal with all kind of corruption, this is why we need to make small bets when we gamble, because even if we were scammed under that scenario the loss will be so small that you will not care too much about it and you can avoid playing on that casino from now on and just denounce what happened online and move on.
Absolutely correct advice!
This is exactly how you should gamble and try not to approach, and especially not to cross that line when you will have serious problems in life because you have lost a lot of money, as they say, lost more than you could afford. As for trust in the authorities, it is true that in all countries of the world there are probably such political dwarfs in power now that you probably can’t even remember a single truly serious person who would truly represent the image of the future of humanity based on the criteria of the general development of civilization. And this naturally affects the general standard of living of people in all countries. And it is true that each person has a rough idea of ​​what communication with officials will mean for him and approximately how much it will cost because of local corruption.
Well, and help in returning winnings in gambling and in general is not worth thinking about at all.

You’ve nailed it to perfection. It is very important and crucial to enjoy the gambling as a mean of entertainment while being aware of the risks. Crossing that thin line into serious financial trouble can have series consequences on the financial life of a gambler.
Your point about political leadership is reasonable too. Many people may feel not aligned with their relevant leaders that often results into a lack of trust in institutions. With no trust, people will hesitate to the KYCs.  As for recovering gambling losses, it’s usually a bit difficult to manage for an average gambler. It’s importnt to approach it with a clear mindset and not expect support from the casinos in difficult situations.

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September 29, 2024, 08:50:29 AM
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The key here is how much you trust the authorities of your country. I think that in most countries this trust from ordinary people is not very high. Simply because the population in any country has been deceived by local governments so many times before that people have developed immunity to lies from officials. And if we talk about gambling, then no government will help in any way if a player has problems with this casino. Especially if bribery and corruption are thriving in the country.
The confidence on politicians, bureaucrats and governments is in an all time low all over the world, and this is this way for one simple reason, that is exactly what they deserve, in fact most people try to do whatever they can to avoid dealing with their governments as they know they will have to deal with all kind of corruption, this is why we need to make small bets when we gamble, because even if we were scammed under that scenario the loss will be so small that you will not care too much about it and you can avoid playing on that casino from now on and just denounce what happened online and move on.
Absolutely correct advice!
This is exactly how you should gamble and try not to approach, and especially not to cross that line when you will have serious problems in life because you have lost a lot of money, as they say, lost more than you could afford. As for trust in the authorities, it is true that in all countries of the world there are probably such political dwarfs in power now that you probably can’t even remember a single truly serious person who would truly represent the image of the future of humanity based on the criteria of the general development of civilization. And this naturally affects the general standard of living of people in all countries. And it is true that each person has a rough idea of ​​what communication with officials will mean for him and approximately how much it will cost because of local corruption.
Well, and help in returning winnings in gambling and in general is not worth thinking about at all.

You’ve nailed it to perfection. It is very important and crucial to enjoy the gambling as a mean of entertainment while being aware of the risks. Crossing that thin line into serious financial trouble can have series consequences on the financial life of a gambler.
Your point about political leadership is reasonable too. Many people may feel not aligned with their relevant leaders that often results into a lack of trust in institutions. With no trust, people will hesitate to the KYCs.  As for recovering gambling losses, it’s usually a bit difficult to manage for an average gambler. It’s importnt to approach it with a clear mindset and not expect support from the casinos in difficult situations.
It is precisely in difficult situations that it seems better to forget about the money lost, since the whole process of defending your rights in a dispute with the casino administration will inevitably turn into constant stress and endless writing of complaints and explanations. It is simply not worth the time you spend on it.
But of course, this applies to the case when we are talking about small, non-critical losses of your money because something with the gambling game or with the casino itself went wrong, as you expected.

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September 30, 2024, 05:19:56 AM
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It is precisely in difficult situations that it seems better to forget about the money lost, since the whole process of defending your rights in a dispute with the casino administration will inevitably turn into constant stress and endless writing of complaints and explanations. It is simply not worth the time you spend on it.
But of course, this applies to the case when we are talking about small, non-critical losses of your money because something with the gambling game or with the casino itself went wrong, as you expected.

If you can afford to lose your wins; it's okay to let it go if you suspect the casino might try to scam you. The best way to get back at them is to post a scam accusation to warn the community.. just like 1xbit. Although they’re still operational, their reputation is completely ruined.

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September 30, 2024, 08:02:46 AM
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It is precisely in difficult situations that it seems better to forget about the money lost, since the whole process of defending your rights in a dispute with the casino administration will inevitably turn into constant stress and endless writing of complaints and explanations. It is simply not worth the time you spend on it.
But of course, this applies to the case when we are talking about small, non-critical losses of your money because something with the gambling game or with the casino itself went wrong, as you expected.

If you can afford to lose your wins; it's okay to let it go if you suspect the casino might try to scam you. The best way to get back at them is to post a scam accusation to warn the community.. just like 1xbit. Although they’re still operational, their reputation is completely ruined.
Yeah, I guess I agree with you. If of course there is time to publish some kind of exposure of fraudulent actions of some casino towards you personally, then it is probably worth sharing such information with other players. It seems that many people simply feel sorry for the time to write posts, this time is actually better to play in another casino that does not deceive you. By the way, the story with 1xbit is really strange, to put it mildly. So, everyone here has known about it for a long time and, accordingly, treats it with negativity. But at the same time, it is constantly cited as an example of a scam casino. And it still works. And apparently makes a profit. Smiley

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October 01, 2024, 08:42:07 AM
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In my opinion, it all depends heavily on the country you live in and how well the legal system of that country works. In my opinion, in some countries, a player cannot even think of turning to an official about obvious fraud on the part of some casino. Because he knows in advance that he will never meet or find an honest assistant from the authorities, but he can get into trouble for himself quite easily.

And in general, risk management when playing in a casino simply needs to be done somehow, at least remembering the possible negative developments associated with your gambling.
That is why we must be careful when playing gambling. So when a gambler feel something wrong will happen, he can moves to the other casinos and @OP did that to prevent the worst scenario that he may face it in the future. When we believe that the casino have their reputation and popular among the other casinos, they can do KYC without any problem. They realize that nowadays, KYC is something that they can not avoid so they will better to follow the rules.

And yes, that will related to risk management of what we will do while playing gambling in the casino. If we think that we can do KYC, we can go for that. But if not, we can moves to other casinos. So simple as that.

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In my opinion, it all depends heavily on the country you live in and how well the legal system of that country works. In my opinion, in some countries, a player cannot even think of turning to an official about obvious fraud on the part of some casino. Because he knows in advance that he will never meet or find an honest assistant from the authorities, but he can get into trouble for himself quite easily.

And in general, risk management when playing in a casino simply needs to be done somehow, at least remembering the possible negative developments associated with your gambling.
That is why we must be careful when playing gambling. So when a gambler feel something wrong will happen, he can moves to the other casinos and @OP did that to prevent the worst scenario that he may face it in the future. When we believe that the casino have their reputation and popular among the other casinos, they can do KYC without any problem. They realize that nowadays, KYC is something that they can not avoid so they will better to follow the rules.

And yes, that will related to risk management of what we will do while playing gambling in the casino. If we think that we can do KYC, we can go for that. But if not, we can moves to other casinos. So simple as that.
But of course everyone thinks that if you have provided the casino with your personal data by going through the KYC identity verification procedure, then you automatically have an additional guarantee against some troubles in your game in the future. However, in my opinion, this does not always work like that. Well, of course, there remains the question of those players who do not want or even cannot stop playing in the anonymity mode of their identity. Here, the player initially understands that the guarantees of a favorable game for him may not be observed. But, however, the player, understanding this, is already in principle ready that unpleasant situations can happen and you should just change the casino. And fortunately, the choice of casinos is huge.

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October 02, 2024, 05:38:04 AM
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But of course everyone thinks that if you have provided the casino with your personal data by going through the KYC identity verification procedure, then you automatically have an additional guarantee against some troubles in your game in the future. However, in my opinion, this does not always work like that. Well, of course, there remains the question of those players who do not want or even cannot stop playing in the anonymity mode of their identity. Here, the player initially understands that the guarantees of a favorable game for him may not be observed. But, however, the player, understanding this, is already in principle ready that unpleasant situations can happen and you should just change the casino. And fortunately, the choice of casinos is huge.
But there is no guarantee that our document will always be safe in the third parties hands although that third parties have their reputable and popular. We should be careful when we want to do KYC and if we don't chase anything from gambling, we don't have to do complete KYC because we must takes care of our document. If they don't want to do KYC, they don't have to play with a big money and I guess some casinos still allows those people who only playing gambling with small money. If you have that casino, that will be your benefit because you don't have to do KYC like other gamblers who use a big money. You can enjoy your spare time by playing gambling without thinks about KYC.

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October 02, 2024, 07:32:13 AM
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But of course everyone thinks that if you have provided the casino with your personal data by going through the KYC identity verification procedure, then you automatically have an additional guarantee against some troubles in your game in the future. However, in my opinion, this does not always work like that. Well, of course, there remains the question of those players who do not want or even cannot stop playing in the anonymity mode of their identity. Here, the player initially understands that the guarantees of a favorable game for him may not be observed. But, however, the player, understanding this, is already in principle ready that unpleasant situations can happen and you should just change the casino. And fortunately, the choice of casinos is huge.
But there is no guarantee that our document will always be safe in the third parties hands although that third parties have their reputable and popular. We should be careful when we want to do KYC and if we don't chase anything from gambling, we don't have to do complete KYC because we must takes care of our document. If they don't want to do KYC, they don't have to play with a big money and I guess some casinos still allows those people who only playing gambling with small money. If you have that casino, that will be your benefit because you don't have to do KYC like other gamblers who use a big money. You can enjoy your spare time by playing gambling without thinks about KYC.
Playing for small money without KYC is of course much more convenient for players, but here the question arises about the limit, the crossing of which in your bets will already start to bring you unexpected troubles in the form of a sudden KYC from this casino, where you previously played, maintaining anonymity. As I understand it, the generally accepted limit is approximately $ 2000 or equivalents of this amount in cryptocurrencies. But apparently it is quite possible to reduce this limit, for example, in those countries of the world where this amount is already quite large simply based on the general standard of living of citizens of this country. It would be interesting to know how things are in this matter and if someone has encountered in their game with small amounts and the casino required KYC from them, then write what size of bets or winnings are we talking about. This is interesting information.

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October 03, 2024, 05:39:27 AM
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Playing for small money without KYC is of course much more convenient for players, but here the question arises about the limit, the crossing of which in your bets will already start to bring you unexpected troubles in the form of a sudden KYC from this casino, where you previously played, maintaining anonymity. As I understand it, the generally accepted limit is approximately $ 2000 or equivalents of this amount in cryptocurrencies. But apparently it is quite possible to reduce this limit, for example, in those countries of the world where this amount is already quite large simply based on the general standard of living of citizens of this country. It would be interesting to know how things are in this matter and if someone has encountered in their game with small amounts and the casino required KYC from them, then write what size of bets or winnings are we talking about. This is interesting information.
We can ask about the limit to the support system so we know what our limit in playing gambling so we don't breaks it. It is important to stay aware of that limit if we don't want to do KYC in the casino. But many gamblers doesn't think about this and still deposit with huge money which can make them require to do KYC. They think that they are a small gambler but what they did is not like a small gambler because they can place more bet with more money and they often return to casino.

Casino will know what they must do with their members and will ask them to do KYC because the casino can monitor the member's activity. We control ourselves in playing gambling and not just let casino monitor our activity. If we want to avoid the KYC, we must know how to limit ourselves.

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October 03, 2024, 07:43:01 AM
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Playing for small money without KYC is of course much more convenient for players, but here the question arises about the limit, the crossing of which in your bets will already start to bring you unexpected troubles in the form of a sudden KYC from this casino, where you previously played, maintaining anonymity. As I understand it, the generally accepted limit is approximately $ 2000 or equivalents of this amount in cryptocurrencies. But apparently it is quite possible to reduce this limit, for example, in those countries of the world where this amount is already quite large simply based on the general standard of living of citizens of this country. It would be interesting to know how things are in this matter and if someone has encountered in their game with small amounts and the casino required KYC from them, then write what size of bets or winnings are we talking about. This is interesting information.
We can ask about the limit to the support system so we know what our limit in playing gambling so we don't breaks it. It is important to stay aware of that limit if we don't want to do KYC in the casino. But many gamblers doesn't think about this and still deposit with huge money which can make them require to do KYC. They think that they are a small gambler but what they did is not like a small gambler because they can place more bet with more money and they often return to casino.

Casino will know what they must do with their members and will ask them to do KYC because the casino can monitor the member's activity. We control ourselves in playing gambling and not just let casino monitor our activity. If we want to avoid the KYC, we must know how to limit ourselves.
So how can you find out this very limit of the amount when the casino will require you to verify your identity. One option is that it can be written ToS. The second option is to request information from the support of this casino. However, all this information cannot be trusted completely, since you do not yet know how the casino itself determines this limit for you personally. There is also the option of a large win, when you will really be required to confirm your identity.

It will probably be interesting to read in this topic the real stories of players who faced a sudden KYC. And also to clarify what gaming actions of these players led to the casino's requirement to pass the verification of the identity of such a player. And of course, the important question is whether you managed to avoid KYC and get your money, including winnings.
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October 03, 2024, 10:12:56 AM
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Playing for small money without KYC is of course much more convenient for players, but here the question arises about the limit, the crossing of which in your bets will already start to bring you unexpected troubles in the form of a sudden KYC from this casino, where you previously played, maintaining anonymity. As I understand it, the generally accepted limit is approximately $ 2000 or equivalents of this amount in cryptocurrencies. But apparently it is quite possible to reduce this limit, for example, in those countries of the world where this amount is already quite large simply based on the general standard of living of citizens of this country. It would be interesting to know how things are in this matter and if someone has encountered in their game with small amounts and the casino required KYC from them, then write what size of bets or winnings are we talking about. This is interesting information.
We can ask about the limit to the support system so we know what our limit in playing gambling so we don't breaks it. It is important to stay aware of that limit if we don't want to do KYC in the casino. But many gamblers doesn't think about this and still deposit with huge money which can make them require to do KYC. They think that they are a small gambler but what they did is not like a small gambler because they can place more bet with more money and they often return to casino.

Casino will know what they must do with their members and will ask them to do KYC because the casino can monitor the member's activity. We control ourselves in playing gambling and not just let casino monitor our activity. If we want to avoid the KYC, we must know how to limit ourselves.
So how can you find out this very limit of the amount when the casino will require you to verify your identity. One option is that it can be written ToS. The second option is to request information from the support of this casino. However, all this information cannot be trusted completely, since you do not yet know how the casino itself determines this limit for you personally. There is also the option of a large win, when you will really be required to confirm your identity.

It will probably be interesting to read in this topic the real stories of players who faced a sudden KYC. And also to clarify what gaming actions of these players led to the casino's requirement to pass the verification of the identity of such a player. And of course, the important question is whether you managed to avoid KYC and get your money, including winnings.
And at the same time maintain anonymity.

Isn't it common that casinos in the crypto industry, when they are about to release a large amount to withdraw their players who gambled on their platform, look for kyc before it can release the money won in their casino?

And this is what is often complained about by other gamblers who don't like KYC, but there are also other players who are fine with submitting KYC as long as they know the casino they are playing at is also reputable.

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October 03, 2024, 12:29:52 PM
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Playing for small money without KYC is of course much more convenient for players, but here the question arises about the limit, the crossing of which in your bets will already start to bring you unexpected troubles in the form of a sudden KYC from this casino, where you previously played, maintaining anonymity. As I understand it, the generally accepted limit is approximately $ 2000 or equivalents of this amount in cryptocurrencies. But apparently it is quite possible to reduce this limit, for example, in those countries of the world where this amount is already quite large simply based on the general standard of living of citizens of this country. It would be interesting to know how things are in this matter and if someone has encountered in their game with small amounts and the casino required KYC from them, then write what size of bets or winnings are we talking about. This is interesting information.
We can ask about the limit to the support system so we know what our limit in playing gambling so we don't breaks it. It is important to stay aware of that limit if we don't want to do KYC in the casino. But many gamblers doesn't think about this and still deposit with huge money which can make them require to do KYC. They think that they are a small gambler but what they did is not like a small gambler because they can place more bet with more money and they often return to casino.

Casino will know what they must do with their members and will ask them to do KYC because the casino can monitor the member's activity. We control ourselves in playing gambling and not just let casino monitor our activity. If we want to avoid the KYC, we must know how to limit ourselves.
So how can you find out this very limit of the amount when the casino will require you to verify your identity. One option is that it can be written ToS. The second option is to request information from the support of this casino. However, all this information cannot be trusted completely, since you do not yet know how the casino itself determines this limit for you personally. There is also the option of a large win, when you will really be required to confirm your identity.

It will probably be interesting to read in this topic the real stories of players who faced a sudden KYC. And also to clarify what gaming actions of these players led to the casino's requirement to pass the verification of the identity of such a player. And of course, the important question is whether you managed to avoid KYC and get your money, including winnings.
And at the same time maintain anonymity.

Isn't it common that casinos in the crypto industry, when they are about to release a large amount to withdraw their players who gambled on their platform, look for kyc before it can release the money won in their casino?

And this is what is often complained about by other gamblers who don't like KYC, but there are also other players who are fine with submitting KYC as long as they know the casino they are playing at is also reputable.
With respect to the main OP, the irony of what you said played out, which makes it concerning to me. I've never been the supporter of the gambler who would not do their KYC, but I respect the opinion of many of them, while many others are just noise. I can't imagine myself gambling with casinos with no-KYC, I would not be comfortable with my money with them, but the decentralised casinos are still a good call if truy what many of those who didn't want to complete the KYC are true to the reason of the hesitance.

But for a customer to be willing to complete this and the casino denying him is suspicious to me. Honestly, the OP is the first place I would ever read such in my life and I wonder when some customers were finding excuses for the casino, that's so gross. There is a difference between "We are having issues, wait" and "We will ask through a link when we are ready." Are they really regulated? I doubt that.

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October 03, 2024, 08:01:58 PM
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Playing for small money without KYC is of course much more convenient for players, but here the question arises about the limit, the crossing of which in your bets will already start to bring you unexpected troubles in the form of a sudden KYC from this casino, where you previously played, maintaining anonymity. As I understand it, the generally accepted limit is approximately $ 2000 or equivalents of this amount in cryptocurrencies. But apparently it is quite possible to reduce this limit, for example, in those countries of the world where this amount is already quite large simply based on the general standard of living of citizens of this country. It would be interesting to know how things are in this matter and if someone has encountered in their game with small amounts and the casino required KYC from them, then write what size of bets or winnings are we talking about. This is interesting information.
We can ask about the limit to the support system so we know what our limit in playing gambling so we don't breaks it. It is important to stay aware of that limit if we don't want to do KYC in the casino. But many gamblers doesn't think about this and still deposit with huge money which can make them require to do KYC. They think that they are a small gambler but what they did is not like a small gambler because they can place more bet with more money and they often return to casino.

Casino will know what they must do with their members and will ask them to do KYC because the casino can monitor the member's activity. We control ourselves in playing gambling and not just let casino monitor our activity. If we want to avoid the KYC, we must know how to limit ourselves.
So how can you find out this very limit of the amount when the casino will require you to verify your identity. One option is that it can be written ToS. The second option is to request information from the support of this casino. However, all this information cannot be trusted completely, since you do not yet know how the casino itself determines this limit for you personally. There is also the option of a large win, when you will really be required to confirm your identity.

It will probably be interesting to read in this topic the real stories of players who faced a sudden KYC. And also to clarify what gaming actions of these players led to the casino's requirement to pass the verification of the identity of such a player. And of course, the important question is whether you managed to avoid KYC and get your money, including winnings.
And at the same time maintain anonymity.

Isn't it common that casinos in the crypto industry, when they are about to release a large amount to withdraw their players who gambled on their platform, look for kyc before it can release the money won in their casino?

And this is what is often complained about by other gamblers who don't like KYC, but there are also other players who are fine with submitting KYC as long as they know the casino they are playing at is also reputable.
A good casino that gamblers has known for long to be one of the reputable gaming platform can suddenly become something else and this is a good reason why we don't have to keep too much money on the casino we are using frequently to bet. Anything can happen, . especially when a huge win has been noticed, the casink might ask for KYC and if the user is not someone thah likes to submit tnekr credentials to withdraw such fund, the casino might not return the money. We ought to be wise when making decisions so we don't lose money because of our carelessness.

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October 04, 2024, 04:42:29 AM
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So how can you find out this very limit of the amount when the casino will require you to verify your identity. One option is that it can be written ToS. The second option is to request information from the support of this casino. However, all this information cannot be trusted completely, since you do not yet know how the casino itself determines this limit for you personally. There is also the option of a large win, when you will really be required to confirm your identity.

It will probably be interesting to read in this topic the real stories of players who faced a sudden KYC. And also to clarify what gaming actions of these players led to the casino's requirement to pass the verification of the identity of such a player. And of course, the important question is whether you managed to avoid KYC and get your money, including winnings.
And at the same time maintain anonymity.
Before we deposit, we can ask to support system about the limits that we can avoid so we don't have to do KYC. Usually, the agent will tell the limit that we should not break if we don't want to do KYC. But the other casino will not tell how much money we can deposit so they can ask members to do KYC anytime. We can confirm it with the agent so we can choose if we still want to use the casino or search for the other casinos. If that casino have ANN in this forum, you can ask about the limit so that will be clear to us.

The thing is you don't have to use too much money to playing gambling and usually, that can help you to avoid the KYC verification. But when you deposit more and more, that will make you to do KYC because the casino ask you to do that. But that will be different if we want to withdraw the win money which can be bigger because the casino will require you to do KYC and you should obey it if you want to take the money.

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October 04, 2024, 09:05:28 AM
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Yeah this is stupid tbh. Most casinos have their protocols, but this just shows they have no business sense at all. Just make an exception and don't loose a valuable customer guys.
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October 05, 2024, 11:52:25 AM
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Yeah this is stupid tbh. Most casinos have their protocols, but this just shows they have no business sense at all. Just make an exception and don't loose a valuable customer guys.
Well, you must understand that sometimes, things like this are just the simple fault of the customer support, but on the other hand, they are not to be blamed since it's an order given to them that they are carrying out.
If op was chatting with the direct owner of the casino, maybe he or she would have considered treating op with some exceptions.

But on the other hand though, exceptions or no exceptions, casinos are supposed to allow players decide when to submit their kyc document for verification, as long as the casino in question is one that is kyc compliant, telling a customer that he or she has to first deposit, play and win, and then look forward to being forced to pass kyc verification before he or she can withdraw his or her funds is kind of dubious.

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October 05, 2024, 01:58:34 PM
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Just make an exception and don't loose a valuable customer guys.
It’s hard to label someone as a valuable customer when they haven’t even started gambling yet. They’re just creating an account and reaching out to support to complete KYC before depositing $1k to play. In their mind, it's a necessary step to avoid any withdrawal issues if they win.

As for exceptions, I doubt they would apply here since the casino’s protocol (even if not stated in the TOS) likely applies to everyone, except for VIPs--which OP isn’t at this stage.

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Just make an exception and don't loose a valuable customer guys.
It’s hard to label someone as a valuable customer when they haven’t even started gambling yet. They’re just creating an account and reaching out to support to complete KYC before depositing $1k to play.
@biticoinplz has issued the right advice, I wonder why you downplayed it. And I suppose you are not referring to the OP itself because the guy did not just start the account with them but wanted to complete his KYC after years of operating with them.

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so i have account in fortunejack since years
never did kyc

This could be for any reason, every business owner must be prepared not to lose valuable customers, quality service is priceless. Contrary to your claim, all customers are valuable, those who do not even have much today might be your hugest patronage in the future, you don't downgrade anyone in business.

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So how can you find out this very limit of the amount when the casino will require you to verify your identity. One option is that it can be written ToS. The second option is to request information from the support of this casino. However, all this information cannot be trusted completely, since you do not yet know how the casino itself determines this limit for you personally. There is also the option of a large win, when you will really be required to confirm your identity.

It will probably be interesting to read in this topic the real stories of players who faced a sudden KYC. And also to clarify what gaming actions of these players led to the casino's requirement to pass the verification of the identity of such a player. And of course, the important question is whether you managed to avoid KYC and get your money, including winnings.
And at the same time maintain anonymity.
Before we deposit, we can ask to support system about the limits that we can avoid so we don't have to do KYC. Usually, the agent will tell the limit that we should not break if we don't want to do KYC. But the other casino will not tell how much money we can deposit so they can ask members to do KYC anytime. We can confirm it with the agent so we can choose if we still want to use the casino or search for the other casinos. If that casino have ANN in this forum, you can ask about the limit so that will be clear to us.

The thing is you don't have to use too much money to playing gambling and usually, that can help you to avoid the KYC verification. But when you deposit more and more, that will make you to do KYC because the casino ask you to do that. But that will be different if we want to withdraw the win money which can be bigger because the casino will require you to do KYC and you should obey it if you want to take the money.
My life experience, and just common sense, suggests that any assurances from the support service can be revised later, and as a rule, not in favor of the clients. This practice is long-standing and widespread. So, once you find out the limit of bets without KYC directly from the casino support staff or read in the ToS, after some time, when you think that this limit is as you were told. And you calmly play without crossing this limit. Well, naturally, the casino itself can be forced to reconsider these limits by law, and you, for example, taking a break from your game, go to the casino, start playing, win ... And here you have an unexpected "gift" in the form of a decrease in the limit of bets and the need to go through a sudden KYC. Well, imagine your feelings. I think you will not be very happy with such a win.
This is the complete bullshit associated with the attack of the authorities and bank lobbyists on anonymity.

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