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August 31, 2024, 11:22:13 AM
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Well, it's been a popularly raised concern that some players accounts have been restricted without any warning or reason for the restrictions. 

I know that some people can be very tricky, trying to play smart and wanting to paint the reputation of a casino in black. For example, some users will be aware of the ToS of a casino, and they will still ignorantly violate those rules, and when their account gets restricted, they'll start pretending like it's not their fault and begin to tag the casino as a bad site. 

Some players accounts also genuinely get restricted because they didn't read the casino terms and policy, and therefore they unknowingly violated the rules and got their accounts blown up. 

So my question now is that, do you guys think that casinos are wrong for not giving any reasons for players mistakes before restricting their account? 

Do you guys have a wish that casinos should always give reasons via players provided email before restricting their accounts? 

If we all have like minds about these, do you think it's something that can be archived? How can it be archived? 

Depends on the condition written in the TOS since for sure there's proper disclosure regarding on the rules they set or want to implement and its really up for the player to read it since if they had been sanction by casino for doing illegal things then and there's written rules that they can close the account of violators then the person cannot do anything with it and he can't use that he didn't read the TOS since its a lame excuse.

But its still up to the casino if they give second chance to their players since after all each casino have different rules implemented to their platform. That also means we make it a habit to read the TOS to know everything about the casino.

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August 31, 2024, 11:37:14 AM
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Well, it's been a popularly raised concern that some players accounts have been restricted without any warning or reason for the restrictions. 

I know that some people can be very tricky, trying to play smart and wanting to paint the reputation of a casino in black. For example, some users will be aware of the ToS of a casino, and they will still ignorantly violate those rules, and when their account gets restricted, they'll start pretending like it's not their fault and begin to tag the casino as a bad site. 
There has been an increase in the number of these false accusations. These ToS violators will come up with fabricated stories to gain sympathy, meanwhile, they are fully aware that they broke the terms.

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Some players accounts also genuinely get restricted because they didn't read the casino terms and policy, and therefore they unknowingly violated the rules and got their accounts blown up.
Ignorance is not an excuse before the law. It will also be difficult to determine gamblers who unintentionally violated the rule. 

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So my question now is that, do you guys think that casinos are wrong for not giving any reasons for player's mistakes before restricting their account? 
The word mistake shouldn't be used because there might be no parameter to measure players who made mistakes. Corrupt gamblers might take the leniency of the casino for granted and use it to exploit them.   

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Do you guys have a wish that casinos should always give reasons via players provided email before restricting their accounts? 
However, I support that casinos should inform customers why their account was restricted and offer them the necessary remedial options. Gamblers should know their offence to avoid future reoccurrences.

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August 31, 2024, 11:40:14 AM
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There are terms and conditions of services already in place which the client has agreed to before their registration on the platform, So when the customer must have gone against the rules, I don't think that it's necessary that the platform warns the customer of it first after the customer has bridged terms of service agreement ,and before putting any restrictions or taking any action on that customers account.

 
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August 31, 2024, 11:47:11 AM
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Well, it's been a popularly raised concern that some players accounts have been restricted without any warning or reason for the restrictions.

I know that some people can be very tricky, trying to play smart and wanting to paint the reputation of a casino in black. For example, some users will be aware of the ToS of a casino, and they will still ignorantly violate those rules, and when their account gets restricted, they'll start pretending like it's not their fault and begin to tag the casino as a bad site.
As much as it may seem unfair that some process to fair warning before account restrictions aren’t put in place, it’s important to note that, the company T&C stands as first warning. Having to read all that or use it relatively based on what is known has been one way to hedge against having restricted accounts.
Another fair warning has been, the ones being dished out to other defaulters. I wonder how feature complainants don’t see this and instead, go ahead to play around with the rules and get caught. At times, it’s really a deliberate act which prompts the gambling site to be harsh in dishing out punishments for offenders.

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August 31, 2024, 11:55:15 AM
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Should casinos give out warning first before restricting players account?

That depends on the weight of the violation the user has committed. Some heavier violations won't need any warnings. I think, what the casinos need to add when they restrict or ban accounts, is to be more specific with their reasoning. The usual reason they put to a restricted account are very generic like "violations in TOS". I think it would be more helpful if they put it specifically what the user has violated. That way, they may avoid a lot of tickets submitted for every restricted accounts.
Warnings with minor violations are also helpful though.

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August 31, 2024, 12:05:09 PM
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it seems they have a secret, every account is blocked without any notification. i have seen the incident in casino forum but only one account has a problem that causes the account to be blocked. that account has a bug that can benefit the account owner, that could be the reason. actually if there is no notification it is very detrimental to both parties but i don't know why they do that and it often happens in some casinos

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August 31, 2024, 12:06:13 PM
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So my question now is that, do you guys think that casinos are wrong for not giving any reasons for players mistakes before restricting their account? 

Do you guys have a wish that casinos should always give reasons via players provided email before restricting their accounts? 

Anyone who got banned knows why, if they don't get an explanation why, they can find out more about it when they contact support. As you wrote, some people & situations are tricky... but I don't think that casinos should inform someone before restricting them from the site, what should they say: "You are under investigation and you will be restricted"?

And casinos sometimes make a mistake and ban someone who really did nothing wrong. It's probably a very small percentage, but I'm sure it happens sometimes. In such cases, it would be fair for the casino to give someone a chance to defend themselves against the accusations, and I think anyone who has been banned can write to support (I've never been banned in any casino and I don't know) and attach some evidence if there is any. If the casino is fair and honest they will correct the mistake.

So I wouldn't complicate these things, it's hard to deal with many cheaters/abusers of any kind...


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August 31, 2024, 12:13:02 PM
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Well, it's been a popularly raised concern that some players accounts have been restricted without any warning or reason for the restrictions. 

I know that some people can be very tricky, trying to play smart and wanting to paint the reputation of a casino in black. For example, some users will be aware of the ToS of a casino, and they will still ignorantly violate those rules, and when their account gets restricted, they'll start pretending like it's not their fault and begin to tag the casino as a bad site. 

What you have to understand is that no matter how transparent any platform is, there are people that will still violate the terms of service of that platform and pretends ignorant of the offense the committed and there is nothing as ignorantly violating the terms and service of a casino company because literally, that's supposed to be the first information to read before registering with a casino site. However, the reviews of one person about a casino cannot justify their actions excepts in a case of series of reports by users of that casino site.

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Some players accounts also genuinely get restricted because they didn't read the casino terms and policy, and therefore they unknowingly violated the rules and got their accounts blown up. 

I don't know about this but if someone did not violate any terms of service of a casino site I wonder why their account should be restricted for no just reasons. Like I said initially, there is nothing like violating the terms of service of a casino site ignorantly, ignorance shouldn't be an excuse provided that the rules are there and should be strictly obeyed.

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So my question now is that, do you guys think that casinos are wrong for not giving any reasons for players mistakes before restricting their account? 

Money is involved here so you don't expect any warnings or caution when you breached the terms of service. Casino owners even want you to violate those terms so that they can restrict your account so you don't expect any leniency from them if you violate any rules.

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Do you guys have a wish that casinos should always give reasons via players provided email before restricting their accounts? 

Sure they should because if not for any reasons those using their platforms are part of their growth so they owe them explanations if they go against their terms of service so that they can be cleared on what they did that led to their account being restricted.











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August 31, 2024, 12:38:49 PM
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Casinos don't need to warning first their players before restricting the account. It is included in their tos that if a player did something that the casino didn't allow their players to do then they will restrict the account and if the casino is wrong then a player can contact them to fix it. A player should always read tos before playing on their gambling platform instead of just agreeing without reading and we know that some didn't read even though they know that it's important to read it.

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August 31, 2024, 12:39:25 PM
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Not only email but they can send notification on the player's account itself. Because most people will read their email late. But if within his account, and if he is an active player, he can easily see the message.
And that is true, if the account is restricted, then, why would the casino be allowing the user to deposit uany amount of money? Furthermore, it is the user himself has the responsibility to scrutinize the terms of the site to avoid violations. This is why it is usually the player himself who is at fault and not thr site.

Well that's it, I'm sure that if the casino does send an email notification to gamblers, especially those who violate, then it is very unlikely for someone to open the message, in using a cellphone, usually someone will only check their email when they are doing a verification in an application or website registration, but if the scenario is not like that then I think of course what will most likely happen is yes as you said, most likely they will ignore the message and not even realize that there is a notification message coming in.

Yes, I'm also quite strange, if the account is indeed restricted due to violating a rule, then the account should not be accessible or frozen by the casino in the sense that the gambler will not be able to do anything, especially deposits, so in this situation I think it seems that the casino can also be blamed because they still provide access to gamblers to make deposits that should not be like that, and the gamblers are also certainly wrong for ignoring the ToS.

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So my question now is that, do you guys think that casinos are wrong for not giving any reasons for players mistakes before restricting their account? 

Do you guys have a wish that casinos should always give reasons via players provided email before restricting their accounts? 

If we all have like minds about these, do you think it's something that can be archived? How can it be archived? 

The casino expect us to gamble responsibly they have it in their terms all the warnings so if you're extending yourself too much then you should blame yourself for agreeing on something you cannot hold on to.

You are encourage to read the terms and after you read the terms you will be asked if you agree with the terms and by agreeing you are responsible to your action while playing and after playing.

Its not really the terms or the casinos, its your attitude and character, no warning is enough if you are not gambling responsibly.

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August 31, 2024, 12:51:23 PM
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Well, it's been a popularly raised concern that some players accounts have been restricted without any warning or reason for the restrictions. 

I know that some people can be very tricky, trying to play smart and wanting to paint the reputation of a casino in black. For example, some users will be aware of the ToS of a casino, and they will still ignorantly violate those rules, and when their account gets restricted, they'll start pretending like it's not their fault and begin to tag the casino as a bad site. 
It's actually important for the gambling site to give reason for account restrictions and ban but as you can see they would say that their ToS already given all necessary explanation therefore they owes no one any further explanation before restrictions. What i easily noticed in most of the casinos is that when they want to restrict your account they will do it even though you are free from them but they also find any rules that governed that part of their rules and to say is the reason for the limitations.

And most times they even hardly gives reason for doing that and of course it's one painful parts that get people discouraged in online gambling were they think of having to go back to the traditional gambling system which is the local betting shops. In local betting shops all needed to do is just pay and bet your games when they play you just go back with tickets to claim rewards with this it makes it very much easier for gamblers without going through much stressed.

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August 31, 2024, 12:53:36 PM
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So my question now is that, do you guys think that casinos are wrong for not giving any reasons for players mistakes before restricting their account?

Do you guys have a wish that casinos should always give reasons via players provided email before restricting their accounts?
As far as I know, the gambling site will give reason for restricting someone not to continue to gambe on their site. If no reason is given, the person can ask their customer care about the reason and which would be sent to the person in email or even in live chat.

The problem that I see is that the affected person will be lying and telling people that they do not violate the gambling site terms of service but which is a lie.

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August 31, 2024, 01:01:23 PM
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It's a nice idea, and I think it would be better to just send like a warning notification to the players account first before restricting them from using their casino accounts. Most times the major cause of these restrictions are the players them selfs. They play ignorance to little things that are meant to be fully and carefully understood before playing. Some cansinos requires full identification procedures before you are able to make withdrawals. Some don't offer their services to some certain countries and thus these things are written on their Tos.

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August 31, 2024, 01:14:18 PM
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Casinos don't need to warning first their players before restricting the account. It is included in their tos that if a player did something that the casino didn't allow their players to do then they will restrict the account and if the casino is wrong then a player can contact them to fix it. A player should always read tos before playing on their gambling platform instead of just agreeing without reading and we know that some didn't read even though they know that it's important to read it.

Yeah they don't need to warn since at first place they need to read the rules. But can't deny that there are total newbies doesn't understand everything and just gamble directly without knowing the house rules of the casino. With those cases I guess warnings should be serve and this situation will depends on the violation committed by the gambler. Since for sure a casino would know how totally severe the violation committed and if there's cheating and fraud involve then casino have right to automatically restrict their accounts. Many times this reading of TOS topic been tackled up and hopefully people will spend some time reading it since for sure it will not take long hours for them to understand regarding on what they are trying to enter. Then they know what are important things that need to do to make their account safe from restrictions.

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August 31, 2024, 01:15:36 PM
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Do you guys have a wish that casinos should always give reasons via players provided email before restricting their accounts? 

giving a warning before the account is restricted is not a solution. The warning has been given by the casino in the ToS. It's up to the casino user to read it or not. If they insist on violating the ToS, they also know the risks, which are all written there.
Maybe you, or I, could also be a victim like that. But as a gambler who has knowledge, we must be wiser in admitting our mistakes. Not making accusations as if we did nothing wrong.

I'm just sure that when we play at a trusted casino, they will not easily limit or even ban their user accounts. Just send an email that the account has been restricted, that's enough. The warning has been given from the start.

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August 31, 2024, 01:46:46 PM
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So my question now is that, do you guys think that casinos are wrong for not giving any reasons for players mistakes before restricting their account? 
They aren't obligated to give any warnings beforehand, if the player is breaking a rule stated on their terms and conditions. After all, it's expected gamblers know the house's rules before depositing and playing there.

Do you guys have a wish that casinos should always give reasons via players provided email before restricting their accounts? 
To send an email before restricting the account would be a more friendly approach to customers, but it's not something casinos are forced to do. I guess it depends on the style of treatment the casino wishes to render towards their userbase. People would really like a courteous and gracious casino like that, though.

If we all have like minds about these, do you think it's something that can be archived? How can it be archived? 
I don't understand what you mean by this question. Could you reformulate?

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August 31, 2024, 01:51:29 PM
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So my question now is that, do you guys think that casinos are wrong for not giving any reasons for players mistakes before restricting their account?
I think that most of them gives second chance but if the offense is quite heavy, don't expect that and before registration, the rules and agreement is there so there's no exception for that.

That is why their rules tell us that they all have the right to do anything they wish to if someone does a violation against them.

Do you guys have a wish that casinos should always give reasons via players provided email before restricting their accounts?
They can but as most of them likes not disclose any of it. And if someone has done something wrong, they won't just play it out unless you're the type of player that will fight for your rights if you know that you have not done anything wrong.


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August 31, 2024, 01:55:12 PM
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[...] do you guys think that casinos are wrong for not giving any reasons for players mistakes before restricting their account? [...]

No, casinos are not wrong when they do not provide a reason before restricting their users accounts. They (the casinos) will be wrong when they can't provide a reason after a restriction occurs & the user questions the reason. Each casino has their own T&C, in some casinos they even make them read the T&C or check the box of agreement with the T&C before registering an account, users must really understand those T&C, but these days many skip it all because they have excessive intentions to gamble straight away.

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August 31, 2024, 01:55:30 PM
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Some players accounts also genuinely get restricted because they didn't read the casino terms and policy, and therefore they unknowingly violated the rules and got their accounts blown up. 
So my question now is that, do you guys think that casinos are wrong for not giving any reasons for players mistakes before restricting their account? 


This is more like asking for a second chance right off the bat!

Accounts get restricted as you said for breaking the ToS, why would a casino tell the users, hey, we know you are using a multi-account, you are using a VPN to pay from a banned country, we're going to give you a warning, and then shut it down anyhow because that's how it was supposed to be. I can't see why a casino would want to just inform the player he is risking a ban when that might anyhow come, it will simply make players leave, and nobody is going to risk it further.

The only exception it might make a bit of sense would be for sports gaming, warning a player on late betting or that he is placing too many bets on barely known 3rd league matches that have been flagged down, so while he hasn't yet broken the rules his gambling pattern might lead to that.

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