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October 04, 2024, 03:22:54 PM
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There is nothing as good as been rewarded for active participation and meaning contribution to the forum. However, newbie who may not be considered a newbie after ranking up tends to go astray.

After ranking up to member rank, the desire to engage in signature begin to grow after discovering or having known how signature works. Hey this is not to scare you away from signature but I do really think, the quest to meet up with numbers of post tends to lead many to low quality posting

Don't assume to have known much just because you have rank up, but exercise patience to learn well and be more useful to the forum, this will also help you have more quality post than chasing cloud.

This is not a rule but a timely advice to newbie who wants to keep their posting reputation in good standard. 
One meaningful post is better than 15 to 20 post that are low in quality just to fulfill signature requirements.

Rank up your account is not just a small thing in the forum, no matter how smart you are you can't rank up your account in the forum without making a quality post, it may have before but not now because the current forum that we are now is not a forum that you can earn merit easily, you have to show your skills and quality, make a good post that attract people attention when they read it and you will be reward with merit, many newbies find it difficult to grow up because they don't find it easy to move their account to another level.

And about getting a signature campaign, you can't get a signature campaign when you don't know how to post, many people got removed by the manager because the Manager didn't like his performance in the campaign, but I'm still wondering how some people will struggle to move their account the level of Participating in the campaign and at the end, they won't perform well, what are those things that cause it? Because from my point of view, laziness is the cause of it.

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October 04, 2024, 04:25:59 PM
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Real newbie don't give advice of this kind since they will be lacking the knowledge and experience, and they are just focused on building they accounts and knowledge to busy to be engaging in such discussion that only old timers have skills for like this one over here.
Someone with the rank of a member is no longer a newbie. His short stay here is enough for him to relate his experiences to those below his rank. This is not a technical topic that will require him to acquire years of experience before he can advice others. Everyone of us have experienced some level of difficulties ranking up or adapting to the forum during our early days here. I see nothing wrong with his advice, as long as the advice is not misleading.


The truth is, not many who are here in this forum are actually here to learn. Some are just here to make money so, they will do anything to increase their activities count. The good thing about this forum is that there are enough regulations restricting newbies with such mindset from flooding this forum with shit posts and plagiarised contents. The merit system too has been able to force some people to work on their writing  skills. Newbies who are in a hurry to rank up and start earning will only be putting themselves at risk if they try to outsmart the forum moderators.

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October 04, 2024, 05:49:55 PM
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After ranking up to member rank, the desire to engage in signature begin to grow after discovering or having known how signature works. Hey this is not to scare you away from signature but I do really think, the quest to meet up with numbers of post tends to lead many to low quality posting
It's up to signature campaign managers to write terms for their campaigns, and assess post quality before broadcasting payment to signature campaign participants.

If low quality posts are not counted and paid by campaign managers, campaign participants who write these shitposts or low-quality posts will stop and improve their post quality. After some warnings from signature campaign manager, if a campaign participant does not change, he will be eliminated from the campaign.

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This is not a rule but a timely advice to newbie who wants to keep their posting reputation in good standard.  
It will be another newbie jail if newbies won't be allowed to post in reputation board.

I might be misremembering things but I'm pretty sure tips like this have been shared many times before, even the FAQs on boards or unofficial posting guidelines mention quality posting here and there.
Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign). It is a guideline for campaign managers and campaign participants.

Even if the bounty manager gives room for low quality posts I am sure that the forum managers won't, because too much low quality posts becomes a problem for the account as time goes on, I heard that low quality posts can lead to ban as well, correct me if I am wrong.

Mind you, we are all newbie at a time, we ended up getting better at posting on the forum, but OP is right that if anyone comes on this forum solely to particite in signature campaigns, they can easily break the forum rules.

Beginners must go through the forum's rules first before doing anything else, it was my first mistake when I created my forum account years ago, there are many posts about the do and don't of the forum already, not hard to find..

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October 04, 2024, 06:02:03 PM
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Don't assume to have known much just because you have rank up, but exercise patience to learn well and be more useful to the forum, this will also help you have more quality post than chasing cloud.

This is not a rule but a timely advice to newbie who wants to keep their posting reputation in good standard. 
One meaningful post is better than 15 to 20 post that are low in quality just to fulfill signature requirements.
You are right, but most people don't get carried away as you may think, they might just think that they have to post to meetup their signature requirements which is why some have to respond to some threads they have no idea about, but it is still part of learning because we learn every day.
Ranking up is hard because to get merits in this forum these days is very difficult, that is why some of the newbies that ranked up to member rank will be aiming to use their account for signature campaign and keep posting so that they can keep earning and ranking up at the same time.
Quality posters always standout despite the number of comments that has already been made so far in the thread, therefore, it is good to be a quality poster by all means.

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October 04, 2024, 11:17:08 PM
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What I think most newbies does lately is that, when they received a few merits, their begin to act along and play the game thinking that posting to gain merits is same as posting quality posts here in the forum, I think that is not the case, a shit poster may be smart enough to post where his post's will attract attention of some merits Source and at that they end up sending merits to such a profile because the account post in a way that truly get they attention.


Such a member can go on with that mentality and ending up ranking up with such mentality and at the end misout on what to do to post high quality post's regardless of the merits rewards.

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Are there guides to making quality posts??
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October 05, 2024, 09:49:23 AM
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This is not a rule but a timely advice to newbie who wants to keep their posting reputation in good standard.  
One meaningful post is better than 15 to 20 post that are low in quality just to fulfill signature requirements.

You are focusing on newbies in your example, and maybe that rank is the most obvious to talk about low quality posts, exceptions apart. But even among Legendaries you can usually find users who sometimes post ideas which are more meaningful than others, and viceversa. In fact, in my signature's campaign, the Manager warned us recently that it seemed that some participants got too relaxed. But it is true that it is one of the best campaigns in the forum, and that not all managers share the same high standards, or at least not for all campaigns, which is also understandable (if you'll got rewarded a few shitcoins for your participation, if ever, what quality could you be asked to provide!?).

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October 05, 2024, 11:30:39 AM
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There is nothing as good as been rewarded for active participation and meaning contribution to the forum. However, newbie who may not be considered a newbie after ranking up tends to go astray.

After ranking up to member rank, the desire to engage in signature begin to grow after discovering or having known how signature works. Hey this is not to scare you away from signature but I do really think, the quest to meet up with numbers of post tends to lead many to low quality posting

Don't assume to have known much just because you have rank up, but exercise patience to learn well and be more useful to the forum, this will also help you have more quality post than chasing cloud.

This is not a rule but a timely advice to newbie who wants to keep their posting reputation in good standard. 
One meaningful post is better than 15 to 20 post that are low in quality just to fulfill signature requirements.
It is even rare to see signature campaigns that recruit member ranks and below so if a newbie is rushing to join signature, as long as the forum rules are not broken, I don't see any problem with that as it is up to the manager of the campaigns to select who they consider ideal for the campaign they manage. It is not bad to aspire to earn extra income from the forum as most of you make it look, it could just be a motivation for newbies to engage actively in discussions across the forum. What will become bad is spamming and breaking the forum rules in effort to appear intelligent or smart, something I noctice that is common among newbies.











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October 06, 2024, 08:00:18 PM
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Post like this makes a whole lot of sense actually but it would have been appreciated the most if you had made it different by probably giving some guide to making quality post because before this thread of yours dead OP there have been similar threads that speaks about almost same thing in an even elaborate form.

This isn't a bad one though, maybe it will serve as a reminder to others especially newbies who will come across it and have probably haven't come across others before this one.

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October 07, 2024, 02:57:08 PM
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Are there guides to making quality posts??


There are but I think the question should have been, what made a post not to be quality enough and I will say they are definitely plagiarism, if you are making a content that is not yours even though it's quality, it will be taken as offensive post because they are not yours and you may be tagged for doing such. It's better to give credit for such post or any information that didn't come directly from your head, you can simply used quote and you are good to go.

Another quick note is that you should learn about Bitcoin, altcoins and other things related to cryptocurrency, if you don't learn this things, I'm afraid you will only be spamming and posting unrelated things, probably spamming every board with unrelated things and in the end, you will get tagged for doing so. Lastly, read things before you reply, otherwise you will only be making off replies which will probably get deleted or in off topic board, similar to when you post off thread/topic.
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October 08, 2024, 02:34:11 PM
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There is nothing as good as been rewarded for active participation and meaning contribution to the forum. However, newbie who may not be considered a newbie after ranking up tends to go astray.

After ranking up to member rank, the desire to engage in signature begin to grow after discovering or having known how signature works. Hey this is not to scare you away from signature but I do really think, the quest to meet up with numbers of post tends to lead many to low quality posting

Don't assume to have known much just because you have rank up, but exercise patience to learn well and be more useful to the forum, this will also help you have more quality post than chasing cloud.

This is not a rule but a timely advice to newbie who wants to keep their posting reputation in good standard. 
One meaningful post is better than 15 to 20 post that are low in quality just to fulfill signature requirements.
It is even rare to see signature campaigns that recruit member ranks and below so if a newbie is rushing to join signature, as long as the forum rules are not broken, I don't see any problem with that as it is up to the manager of the campaigns to select who they consider ideal for the campaign they manage. It is not bad to aspire to earn extra income from the forum as most of you make it look, it could just be a motivation for newbies to engage actively in discussions across the forum. What will become bad is spamming and breaking the forum rules in effort to appear intelligent or smart, something I noctice that is common among newbies.
Well I think you are right because as long as this Bitcointalk forum is concerned is very hard for you to see a signature campaign that is accepting member rank. Though sometimes I used to wonder why most newbie are always inquisitive to join signature campaign although we know that everybody need fund to take do one or two but is actually good for us to gether the knowledge first so that it'll enable us contribute meaningful in the forum and rank up to full member before thinking about signature campaign because even though if you don't learn how to make a meaningful post you are still going to find it difficult when you join campaign.

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October 10, 2024, 07:02:02 PM
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This is not a rule but a timely advice to newbie who wants to keep their posting reputation in good standard.  
One meaningful post is better than 15 to 20 post that are low in quality just to fulfill signature requirements.
You have a very good advice. There I no need to rush in ranking up and joining a signature campaign. Because this could lead to some mistakes which will be costly. It is better to enjoy the forum and grow naturally.

Are there guides to making quality posts??
This link might help you to know more about posting. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0.

Quality posts are contributions that are beneficial to the community. When you can give out helpful information that educates, solves problems or answers questions, you are a quality poster. For me, the easiest way to become a quality poster is to keep learning and through observation. You would be able to contribute meaningfully to the forum if you keep researching. And by observing reputable members, you can easily learn from them.

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Op, I'm not trying to condemn your efforts in creating a thread to guide newbies in this forum on how to rank up to Full Member rank and above, but this your post lacks the solution that will guide newbies in achieving Full Member rank and above. Because you fail to explain to newbies what a meaningful post is and how they can possibly post a meaningful post. And you also fail to advise newbies not to join a signature campaign when they gain their member rank in this forum, so that they will not be in a hurry when posting in this forum. This will help the newbies in this forum to learn and grow because they will have enough time to research and bring ideas that will be of help to this forum since they will not have to meet up any signature campaign post count in a week.

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October 11, 2024, 07:15:14 PM
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After ranking up to member rank, the desire to engage in signature begin to grow after discovering or having known how signature works. Hey this is not to scare you away from signature but I do really think, the quest to meet up with numbers of post tends to lead many to low quality posting

There are many campaigns that have it in their rules that low-quality posts get paid. And that is how it works; that is why many users here on the forum who participate in signature campaigns try to put in hard work to make them. Quality posts before the end of the week to get paid. If they did not do so, they will get removed without payment by the campaign manager, so regardless of your rank, as long as the campaign will accept the member rank, it is up to you to apply. There is nothing like getting scared; just make sure you meet up with the requirements of the campaign. 
 
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Don't assume to have known much just because you have rank up, but exercise patience to learn well and be more useful to the forum, this will also help you have more quality post than chasing cloud.

Yeah sure. Learning never stops, and for the fact that here is a learning environment regardless of the user rank, he needs to learn more in the forum and also get engaged in meaningful and educational conversations that will help other people to grow in knowledge. 

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Op, I'm not trying to condemn your efforts in creating a thread to guide newbies in this forum on how to rank up to Full Member rank and above, but this your post lacks the solution that will guide newbies in achieving Full Member rank and above. Because you fail to explain to newbies what a meaningful post is and how they can possibly post a meaningful post. And you also fail to advise newbies not to join a signature campaign when they gain their member rank in this forum, so that they will not be in a hurry when posting in this forum. This will help the newbies in this forum to learn and grow because they will have enough time to research and bring ideas that will be of help to this forum since they will not have to meet up any signature campaign post count in a week.
Mentioning signature campaigns will only make newbies more focused on it rather than learning and the intention to contribute to the forum through posting posts that of good/high quality. It is also not necessarily to spoon-fed everything that a person know about something as to make other people think that a person should put an effort to what they want to do or else those people woluld only depends on someone to help them when they have something they couldn't understand.

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This is not a rule but a timely advice to newbie who wants to keep their posting reputation in good standard. 
One meaningful post is better than 15 to 20 post that are low in quality just to fulfill signature requirements.
True one meaningful post is better than 20 low-quality posts. Since you know this hypothesis why do you have 384 posts and only 30 merits? This means you have failed to make a quality post in the forum. Only 30% of your posts have good qualities and the rest are not eligible to be merit. Perhaps you just know about this now and that is why you want to share it with the public Good one. Once you make a massive contribution to the forum, once can still be a newbie but have the quality and requirement of a legendary member.

Note: The essence of ranking up is not for signature campaigns as any newbies who have that in mind will never rank up in the forum.

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October 12, 2024, 03:32:59 AM
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it's not always deficult to set a goal for yourself and try to stick to it. Ensuring that your post is of high quality shouldn't be all about trying to get into a signature campaign or trying to do so while meeting up with the required numbers of post you're to make in a day. It starts even from your first contribution in the forum and how you prioritize quality over quantity. Your level of knowledge in different subject matter also plays a huge role because at the end of the day, it's not going to be all about the length of your post but more about the quality in it be it just a two line post or a lengthy one.

You know that the structure of the forum gives you a no resting zone because thier are always going to be ranks to be ambitious about and what takes you their is not just that you're in a signature campaign. It's all about being a consistent quality poster that's an asset to the form. Even you, you're still at the low point on the forum, it's not a stage where you should be advising newbies too often. You've got to keep moving and try to become better every day and also learn about Bitcoin, the form and also build your investment portfolio which is actually one of the most important things you've got to do.
Yes Setting goals and achieving them should not be hard. But in online forums quality is more important than quantity. We do not just focus on posting a lot or meeting requirements. Instead of this make sure our posts are helpful and valuable from start. Knowing different subjects is important. Short post can be more useful than long one. Even if we are new keep learning about Bitcoin and about forum.  To be valuable to forum we need to keep improving and growing. Focus on making ourself better and posting quality content.

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Don't assume to have known much just because you have rank up, but exercise patience to learn well and be more useful to the forum, this will also help you have more quality post than chasing cloud.

Merits is meant to show your evolvement on the forum, it was meant to highlight quality posts but it hasn't fully achieved this purpose but arguably, anybody that has received merit is meant to be a quality poster with some knowledge of what he's sharing with the community.

Your ranking up shouldn't be seen as some achievement that you did all by yourself and your knowledge because alot of newbies get help from meriters for just trying. I see lots of merits on threads that only shows some sort of support to the user involved.

After ranking up, the next thing is to rank up your quality posts too because you might likely not get the same support you were getting as a newbie when you become a Snr/Hero member.

You're automatically seen as someone that should know what they're saying so if you don't improve, you might begin to fall short of the merits.

 
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There is nothing as good as been rewarded for active participation and meaning contribution to the forum. However, newbie who may not be considered a newbie after ranking up tends to go astray.

After ranking up to member rank, the desire to engage in signature begin to grow after discovering or having known how signature works. Hey this is not to scare you away from signature but I do really think, the quest to meet up with numbers of post tends to lead many to low quality posting.
If poor quality posts are as results of members trying to meet up their post counts then this accuse should not be hold personally on the newbies but members who has been admitted to signature campaigns.
Although I would quite agree with you that some members are due to meeting up their post counts tends to produce low quality posts


Don't assume to have known much just because you have rank up, but exercise patience to learn well and be more useful to the forum, this will also help you have more quality post than chasing cloud.
Here in ranking up is a significant that your knowledge is growing and your quality contributions to the forum is the determinant of your ranking up through which your posts were able to earn you merits while activity counts is automated by your post counts.

You might actually know much but impossible to know it all and that is why even the high ranked members of the forum do ask questions and carrying on consultational researches in the forum for clarity at where they are complicated or have no knowledge about.











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True one meaningful post is better than 20 low-quality posts. Since you know this hypothesis why do you have 384 posts and only 30 merits? This means you have failed to make a quality post in the forum. Only 30% of your posts have good qualities and the rest are not eligible to be merit. Perhaps you just know about this now and that is why you want to share it with the public Good one. Once you make a massive contribution to the forum, once can still be a newbie but have the quality and requirement of a legendary member.

Note: The essence of ranking up is not for signature campaigns as any newbies who have that in mind will never rank up in the forum.
I have the same thought as you; quality posters do earn merits by all means because their posts always contain informative or educative content that will guide or help others in the forum, and we have seen many quality posters that have earned merits above expectations and they don't even care about their ranks because maybe they are here to either learn or share some information to the public and the merits they receive serve as their reward for the good deed and their effort.
Although, merits are scarce these days in the forum, but yet, quality posts are still merited by merit sources.

Some people do join the forum because of the signature campaign, you can't blame them because most of them are looking for ways to earn a living depending on their respective economic situation, and lack of work. The main aim is to share the right information and contribute to the forum positively.

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