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October 01, 2024, 03:41:42 PM
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Now, without a TV deal, Power Slap has turned to betting partners to bring in more profit after losing their TV deals.
So I'm hoping this post sparks some discussion about the theatricality of what we should be betting on.
Just like we avoid betting on animal sports because this perpetuates the needless breeding and therefore abuse of animals...
Its for the same reasons that we should consider avoiding betting on sports that have very high potential to leave their athletes disabled.
Power slap is cruel and unethical, On all contact sports, all fighters are participants and are advised to always protect themselves at all times, and the art of contact sport are all about protecting and defending yourself, something that you cannot find on power slap.
The participants are defenseless and left to the mercy of the giver of the slap, and because of this, the receiver is going to suffer damage from the power of his opponent, and he can't do anything from it. Honestly,  I can't stand watching this sport, its like defenseless killing of human beings. Those who love this type of sport have savage minds. No wonder only few people supports this type of sport

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October 01, 2024, 04:05:00 PM
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Its for the same reasons that we should consider avoiding betting on sports that have very high potential to leave their athletes disabled.
Some kind of people who happen to be gamblers can be unethical and not mind betting or even viewing these sorts of sports that are dangerous to people. They are supporters of the game so far as they are not the one receiving the slaps. There are some other new kind of sports that I will never consider also like this, like the sex championship and the balls kicking competition. Those are all strange things to call sports.

Balls kicking is the worst I've seen. Can't believe they ever thought of making it a competition but this is where mankind is going, we find the thrills in watching outrageous sports. There used to be boxing and kickboxing only but before they became a sport, people in the past thought of it as just violence.

If the consideration of it to become a sport depends on normal people, the debate will last forever. But once they organize a commission and people bet and pay to watch it it will not be so different from the roosters fighting with knives on their heels.

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October 01, 2024, 04:22:18 PM
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Personally, Slapping someone in a hurtful way participant of those slap contest do is both unhealthy and unethical. Participating in such sports means that you're certainly going to face earning impediment sonner than the latter days of your life and that's definitely a tough price to pay regardless of the financial gain that comes with participating in such sports.

The effect it will have on children who might watch those kind of sports and desire to partake in them is on another level at the time we're complaining is sex being classified as a sports .
I am one of the people that detests being slapped or slapping a younger one or child to correct the younger one. I take a slap to be a total insult to the party involved, so I don't see any fun in having two adults disrespect themselves openly to make money or gain popularity.

Some people might enjoy it, maybe those that love brutality, but for myself, it's a real red flag for me and I can't gamble on such











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October 01, 2024, 04:40:15 PM
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It was sickening to see this kind of sport; it's cruel, it's punishing, and it's a real insult to contact sports, Imagine power slapping someone who is defenseless.
Based on this article powerslap can cause  Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE)

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This latest "sport" can cause Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE). This is a neurodegenerative disease that can result from repeated head injuries, ranging from mild concussions to speech impediments and dementia.

And all participants can suffer from this condition because they are defenseless and at the mercy of their slapper, Sports-loving citizens should boycott this sport; its not a sport worth supporting.

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As far as I've seen with the Power Slap competition has just been guys slapping guys and women slapping women.  Now, I would have a real issue with it if it were guys slapping women, to me that would be pretty disgusting and unfair.  Other than that I just equate it to like boxing or UFC.  You know all the potential harms and dangers that come along with it, you've got to sign waivers and all that, so I say let them play if they know the dangers, just like with football or boxing.

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October 01, 2024, 04:44:53 PM
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Personally, Slapping someone in a hurtful way participant of those slap contest do is both unhealthy and unethical. Participating in such sports means that you're certainly going to face earning impediment sonner than the latter days of your life and that's definitely a tough price to pay regardless of the financial gain that comes with participating in such sports.

The effect it will have on children who might watch those kind of sports and desire to partake in them is on another level at the time we're complaining is sex being classified as a sports .
I am one of the people that detests being slapped or slapping a younger one or child to correct the younger one. I take a slap to be a total insult to the party involved, so I don't see any fun in having two adults disrespect themselves openly to make money or gain popularity.

Some people might enjoy it, maybe those that love brutality, but for myself, it's a real red flag for me and I can't gamble on such
Your beliefs are held true to good ethical standards in my view and I can't come to think how anyone valuing freedoms, as I assume most bitcoin users would like to say for themselves, could support corporal punishment of children.

It's not surprising though, that this so called "sport" that involves hitting another person defenseless directly to the face, is mostly popular in countries where corporal punishment against children is legal.
Oddly enough even today in 2024 no U.S. state has outlawed beating your own kids. Similarly in Russia where decades of conservative governance have lead to such beliefs being perpetuated, this is where this "sport" rose to fame. So I'd argue that the slapping "sport" is actually doing a disservice to the whole world's society. Hopefully crypto sites will boycott Power Slap it too.

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October 01, 2024, 05:49:06 PM
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I also feel that Power Slap is an unethical competition and has no art at all. Because in this competition, participants need to slap their opponents as hard as possible and are not allowed to use defense to block the slap. Even when I saw the video of this competition for the first time, I felt horrified and ached seeing how the participants' faces were swollen black, and some participants even went beyond their limits, persisting in order to win the competition, even though their faces were already bleeding and swollen. But that's how it is, even though we feel it is unethical, there are people who like this kind of competition and are still willing to bet on it.

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October 01, 2024, 08:19:45 PM
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I definitely wouldn't bet on it, from the first day I saw this kind of thing, I immediately repudiated it, I don't think it should be considered a sport unless they made some changes to the rules, such as people being able to defend themselves and also using some kind of gloves on their hands so that they don't cause too much damage to the opponent. In most sports, people can defend themselves, but in the case of this sport, there is no option for people to defend themselves, the face and ears are exposed to damage.



Power Slap star almost unrecognisable as he shows off devastating facial injuries after brutal defeat

source: https://talksport.com/mma/1622166/power-slap-austin-turpin-facial-injuries-footage/

I highly doubt that this strange sport will be adopted in many countries, it will probably be in some countries and even TV channels will be avoiding broadcasting this sport because the participants have no way of defending themselves.

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Last time, there's the balls/d!ck kicking and now there's the power slaps. However, I've known this more than the former and it's actually a competitive sport that originated in somewhere in Russia and then, I think that it became viral throughout social media and adopted by other nearby countries because it's more about the entertainment that it brings to the viewers.

Now, without a TV deal, Power Slap has turned to betting partners to bring in more profit after losing their TV deals.
So I'm hoping this post sparks some discussion about the theatricality of what we should be betting on.
To be honest, with all of these valuations that Dana is giving. It's no different from the startup companies giving high valuation to them but because it's Dana that has given that value and he's proven his worth and way of doing business in the entertainment and sporting industry. People will just have to adhere on what he says for the valuation of it. Otherwise, someone who's also known will step up and will have to let him defend his way of valuating it.

Just like we avoid betting on animal sports because this perpetuates the needless breeding and therefore abuse of animals...
Its for the same reasons that we should consider avoiding betting on sports that have very high potential to leave their athletes disabled.
Even so, we can't stop everyone from betting to these type of sports when they're too invested on it. And the same goes to the casinos that will put this on their bookies. About having high potential disabling their athletes, we've seen it from contact sports like UFC and mostly in boxing.

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October 01, 2024, 09:10:50 PM
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Now, without a TV deal, Power Slap has turned to betting partners to bring in more profit after losing their TV deals.
So I'm hoping this post sparks some discussion about the theatricality of what we should be betting on.
Just like we avoid betting on animal sports because this perpetuates the needless breeding and therefore abuse of animals...
Its for the same reasons that we should consider avoiding betting on sports that have very high potential to leave their athletes disabled.
I thought the Power Slapping games is ought to be an entertaining activity supposed to be that audience buys tickets to watch and finding it enjoyable.

I am curious to understand what you mean by this game "loosing in the TV deal".
Or is it that audience has later on fine the game not interesting to watch or what? Because I myself does not find that game interest so I just wonder why anyone would even have to subscribe to watching it as a fun talk more or betting on it.

Indeed some reviews need to be made on that game because we much people are betting on it is giving some kind encouragements of participants to keep it up even when known that the tortures alongside is hurt and could cause much damages to most sensitive organs connected to the head.

Although one thing has been a sure banker that humans could do anything to make money and that is why bettors do not mind what activities they bets on selling their humanity conscience ness.











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October 01, 2024, 09:33:41 PM
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I don't know why I found this game very dangerous. My reason for saying this is that the level of injury most players get at the end of the day will take months or even years to recover. I mistakenly got to watch one of the vide where one of the players was slapped and he immediately passed out. Quickly he was rushed into an ambulance, no one knew if he would be fine or if something bad had happened to him. However, all the players are aware of the consequences and it is in their choice to make if they would partake or not
Most of those that engage activily in this kind of game become def over the years and majority of other's end up with life time ear injury, so this game is mostly discouraged and seen as outlaws games and for some reason there is speculations that slap game is mostly prisoner's game and that is it originate from among immates.
That the reason this game become illegal in some countries because of the physical and internal impact of the game on the players,

 
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October 01, 2024, 09:55:39 PM
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On the account of some kind of sports leaving athletes disabled I agree but am sure they had weighed in on the risk involved and have had to sign some sort of legal document stating that they on their own accord chose to participate in such a sport.

I have seen this power slap games on the cable network and social media and although I detest such kind of purposeful brutality and violence, it makes me laugh when I see some of these athletes actually training their hands while practicing their slap Technics with big plants of watermelon that don't last long.
The athletes also do well to wear teeth braces as they care more for their dentals than the concussion and deformation that can come with such high close impact on the skull.

Sincerely, I think I would win more if I do focus on placing bets on power slap contestants, because with the rounds, the strength or power or force of slap from a competition can be rated by their muscle mass, bone length and density and the physiological structure of the hands.

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Many people will just do a whole lot of awful and disgusting things all in the name of making money, either as the organiser of the game, the competitor, or the people who place bets on those games, and the more people pick interest in placing bets on such games even without their TV deal, that's how populous the game will be getting. 
 
Any type of sport that can lead one of the competitors to grate injury is what I don't find very pleasing to watch talk more of placing my bet on them; some kind of entertainment shouldn't even be allowed to be made a legal sport event.

 
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October 01, 2024, 11:26:46 PM
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I don't know why I found this game very dangerous. My reason for saying this is that the level of injury most players get at the end of the day will take months or even years to recover. I mistakenly got to watch one of the vide where one of the players was slapped and he immediately passed out. Quickly he was rushed into an ambulance, no one knew if he would be fine or if something bad had happened to him. However, all the players are aware of the consequences and it is in their choice to make if they would partake or not

Athletes can make any "their own choice" they want, this does not cancel the laws. If one of the participants dies/gets seriously injured, the organizers of these competitions will sweat in court proving that they did everything for the safety of the athletes and this was an accident and not a natural outcome of the essence of the competition. I also think that this is a dangerous competition and generally unhealthy, it looks like a conscious mutilation of yourself/your opponent. On the one hand, people participate in this voluntarily, but on the other hand, maybe I wouldn't mind if it was banned.

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October 01, 2024, 11:42:54 PM
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I don't know why I found this game very dangerous. My reason for saying this is that the level of injury most players get at the end of the day will take months or even years to recover. I mistakenly got to watch one of the vide where one of the players was slapped and he immediately passed out. Quickly he was rushed into an ambulance, no one knew if he would be fine or if something bad had happened to him. However, all the players are aware of the consequences and it is in their choice to make if they would partake or not
Alright, that's the danger that most of you guys are afraid of about this so-called bet slap game. My fears is directed on kids and teenagers who may have  somehow watched these games and decides to practice it with their fellows in the absence of their guidances or parents... I honestly for God's sake don't want to imagine the danger this poses because children are know to always practice many of the things they see adults do without knowing the consequences.

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October 01, 2024, 11:57:09 PM
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So I'm hoping this post sparks some discussion about the theatricality of what we should be betting on.
Just like we avoid betting on animal sports because this perpetuates the needless breeding and therefore abuse of animals...
Its for the same reasons that we should consider avoiding betting on sports that have very high potential to leave their athletes disabled.

At start a few years ago, I watched a lot of videos about these competitions when it was still an amateur thing and the first competitions were just starting to gain popularity.

At the time, it was interesting and different, and people rarely fell to the ground or fainted; at most, they got a little dizzy. However, lately, it has become something brutal and I certainly no longer consider it something to be enjoyed because of what happens to the competitors.

In my opinion, this can no longer be called a sport. To me, these competitions are nothing more than a mere event to raise money. Why is that? Because in sports, people dedicate themselves to developing a skill, but in power slap, is there any skill involved other than hitting hard with the right part of the hand on the most vulnerable point of the head? For me, it only depends on the physiological ability of strength versus resistance of the opponents.

I have read some studies that this type of competition is actually more violent than boxing or soccer. I hope that the authorities reinforce the rules against this type of competition or perhaps even ban it, because in my opinion, it has lost its appeal.

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October 02, 2024, 02:13:49 AM
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It's ethical.

AFAIK there are no countries forbid slapping to adults, many countries only forbid slapping to children.

It's true the fighter can be disabled or injured, but they're agree for that and they're making money from joining this sports.
I did a quick google search on the definition of the "ethical" and these are the results.
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-morally good or correct
-avoiding activities or organizations that do harm to people or the environment
Can you please tell me if slapping other people's face is morally good or correct? It also said the phrase "avoiding harm to people". Now tell me that those participants are avoiding harm to each other.

Yes, there are no countries that forbid slapping to other people, but that doesn't mean that it's ethical to do it. Yes, they can join and it's their choice to do it, but does it mean that what they're doing is considered "ETHICAL" already?

It's entertaining to see the reaction when they get slapped, it make you satisfied when watch every match. In boxing or MMA, not every match is entertaining to watch, one can going full defend or run away until the time run out.
Yes, it's entertaining (for other), but that doesn't mean that it's ethical. I don't want to watch it TBH because of how brutal and cruel it is, but I don't blame those who are joining maybe because of the prize that they can get, and never mind of the possible risks, injuries or anything bad they will be having as long as they will have that prize on everytournament.

I don't want to label those who're entertained to see people slapping on each other's faces. I don't see any satisfying on the whole sport at all TBH. Kindly tell me what part are considered "satisfying" on the whole sport?

 
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I wouldn't even call it a separate sport, but since many people do, there's nothing to be done. There are indeed a lot of injuries in these competitions, and the bad thing is that players have no way to defend themselves. In my opinion, the rules need to be modified somehow to make them more humane. In many cases, I wouldn't even call it a slap - it's a regular punch to the face. In addition to the health risks, there can be many cosmetic consequences. There may be a problem with the eyes. Although, of course, there are other equally traumatic sports that are popular for betting. For example, fist fights without any protection. Nevertheless, many fighters consciously take a very high risk of injury.

 
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Actually, this sport is not that dangerous because if there is risk, it is fainting and in this sport there is also medical team that has been tested so that it is quite capable of handling every athlete who is injured or fainted, moreover there are many other types of sports that are much more dangerous but in reality until now it can still continue and has many fans.
I don't know why Power Slap can be criticized by sports lovers, but what is clear is that I still consider this sport the same as other sports with comparable risks such as free fights, MMA and also boxing which even have risks that are much more fatal than Power Slap.
But on the other hand, I myself am not that interested in Power Slap and even though there are bets in it, I will not follow it and this is not because of the potential for dangerous risks for each athlete but because there is no enthusiasm for this one sport.
Are you sure about your assumption that Power Slap is not a very dangerous sport?
As Davidvictorson said, sports can be really dangerous when receiving a strong blow, and our face is very close to our brain, which can damage brain cells and cause someone to become disabled for life. Whereas the brain is the most important part of the body.

If you say that Power Slap has risks comparable to MMA, that is a very wrong assumption. Look at what seoincorporation said that UFC (or MMA) has techniques for self defense or avoiding punches. Whereas Power Slap cannot avoid anything except just resigning to endure the pain of being slapped very hard.
Well, you should have considered this more deeply before saying that.

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I wouldn't even call it a separate sport, but since many people do, there's nothing to be done. There are indeed a lot of injuries in these competitions, and the bad thing is that players have no way to defend themselves. In my opinion, the rules need to be modified somehow to make them more humane. In many cases, I wouldn't even call it a slap - it's a regular punch to the face. In addition to the health risks, there can be many cosmetic consequences. There may be a problem with the eyes. Although, of course, there are other equally traumatic sports that are popular for betting. For example, fist fights without any protection. Nevertheless, many fighters consciously take a very high risk of injury.

That a 100% hit. I have mentioned already in different topic, that it is not a slap, but a direct hit. A hit that you are not allowed to block or evade. That is just stupid. Any combat sport teach not only how to do damage, but how to evade that or minimize it. In Power Slap, you are defenceless. Even a murder or a person who has done something really awful is given an attorney in court. In power slaps, a person get a 100% possible damage with 0 chance to be safe. Masochists at least receive please from pain, but here, you get only little amount of money. People get 2-30k for taking such a serious damage is very low.

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