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Today at 08:11:03 AM
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It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

When playing dice, people have no control over anything. When playing a card game or betting on sports, people have control over the game if they only have great skill. For example, if a person decides to play a slot machine, that person puts money in the machine and presses the button and waits for the result. That person has no control over anything. There is no strategy that that person can use to change the result. But when a person is playing a card game or betting on sports, that person has time to analyze the games and create a strategy that allows him to win. So in my opinion, games of chance that do not depend on luck allow people to be in control.

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Today at 08:33:56 AM
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It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

If we are going to discuss dice games, I remember when I was new to crypto casino, these dice games are often used as gambling bets, and I even use them as a martingale because I read something here on the forum that says that when you lose, the next time you lose, double your bet.

As long as you're losing, you double it. At first, it was effective, but the longer you play, it doesn't become effective because, in the end, I still lose because I experienced it before; I was able to roll 15x and I still didn't win. So in short, the martingale method is not effective in dice games.

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Today at 08:35:48 AM
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It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

When playing dice, people have no control over anything. When playing a card game or betting on sports, people have control over the game if they only have great skill. For example, if a person decides to play a slot machine, that person puts money in the machine and presses the button and waits for the result. That person has no control over anything. There is no strategy that that person can use to change the result. But when a person is playing a card game or betting on sports, that person has time to analyze the games and create a strategy that allows him to win. So in my opinion, games of chance that do not depend on luck allow people to be in control.

Of course, to some extent, but it could vary from the idea of Op, he is mainly referring to players who think they can control no skill games due to their experience and the period of time they've spent on the game. Which is common amongst slot players. A times when playing  roulettes I imagine my next prediction to fall on red, but it ends up being false.

Perhaps such thoughts is what retains most players to continue losing in slots, because nobody would want to stay with what they can't control. Hence, the illusion of control created within the player drives him to assume that the results are dependent on his decision. Though risky, but most players prefer being in that mode than accepting the truth that they can't manipulate any results in slots.

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Today at 09:30:20 AM
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If they think like that, they will never see the reality from gambling which they can lose much money. They can not control the games but they can control themselves not to lose big. Playing dice game can makes us lose control because we can feels the games is exciting and gives pleasure to us. We will difficult to recognize the pattern from gambling games so that will not easy to win. We must handle our brain so that will not assume that we can control the games. No matters how hard we do, we will still lose as gambling is only for have fun.

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Today at 09:40:42 AM
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If they think like that, they will never see the reality from gambling which they can lose much money. They can not control the games but they can control themselves not to lose big. Playing dice game can makes us lose control because we can feels the games is exciting and gives pleasure to us. We will difficult to recognize the pattern from gambling games so that will not easy to win. We must handle our brain so that will not assume that we can control the games. No matters how hard we do, we will still lose as gambling is only for have fun.
I think it helps a lot to understand the processes in gambling when we know a lot about how it works. For example, how a casino makes money, what are the features of each game, be it poker, betting or slots. For example, slots are not very interesting to me, because I don’t want to mindlessly press one button, I want to conduct at least a small analysis of the bets and apply mental effort, for me it’s interesting. I can’t understand those who bet on luck, it’s not interesting to me at all. Although I understand that all players are different and some just want to press a button and have cash fall at their feet.

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Today at 09:54:12 AM
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It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

I think that is just one way of keeping your composure while gambling. It is important that you won't lose your cool and be in control with your emotion all the time, to avoid getting frustrated and place bets recklessly. We might call it an illusion, but it somehow helps us manage the risks in gambling. We tend to get good results when we are in a good mood for gambling. Even if you're not winning, being in a good mood will definitely keep you away from any emotional and mental stress related in gambling. But hey, a lot of people believes in it though. Every single person in a casino has a way of how they throw the dice in. Well, except for those multi millionaires who's only there for pure fun, they could always carelessly throw the dice in lol.

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Today at 10:15:57 AM
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It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

Its funny you know, how some gamblers think they can actually beat the algorithm used in programming gambling’s random results generation. They all still arrive at the same end which is regret to have not conceived the thought in the first place. I have friends who actually thought they can master pattern in aviator game after lossing for a while all in the name of mastering the algorithm, they still ending up losing more even after they thought they have known it all. Gambling isn’t just like every other random game, if it was that easy I believe many person would have amounted millionaires by just gambling. With the example you gave it’s clear to everyone how gambling operate, the dice is indeed the best explanation to how gambling works.
This is familiar about me. I had a comrade who for a long time and stubbornly tried to play the dice according to the Martingale system. It took a lot of time to understand that the system is good only at short distances and in general it was not viable. If this scheme would have been casino for a long time. If it worked, but not everyone wants to understand this.

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Today at 10:28:44 AM
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When playing a card game or betting on sports, people have control over the game if they only have great skill.
This is not true for card games as long as you are gambling against the house or the gambling site.

If you are playing Blackjack or Baccarat in a way that you are gambling against the house, it is not different from when you are playing non card games like roulettes and dices.

Even if it is poker and you are gambling against the house and not other gamblers, it is also still not different.

Sport can be different but also very risky.

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Today at 10:43:15 AM
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So let's discuss about it.
Everyone knows that we often see gambling and from the experiences that occur, someone who is involved in the game, their brain continues to create or perceive what they see, In fact, the things that will happen are not yet real or their position is not clear, this does not only happen in dice games, almost all types of games have the same view.

For this reason, it is not surprising that we all often apply the Illusion property in our brains in all bets and often think about if I play like this, this way or why I don't do it this way to win, Even though we do that, the final result still doesn't match what we want and in the end it appears to us that gambling looks like cheating in all types of games, So gamble as much as you can, don't overdo it or it will create uncontrollable illusions.

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Today at 11:09:40 AM
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It can happen sometimes, I guess if we are playing too much of the same game, that's when it will trigger. We think we are professionals in playing that game but the truth is there's no such thing as gambling.
If you are talking about physical dice, it is true that we cannot control it except we are cheating and we put something on the dice that will make us control it. But when it is just normal dice, there's no telling what number will come out.
The same with online gambling dice, actually it's worse, we don't see dice rolling anymore and it's not us throwing the dice because everything is just an image that we see on the monitor. We cannot expect the gambling sites to give us profits like it is a charity, it's always business first so must lose.

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Today at 11:17:29 AM
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Isn't the chance of winning same as chance of losing, so I do not understand why there would be any sort of illusions. And if you are aware of your chances, you would never be under control of someone. Also, if you are a gambler and trying to find out a pattern which might be the most beneficial, you are just wrong. The chances of a trick/pattern to work is just as same as a monkey rolling the dice.

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Today at 11:24:36 AM
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It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

I think that is just one way of keeping your composure while gambling. It is important that you won't lose your cool and be in control with your emotion all the time, to avoid getting frustrated and place bets recklessly. We might call it an illusion, but it somehow helps us manage the risks in gambling. We tend to get good results when we are in a good mood for gambling. Even if you're not winning, being in a good mood will definitely keep you away from any emotional and mental stress related in gambling. But hey, a lot of people believes in it though. Every single person in a casino has a way of how they throw the dice in. Well, except for those multi millionaires who's only there for pure fun, they could always carelessly throw the dice in lol.

Really that hard on such situation on which specially if you are already that winning. You would really be pushing up yourself to play even more because of having the hopes that you could be able to make more.
When we do gamble then this is where things becomes that having a hard situation specially when you do hinder whether you do make out some withdrawal or would really be playing up further because you've been hoping on something that you do have wish in mind. Its true that there would really be moments that no matter how aware we are on such condition but still there would really be that urge that you should really be playing even more and having those kind of intuition or guts that you might be winning on the next bet. This is the main reason on why gambling is really that a profitable business into its owners because into its known
flaws on which a human being do have, on the time or moment that they will be making out such engagement. There are people who are really that good when it comes to self control and discipline but majority
will really be able to forget on the time or moment that they will experience those times where greed into its peak. Honestly, we arent that perfect on which no matter how old or veteran you are in gambling field
but since we are just humans then there would really be those times or moments that you will really be able to feel out these things along the way. This is why it will really be that recommended that you should be
careful and mindful on the actions that you would really be taking.

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Today at 11:26:01 AM
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It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

I agree with that. Often, it happens that I hit 99 twice, and I think the next bet is safe. I can go all in, and then the next bet can come another 99 as well. It's possible to hit multiple 1.01x in a row, and it's not impossible. But once we get a couple of low payouts in a row, we think the next bet will be safe, and we can place a big amount now. But we end up getting another red.

Sometimes, this confidence works as well. But most of the time, we end up losing our entire balance. I usually love to play Mines and Dice with low payouts, but as we know, it's the dangerous payout. Too easy to get multiple reds in a row which can drain entire wallet.

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Today at 11:29:51 AM
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It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.
Well I will still say that skills also involved because in games there's is always experience, and experience is what turns out to be skills. In gaming there is always a knowledge behind it and If that knowledge is undermine or didn't follow up how it works it would also ends up losing big time even though we say is chance based game then we can't do away with the experience each players has from their regularly involvement in playing any of these games be it dice or slot, roulette or sports betting.

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Today at 01:49:22 PM
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It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved.
It depends on what type of game you are playing on, that's why there are usually two categories for gambling games such as luck-based and skill-based. Skill based games are the type of game where you can determine the outcome of the game like poker, whereas you may have a bad card but you can fold to limit loses or continue playing by tricking other player that have a good card and turn it into a win.
Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.
Luck-based games like dice are usually the type of games where you don't have control of the outcome as it's purely based on your luck but still it's fun if things are going into your favor and continue winning.

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Today at 02:04:27 PM
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Luck-based games like dice are usually the type of games where you don't have control of the outcome as it's purely based on your luck but still it's fun if things are going into your favor and continue winning.

When you think you are in control, or that the results you are getting in a game of chance like craps are due to what you are doing, you are not really in control at all. It happens not only in luck games, but also in games of skill, and not only in gambling. There are many sportsmen who make gestures thinking that they bring them luck. I guess we humans find it hard to detach ourselves from the belief in the supernatural.

If we make a rational and scientific analysis, there is no control.

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I have a friend that thinks that if he taps his phone in a certain way when he's playing aviator games the plane will continue to fly higher till he is ready to cash out, it makes no sense logically but due to how obsessed he is with gambling he doesn't know how stupid it is. You can't be in control over luck based games, you must realize that these games involve no skill or patterns everything is programmed in favour of the house, but whenever you get lucky don't get carried away thinking that you have something you do that makes you win, that's a delusional thought.

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Today at 04:39:27 PM
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There is no such thing as being in control, you can only apply calculations and strategies which doesn't work at the long run, there are no ways to control what has already being programmed. Most people think because they did something at a certain time that worked out in gambling believe that it's a pattern they can repeatedly do to make more profit. Gambling especially casinos is all about how lucky you are and meeting the right timing don't be deceived by irrational ideas that don't work, you must realize that this is real life and not a fiction.

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Today at 04:47:37 PM
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It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.

Its funny you know, how some gamblers think they can actually beat the algorithm used in programming gambling’s random results generation. They all still arrive at the same end which is regret to have not conceived the thought in the first place. I have friends who actually thought they can master pattern in aviator game after lossing for a while all in the name of mastering the algorithm, they still ending up losing more even after they thought they have known it all. Gambling isn’t just like every other random game, if it was that easy I believe many person would have amounted millionaires by just gambling. With the example you gave it’s clear to everyone how gambling operate, the dice is indeed the best explanation to how gambling works.
This is familiar about me. I had a comrade who for a long time and stubbornly tried to play the dice according to the Martingale system. It took a lot of time to understand that the system is good only at short distances and in general it was not viable. If this scheme would have been casino for a long time. If it worked, but not everyone wants to understand this.

To be honest, gambling  entirely depends on luck, so trying to study the algorithm is a waist of time. Because at the end it will all come to realization that the system cannot be learnt or studied. If you’re lucky it might seem as though you have cracked a code but it's all luck. And I believe  that's the major reason some persons go ahead to try to study the game by gambling more. As a gambler the best advice i can give is that, bettors should be contented with what ever the result turns out to be, and the easiest way to do that is by gambling with what you can afford to lose, usually  with small stakes.

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Today at 05:04:54 PM
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Maybe he is too confident that he can do the same thing on every roll of the dice, or on the game of Roulette Spin to get the right number or the planned win.
It's funny enough when someone can control it, even though it only depends on luck, because anyone who does a dice roll or a game that will be entirely based on luck will not be able to control their roll.

Getting a win at the beginning does not mean that you will continue to be lucky,
but there will be several series of advantages and disadvantages that will arise together.

Maybe someone who feels that they can control their luck, it is like the God of gambling that appears a lot in movies,
with the power of his mind, then the numbers will change as desired.

 
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