Cashback with wagering requirements and same bonus make sense?

[Slow death]

One lesson I learned very early on when I started gambling was that we always have to deposit money to play without counting on a bonus and we always have to look at the money we deposit as a lost amount, which is why I don't create an account at every casino I see. Even if the casino is offering a great sign-up bonus, I don't create an account at the casino. I prefer to continue using the casino that is in my signature and I use it because I like it. Now, what I have noticed is that many people like to chase casinos that offer great bonuses and sometimes they don't take the time to research whether the casino is honest or not and they don't read the casino's TOS about the bonus. Nowadays, it is difficult to see any casino offering a sign-up bonus that has wagering requirements that people can meet.

[Dewi Aries]

One lesson I learned very early on when I started gambling was that we always have to deposit money to play without counting on a bonus and we always have to look at the money we deposit as a lost amount, which is why I don't create an account at every casino I see. Even if the casino is offering a great sign-up bonus, I don't create an account at the casino. I prefer to continue using the casino that is in my signature and I use it because I like it. Now, what I have noticed is that many people like to chase casinos that offer great bonuses and sometimes they don't take the time to research whether the casino is honest or not and they don't read the casino's TOS about the bonus. Nowadays, it is difficult to see any casino offering a sign-up bonus that has wagering requirements that people can meet.

Yes that's right, I think it would be much better if everyone especially novice gamblers had a mindset like yours, but unfortunately as often happens that there are always some of them who are too easily tempted by everything that looks tempting without considering and thinking first about the various possibilities that could happen which in the end not infrequently they experience various unwanted things such as experiencing problems in withdrawals or deposits or even much worse.

Actually, regardless of anything, not all casinos that show tempting bonuses end up committing fraud, there are always some casinos that are good and provide good services such as providing real tempting bonuses for gamblers without being based on reasons that lead to fraud at the end of the story, and this is why gamblers should be wiser in choosing a casino, reputation is the first thing to consider.

[alani123]

10x wager requirement is a bit fishy.

Because usually the casinos will give you certain requirements on that also. For example say if you do it in sport bets they want odds are least 1.5 or something. So the chances to lose everything become very high because each wager you have at least 40% chances to lose it all. For instance, chances to win on 50% odds, to win 10 times in a row you have to do 0.5¹⁰... The odds are under 1 in a thousand! This is why deposit deals should be avoided.

[Webetcoins]

Exactly this is why it's very necessary to read the terms and conditions given by the casino, so as to know when to tackle such issues like this on time.

I salute those who at least give a hint about it in the bonus page but if there isn't any rule written, i don't take time going on the TOS anymore. It seems that I already know what to expect there.

But for me while using Casinos I think one should deposit an amount of money be it a small or big to carry on their process because having an available Cashback is just like a bait they set up to lure gamblers.

I'm having a hard time understanding it at first but after reading it a few times, I think what you are saying is we must ignore the bonuses offered but just play according to our goal if whether we are playing for fun or for the profit. That is a good advice actually. When I play I also have this mindset. I can only have an exception if I see a flash message which says a "completely free offer with no strings attached" is available or if there is a bonus that only has a "1x wager requirements".

It can only be rare though judging on how easy they are to get and it's going to be damaging to the side of the casino. If ever we are playing on a casino that has a cashback feature, this can only be an extra bonus to us and this should be the real definition of a bonus, since you can always get it no matter what.

Alot of casino sites don't really care about your thoughts but they are majorly concern about their benefits which includes some Cashback and bonuses

This must be true. It's only crazy that most of them have this "send a feedback" feature and users will also get rewarded if they like the feedback or suggestion. I filled up a lot of them but I haven't gotten any response or rewards. It would be better if they just removed this kind of feature because it is only useless.

[Fortify]

Recently, I avail a special promotion sent to my email by a casino that I will not mention the name.

They offer me a 30% bonus on my deposit and the only requirements is just x10 wager so I become interested to deposit. As the game progress I notice that my wager doesn’t count towards my bonus so I ask for the support about the error. They point out to me that the bonus will just take effect if my main balance will lose first.

So this bonus categorized as cashback not a deposit bonus and worst it has wagering requirements. It’s my fault to not read the bonus ToS first but the email is clearly a deposit bonus.

Just be aware and always read the ToS, casino nowadays are using this method to encourage user to deposit thinking that it will be just a regular deposit bonus. Always read the fine print.

I like how you say "only x10 wager" yet this is an incredibly high amount and way more than you would usually find on big offers. What sort of sum of money are we talking about here? I am often put off these sort of promotions if they even mention 2x wager requirement and wouldn't dream of taking one that required x10. It is a way for casinos/sportbooks to get people to advertise "we match 300% up to $5,000" type offers when in reality they know that the player will lose all of their money long before they ever get to cash anything out and would be lucky to walk away with $10 from the offer. Always read the terms thoroughly and make sure you know what you have to do, sometimes it's better to just ignore such offers entirely.

[alegotardo]

Recently, I avail a special promotion sent to my email by a casino that I will not mention the name.

They offer me a 30% bonus on my deposit and the only requirements is just x10 wager so I become interested to deposit. As the game progress I notice that my wager doesn’t count towards my bonus so I ask for the support about the error. They point out to me that the bonus will just take effect if my main balance will lose first.

So this bonus categorized as cashback not a deposit bonus and worst it has wagering requirements. It’s my fault to not read the bonus ToS first but the email is clearly a deposit bonus.

Just be aware and always read the ToS, casino nowadays are using this method to encourage user to deposit thinking that it will be just a regular deposit bonus. Always read the fine print.

It's your fault for not reading the ToS, I agree, but do you believe that the casino acted correctly in sending the advertisement to your email!?
How many people do you think actually read the ToS?

Regardless of what is written in the "fine print", I believe that every website needs to at least have "character" and act in a fair manner without the need to try to deceive its customers in order to increase its profits.

It's true that marketing is what drives business, but acting in bad faith and trying to take advantage of rules that are highlighted much less than the "email cover" is acting in bad faith.

I would certainly deposit my last money on this site and look for other options to have fun.

Trust and seriousness are essential nowadays, especially when we have several great options to bet on.

[milewilda]

Recently, I avail a special promotion sent to my email by a casino that I will not mention the name.

They offer me a 30% bonus on my deposit and the only requirements is just x10 wager so I become interested to deposit. As the game progress I notice that my wager doesn’t count towards my bonus so I ask for the support about the error. They point out to me that the bonus will just take effect if my main balance will lose first.

So this bonus categorized as cashback not a deposit bonus and worst it has wagering requirements. It’s my fault to not read the bonus ToS first but the email is clearly a deposit bonus.

Just be aware and always read the ToS, casino nowadays are using this method to encourage user to deposit thinking that it will be just a regular deposit bonus. Always read the fine print.

I like how you say "only x10 wager" yet this is an incredibly high amount and way more than you would usually find on big offers. What sort of sum of money are we talking about here? I am often put off these sort of promotions if they even mention 2x wager requirement and wouldn't dream of taking one that required x10. It is a way for casinos/sportbooks to get people to advertise "we match 300% up to $5,000" type offers when in reality they know that the player will lose all of their money long before they ever get to cash anything out and would be lucky to walk away with $10 from the offer. Always read the terms thoroughly and make sure you know what you have to do, sometimes it's better to just ignore such offers entirely.

x10 wager with a bonus is really that actually less in compared into those platforms who do really that making use of 20-35x rollover and if we do speak solely with deposit rollover on which this would really be sitting around on 2x the deposit on which its not that bad at all but with those other bonuses then its not really that actually shocking and they do have the full rights on how they should set up things. They wont really be running up a business that it wont turned out to be at their advantage on which it is really that understandable that they would be having the edge. This is why its really that very wrong that you would be assuming out that you could easily get out with those bonuses. Yes, it will be giving out that more bankroll that you do need but come to think that roll overs will really be fucking you up big time as you do go ahead. You will be finding out that those requirement would be pesky and will hinder you out on making up withdrawals in the end. lol. This is why on the moment that you will be having that worst experience with bonuses and its rollovers then you will definitely be aware on next time and you will really be ending up on avoiding it on next time. Usually newbies will really be that victimized on this one because they do really believe that this is something that could give out that advantage because you do have more but of course those are really that wrong perceptions and you will really be that able to make those realizations in the end of the line.

[Peanutswar]

I guess these are sort of marketing strategy which is part of their promotions that shows highlight only of the percentage not the totally terms of it so people get easily courage to play and deposit it seems that you already identified the event works. Still i consider that the deposit bonus is different from the cashback because in deposit bonus you will be credited upon deposit and then the cash back will be credited during the progress of the game lets say cashback = total deposit/wager requirement.

[AmoreJaz]

I guess these are sort of marketing strategy which is part of their promotions that shows highlight only of the percentage not the totally terms of it so people get easily courage to play and deposit it seems that you already identified the event works. Still i consider that the deposit bonus is different from the cashback because in deposit bonus you will be credited upon deposit and then the cash back will be credited during the progress of the game lets say cashback = total deposit/wager requirement.

Usually, cashback is different from the deposit bonus. That is true, you will only accumulate your cashback depending on how much you wagered for certain session/s. However, the percentage varies from one casino to another or if they are having this feature in their casino. Thus, need to check their features and don't expect that every casino has this perks.

Deposit bonuses and cashback are two different things but in essence both give gamblers bonuses but with different scenarios, and another thing of course reading ToS is an obligation for a gambler so that they avoid unnecessary mistakes, you have done it unknowingly but it's good that you realize that it is your own fault.

So maybe I can say that the unwanted thing happened because you were not careful in responding to the bonus so that you took the wrong action, every time I gamble I often find such bonus offers especially in some types of local online casinos in my country which even offer a 100% deposit bonus, it looks tempting because that way you can play longer and maybe with a large balance you will be a little closer to victory, but one of the reasons why I prefer to ignore it is because of the many requirements that seem unreasonable or impossible to pass, you should know that in the end the promotional scenario will only benefit the casino.

Every reward/perks offered by the casino has certain conditions to be met. So don't rush yourself depositing to the site because you have seen such promotional offer. Always check the terms attached to it, if you think it is achievable, then, why not? But if not, better let go such offer because more than likely, you will just lose all your bankroll before you complete the requirements for such reward.

[arjunmujay]

I guess these are sort of marketing strategy which is part of their promotions that shows highlight only of the percentage not the totally terms of it so people get easily courage to play and deposit it seems that you already identified the event works. Still i consider that the deposit bonus is different from the cashback because in deposit bonus you will be credited upon deposit and then the cash back will be credited during the progress of the game lets say cashback = total deposit/wager requirement.

you are right, marketing strategies are indeed diverse. and many are fooled by the promotion. therefore, it is important to first read the terms and conditions of the promotion being carried out.
the language used in the promotion is indeed very attractive, especially the issue of discounts and finances. I myself do it when promoting a product.
so my advice to OP, still read the terms and conditions first. don't immediately decide without reading in detail what is being promoted and how the promotion applies.

[len01]

Even until now I don't believe it and never take a deposit bonus or anything like that, (except for the bonus drops)
Since having a slightly bad experience in the past in a similar case, I always doubt the deposit bonus offered via email or other advertisements. Because for me it is indeed a way for casinos to attract the attention of gamblers and my mind always tries to think positively if it is impossible to get a bonus that easy.
Except as I said regarding the bonus drops (at my favorite casino) which makes more sense with the total wager requirements and we can easily get it.

And here I will not blame any party because maybe OP is tempted and only wants to try with a small amount to get experience and the casino does something like that because it is their way of promoting their casino.

[iv4n]

I guess these are sort of marketing strategy which is part of their promotions that shows highlight only of the percentage not the totally terms of it so people get easily courage to play and deposit it seems that you already identified the event works. Still i consider that the deposit bonus is different from the cashback because in deposit bonus you will be credited upon deposit and then the cash back will be credited during the progress of the game lets say cashback = total deposit/wager requirement.

You are right, deposit bonus and cashback are two different things. Cashback and rakeback are available in some casinos (in most of them), but if they come with a wagering requirement, then it's not very good. I came across this in Rocketpot, they have some system (daily, weekly, monthly) and that cashback is like an airdrop, when I click to accept (a few dollars) it comes with a wagering request, it's funny...

Well, some casinos are fair and have good conditions for all the benefits they offer, some have hidden pitfalls that can be very unpleasant. It's generally worth reading the ToS first, and who doesn't learn when they come across all that while playing on the site.

[Sarah Azhari]

Just be aware and always read the ToS, casino nowadays are using this method to encourage user to deposit thinking that it will be just a regular deposit bonus. Always read the fine print.

Casinos nowadays are use many ways to recruit many players to deposit, one other way is spamming via email with sweet promises. if the customers are negligent, and can not read properly what they get, they will be trapped. I've experienced with that, after deposit I can't get what their promised because I don't read properly their TOS. So, with this case, I suggest a new player to read properly their TOS, and sometimes I will make sure by asking it on contact support, and screenshot conversation.

[GxSTxV]

Recently, I avail a special promotion sent to my email by a casino that I will not mention the name.

They offer me a 30% bonus on my deposit and the only requirements is just x10 wager so I become interested to deposit. As the game progress I notice that my wager doesn’t count towards my bonus so I ask for the support about the error. They point out to me that the bonus will just take effect if my main balance will lose first.

So this bonus categorized as cashback not a deposit bonus and worst it has wagering requirements. It’s my fault to not read the bonus ToS first but the email is clearly a deposit bonus.

Just be aware and always read the ToS, casino nowadays are using this method to encourage user to deposit thinking that it will be just a regular deposit bonus. Always read the fine print.

Most of these misleading promotions tend to come from newer casinos and more unfortunately, is that sometimes even they scam you when you complete it. While a 30% cashback sounds so good, but it’s a red flag when something like that has wagering requirements.
It’s a bad deal to think that you are getting a deposit bonus only to find out that it’s actually not, but a cashback that only activates once your main balance is totally lost. This kind of tactics where they call it a deposit bonus in the email and then reveal more different and hidden terms in the terms, is a common way casinos try to get new deposits.

However, reading the ToS stays more important than ever these days. These types of bonuses can easily trip up players who expect 0 conditions. So, for the best you need to always double check the terms to avoid such surprises.

[sompitonov]

Just be aware and always read the ToS, casino nowadays are using this method to encourage user to deposit thinking that it will be just a regular deposit bonus. Always read the fine print.

Casinos nowadays are use many ways to recruit many players to deposit, one other way is spamming via email with sweet promises. if the customers are negligent, and can not read properly what they get, they will be trapped. I've experienced with that, after deposit I can't get what their promised because I don't read properly their TOS. So, with this case, I suggest a new player to read properly their TOS, and sometimes I will make sure by asking it on contact support, and screenshot conversation.

Before making a deposit, I study everything very carefully and it will also be a great action to ask the support of this casino everything in advance and clarify any little things that we do not understand, this is what they work for.

I think that many players are always in a hurry to make deposits to start playing quickly to win, but do not even read all the conditions. Sometimes I want to ask them why they decided that they will win even if they cannot do such simple actions. Probably because many players perceive that they will get easy money there and will not even have to understand anything, in vain they think so.

[Darker45]

Surely, this isn't unique to the casino you are referring to. I mean, that casinos only allow bonuses to be spent after you spent your main funds isn't surprising. But I wonder if the words in the terms are that straightforward-- "bonus will just take effect if my main balance will lose first."

Also, is it not possible to just comply with the wagering requirement of your main balance and then withdraw it, leaving only the bonus or perhaps a small amount in your wallet?

[traderethereum]

I guess these are sort of marketing strategy which is part of their promotions that shows highlight only of the percentage not the totally terms of it so people get easily courage to play and deposit it seems that you already identified the event works. Still i consider that the deposit bonus is different from the cashback because in deposit bonus you will be credited upon deposit and then the cash back will be credited during the progress of the game lets say cashback = total deposit/wager requirement.

you are right, marketing strategies are indeed diverse. and many are fooled by the promotion. therefore, it is important to first read the terms and conditions of the promotion being carried out.
the language used in the promotion is indeed very attractive, especially the issue of discounts and finances. I myself do it when promoting a product.
so my advice to OP, still read the terms and conditions first. don't immediately decide without reading in detail what is being promoted and how the promotion applies.

That is why if we get their promotion sent into our email, we must make sure what is the requirement so we don't misunderstanding and can know if we can fills the requirement or not. That is important because we must responsible to our money and not just take the promotion without think about the requirement.
The casino will use many marketing strategies so we should be wise which one we can take and which we should leave it. That can prevent us from wasting our money participate in the wrong promotions.
If we doubt with the promotion, we can ask to their support system so we can understand. We don't have to force to participate in all promotions they have if we thinks that is too difficult for us.

[SamReomo]

These gambling sites wants to entice their customers to make deposits, that is why they'll give them bonus promises, and the gambler will be excited to claim it, not knowing that there's a price before they can use the bonus. It's a lesson for us to always scrutinize anything that is a giveaway, whether it's favorable to us or not.

Very well said, yes the gamblers get enticed by the gambling platform's offers and in excitement they deposit huge amount of money in hope to earn free bonus by completing wagering requirements but they don't know that most casinos do that to trap new users and they can change their TOS without any notifications even within days. As far as I know, there's always a price to pay if someone wants to earn money from those free bonus and the ones who understand that will always avoid bonuses.

[Tipstar]

These initial deposit bonus or amount of wager based bonus works if your wagering amount is large or you are a heavy gambler. Almost all of gambling have a small house edge be it casinos or sportsbook. In multiple bets you win or loss would be just a small percentage of what you bet. Any bonus are better than nothing. And if you get a bonus more than that, it's beneficial one. Though these users would be hard to retain when the bonus period ends. That's why many casinos have regular bonuses of different kinds.

[the rise]

how cunning the casino is in deceiving its customers, indirectly they have reduced the reputation of their casino, we very often ignore the TOS that applies in each casino, but the casino uses it to deceive its customers