dragonslots & vave.com are the same casino

[the rise]

Dragonslots and Vave.com are controlled by the same person. After Vave.com committed fraud and racism against Russians, they opened a new casino called Dragonslots.

Shanz is a forum moderator with the Telegram username @HANZSA
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436037.0


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436037.msg61621088#msg61621088



Dragonslots is also with the same person.



That's why he didn't want to make our conversation public.

Now I know his real reason.

Be more careful with new casinos in the future. Maybe Dragonslot will die and grow again with a new name.

their alleged fraud https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464326.msg62758177#msg62758177

[the rise]

this is proof that he is the rightful owner




he can see user activity, so there is no more reason that he works there & blah blah blah

[DragonSlots]

Yesterday you shared around 30 posts and today again...you surprised me (this is why you can manage all your alts accounts at once)

Well! Do you understand what an NDA means for freelance managers? Do you know what it means to be a freelance representative for a determined time? As some members said... you are making a real drama and you won’t stop...

Well, I closed your first case thread when you said “SORRY” for trying to scam DragonSlots and take the prize with your multiple accounts. To be clear, I didn’t want to ruin your reputation because I thought you deserved a second chance. (And I didn't want to disturb the respectful members here)
There is no harm in working for different clients (NDA) as long as you respect the rules, conditions, you don't spam, you don't create fake conversations, you don't join contests/signature campaigns, and you don’t try to cheat or scam people the way you tried to do with me (you must read the rules here).

If DragonSlots, Y or X brand scammed you, feel free to open a case and express yourself...I can even show you how to open a ticket and assist you! We are here to represent brands as long as we don’t steal money — the way you are doing with your alts accounts.
Yesterday you were very rude with members here and you keep doing the same mistakes.
I don’t even know how you’re using your accounts to win contest prizes (to be honest, you almost got me, but I was lucky to discover this — thanks to the members here).

Now, you went to our official DragonSlots ANN thread and started posting unprofessionally, and until now, I haven’t replied in your official contest thread... because, simply, it’s not professional.

BTW, everything is still shared about your alts accounts used to scam your clients:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5550673.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5550765.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5550773.0
And finally the most important one:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5550673.msg65595540#msg65595540

Grow up, please!

[the rise]

Yesterday you shared around 30 posts and today again...you surprised me (this is why you can manage all your alts accounts at once)

Well! Do you understand what an NDA means for freelance managers? Do you know what it means to be a freelance representative for a determined time? As some members said... you are making a real drama and you won’t stop...

Well, I closed your first case thread when you said “SORRY” for trying to scam DragonSlots and take the prize with your multiple accounts. To be clear, I didn’t want to ruin your reputation because I thought you deserved a second chance. (And I didn't want to disturb the respectful members here)
There is no harm in working for different clients (NDA) as long as you respect the rules, conditions, and don’t try to cheat or scam people the way you tried to do with me (you must read the rules).

If DragonSlots, Y or X brand scammed you, feel free to open a case and express yourself...I can even show you how to open a ticket and assist you! We are here to represent brands as long as we don’t steal money — the way you are doing with your alts accounts.
Yesterday you were very rude with members here and you keep doing the same mistakes.
I don’t even know how you’re using your accounts to win contest prizes (to be honest, you almost got me, but I was lucky to discover this — thanks to the members here).

Now, you went to our official DragonSlots ANN thread and started posting unprofessionally, and until now, I haven’t replied in your official contest thread... because, simply, it’s not professional.

BTW, everything is still shared about your alts accounts used to scam your clients:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5550673.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5550765.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5550773.0
And finally the most important one:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5550673.msg65595540#msg65595540

Grow up, please!

Why are you running away from the topic?

And yes, I've already admitted that to all my accounts.

The problem now is, why are you covering up your old case?

[nutildah]

their alleged fraud https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464326.msg62758177#msg62758177

This was the outcome of the complaint:

Vave Casino Safety Index: Above average
...
Our verdict: Unjustified complaint
...
After further communication, the casino had presented evidence that the player had been notified of the restriction, leading to the eventual rejection of the complaint due to the lack of response from the player.
...
Due to the evidence from the casino and the lack of response from h4eeeeeeeee, we have decided to reject this case.

[yahoo62278]

Why are you running away from the topic?

And yes, I've already admitted that to all my accounts.

The problem now is, why are you covering up your old case?

I would have to look deeper into your claim but as long as there is no scam the company is allowed to rebrand. The fact that the thread has been active nearly 24 hours and barely any comments says to me that the community feels you are reaching here.

Your plan moving ahead shouldn't be the get vengeance against anyone you feel got you caught. You should maybe consider changing the way you operate and try to operate in a non shady manner from here on out. Grow as a person and don't look for a way to cheat to get ahead.

[LoyceV]

Your plan moving ahead shouldn't be the get vengeance against anyone you feel got you caught.

This is the fifth topic on this drama. OP is out for retaliation, and it's not even working.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Your plan moving ahead shouldn't be the get vengeance against anyone you feel got you caught.

This is the fifth topic on this drama. OP is out for retaliation, and it's not even working.

Apparently, he is now collecting negative tags. Every day and every new topic there are more of them.

[the rise]

It's up to you, but you need to investigate it

[Zwei]

It's up to you, but you need to investigate it

the burden of proof is on the accuser. you can't just drop an accusation with zero supporting evidence and tell everyone to do the "investigating" for you.
we are not here to help you with your dumb retaliation attempt, so fuck off will ya?

[Zoomic]

Your plan moving ahead shouldn't be the get vengeance against anyone you feel got you caught.

This is the fifth topic on this drama. OP is out for retaliation, and it's not even working.

This topic contains Op's most rugged weapon
He thought that when he releases it, DragonSlots account would be painted by the community. I think he is amazed at his failed retaliation attempt.
As advised by yahoo62278, if OP will learn and grow instead of seeking revenge, it will be nice for him.

[Stalker22]

Dragonslots and Vave.com are controlled by the same person. After Vave.com committed fraud and racism against Russians, they opened a new casino called Dragonslots.
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Man, if only you had come out with this information before the whole drama between you two played out. Your words would have hit so much harder, had so much more credibility.  now, Im just looking at this and thinking it screams "revenge."

Im not saying your evidence is bad, or that this info isnt potentially valuable for the community. But lets be blunt: you have been silent about this until now, and you even went as far as actively promoting the casino and running their campaigns yourself, supposedly knowing all about their "shady history." That tells me that protecting the wider community clearly wasnt your top priority until you had a problem.

[the rise]

It's up to you, I know this forum where someone with a bad reputation will not be respected, if I had a good reputation I'm sure the situation would change 100%

understand what I mean

meaning there are a lot of sycophants here

[nutildah]

It's up to you, I know this forum where someone with a bad reputation will not be respected, if I had a good reputation I'm sure the situation would change 100%

understand what I mean

meaning there are a lot of sycophants here

You mean people with good reputation are respected and people with bad reputation aren't??

Sounds like the trust system is working as intended...

[the rise]

It's going well, and they're getting rid of each other 😆

If you delve deeper into the Dragonslot & Vave.com casino issues, you'll laugh.