Some Random Thoughts on KYC and Non-KYC

[ethereumhunter]

I have seen some Telegram casinos that are truly non-KYC because KYC are not required to use them neither was it mentioned in their TOS as a requirement to use their platform or something that will required at some point of using the platform. Apart from these Telegram casinos, I have not seen other forms of casino that does not require KYC and even if I see one, I will not have much confidence that they do not ask for KYC when, I know they will ask should I have big winning. I prefer completing KYC before being able to deposit.

Maybe you can still playing gambling comfortably in Telegram without doing KYC but in the future, the casino can ask you to do KYC easily. It is a matter about time when the government will request the casino to do KYC for their members. You can ask to the gamblers who won big in that casino about doing KYC when they want to withdraw the money. Usually, casino will request them to do KYC before they continue the withdrawal process as they want to check everything before they send the money. So it is our concern to aware about that and prepare if that time comes.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Usually, casino will request them to do KYC before they continue the withdrawal process as they want to check everything before they send the money.

And that is the biggest mistake, a casino that requires KYC must do so at the time of Deportation and until the KYC is passed , no deposit can be made.


It is a fact that things are like this, but I think that in the future we will not be able to implement KYC as everything goes, because people do not like being followed, to see what they do and what they do not, currently technology has been in charge of providing more tools to be a little more anonymous, the younger generations already know how to put anonymity Protocols on their Actions on a PC , due to Online games or something they do so that they do not get Hacked and without shame learn about networks and security, that is something that is very useful, then they will not want to reveal their identity, that is something that is being Implemented for now , but I am sure that many will Skip those regulations.

[Samlucky O]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.
Thank you.

Casino that don't ask of kyc does not necessarily mean they are non kyc. I just think the casino just left it like that so that many people can sign-up easily because requesting kyc opon registration to some people may reduce their chances of registration and the casino  in turn lose some customers. So I believe what you said, I could be that they left it should incase they smell rats then they can request for it. Even if there are non kyc casino, it could only be few.

[Cityhunter34]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.
Thank you.

Casino that don't ask of kyc does not necessarily mean they are non kyc. I just think the casino just left it like that so that many people can sign-up easily because requesting kyc opon registration to some people may reduce their chances of registration and the casino  in turn lose some customers. So I believe what you said, I could be that they left it should incase they smell rats then they can request for it. Even if there are non kyc casino, it could only be few.

Well I think you're right. of course that is the real truth about it because any online casino that put KYC as mandatory in their platform would going to end up losing customers, while because there are alot of online casinos out their that is looking for customers to come and sign-up in their platform without any KYC. However, on like before almost all the online casinos used to put KYC as mandatory due to the fact that they were few then so wether you like it or not you most do their KYC.

[SmartGold01]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.
Thank you.

Casino that don't ask of kyc does not necessarily mean they are non kyc. I just think the casino just left it like that so that many people can sign-up easily because requesting kyc opon registration to some people may reduce their chances of registration and the casino  in turn lose some customers. So I believe what you said, I could be that they left it should incase they smell rats then they can request for it. Even if there are non kyc casino, it could only be few.

That is why it is a very important to always read terms of service before sign up casino since most of them are hidden in their terms and conditions, because even as they said they are none kyc casino as a gambler you should be prepared about casino requesting for your documents.
I think the reason why most casino request for kyc is for the safety of their site and also AML, and I don't think casino would entirely eliminate kyc from their sites.

[Sarah Azhari]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.
Thank you.

We must be wise person to respond to it.

When we prepare to gamble, we have to think immediately to send the KYC even the KYC is not required. We don't have to create assumption the casino is not required even they told they were 100% non KYC, because if something happens, as an example the government where they operate the casino change the Constitution, and obligate all member to required KYC, then the member should proof it. they will lose access, and of course will also lost they fund on that casino. So, we must be aware of the responsibility to maintaining our integrity on the casino.

[Alphakilo]

I think people just misinterpret that the inattentiveness from any casino on them yet about passing kyc to mean that the casino doesn't require it. But just win huge money or raise some suspicious financial behaviour, and see for yourself what their next line of action might be.

This is why we have many scam accusations from one casino user against their casinos when in fact they the users are the ones who are at fault. I usually read something like, this casino with held my winnings and are asking for KYC.

Casinos should make their terms of service the first thing users read either when they click on sign up or as soon as they sign up. It may have a little effect but still should help.

[Oluwa-btc]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat?
Thank you.

On this very thought I think there's absolutely no casino without  KYC requirements and if in cause of signing in,it wasn't mentioned then definitely when you want to make withdrawals and all that it'll actually pop out that KYC verification needed,so therefore there's actually a KYC casino and don't get it twisted or believe from anyone that it's not compulsory ,it's a necessity.The issue there is most casino are using some mischievous methods to lure users make use of the casino and at the end of it, you'll be told to do the verification.

[bias]

Usually, casino will request them to do KYC before they continue the withdrawal process as they want to check everything before they send the money.

And that is the biggest mistake, a casino that requires KYC must do so at the time of Deportation and until the KYC is passed , no deposit can be made.

This is the correct and clear way to conduct KYC/ AML procedures. Doing everything from the start makes the casino far more legitimate and transparent to its possible clients.
Casinos that require verifications after accepting a deposit without asking for anything or making big sign-up offers but don't write the full terms from the beginning are not among my favorites. It seems designed to trap you into putting your money in (this is always in the casino's interest) and being unable to withdraw it. Why would a casino do this and be considered tricky or sketchy?
As for anonymity, unfortunately for us who loved it, the days when we didn't need to do any kind of verification were long gone.

[ethereumhunter]

And that is the biggest mistake, a casino that requires KYC must do so at the time of Deportation and until the KYC is passed , no deposit can be made.

It is a fact that things are like this, but I think that in the future we will not be able to implement KYC as everything goes, because people do not like being followed, to see what they do and what they do not, currently technology has been in charge of providing more tools to be a little more anonymous, the younger generations already know how to put anonymity Protocols on their Actions on a PC , due to Online games or something they do so that they do not get Hacked and without shame learn about networks and security, that is something that is very useful, then they will not want to reveal their identity, that is something that is being Implemented for now , but I am sure that many will Skip those regulations.

But they can not deny the request of KYC from the casino or other websites especially if they are use that site very often. KYC now becomes a primary things on the sites to prevents the illegal things that their members can do.

And even if they knows how to put anonymity, they will difficult to skip the KYC because that will be one of the requirement that the sites apply. They can use the casino or other sites that doesn't requires KYC but they must be careful to pick the sites and play the games on that site. Maybe they will still find the casino that doesn't require KYC but in the future, that will difficult to avoids.

[LUCKMCFLY]

This is the correct and clear way to conduct KYC/ AML procedures. Doing everything from the start makes the casino far more legitimate and transparent to its possible clients.
Casinos that require verifications after accepting a deposit without asking for anything or making big sign-up offers but don't write the full terms from the beginning are not among my favorites. It seems designed to trap you into putting your money in (this is always in the casino's interest) and being unable to withdraw it. Why would a casino do this and be considered tricky or sketchy?
As for anonymity, unfortunately for us who loved it, the days when we didn't need to do any kind of verification were long gone.

That's right, now we as good players rely on confining the KYC only to the most reliable and reputable casinos and although not everything is safe, a casino that is quite safe and reputable gives us the greatest peace of mind if we play there, what you say is very true, the anonymity is what we must take care of but not in casinos, but in our finances, those who have btc, crypto should not make the mistake of declaring them under any circumstances, because the government would already have a whole list of what we have and what we don't have, so it's not good, and if they realize that we play in a crypto casino the taxes must be huge.

[Mahanton]

This is the correct and clear way to conduct KYC/ AML procedures. Doing everything from the start makes the casino far more legitimate and transparent to its possible clients.
Casinos that require verifications after accepting a deposit without asking for anything or making big sign-up offers but don't write the full terms from the beginning are not among my favorites. It seems designed to trap you into putting your money in (this is always in the casino's interest) and being unable to withdraw it. Why would a casino do this and be considered tricky or sketchy?
As for anonymity, unfortunately for us who loved it, the days when we didn't need to do any kind of verification were long gone.

That's right, now we as good players rely on confining the KYC only to the most reliable and reputable casinos and although not everything is safe, a casino that is quite safe and reputable gives us the greatest peace of mind if we play there, what you say is very true, the anonymity is what we must take care of but not in casinos, but in our finances, those who have btc, crypto should not make the mistake of declaring them under any circumstances, because the government would already have a whole list of what we have and what we don't have, so it's not good, and if they realize that we play in a crypto casino the taxes must be huge.

Once you do give your information into any platform or services out there then there's no assurance that it will really be that totally safe and despite on having those kind of claims that those informations are safe and secured but still it will really be that better that you should be not minding that much or get prepared with those possible leaks because we dont actually know on what are the things that they would gonna do
with those accumulated information into their users. Talking about KYC then this is something not really that shocking nowadays on which we know that regulation and laws are really that becoming strict even to those
crypto casino whom we do thought that they cant be able to touch with legal aspects but look at on where we are now? Those KYC-less casinos had become that making that switch up and now asking for some verification
on which kinda sucks because here on crypto space, we do highly despise on having that kyc and much prefer on playing anonymous but well there's nothing we can do. They are indeed businesses and since this do talks that huge inflow and outflow of funds on where it isnt something that government would really be allowing for them just to operate without having those regulations since this one talks about having that huge revenue or money flowing into them. So its not shocking that they will really be sooner or later will be regulated and here it comes or it did really actually happen. Therefore as a user then it will really be that up to you whether you would be continuing on playing on the same platform and trusting them up and comply kyc or you would really be trying out to find another places which doent really require it? It will really be that up to you.

[Jegileman]

Any casino that said they can ask for KYC verification document is a KYC casino and not none KYC; anyone regarding it as NONKYC casino is just deceiving himself or herself.
 
I don't even think if there is any popular NONKYC casino that's active, even the web 3 casinos that come out with being non-kyc; most of them are already demanding KYC when necessary.

Asking for KYC to make their services better and to know the type of customers they’re dealing with especially when they perceive a fowl play from such customer. Non-KYC casinos are not common and that could be the reason why they don’t last long or become active for a very long time. It’s very hard for them to deal with anonymous people without posing some threat to their services that they render. Asking for KYC should not be a problem to customers when their intentions are pure with the casinos. Then again, it’s now left for the casinos to hold on and never disclose the information of their customers to anyone except if deem necessary in some circumstance.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Once you do give your information into any platform or services out there then there's no assurance that it will really be that totally safe and despite on having those kind of claims that those informations are safe and secured but still it will really be that better that you should be not minding that much or get prepared with those possible leaks because we dont actually know on what are the things that they would gonna do
with those accumulated information into their users. Talking about KYC then this is something not really that shocking nowadays on which we know that regulation and laws are really that becoming strict even to those
crypto casino whom we do thought that they cant be able to touch with legal aspects but look at on where we are now? Those KYC-less casinos had become that making that switch up and now asking for some verification
on which kinda sucks because here on crypto space, we do highly despise on having that kyc and much prefer on playing anonymous but well there's nothing we can do. They are indeed businesses and since this do talks that huge inflow and outflow of funds on where it isnt something that government would really be allowing for them just to operate without having those regulations since this one talks about having that huge revenue or money flowing into them. So its not shocking that they will really be sooner or later will be regulated and here it comes or it did really actually happen. Therefore as a user then it will really be that up to you whether you would be continuing on playing on the same platform and trusting them up and comply kyc or you would really be trying out to find another places which doent really require it? It will really be that up to you.

You are right, what can be done is to avoid all that KYC treatment in each casino, I stick only to complying with it in Casinos that I consider a little safer, with criteria such as having more longevity, their good reputation and that they always maintain high marketing, one of the things we have as an advantage is to have the threads in the forum always present, because it is a constant update of the events, some only conform with social networks , but here with the photo we have many advantages, but in itself we are the ones with the last decision, at this moment any casino must comply with KYC, but it is up to us to comply with it until we feel somewhat comfortable, be it at level 1, level 2, the question is that you can withdraw money calmly in case you manage to win.

[Stablexcoin]

Any casino that said they can ask for KYC verification document is a KYC casino and not none KYC; anyone regarding it as NONKYC casino is just deceiving himself or herself.
 
I don't even think if there is any popular NONKYC casino that's active, even the web 3 casinos that come out with being non-kyc; most of them are already demanding KYC when necessary.

Its difficulty for casinos that claim that they re non-KYC casinos to avoid KYC. Even if they try to pull the concept for a period of time they cant hold it for long. Especially the web 3 casino in fact most of them give up in the end.

Knowing full well that is hard to regulate and manage individual activities in a casino where there are thousand of users even with KYC then talk more about a non-KYC casino and how hard it will be for them.

[STT]

KYC on large volume seems to be the summary of my own personal experience.    Its not too dissimilar to what happens with banking, the famous 10k limit on banks often mentioned in movies that kind of thing.     I dont see why people messing about with small bets is any concern but also they want to track laundering funds where large amounts can be used for that purpose and I suppose that makes sense.

By far plain Dollars and FIAT cash is the main transport for the criminal fraternity I guess but people have this idea that online is a great danger because of its speed and distance I guess.   Most of us are caught in the cross fire unfairly.

[Vaculin]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat?
Thank you.

On this very thought I think there's absolutely no casino without  KYC requirements and if in cause of signing in,it wasn't mentioned then definitely when you want to make withdrawals and all that it'll actually pop out that KYC verification needed,so therefore there's actually a KYC casino and don't get it twisted or believe from anyone that it's not compulsory ,it's a necessity.The issue there is most casino are using some mischievous methods to lure users make use of the casino and at the end of it, you'll be told to do the verification.

That is also their kind of strategy to attract a lot of players, as if KYC don’t exist, but when it’s time for withdrawal, especially a massive amount, then KYC becomes a necessity. And players have no other choice but to comply, or else there will be no withdrawal at all.

But I doubt if there are actually real casinos that clearly state NO KYC, or it’s just our own anticipation that this casino is not KYC mandatory.

[Agbamoni]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.
Thank you.

Casino that don't ask of kyc does not necessarily mean they are non kyc. I just think the casino just left it like that so that many people can sign-up easily because requesting kyc opon registration to some people may reduce their chances of registration and the casino  in turn lose some customers. So I believe what you said, I could be that they left it should incase they smell rats then they can request for it. Even if there are non kyc casino, it could only be few.

Any casino like this will not have a good reputation. My dear transparency is one thing in an online casino. If KYC is required, it should be made clear from the start so that the user will know if a user would love to continue with the sign-up process. Not when a user has sign up and deposited in the casino. Perhaps played a few games and won. Then they won't allow him to withdraw his money.

When i did a review on the MokeyTilt casino platform, this was the first thing i checked. Most times these casinos hide the KYC procedure in their Tos then after a gambler files a complaint to their support, they would refer him to the Tos which he skipped. This is why reading through the Tos at least a glance is very important. Because these days casinos are formed of hiding everything there so that they won't accept your withdrawal when you win big.

[viljy]

When playing in casinos that do not require KYC, you should always treat this issue as if you assume that KYC is required. Then, if the casino has any questions for you, it will not be a surprise. Because in any case, in questionable situations, any casino may require identification. Another question is why this is happening. But this is a separate extensive question, not exactly according to the profile of this thread.

[satscraper]

Then, if the casino has any questions for you, it will not be a surprise.

They may be forced by 3rd parties  ^{for instance some government surveillance agencies} to question you and dox your identity. Thus, I always suspicious about such questioning and immediately leave such casino at any KYC attempt ^{noticed by me} from their part. No-KYC casino preserve my freedom while those ones that requires KYC may result in the use of my personal data for the illicit activity.