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November 23, 2025, 03:37:59 AM
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I am not even anti-goverrnment since the government is supposed to be acting in the public interest, yet we see so many times that it abuses its authority.. so maybe we can hope that there might be ways that bitcoin helps governments to be more responsible and more responsive, yet I doubt that it is automatic, even though bitcoin seems to be forcing their hand in regards to the money printing angle..


It can be heartbroken to see how absolute power intoxicates, the core value of every government should be the interest of the masses, personally I don't seen to be ani- government either but we got their point of aggressiveness which is not having the absolute power to pivots and control everything that goes around Bitcoin and of course they will not stop but will keep trying because that's not really going to be easy but the good news is that government will come and goes but will remains while another government takes over, there is still hope that some day a government that will embrace Bitcoin in the likelihood of the general interest will emerge.

 
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I am not even anti-goverrnment since the government is supposed to be acting in the public interest, yet we see so many times that it abuses its authority.. so maybe we can hope that there might be ways that bitcoin helps governments to be more responsible and more responsive, yet I doubt that it is automatic, even though bitcoin seems to be forcing their hand in regards to the money printing angle..


It can be heartbroken to see how absolute power intoxicates, the core value of every government should be the interest of the masses, personally I don't seen to be ani- government either but we got their point of aggressiveness which is not having the absolute power to pivots and control everything that goes around Bitcoin and of course they will not stop but will keep trying because that's not really going to be easy but the good news is that government will come and goes but will remains while another government takes over, there is still hope that some day a government that will embrace Bitcoin in the likelihood of the general interest will emerge.
It is true that one day governments will understand that Bitcoin adoption is not a loss of power, but an opportunity to restore transparency and public trust. However, governments have to accept Bitcoin, this is not a feature of Bitcoin. Bitcoin does not need a political victory. It is enough to just continue as usual. And everyone benefits from Bitcoin, which is a big thing. Governments have also understood that they cannot stop Bitcoin in any way. Perhaps the most they can do is slow down the pace of change. Even if Bitcoin is banned, it comes in various reports. On various social media, discussions here in forums, it seems to me, make Bitcoin more popular. And we do not need to think about these things. Perhaps many governments have already understood that those who accept Bitcoin first will be ahead in development, capital innovation and talent. And those who try to suppress it will themselves be left behind.
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November 24, 2025, 08:27:47 AM
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New Zealand will include Bitcoin in their national curriculum textbooks.
If a country like New Zealand introduces an education policy on Bitcoin in textbooks, then New Zealand will definitely be holding Bitcoin in their strategic reserves in the future.
Source: https://x.com/saylordocs/status/1992868788656807996?t=tP2iJE3kVtI_H5MJaFV4cA&s=19
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November 24, 2025, 08:56:55 AM
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New Zealand will include Bitcoin in their national curriculum textbooks.
If a country like New Zealand introduces an education policy on Bitcoin in textbooks, then New Zealand will definitely be holding Bitcoin in their strategic reserves in the future.
Source: https://x.com/saylordocs/status/1992868788656807996?t=tP2iJE3kVtI_H5MJaFV4cA&s=19

This is not part of Bitcoin reserve development, but rather this is different situation done by New Zealand authorities. Still I find this good action done by their government since adding Bitcoin curriculum on their educational system will be a game changer for traditional things known by their students.
 
Although for now New Zealand government didn't have Bitcoin Strategic, for adding this Bitcoin learnings this is one of few steps that in future they might consider to add Bitcoin especially if they are ready and knowledgeable on how everything works.

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November 24, 2025, 11:42:59 AM
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New Zealand will include Bitcoin in their national curriculum textbooks.
If a country like New Zealand introduces an education policy on Bitcoin in textbooks, then New Zealand will definitely be holding Bitcoin in their strategic reserves in the future.
Source: https://x.com/saylordocs/status/1992868788656807996?t=tP2iJE3kVtI_H5MJaFV4cA&s=19
This is undoubtedly a revolution for Bitcoin as countries around the world are giving importance to Bitcoin, especially New Zealand, which will be the second country to include Bitcoin in educational programs after El Salvador. However, whether or not to prioritize Bitcoin as a strategic reserve is a matter for the New Zealand bank and government, but if there is such interest in Bitcoin, New Zealand will definitely keep Bitcoin in their strategic reserves in the future.
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I would like to add that governments usually oppose new technologies until the economic benefits become too great to ignore. The same thing has happened with the internet, mobile technology, encryption. At first they tried to ban, regulate or intimidate, then they were forced to accept it themselves. Bitcoin is following the same path.
The countries that openly oppose Bitcoin are the ones who are sitting back and making policies, testing the possibilities of mining or custody. This means that the fight is practically over not because the government has lost, but because the economic reality is so strong that it cannot be denied. Mathematics, decentralization or global consensus cannot be banned.
You also said that bans or negative reports make Bitcoin more popular, which is also absolutely true. Any country that wants to suppress Bitcoin, the discussion increases.
Understanding of Bitcoin in developing countries where corruption is at his best never been going to easy because they are scaring from this and also trying to create chaos which will bring challenges for bitcoin community in these countries I am giving example India which is currently no 1 in adoption and Pakistan which is no 3 their governments are trying to ban and also bringing strict rules to create problems for crypto users.
China is already done which mean things will be taken time and if we have good development then surely It's going to be huge development which will increase stability and also have good rise for Bitcoin price developed countries already done enough with now bringing this into their education system is also good because they are always going ahead of time which help them and their peoples for understanding of technology and things which are always helpful.
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November 24, 2025, 12:36:53 PM
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I am not even anti-goverrnment since the government is supposed to be acting in the public interest, yet we see so many times that it abuses its authority.. so maybe we can hope that there might be ways that bitcoin helps governments to be more responsible and more responsive, yet I doubt that it is automatic, even though bitcoin seems to be forcing their hand in regards to the money printing angle..


It can be heartbroken to see how absolute power intoxicates, the core value of every government should be the interest of the masses, personally I don't seen to be ani- government either but we got their point of aggressiveness which is not having the absolute power to pivots and control everything that goes around Bitcoin and of course they will not stop but will keep trying because that's not really going to be easy but the good news is that government will come and goes but will remains while another government takes over, there is still hope that some day a government that will embrace Bitcoin in the likelihood of the general interest will emerge.
It is true that one day governments will understand that Bitcoin adoption is not a loss of power, but an opportunity to restore transparency and public trust. However, governments have to accept Bitcoin, this is not a feature of Bitcoin. Bitcoin does not need a political victory. It is enough to just continue as usual. And everyone benefits from Bitcoin, which is a big thing. Governments have also understood that they cannot stop Bitcoin in any way. Perhaps the most they can do is slow down the pace of change. Even if Bitcoin is banned, it comes in various reports. On various social media, discussions here in forums, it seems to me, make Bitcoin more popular. And we do not need to think about these things. Perhaps many governments have already understood that those who accept Bitcoin first will be ahead in development, capital innovation and talent. And those who try to suppress it will themselves be left behind.

Surely they will understand that but it is going to take them a long period of time and chasing or fighting Bitcoin to gain power or control over it will be an absolute waste of time and energy because I don't see any chance of it happening and time is coming when they will be one to make Bitcoin spread I mean create an awareness all over the global by using it as a strategic reserve and you should agree with me that the reason why some people has given in to accumulate Bitcoin with some level of pressure is because of the news that some countries and institutions are also purchasing.

 
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November 25, 2025, 09:30:46 AM
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Interesting development on how to accrue a Bitcoin Strategic Reserve in a cash neutral way (sort of)

Congressman Warren Davidson Introduces Bitcoin For America Act, Proposes Federal Tax Free Payments in Bitcoin

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Rep. Warren Davidson (R-OH) introduced today the Bitcoin For America Act in the U.S. House of Representatives, a landmark proposal designed to modernize the U.S. financial system and position the nation at the forefront of the global digital asset economy.

The bill would allow Americans to pay federal taxes in bitcoin, with all proceeds deposited into a newly created Strategic Bitcoin Reserve (SBR).

I really can't see how they can acquire a significant amount of Bitcoin with this measure. Last thing I would like to do on Earth, albeit this is not 100% rational, is paying taxes with bitcoins.

Your doubts are valid and rational, considering that many people view Bitcoin as a speculative asset, not a tax-paying currency. Furthermore, there are risks associated with value manipulation. For example, if the price of Bitcoin rises after you pay taxes, you'll likely lose potential profits. Most importantly, there's the issue of technical complexity. Not everyone is comfortable using wallets, private keys, or understanding volatility, which can lead to low adoption.

I see the primary goal of this policy not as a large amount of BTC, but as a long-term strategic interest for the state, as they don't need large amounts of Bitcoin to finance taxes. The important thing is to establish a formal mechanism for the state to hold BTC reserves, much like a central bank has gold reserves. In other words, it's not about accumulating quickly, but rather a way to normalize the use of BTC within the state system. The US doesn't expect everyone to pay taxes with BTC. Even if only 1% of citizens pay taxes using BTC, it still goes into the state's BTC reserves, acquired without having to purchase on the open market, meaning the government is adding BTC without spending cash (cash-neutral). So, it's not about large amounts, but about a cheap and legal way to enter.

The strategic function of this policy is to signal globally that the US is serious about the digital economy. Allowing taxes in BTC indicates the US's desire to lead the Bitcoin ecosystem. The US is ready to make BTC part of the country's reserves, like gold, and to attract investors and strengthen the US's position in the global digital economy. This policy also takes into account the reluctance of many people to pay taxes with BTC, preferring to hold it. Therefore, those who pay taxes with BTC are usually corporations, exchanges, large institutions, or individuals with significant profits.


This is what governments usually do: “screw things up”.
Bitcoin is not for governments, so when they attempt to seize bitcoin, the results will likely be negligible or even detrimental to adoption.


The state, with all its manipulation, is indeed the most difficult institution to trust. However, I think we need to clarify one thing first. The criticism that the government always sabotages itself is true in many cases, but that doesn't automatically mean that all new policies, including the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve (SBR) scheme, are doomed to failure.
Bitcoin isn't the key; fiscal behavior is. In my opinion, even though Bitcoin doesn't require the government, the government still has an incentive to use Bitcoin because the country still needs a hedge against soaring debt by diversifying its reserves so it doesn't rely on dollars, gold, or bonds. Even though BTC isn't for the government, that doesn't necessarily negate the government's interest in utilizing it.

The SBR mechanism actually prevents the government from tampering with BTC because BTC reserves cannot be printed at will, are auditable on-chain, and are not easily politicized. If the government commits fraud or mismanagement, BTC cannot be added. This is a natural limitation that actually prevents bureaucratic god complexes. In reality, many governments have failed to curb inflation, currency depreciation, and budgetary lapses. This has led many to consider BTC as a reserve currency, as they need a plan B amidst a national debt that has surpassed USD 35 trillion, rising bond yields, increasing debt costs, and increasingly fragmented geopolitics. If governments mismanage BTC reserves, it will only harm them, not the Bitcoin ecosystem as a whole. So, the risk is that governments fail to capitalize on opportunities, but Bitcoin is never broken.


You are absolutely correct, I don't think it is easy for the government to seize Bitcoin because if it was by now I believe they would have done it already because they like been at the Apex of everything that is in the society. And I don't also think they like the fact that some folks are accumulating Bitcoin to a high extreme but there is nothing they can do to help it because Bitcoin is decentralized and they don't have power to control how it works though they can influence it somehow but their power is limited.

While Bitcoin cannot be confiscated by force (technically), governments don't need to control the code to influence its ecosystem. They control the infrastructure, taxes, regulations, and crypto-fiat gateways, and that's enough to give them a dominant position. So the narrative that states are powerless is actually naive.

Governments don't need to confiscate Bitcoin to have influence; they control access and infrastructure, not the network. They can influence the Bitcoin ecosystem through transaction taxes, exchange regulations, and control over crypto-fiat gateways. Even if the government doesn't control the protocol, it still controls the economic gateways.

Much of the real-world Bitcoin remains on exchanges (centralized exchanges, large custodians, state-licensed brokers) rather than hardware wallets, meaning the vast majority of the Bitcoin supply remains in areas that governments can regulate, even without touching the Bitcoin protocol. States don't need to control Bitcoin to utilize it; they simply acquire Bitcoin legally, not confiscate it. Bitcoin is too volatile to control, so states choose to adapt.

Bitcoin cannot be fully controlled—but that doesn't mean governments are powerless. Rather, governments can't control Bitcoin absolutely, but they can control its economic environment, thus retaining significant leverage.

 
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New Zealand will include Bitcoin in their national curriculum textbooks.
If a country like New Zealand introduces an education policy on Bitcoin in textbooks, then New Zealand will definitely be holding Bitcoin in their strategic reserves in the future.
Source: https://x.com/saylordocs/status/1992868788656807996?t=tP2iJE3kVtI_H5MJaFV4cA&s=19
This is undoubtedly a revolution for Bitcoin as countries around the world are giving importance to Bitcoin, especially New Zealand, which will be the second country to include Bitcoin in educational programs after El Salvador. However, whether or not to prioritize Bitcoin as a strategic reserve is a matter for the New Zealand bank and government, but if there is such interest in Bitcoin, New Zealand will definitely keep Bitcoin in their strategic reserves in the future.

Well they provably projected well that there are great adoption will came unto Bitcoin that's why as early as now they are preparing their people to learn more about Bitcoin.

This is really a good step made by their government and we could see on the action they made that they are being adaptive and provably that there would be more great actions will happen to support Bitcoin also for their country will not get left behind on the great innovations happened.  El Salvador really set a good tune towards this kind of adoption and there would be more countries would add this learnings in their country and also more global Bitcoin Strategic Reserve announcement will came in future.

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November 25, 2025, 04:19:38 PM
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Luxembourg's Finance Minister has announced that his country will invest one percent of its sovereign wealth fund in Bitcoin. He also mentioned that if his country takes such groundbreaking steps, other countries will follow suit.
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Texas Bitcoin Buy


Texas has bought Bitcoin dip in the current Bitcoin market, buying $10 million worth of Bitcoin and holding it for a long time. Texas will be ready to hold their holdings for a longer period of time, because Bitcoin is currently in a dip market and this is the best time to buy Bitcoin.

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Texas has bought Bitcoin dip in the current Bitcoin market, <...>

Texas apparently has bought 0 bitcoin.
Texas allocated 10 million to buy Bitcoin and, in reality, bought 5 million of IBIT.

Texas reportedly kicks off state bitcoin reserve with $5 million IBIT purchase: 'More wild stuff'


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  • A $10 million budget allocation for bitcoin was approved under SB 21, with the reported $5 million trade representing the reserve’s first step toward deploying those funds.
  • The bitcoin fund would join just two other traditional holdings under the state’s trust, including nearly $700 million in SPY.


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November 26, 2025, 09:23:03 AM
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Texas Bitcoin Buy


Texas has bought Bitcoin dip in the current Bitcoin market, buying $10 million worth of Bitcoin and holding it for a long time. Texas will be ready to hold their holdings for a longer period of time, because Bitcoin is currently in a dip market and this is the best time to buy Bitcoin.
Looking at Texas' recent $10 million Bitcoin purchase, it seems like they are clearly taking a long-term view. However, even though the market is currently in a downturn, they are also seeing it as an opportunity. This is the mindset of a strong investor. The price is low, the risk is low, and the future potential is high. So their decision to hold on to their holdings for a longer period of time seems logical.
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Texas apparently has bought 0 bitcoin.
Texas allocated 10 million to buy Bitcoin and, in reality, bought 5 million of IBIT.

So technically, Texas has only acquired Bitcoin exposure, not yet purchased Bitcoin on-chain directly into the State Reserve. However, from a macroeconomic strategy perspective, this is still a very significant step. Small institutions or regions (states/cities) are more agile than the central government. This step could be used as a small experiment that could later become a model for larger-scale policy (gradual adoption).

I see this as the safest entry point politically and legally. By purchasing IBIT, Texas gains price exposure without custodial issues, without operational risk, without the noise of FED and SEC concerns (low friction, low resistance before entering on-chain).

Do you agree with me if I say that Texas is legitimizing Bitcoin as a state-level reserve asset? Even though direct purchases haven't occurred yet. This is because Texas has declared Bitcoin a strategic reserve, allocated a dedicated budget, taken action by making initial purchases through IBIT, and created a regulatory framework for future physical Bitcoin storage.

I see the Texas scenario as similar to:
- MicroStrategy (derivative ETFs then on-chain BTC),
- BlackRock (futures ETFs to spot ETFs then custody),
- El Salvador (third-party custodians to sovereign custody cold storage).

The pattern is:
  • Step 1: Buy exposure (ETF/trust)
  • Step 2: Build a legal framework and state custodian
  • Step 3: Buy Bitcoin directly into state-owned cold storage

Texas is just about to complete its first leap.

Texas move is significant for the new monetary paradigm, given that Texas is the most economically powerful state, the most pro-energy, the center of Bitcoin mining, and the most pro-financial independence from Washington. Entering Bitcoin (albeit via IBIT first) is a natural evolution of the idea of ​​on-chain gold, digital hard money.

 
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Texas apparently has bought 0 bitcoin.
Texas allocated 10 million to buy Bitcoin and, in reality, bought 5 million of IBIT.

So technically, Texas has only acquired Bitcoin exposure, not yet purchased Bitcoin on-chain directly into the State Reserve. However, from a macroeconomic strategy perspective, this is still a very significant step.

I see it as positive too. And I wouldn't be surprised if many of the states that start buying will do so through these products, like ETFs.  They have the advantage that there is a separation between the company that holds the assets and the company selling the product. I was under the impression that throughout history there has never been a problem with funds or ETFs that have this separation between the marketing company and the custodian. Just in case I have asked Copilot and says the same. It's one thing to have Bitcoins seized. But if a state buys regularly, I think the option of doing so via ETF is acceptable.

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Do you agree with me that Texas is legitimizing Bitcoin as a state-level reserve asset? Even though direct purchases haven't occurred yet. This is because Texas has declared Bitcoin a strategic reserve, allocated a dedicated budget, taken action by making initial purchases through IBIT, and created a regulatory framework for future physical Bitcoin storage.


Your analysis is pretty much correct, and I agree with 100% of it.
My little comment above was delusional toward the news outlet above, which reported the news in a clickbait manner.
I must say, however, that I see a huge difference between holding Bitcoin and holding IBIT. If you buy IBIT, you are exposed to the least relevant feature of Bitcoin, the price, which, coincidentally, is the least interesting for a Strategic reserve.

So I cannot agree 100% on the above. If Bitcoin were to be accepted as a reserve asset, would it be a physical purchase, as central banks do not rely on certificates to buy Gold but want the real thing?
Also, it is worrisome that in the US buying Bitcoin is treated as buying IBIT: those are two really distinct assets, or even asset classes!
 

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Bolivia to integrate Bitcoin and crypto into its financial system, starting with stablecoins



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I guess Spain has a problem with crypto!

Spain has proposed a steep 47% Crypto Tax!!!

Spain's Sumar party proposed a 47% crypto tax rate. It also suggested classifying all digital assets as seizable, indicating potential regulatory changes.
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I guess Spain has a problem with crypto!

Spain has proposed a steep 47% Crypto Tax!!!

Spain's Sumar party proposed a 47% crypto tax rate. It also suggested classifying all digital assets as seizable, indicating potential regulatory changes.

Italy proposed a similar 42% tax for next year, only to be deemed unconstitutional as it differentiated amongst firm of investment.
I guess Spain will go down the same path.
42% tax is an incentive to trading offshore, so a net loss for public finances.

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I guess Spain has a problem with crypto!

Spain has proposed a steep 47% Crypto Tax!!!

Spain's Sumar party proposed a 47% crypto tax rate. It also suggested classifying all digital assets as seizable, indicating potential regulatory changes.
I have seen that Europeans have been indifferent to crypto currencies in the past. Especially those involved in state administration [although decentralized economies are not supported by the state because they are not controlled by the state]. I think that due to these high taxes, Bitcoin and crypto holders will not come out in the open. Those who truly believe in crypto will continue to accumulate their assets secretly as before. I do not think this will cause any major problems for crypto holders. However, realizing the reality, Europeans should be flexible towards cryptocurrencies including Bitcoin.

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