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Sooner or later all this bull pressure will make the market explode. I think most of these fillings are deals reached in OTC markets and it's not translating into the price, plus there is still a decent amount of whales and people that are up a lot getting out, so once they have all sold their BTC to institutions the price will skyrocket as exchanges are dried up.
Btw, the company Bit Digital (BTBT) recently went 100% ETH strategy, the stock crashed and it's probably undervalued to their holdings now.
We can see that companies can be as retarded as individuals to believe that it is a good idea to invest into a shitcoin such as ETH and to act as if such shitcoin has any reason to be valuable or even a good idea to hold any of it.. Well we have Blackstone and JPMorgan using ETH to tokenize some of their assets. JPM is using Base for their stablecoin and Larry Fink has mentioned he wants to tokenize the entire ETF industry, they may use ETH for that, so im considering a position in one of these proxies to get some exposure with this speculation. It doesn't really matter what we think if you can still make money on these moves and if they use ETH then ETH should go up. I don't know how's technically viable tho since last time I checked ETH was too expensive and slow for these things.
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June 27, 2025, 06:29:53 PM |
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Imagine holding ETH as a treasury reserve, only to face an emergency situation where there is need to rely on those funds, but unfortunately it's price plunge uncontrollably. The very asset meant to provide financial security now becomes a liability, exposing the country or company to massive shortfalls at the worst possible time.
The most silly part of ETH treasuries is that it drop 30–60% or even more in a week during market crash this alone can cause severe reduction in the allocated treasury, leaving any institution underfunded when they need stability the most.
I don't know who are the market makers behind ethereum but they suck and they are terrible human beings, they are the ones responsible for all this market tricks. They dump at every opportunity and then buy back at the bottom, this game of swings profits has been for a long time but do we blame them? Ethereum team hasn't been transparent and it all started before the pre-proof of stake mainet they pivoted to, alot of people didn't understand the concept and rush in by locking all their investments. It's among the reasons why institutional investors are avoiding them as much as possible. Bitcoin doesn't have all this gimmicks people that will try to trap and makes them bow to their it's concensus, it's just 21m maximum supply, you get what you buy and it's yours. It's left for you to decide what you want to do with it, no team, no insiders, no misinformation, everything pure and transparent, this is why we are having more institutional buying Bitcoin all the time.
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June 27, 2025, 09:18:33 PM |
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Imagine holding ETH as a treasury reserve, only to face an emergency situation where there is need to rely on those funds, but unfortunately it's price plunge uncontrollably. The very asset meant to provide financial security now becomes a liability, exposing the country or company to massive shortfalls at the worst possible time.
The most silly part of ETH treasuries is that it drop 30–60% or even more in a week during market crash this alone can cause severe reduction in the allocated treasury, leaving any institution underfunded when they need stability the most.
I don't know who are the market makers behind ethereum but they suck and they are terrible human beings, they are the ones responsible for all this market tricks. They dump at every opportunity and then buy back at the bottom, this game of swings profits has been for a long time but do we blame them? Ethereum team hasn't been transparent and it all started before the pre-proof of stake mainet they pivoted to, alot of people didn't understand the concept and rush in by locking all their investments. Do not blame market makers: they are providing liquidity to the markets, allowing them to function correctly. Of course, doing so, they profit, but it is the correct premium for the risk they are taking. Ethereum is not falling because of a lack of founders; the price is falling because ETH has changed its narrative too many times, following the current media flow rather than pursuing a long-term goal.
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June 27, 2025, 11:30:51 PM |
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This is a worrying red flag about a company: adding ETH or any shitcoin to their treasury denotes their poor understanding of crypto and finance in general, trying to attract investors money, to the short term benefit of shareholders, rather than the long term value of the company. Sharplink of other similar firms shall be avoided.
When big companies invest in sheet coins like Ethereum, the price of sheet coins may increase for a short time, but it will not be a long-term one. Maybe companies will enter the market to make a profit for a short time and they will leave the market by making a profit by artificially increasing the price from the market. In Bitcoin, I don't think any sheet coin will ever be as stable and widely accepted by people as Bitcoin. So far, many sheet coins have come into the market that were very hyped for a short time, but they quickly drove investors crazy and were removed from the market. It can be assumed that big investors will never hold Ethereum or sheet coins. Although they do invest in these tokens, it will be for a short time. Bitcoin is the most reliable and secure coin that maintains the correct value of assets during inflation and is the most acceptable coin by all people. I am pretty sceptical about ETH being bought as a treasury reserve. The total yield, taking into account Staking, has been very negative over the last years. It would be hard to convince anyone of the long-term value proposition of ETH. Bitcoin treasuries might be a silly idea for most companies, but Ethereum treasuries are definitely a silly idea. After declaring Bitcoin as a strategic reserve asset in 2025, many large and famous institutions around the world are considering Bitcoin as a strategic reserve and holding Bitcoin. Both currencies can be chosen as strategic reserves, but Bitcoin can be given more importance as a strategic reserve asset because of its fixed supply of 21 million Bitcoins and its lack of dependence on any counterparty. However, there are risks in both cases. On the other hand, Ethereum's unlimited supply can be considered a controlled strategic reserve, but its value is not increasing, so it is given less importance.
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June 27, 2025, 11:57:52 PM |
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https://x.com/BTCTN/status/1938734617743221239?t=I3ju5Q2Qd7c_nWkNiMumCw&s=19According to my research, I found out that Metaplanet is an organization or a company that manages hotel and also engages in some other Web3, Blockchain etc investment and they operate in Japan. When I saw this thread on X I was wondering and thinking how would someone purchase this huge amount of Bitcoin and then said the reason for the purchase is not for strategy neither is it for optics but rather that, the figure looks cool, even thought I know the company has money I still doubt the caption because I believe the reason is for reserve and they know what they stand to gain in years coming. Do you believe the caption? 
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June 28, 2025, 06:03:47 AM |
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I am pretty sceptical about ETH being bought as a treasury reserve. The total yield, taking into account Staking, has been very negative over the last years. It would be hard to convince anyone of the long-term value proposition of ETH.
Bitcoin treasuries might be a silly idea for most companies, but Ethereum treasuries are definitely a silly idea.
Comparing the stability, security and acceptability of Bitcoin and Ethereum, we see that - Investing in Bitcoin is safe from all angles. Some of the notable reasons for this are: ▪️ The total supply of Bitcoin is known (21M) so the possibility of ATM inflation is low. On the other hand, the total supply of Ethereum is indefinite so the possibility of its inflation in the market is very high because if the supply of Ethereum increases, its price will automatically decrease. ▪️ In terms of security, Bitcoin is ahead of many because Bitcoin has not seen any significant security flaws in about 15 years since 2009, but the Ethereum chain that started in 2015 has been hacked several times. For example - hacking like DAO, DeFi, NFT. The Bitcoin network is the largest and most secure Proof-of-Work network. On the other hand, the Ethereum network recently migrated to Proof-of-Stake, a relatively new technology that has increased a lot. ▪️ Bitcoin has not seen any major upgrades or changes so far, and there have been no major technical problems. On the other hand, Ethereum has a high risk of regular updates (EIP, sharding) errors or bugs. Ethereum has so many problems and even though Bitcoin is in the market, it would be foolish to reserve Ethereum in an electronic currency reserve without Bitcoin. If big investors want to invest in Ethereum, it will be for a short time. Because they know that if they announce to buy Ethereum, small investors will follow them and move towards Ethereum, resulting in an increase in price. Then they will sell their accumulated Ethereum and exit the market with a good profit. So if small investors take the initiative to store Ethereum for the long term in the face of big investors, it will be tantamount to suicide. Why use seatcoin for long-term storage when there is Bitcoin in the market? Bitcoin is safe, Bitcoin is the best,,Buy Bitcoin protect your assets from Inflation.
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June 28, 2025, 07:43:54 AM |
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When big companies invest in sheet coins like Ethereum, the price of sheet coins may increase for a short time, but it will not be a long-term one. I am pretty sceptical about ETH being bought as a treasury reserve. The total yield, taking into account Staking, has been very negative over the last years. It would be hard to convince anyone of the long-term value proposition of ETH. Bitcoin treasuries might be a silly idea for most companies, but Ethereum treasuries are definitely a silly idea. Bitcoin remains the most reliable and profiting coin that everyone would not regret holding both companies due to the massive increase in the value overtime, any company who want to make progress in the future will never choose ethereum over bitcoin, because ethereum is not promising as we thought. with this, I still doubt it if there is any company who would want to make ethereum a best choice of investment regardless to this unfulfilled promise that ethereum has made, rather they can only chose to diversify into ethereum after they most have stack enough bitcoin in thier portfolio.
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June 28, 2025, 08:08:31 AM |
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I am becoming increasingly sceptical about the concept of a Bitcoin Reserve for companies (not countries). Implementation details differ significantly, with some concerning signals among the latest newcomers.
I am going to analyse the different implementations across the various treasuries, trying to spot the red flags.
Now you've left me curious. I imagine you are going to open a specific thread about it? There are many as of today with bitcoin for their reserves and with mixed results. MARA or SMLR have been trading at 1mNAV for some time now, so it doesn't seem to be working very well for them, while others like MSTR, Metaplanet or ALTBG have clearly benefited from the strategy.
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June 28, 2025, 02:28:04 PM |
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Michael Saylor made a post on her X and she compared the one-year returns of MSTR and Bitcoin and other companies to see which one was more profitable. According to the one-year return return, Bitcoin is in second place in this chart, which is much ahead of all other assets. The highest return and profit in one year has been given by Microstrategy (MSTR), which has made the most profit of 169%, which is the highest. Bitcoin is in second place with 76%, it has grown a lot in one year and investors have benefited a lot from it. And the next ranking is Tesla(TSLA) which is 67%, then Gold (GLD) 44%, META (Facebook) 39% and (Nvidia) NBDA 23%, Bitcoin has become much more popular and developed in one year compared to these companies. Moreover, Apple and Google are very popular, but their market has been affected downwards, where (AAPL) Apple is -6% and (GOOG) Google is -7%. And other companies have given moderate profits, QQQ, SPY, AMZN, MSST, BNQ and BND have given modest one-year returns. The highest return in one year has been given by MSTR and Bitcoin, which is the highest, and the lowest return has been given by Apple and Google, where losses are more than profits. So investing in Bitcoin is much more profitable than investing in all other companies and it is ready to give better returns in the future. https://x.com/saylor/status/1938232402217709899?t=52nZ75VRdgpOeHoOj3D4ng&s=19
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June 30, 2025, 08:42:15 AM |
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Metaplanet has acquired 1,234 BTC for ~$132.7 million at ~$107,557 per bitcoin and has achieved BTC Yield of 315% YTD 2025. As of 6/26/2025, we hold 12,345 $BTC acquired for ~$1.20 billion at ~$97,036 per bitcoin. MetaPlanet has increased its strategic reserve of Bitcoin for the second time this week, adding 1,234 new Bitcoins to its strategic reserve today, after purchasing 1,111 Bitcoins.
Metaplanet buys 1005 more bitcoin today worth of 108Million dollars. Metaplanet holdings 13350 Bitcoin. Metaplanet is the top 5 largest BTC treasury Company.
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June 30, 2025, 12:34:54 PM |
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Metaplanet Adds $104M in BTC, Testing Limits of Bitcoin Treasury Plan Metaplanet’s Bitcoin stash grew by 46,806 BTC in June, fueling both investor excitement and concerns among industry observers.  Japanese firm Metaplanet has bought 1,005 more Bitcoin for $97 million, lifting its total holdings to 13,350 BTC worth $1.27 billion. The company relies on bond issuance and stock rights to fund rapid Bitcoin accumulation, raising concerns over structural fragility. Industry observers say the model delivers eye-catching returns but could trigger forced selling and market instability if conditions turn. Japanese investment firm Metaplanet Inc. added another 1,005 BTC to its expanding Bitcoin treasury, spending $104 million (¥15.6 billion) per Bitcoin as part of its most aggressive monthly acquisition spree yet. Metaplanet's latest purchase brings its total Bitcoin holdings to 13,350 BTC, worth approximately $1.27 billion (¥191.3 billion), securing its position as Asia's most audacious corporate Bitcoin adopter. https://decrypt.co/327759/metaplanet-adds-104m-in-btc-testing-limits-of-bitcoin-treasury-plan
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June 30, 2025, 12:35:40 PM |
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Finally, a news about a Nation State Bitcoin Strategic Reserve: Kazakhstan plans national cryptocurrency reserve using seized assets, state-mined coins- National Bank Governor Timur Suleimenov says Kazakhstan will pool seized cryptocurrency and state-mined assets into a reserve managed by a central bank affiliate.
- The plan builds on Kazakhstan’s 13% share of global BTC hash rate and its tight miner licensing, positioning the country alongside U.S. states and firms stockpiling digital assets.
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June 30, 2025, 03:35:18 PM |
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Such news should have come from Kazakhstan earlier. Because when China stopped Bitcoin mining in 2021, Kazakhstan emerged as the second largest Bitcoin mining country in the world. But mining was later stopped due to various obstacles. However, it is expected that having Bitcoin as Kazakhstan's reserve currency in 2025 will enrich the country economically in the future.
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June 30, 2025, 05:14:57 PM |
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Metaplanet has acquired 1,234 BTC for ~$132.7 million at ~$107,557 per bitcoin and has achieved BTC Yield of 315% YTD 2025. As of 6/26/2025, we hold 12,345 $BTC acquired for ~$1.20 billion at ~$97,036 per bitcoin. MetaPlanet has increased its strategic reserve of Bitcoin for the second time this week, adding 1,234 new Bitcoins to its strategic reserve today, after purchasing 1,111 Bitcoins.
Metaplanet buys 1005 more bitcoin today worth of 108Million dollars. Metaplanet holdings 13350 Bitcoin. Metaplanet is the top 5 largest BTC treasury Company. Metaplanet, known as MicroStrategy in Japan, has already announced that it will purchase 210,000 Bitcoins by 2027. To this end, Metaplanet is trying to increase its strategic reserve of Bitcoin and is investing every week. After purchasing 1111 Bitcoins last week, it purchased 1005 Bitcoins today this week, bringing its total holding to 13350 Bitcoins. However, with the way MetaPlanet is increasing its strategic Bitcoin reserve, it certainly won't take long to move into second position, meaning it could very well be able to move into the next position after MSTR this year.
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June 30, 2025, 11:56:11 PM |
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Finally, a news about a Nation State Bitcoin Strategic Reserve: Kazakhstan plans national cryptocurrency reserve using seized assets, state-mined coins- National Bank Governor Timur Suleimenov says Kazakhstan will pool seized cryptocurrency and state-mined assets into a reserve managed by a central bank affiliate.
- The plan builds on Kazakhstan’s 13% share of global BTC hash rate and its tight miner licensing, positioning the country alongside U.S. states and firms stockpiling digital assets.
At present, Kazakhstan has made the most appropriate decision to participate in the Bitcoin Reserve by investing their seized money and state-mined assets in the Bitcoin Reserve. At present, governments of various intelligent countries and countries are using this Bitcoin as a strategic reserve to further improve the country's resources and become economically self-sufficient. This Bitcoin investment strategy is the best strategy to make the country economically self-sufficient, by holding Bitcoin for a long time, their country will be able to move forward.
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July 01, 2025, 02:33:12 AM |
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Finally, a news about a Nation State Bitcoin Strategic Reserve: Kazakhstan plans national cryptocurrency reserve using seized assets, state-mined coins- National Bank Governor Timur Suleimenov says Kazakhstan will pool seized cryptocurrency and state-mined assets into a reserve managed by a central bank affiliate.
- The plan builds on Kazakhstan’s 13% share of global BTC hash rate and its tight miner licensing, positioning the country alongside U.S. states and firms stockpiling digital assets.
x.comKazakhstan also wants to create a Bitcoin reserve in their country like others. This is certainly a good policy for the country. Although they initially want to include seized cryptocurrencies and mined coins in the reserve. Such a policy will definitely have a positive impact on the country's cryptocurrency sectors. Kazakhstan is home to 13% of the world's Bitcoin mining, which will play a positive role in creating a large Bitcoin reserve.
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July 01, 2025, 03:00:32 AM |
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Imagine holding ETH as a treasury reserve, only to face an emergency situation where there is need to rely on those funds, but unfortunately it's price plunge uncontrollably. The very asset meant to provide financial security now becomes a liability, exposing the country or company to massive shortfalls at the worst possible time.
The most silly part of ETH treasuries is that it drop 30–60% or even more in a week during market crash this alone can cause severe reduction in the allocated treasury, leaving any institution underfunded when they need stability the most.
I don't know who are the market makers behind ethereum but they suck and they are terrible human beings, they are the ones responsible for all this market tricks. They dump at every opportunity and then buy back at the bottom, this game of swings profits has been for a long time but do we blame them? Ethereum team hasn't been transparent and it all started before the pre-proof of stake mainet they pivoted to, alot of people didn't understand the concept and rush in by locking all their investments. It's not the Ethereum team that is not sincere, but you, as you are exaggerating about what is not there. I've not seen any allegation related to your accusation about the team yet, and all their plans are always pre-warned and published. This is also an open source. As for the market, it has its pattern and dynamics, and it flows with sentiment. I see no manipulation here, not even with the market makers, because they are everywhere, and their activities are legal to provide liquidity, and of course, for some gains, which are not illegally planned or structured. The Ethereum team will not even dare to contact the market makers or anyone for price manipulation.
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July 01, 2025, 09:11:56 AM |
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Finally, a news about a Nation State Bitcoin Strategic Reserve: Kazakhstan plans national cryptocurrency reserve using seized assets, state-mined coins- National Bank Governor Timur Suleimenov says Kazakhstan will pool seized cryptocurrency and state-mined assets into a reserve managed by a central bank affiliate.
- The plan builds on Kazakhstan’s 13% share of global BTC hash rate and its tight miner licensing, positioning the country alongside U.S. states and firms stockpiling digital assets.
Since this is coming from Timur Suleimenov,it's shows how serious the government of Kazakhstan are to create a national Bitcoin reserve. It's obvious that this government plans on diversifying part of the country resources by investing confiscated criminal assets in Bitcoin.I believe this policy is in the best of the country and if initiated will further enhanced the economy framework of the country. I hope the legal process to implement the national Bitcoin reserve begins soon.
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July 01, 2025, 10:06:23 AM |
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Finally, a news about a Nation State Bitcoin Strategic Reserve: Kazakhstan plans national cryptocurrency reserve using seized assets, state-mined coins- National Bank Governor Timur Suleimenov says Kazakhstan will pool seized cryptocurrency and state-mined assets into a reserve managed by a central bank affiliate.
- The plan builds on Kazakhstan’s 13% share of global BTC hash rate and its tight miner licensing, positioning the country alongside U.S. states and firms stockpiling digital assets.
Really great news to hear that a country in central asia is adapting on the idea about creating their own Bitcoin reserve. Although they would start on seize coins and from mined this is good start since provably that they would consider to buy more especially there would be a lot more good situation would happen on Bitcoin. Excited about other country would announce same like this since this is really helpful for Bitcoin also to those people who hold it for long time.
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