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[notblox1]

Kinda really miss having a good ANN thread to talk about Sports with no pools. Southeast Asian Games going on and Singapore is shitty as usual with scams and scandals lol

Good luck trying to find topic like that without spam  
Sponsored pool topics are good because they are more censored and they dont allow everyone to post.
Since you started the subject of pools, do you know if we have any pool that is sponsored by Betpanda casino or plans for doing that?

[Dave1]

Kinda really miss having a good ANN thread to talk about Sports with no pools. Southeast Asian Games going on and Singapore is shitty as usual with scams and scandals lol

Good luck trying to find topic like that without spam  
Sponsored pool topics are good because they are more censored and they dont allow everyone to post.
Since you started the subject of pools, do you know if we have any pool that is sponsored by Betpanda casino or plans for doing that?

I don't know about what happened to SEA games as there are a lot of controversial. Like in the sports of boxing wherein the coach decided to just not push for the fight and walk out because of the outcome something like a home cook decision.

And even some countries themselves had some of their own like the Philippine fencing.

In any case, there is no such discussion in the gambling board so perhaps gamblers didn't follow this sporting event.

[Peanutswar]

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Regardless of what other casino representatives said, I would avoid a casino that requires my real phone number and requires me to verify the account by providing OTP. It is probably one of the strongest methods for 2FA, but now the phone number is tied to identity information. Submitting the phone number means sharing your personal information with the casino. So if the phone number is optional and it is okay to submit random phone numbers, I think people who love anonymous casinos would go for it. But at the same time, it is kinda unethical. I would also recommend not to do that.

If you are sensitive with your information yet it is, which is the reason why people avoid now using their mobile numbers because of the possible leak of their phone numbers and then use these numbers as a way to communicate to the owner, even with the SIM swap which is one of the common these days. Now there are some services offering a phone number can be use as alternative without using your real number could be good to use too but base on my ob servation recently for those casino they just require an email only for those advance kyc only applied with the phone and identity verification such as docs and facial.

[TryNinja]

If you are sensitive with your information yet it is, which is the reason why people avoid now using their mobile numbers because of the possible leak of their phone numbers and then use these numbers as a way to communicate to the owner, even with the SIM swap which is one of the common these days. Now there are some services offering a phone number can be use as alternative without using your real number could be good to use too but base on my ob servation recently for those casino they just require an email only for those advance kyc only applied with the phone and identity verification such as docs and facial.

FYI, if you rent a phone number from any third party service, there is a non zero chance someone gets access to the same number and can tries to hijack your account the same way some people were doing sim swaps.

I would never use a rented number for something as sensitive as a casino (that holds my crypto) if they allow that information for password reseting, etc... better just use a fake number if you can.

[The Cryptovator]

If you are sensitive with your information yet it is, which is the reason why people avoid now using their mobile numbers because of the possible leak of their phone numbers and then use these numbers as a way to communicate to the owner, even with the SIM swap which is one of the common these days. Now there are some services offering a phone number can be use as alternative without using your real number could be good to use too but base on my ob servation recently for those casino they just require an email only for those advance kyc only applied with the phone and identity verification such as docs and facial.

If it's something financially related, I don't like to use any virtual phone numbers. I know you may buy permanent virtual numbers, but still I don't feel safe with that. It's not like Telegram, which you create using a virtual number and protect with passwords. I had used virtual numbers to create Telegram, and often I have been receiving OTP on Telegram, which means someone else is trying to log in through my account protected by a password.

Like gambling sites or exchange I don't prefer to use even permanent virtual numbers. Who knows? Even your virtual number's panel could get compromised. Where you need to provide your personal documents for KYC, then also you can provide your original phone numbers. It's about to secure your accounts, though we have seen hackers even retrieve the OTP somehow by getting help from the operators, definitely through corrupted representatives of the SIM company.

better just use a fake number if you can.

Fake could be used only if not necessary to reset password or need OTP for withdrawal. Otherwise using fake numbers would have an issues later.

[TryNinja]

better just use a fake number if you can.

Fake could be used only if not necessary to reset password or need OTP for withdrawal. Otherwise using fake numbers would have an issues later.

In this case it's equally bad to use a rented phone number. Usually they only last a few hours/days or a few verifications. Imagine not being able to withdraw because you never owned the number and it is suddenly dead....

I would just buy a burn local phone number and use that one. At least in Brazil you need to provide your CPF (ID number), but it's trivial to use a fake one.

[maknyos]

I don't really follow the matches in the Conference league, but I have seen them a few times. And speaking of the match between Dynamo Kyiv vs Noah, I myself make Noah more of a favorite even though they will be playing as a guest team.
But if you want to bet on a safe bet, it seems that betting on 2 teams will create goals can be considered. But I myself will most likely not bet on this match and honestly I am not used to betting on league conference matches.

Guys, all three matches i mentioned went through. I don’t know why you didn’t believe me when i said Dynamo Kyiv could beat Noah Anyone who followed the picks I posted got a pretty solid odds. Unfortunately, i added Crystal Palace and that ruined my bet. As for Conference League games, I don’t play them that often either,actually, almost never ,but every now and then you find a few interesting matchups like the ones i mentioned before

It's a shame when your bet is ruined by one match, hopefully in the next bet you can get a win without having to feel disappointed because one match ruined your bet.
I don't believe in what you predicted, but as we know we must have differences in analyzing matches and even then it doesn't guarantee that what I predicted is correct, proven I was wrong in predicting this match. But that is a very common thing in football betting, not all predictions go according to what we expect.

[avp2306]

better just use a fake number if you can.

Fake could be used only if not necessary to reset password or need OTP for withdrawal. Otherwise using fake numbers would have an issues later.

In this case it's equally bad to use a rented phone number. Usually they only last a few hours/days or a few verifications. Imagine not being able to withdraw because you never owned the number and it is suddenly dead....

I would just buy a burn local phone number and use that one. At least in Brazil you need to provide your CPF (ID number), but it's trivial to use a fake one.

I find that so risky knowing that he might really encounter verification and account recovery issues. Also I thin casino is heavy regulated and using those disposable phone numbers can trigger fraud activities that's why I really don't feel comfortable using such thing.

Instead of renting buying disposable sim card the same as what you have said is much better option here. Since anytime they can use it whenever its needed other country might have certain KYC to register their sim card to their network provider but I think there's nothing harm to get if they use this option.

[Shishir99]

If you are sensitive with your information yet it is, which is the reason why people avoid now using their mobile numbers because of the possible leak of their phone numbers and then use these numbers as a way to communicate to the owner, even with the SIM swap which is one of the common these days. Now there are some services offering a phone number can be use as alternative without using your real number could be good to use too but base on my ob servation recently for those casino they just require an email only for those advance kyc only applied with the phone and identity verification such as docs and facial.

Yes, I have heard about services that allow people to have a virtual phone number, which enables them to receive OTPs to verify social media accounts and other service accounts, such as casinos and exchanges. However, you have to keep that number active in case you have to receive OTP again in the future. Therefore, maintaining to active virtual number could be expensive. Using a virtual number is kinda risky these days. Imagine you did not renewed it and someone else accuired this number from the same service.

[OcTradism]

Yes, I have heard about services that allow people to have a virtual phone number, which enables them to receive OTPs to verify social media accounts and other service accounts, such as casinos and exchanges. However, you have to keep that number active in case you have to receive OTP again in the future. Therefore, maintaining to active virtual number could be expensive. Using a virtual number is kinda risky these days. Imagine you did not renewed it and someone else accuired this number from the same service.

Even they allow users to do this, after registering your account and use virtual phone number for OTP 2FA, if users are experienced, they will change 2FA method from OTP to 2FA applications. This method is more secure and surely better than virtual phone number and OTP and people who choose OTP are either too unknowlegeable about security or too lazy for changes.

2FA applications are like all other softwares, have open source and close source softwares, and people should use open source 2FA like Aegis.
https://getaegis.app/

[katanic97]

I don't really follow the matches in the Conference league, but I have seen them a few times. And speaking of the match between Dynamo Kyiv vs Noah, I myself make Noah more of a favorite even though they will be playing as a guest team.
But if you want to bet on a safe bet, it seems that betting on 2 teams will create goals can be considered. But I myself will most likely not bet on this match and honestly I am not used to betting on league conference matches.

Guys, all three matches i mentioned went through. I don’t know why you didn’t believe me when i said Dynamo Kyiv could beat Noah Anyone who followed the picks I posted got a pretty solid odds. Unfortunately, i added Crystal Palace and that ruined my bet. As for Conference League games, I don’t play them that often either,actually, almost never ,but every now and then you find a few interesting matchups like the ones i mentioned before

It's a shame when your bet is ruined by one match, hopefully in the next bet you can get a win without having to feel disappointed because one match ruined your bet.
I don't believe in what you predicted, but as we know we must have differences in analyzing matches and even then it doesn't guarantee that what I predicted is correct, proven I was wrong in predicting this match. But that is a very common thing in football betting, not all predictions go according to what we expect.

I was just about to post a winning bet, but Crystal Palace drew, even though KuPS had a red card from the 73' minute. I only added that match to slightly increase the odds, betting that they would win convincingly. I know you didn’t believe it, but the matches went through anyway Next time, give a prediction too and we’ll consider it

[rdbase]

If you are sensitive with your information yet it is, which is the reason why people avoid now using their mobile numbers because of the possible leak of their phone numbers and then use these numbers as a way to communicate to the owner, even with the SIM swap which is one of the common these days. Now there are some services offering a phone number can be use as alternative without using your real number could be good to use too but base on my ob servation recently for those casino they just require an email only for those advance kyc only applied with the phone and identity verification such as docs and facial.

FYI, if you rent a phone number from any third party service, there is a non zero chance someone gets access to the same number and can tries to hijack your account the same way some people were doing sim swaps.

I would never use a rented number for something as sensitive as a casino (that holds my crypto) if they allow that information for password reseting, etc... better just use a fake number if you can.

Better to use a rental phone number whenever registering on any casino site nowadays.
Since just received an email from the one I regularly use and they have confirmed that there third party services have been compromised and customer's data including email and phone numbers have been breached by hackers.
Atleast these type of phone numbers are not tied to your mobile number which are a pain to get changed.
While these can just be discarded in the trash.

[TryNinja]

2FA applications are like all other softwares, have open source and close source softwares, and people should use open source 2FA like Aegis.
https://getaegis.app/

Or Raivo for iOS (the one I use): https://apps.apple.com/br/app/raivo-freeotp-authenticator/id1459042137

(Aegis is Android-only)

Better to use a rental phone number whenever registering on any casino site nowadays.
Since just received an email from the one I regularly use and they have confirmed that there third party services have been compromised and customer's data including email and phone numbers have been breached by hackers.
Atleast these type of phone numbers are not tied to your mobile number which are a pain to get changed.
While these can just be discarded in the trash.

Like I said, I rather get a burn phone number not connected to my person if your country allows that. You have full control over the number and there is no connection between your account and your person.

In all cases, aren't people usually using KYC based casinos that already hold your documents? I think people should worry about this first, rather than the leak of their phone number.

[BlackBaron]

Indeed, for the username that can be used to play, it is free, with that no one can know our identity, except the casino itself.

That's what I mean, there's a misunderstanding that can create problems in the future. And we end up having to contact support to verify everything. And sometimes we also need more data if we have to contact support because they also anticipate account abuse or something else. This is actually a disadvantage for ourselves if we fill in random data from the start.

It is a reality that there are abusive individuals within the gambling industry. These bad actors assume their misconduct will go unnoticed by the support team; however, once they are exposed, they are the ones who face consequences.

In truth, these support teams are highly effective because of their strong investigative capabilities. That is why you are still right in spme other angle as well in this matter too.

They have a special team to investigate suspicious accounts, and it is normal for them to suspect accounts that do not provide valid data at the beginning even if it is really our own account. So they anticipate it by asking for supporting evidence that the account is ours.

In anything there will definitely be people who want to misuse the account. Especially when the casino provides bonus prizes, sign-up bonuses or codes that can claim bonuses and others. Even though the casino itself must have anticipated this by using strict security.

[Z_MBFM]

Indeed, for the username that can be used to play, it is free, with that no one can know our identity, except the casino itself.

That's what I mean, there's a misunderstanding that can create problems in the future. And we end up having to contact support to verify everything. And sometimes we also need more data if we have to contact support because they also anticipate account abuse or something else. This is actually a disadvantage for ourselves if we fill in random data from the start.

It is a reality that there are abusive individuals within the gambling industry. These bad actors assume their misconduct will go unnoticed by the support team; however, once they are exposed, they are the ones who face consequences.

In truth, these support teams are highly effective because of their strong investigative capabilities. That is why you are still right in spme other angle as well in this matter too.

They have a special team to investigate suspicious accounts, and it is normal for them to suspect accounts that do not provide valid data at the beginning even if it is really our own account. So they anticipate it by asking for supporting evidence that the account is ours.

In anything there will definitely be people who want to misuse the account. Especially when the casino provides bonus prizes, sign-up bonuses or codes that can claim bonuses and others. Even though the casino itself must have anticipated this by using strict security.

Casino platforms offer various types of bonuses, but those bonuses must be within a budget and they must have an investigation team to ensure that they are properly received by actual gamblers. This is natural. Because without a good investigation team, those bonuses will be taken by scammers and in addition to the financial losses of the casino platforms, they will not be able to gain enough potential jewelry. Therefore, it is very important to investigate the bonus issues very well and the casino sites that come to the market to do a real business monitor these issues very well.

[Kavelj22]

Regardless of what other casino representatives said, I would avoid a casino that requires my real phone number and requires me to verify the account by providing OTP. It is probably one of the strongest methods for 2FA, but now the phone number is tied to identity information. Submitting the phone number means sharing your personal information with the casino. So if the phone number is optional and it is okay to submit random phone numbers, I think people who love anonymous casinos would go for it. But at the same time, it is kinda unethical. I would also recommend not to do that.

You are free to adopt the vision you think suitable to protect as much privacy as possible. However it's worth mentioning that there only few No KYC casinos and they are not that trustworthy like centralized casinos. I don't want to play evil lawyer but I have to say that there are centralized casinos perfect running and professional operational team. The key to those trustworthy platforms is to give them part of your privacy which you can consider protection that give you the right to report to authorities in case of dispute.

You are already promoting a KYC casino in your signature, while you refuse to join casinos asking for your phone number.
Many people use third part services that gave them phone numbers to help verify their accounts but this is remain riskier more than giving the right personal number.

[notblox1]

Like I said, I rather get a burn phone number not connected to my person if your country allows that. You have full control over the number and there is no connection between your account and your person.

Most countries now have very strict rules for buying mobile phone numbers, but I have seen websites that are selling phone numbers for crypto payments.
I didnt test this myself but I know people use them when they are traveling to other countries.
I really miss the times when we didnt have many KYC crypto websites.

[Renampun]

In any case, there is no such discussion in the gambling board so perhaps gamblers didn't follow this sporting event.

This is a regional sporting event, so it's quite natural that not many people are discussing it, most likely the discussion will be on each local board, while for direct discussion on the gambling board, there probably won't be any, and even if there were, I don't think that there would be many people joining in discussing it because this is not a global event, unlike the Olympics which are more well-known, perhaps there are more people following it and trying to discuss it, but for regional events, it's not that interesting to discuss.

[dimonstration]

In any case, there is no such discussion in the gambling board so perhaps gamblers didn't follow this sporting event.

This is a regional sporting event, so it's quite natural that not many people are discussing it, most likely the discussion will be on each local board, while for direct discussion on the gambling board, there probably won't be any, and even if there were, I don't think that there would be many people joining in discussing it because this is not a global event, unlike the Olympics which are more well-known, perhaps there are more people following it and trying to discuss it, but for regional events, it's not that interesting to discuss.

There’s already a lot of threads available on gambling discussion board dedicated for regional leagues. There’s Spanish, Turkish and other country league for different sports available.

It’s just much convenient to discuss here on ANN thread since we are using this platform to make that specific bets which means we are discussing to other user that use the same platform as common ground for better communication compared to sports thread that usually just focus on the general match discussion without the betting aspect.

[slaman29]

Kinda really miss having a good ANN thread to talk about Sports with no pools. Southeast Asian Games going on and Singapore is shitty as usual with scams and scandals lol

Good luck trying to find topic like that without spam  
Sponsored pool topics are good because they are more censored and they dont allow everyone to post.
Since you started the subject of pools, do you know if we have any pool that is sponsored by Betpanda casino or plans for doing that?

Spam, yes, I know everywhere has that but we should all try to report and discourage, No idea sir @notblox1 about pools for Betpanda, maybe we can start talking about it and see if they hear us

I don't know about what happened to SEA games as there are a lot of controversial. Like in the sports of boxing wherein the coach decided to just not push for the fight and walk out because of the outcome something like a home cook decision.

And even some countries themselves had some of their own like the Philippine fencing.

In any case, there is no such discussion in the gambling board so perhaps gamblers didn't follow this sporting event.

About SEA games, well, controversy is normal all the countries here are kinda super corrupt but I think not bigger controversies than every week of Europe football

See, though, how all the spammers are quoting our discussions now and talking random shit about it, daaamn