Which is hard to learn, self control or winning long term?

[D ltr]

Both are difficult in my opinion, where self-control to not continue playing is very difficult, where when chasing long-term wins I personally sometimes forget the time and how much money I have wasted, and what's worse is that the wins are sometimes not comparable to what has been spent.

[Findingnemo]

"Winning is a habit" only applicable on things that are in our control for example in sports the winning and losing is in the hand of players and their skills but gambling is not a sport it's an event the outcomes are partially or completely based on luck so you can't learn to win while betting.

That leaves to self control, which we can learn from our experience and it needs skills too for mastering the self control.

[20Bet]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

In my experience, self-control is more challenging than achieving long-term success in gambling. Despite having a solid strategy and dedicated bankroll, I sometimes deviate from my plan, such as increasing my bet size beyond my fixed percentage (when my instinct pushes me to). This is why I believe these kinds of lapses in discipline are our struggle to maintain self-control. Well, every beginner needs to learn how to follow strict discipline first, then they can think of something else.

[YOSHIE]

Which is hard to learn, self control or winning long term?

If you can control yourself when you are in the gambling arena or not in the gambling arena, that is the best step, even though controlling yourself often seems difficult to learn in the long term.

Learning to control yourself means you can control everything in gambling, starting from managing money, making short and long term bets, Self-control can also increase your chances of winning and gambling, so learn self-control more efficiently to ensure you can succeed.

[dansus021]

Do we have the same struggle?

Which is hard to learn, self control or winning long term? In my opinion both self control and Wnning long term is equally needed.

But to get you win you need to control your emotion that is why in my opinion self controll itself is needed to achieve other goal.

Bet within the budget is same with sel control.

[salad daging]

Both are difficult in my opinion, where self-control to not continue playing is very difficult, where when chasing long-term wins I personally sometimes forget the time and how much money I have wasted, and what's worse is that the wins are sometimes not comparable to what has been spent.

It's also called gambling - you shouldn't chase the winnings especially when the capital spent is bigger than the winnings, however, control is more important so that you can limit excessive gambling sessions.

Sometimes if gamblers are not disciplined then they will spend more money on gambling so this is what we have to keep from going overboard, I know there are some gamblers who chase their losses but in the end lose more than return.

So gambling should really be enjoyed with cold money should not be more than your income.

[iv4n]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.
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Do we have the same struggle?

And how can someone become a long-term winner? We all have good & bad days, if our overall winning rate is over 50% (and I guess most of us are around) we can be happy. Simply said, it's impossible to win all the time, especially if we play lucky-based original, live, and slot games.

It's hard to have self-control in gambling all the time... I guess we are all normal, or at least we wish to play normal in the beginning, but here & there we slip and go crazy. For sure to some people that happens more often than to others.

[Pandu Geddon]

Both are difficult in my opinion, where self-control to not continue playing is very difficult, where when chasing long-term wins I personally sometimes forget the time and how much money I have wasted, and what's worse is that the wins are sometimes not comparable to what has been spent.

It's also called gambling - you shouldn't chase the winnings especially when the capital spent is bigger than the winnings, however, control is more important so that you can limit excessive gambling sessions.

Sometimes if gamblers are not disciplined then they will spend more money on gambling so this is what we have to keep from going overboard, I know there are some gamblers who chase their losses but in the end lose more than return.

So gambling should really be enjoyed with cold money should not be more than your income.

Even if you are winning long term which allows you to win more than what you deposit, we will continue to play. Even victory is what triggers us to continue the game.
Self-control must be applied and owned by gamblers, if it is very difficult then gamblers must be prepared to lose more, maybe even spend all their income on gambling.

It is quite difficult, but everything can be conditioned if we can still think rationally.

[batang_bitcoin]

To be able to win long term, self control is one key to it and I think that's the harder part. As you've mentioned OP, you're having hard time following that percentage you'll be betting from your bankroll and that's why that's the harder part. But once you master the self control, winning long term is very easy and everything that comes easy in front of people like winning in the long term, there's always the story behind it and on how people attained it in the hardest possible ways.

[vccnokyc]

I'd say self control is the most important thing to win longterm.
I'm a forex and crypto trader myself and damn how many times i have made mistakes not sticking to the plan and keep self control.
I guess we always want more, expect something to magically turn around in our favour or try to increase expecting to win it back in seconds.

[Jody.Drummer]

Seriously? I never thought gambling could be a job, with you saying that I can make money from it. I can occasionally get money or profit but because there is no clear certainty about the amount and when it will happen I don't think gambling can be a job that can make money because the name of the job can generate profits in the long term while the profits in gambling are not like that.
In addition, I am not sure we have good self-control will be able to get profits in the long term, the self-control that is owned allows us to maintain our own behavior so that there is no excessive behavior such as re-depositing money on gambling after experiencing a loss, or the desire to recover losses that previously occurred in gambling that was done. With self-control it is something that must be determined, but with long-term benefits even if we require it I am not sure we can.

Got curious about how does this thing became possible while the fact is we cannot assure to earn passive income on gambling. This kind of thinking is dangerous since it will make them believe that its easy to earn on gambling while in fact that they might lose their money unexpectedly also they might experience addiction if they didn't settle up their expectation and chase for more possible gains with gambling.

Before they experience the worse condition better to think again with those statement they said. Also maybe doing some research and following more gambling discussion could help them realize that gambling is not a simple as what they think and they must be careful on this activity. Self control is important so that they would never think about doing excessive situation that can make their life became more miserable.

It is very unlikely and indeed unlikely that anyone can get passive income from gambling because the victory in this gambling is uncertain when and how much will be obtained, we must be able to realize that the house has a greater advantage in terms of profit based on its percentage so players will only experience a lot of defeats, so it is not advisable to seek profit by gambling. Do gambling as it should be entertainment then we will be fine.
In my opinion, gambling itself is simple, we deposit money and gamble then accept the results whether it is lost or won, it's just how smart we are to do it. In addition, as you said, self-control in this case is indeed important because it can determine what our fate will be like in the future.

[hyudien]

To be able to win long term, self control is one key to it and I think that's the harder part. As you've mentioned OP, you're having hard time following that percentage you'll be betting from your bankroll and that's why that's the harder part. But once you master the self control, winning long term is very easy and everything that comes easy in front of people like winning in the long term, there's always the story behind it and on how people attained it in the hardest possible ways.

Self-control is one of the keys in anything, especially if the context is gambling. When you can't control yourself then I can say there will be no victory, and therefore self-control is a very important thing to always be able to do. Basically, long-term victory in gambling I don't see as something that can be done, because it depends on luck and I don't see anyone who can be lucky continuously in the long term. One thing we can do is to implement good financial management, it will be able to make us avoid financial difficulties caused by gambling.

[Maslate]

I'd say self control is the most important thing to win longterm.
I'm a forex and crypto trader myself and damn how many times i have made mistakes not sticking to the plan and keep self control.
I guess we always want more, expect something to magically turn around in our favour or try to increase expecting to win it back in seconds.

Not sure about the exact difference between being a trader and a gambler when it comes to self-control. They say gambling is riskier since the odds usually don’t favor the gambler, while in trading, you can rely on good TA to make some good decisions. In contrast, gambling is often about luck.

I guess it cannot be denied that long-term success is what we all aim for, but without self-control, it’s impossible. And this might what happened to us, not only will you fail to win in the long run, but you might not even last long because your bankroll could easily be wiped out at any time.

[$weetne$$]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Becoming a long term winner has to be the hardest to learn than self control. You can learn self control so fast when it has caused you to lose some money. I did not have self control when I started gambling but after I lost a huge sum of money that was very important to me. I had to start restricting myself and rethink the decisions I take. I also decided to make my decision before starting to gamble and not during the bet because it is difficult to think straight when you are under the pressure that comes from the bets. If I wanted to gambling multiple times, I would make that decision before starting and not when I am gambling but to be profitable in the long term is almost impossible and only very few gamblers are capable of achieving that level of success.

[davis196]

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

What kind of gambling are you talking about? Traditional casino games or sports betting?
Long-term success in gambling? Maybe there are sports bettors, who are having long term success, but they are extremely rare.
I haven't seen any casino gambler having long term success by playing slots, blackjack, roulette, dice, etc. There's no way to achieve long term success with such games. Maybe there are a few extremely good professional poker players, who are consistently successful, but professional poker is more like a sport, rather than actual gambling.
Self-control is essential for every gambler. Failing to maintain your self-control would lead to bad consequences.

[ethereumhunter]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Becoming a long term winner has to be the hardest to learn than self control. You can learn self control so fast when it has caused you to lose some money. I did not have self control when I started gambling but after I lost a huge sum of money that was very important to me. I had to start restricting myself and rethink the decisions I take. I also decided to make my decision before starting to gamble and not during the bet because it is difficult to think straight when you are under the pressure that comes from the bets. If I wanted to gambling multiple times, I would make that decision before starting and not when I am gambling but to be profitable in the long term is almost impossible and only very few gamblers are capable of achieving that level of success.

That is right because no guarantee for us to become a long term winner. We can lose anytime from gambling without winning any money so it is better we learn self control than trying to winning in a long term. Learning self control is not easy but we must keep trying because that will be good for us so that will help us to know that gambling is just for fun. You can learn more about self control in gambling so you can limit your gambling activity including your money and time so you can enjoy gambling. But if you think that you can not hold yourself in gambling, it is better to reduce your gambling activity or not use gambling to relax yourself.

[DragonSlots]

To me, learning self-control is much harder because it often comes from tough experiences. It's a costly lesson in life. If you have self-control, you'll likely understand how to achieve consistent success (if you are lucky...of course)

[Fivestar4everMVP]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Ideally, self-control is necessay for achieving long-term success in gambling, but if we’re talking about the long term, it means we’ll face various challenges that test our discipline. That’s exactly what I’ve experienced, I have a bankroll specifically set for the long term, and the strategy is already in place, it’s just a matter of following through. Yet, from time to time, I lose my discipline.

For instance, my plan is to bet only 2% of my bankroll per stake. However, there are times when I increase it to 5%, 10%, or even more, despite knowing it goes against my strategy. This lack of self-control can derail the long-term plan, and that’s a lesson I keep grappling with.

Do we have the same struggle?

There is nothing known as "winning long term" in gambling, so this actually have nothing to do with self control and cannot be compared.

It's dilusional to believe winning long term in gambling is something, or some kind of skill a person can learn, one can learn to control him or her self in all his or her gambling activities, but can't learn to win long term.
If it was possible to learn to win long term in gambling, many of us who have been gambling for several years now would have become masters in winning, but then, many of us even lose more than the newbies.

So, sorry but your comparison has no meaning for me, it is completely off, thee is no winning guarantee in gambling, and it's the same even if you have 100 years gambling experience, you can never get to a level where you can best your chest and say you win all the time.

[mammusu]

This question is directed at all regular gamblers because we are the ones who experience this the most. Personally, I find that learning self-control is harder than becoming a long-term winner.

Becoming a long term winner has to be the hardest to learn than self control. You can learn self control so fast when it has caused you to lose some money. I did not have self control when I started gambling but after I lost a huge sum of money that was very important to me. I had to start restricting myself and rethink the decisions I take. I also decided to make my decision before starting to gamble and not during the bet because it is difficult to think straight when you are under the pressure that comes from the bets. If I wanted to gambling multiple times, I would make that decision before starting and not when I am gambling but to be profitable in the long term is almost impossible and only very few gamblers are capable of achieving that level of success.

So far I personally set limits in gambling but sometimes the limits actually break down by themselves when they are too engrossed in gambling, so indeed self-control in gambling is not an easy thing to do, usually those who can really control themselves have learned from their bad experiences so far, in my opinion, losing money is often a hard lesson that encourages us to evaluate and change our way of thinking in gambling.

[Altryist]

To be able to win long term, self control is one key to it and I think that's the harder part. As you've mentioned OP, you're having hard time following that percentage you'll be betting from your bankroll and that's why that's the harder part. But once you master the self control, winning long term is very easy and everything that comes easy in front of people like winning in the long term, there's always the story behind it and on how people attained it in the hardest possible ways.

This is a false belief, self-control alone is not enough for you to easily win, you can be as disciplined as you like and always bet no more than 1% of your deposit, but if you have more losing bets than winning ones, or these are bets with low odds, then this will not allow you to have a profit in the long term. In order to make a profit, you need to be a good bettor in any case, who is able to win most of his bets, without this discipline will not be enough.