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January 30, 2025, 06:57:00 PM
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Sports nowadays give players more opportunities like the old days; even Messi and Ronaldo you mentioned are not immune to chasing money. What they love is playing football and displaying their skill, and at the same time, making money while doing what they love.

I don't see anything wrong with them moving to a better area that gives them better pay opportunities. Aside from moving into small leagues and teams, they are also there to play football. The other difference is the type of trophy that they are limited to.

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January 31, 2025, 12:33:11 PM
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@OP, I want you to note that passion is what makes the players you are seeing today to become football player, else, if they have had passion for something else (like business or any professional career like being a doctor or lawyer), then they would not be on the field practicing and going go fixtures. Passion drives you into a particular career, passion makes you to perform well in that carrier and while you are chasing after that career, you expect to make profit or get your income off it and when your income is not getting to your requirement, you will want to seek a greener pastures.

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January 31, 2025, 12:56:00 PM
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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.

I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
Please when commenting let there fact that will be helpful



I think all of this has happened from time to time, nothing really ends because all of this goes as it is. like the fact that you present, there are many professional athletes/players who want to move clubs because they want to get a big salary, at the same time many players/athletes are demanding a salary increase for their new contract. currently Saudi presents something for players who are interested in playing in their league, some are interested and not a few are still continuing their mission and ambition to compete at the European level. whatever the reason, it's all because of choice. I'm not sure, but it seems like you only see everything on the surface. global media says, currently sports has become an industry that brings in a lot of money in it. maybe we agree, the era of Messi and Ronaldo is over but not with the passion of football itself. after all, currently we see many young talents emerging, although not yet reaching the peak stage achieved by the two mega stars in the history of football. IMO, this is not a problem, but it depends on how you look at it.

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January 31, 2025, 01:11:41 PM
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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.

I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
Please when commenting let there fact that will be helpful
I've seen the news that Neymar left Saudi Arabia and I don't see anything unusual with that. If I am an athlete and makes a lot of money playing for a few games and bringing some money to the team where I'll sign, I deserve that money because I've trained all my life for it.

So, it's the same as us being employed and trying to look for better deals and offers outside our company. And whoever gives us some good money then it all means that we're valuable and worth it for them.

Just as what the title says, each of them leaves a legacy and they have their own eras to make.

 
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January 31, 2025, 02:23:32 PM
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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.
Nowadays people does things due to what they see that are coming out of it, and of course during our days in school you would want to study mechanical engineering immediate your parents knows that you want to choose that as a course of study you would see them stopping you immediately they have knowledge that Doctors are well paid, they stresses you to study medicine in school so after graduation you gets employed and started earning higher as they have dreamed.

But here, there is something they don't know about, first they don't know if your Interest is to study what they asked you or not but, to obey your parents you wouldn't have any choice than doing what they asked you to do. Same is applicable to your questions or what you want people to discuss here.

People knows that in football there is a huge payment if they finally becomes successful with it, but then most of them only put the interest to get recognized and after which they get to well known clubs to play you wouldn't see them having that passion instead they would focused on the amount to be paid by their clubs making it that hard for their clubs to pay, but most times when the clubs noticed their importance in their team they wouldn't have any choice to pay just to keep them on their clubs due to their performances.

What you see is common in every sector today, be it the entertainment industry same things happens, they aren't out there for the entertainment anymore but as a competitions to their fellow stars since they are being paid specific amount they also increases their values.


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January 31, 2025, 02:43:04 PM
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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.

I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
Please when commenting let there fact that will be helpful



I don't think it works like that, the passion for football doesn't end with Ronaldo and Messi, the same could have been said with the generation of Pelé and Maradona, of Ronaldiño and Ronaldo Nazario, new stars will always be created that stand out above everything else, what happens is that nowadays the magical moments have been reduced due to competitiveness, few current players dare to do the "joga bonito" because football has evolved to a more mechanized and strategic environment, but surely more will come, because people like football for the spectacle, not to watch their team for 70 minutes touching the ball without taking risks.

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January 31, 2025, 07:09:09 PM
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When I first read your post, I could only be silent because I think there is some truth to it. Especially in your words, it's all about money.
So what do we want now if the condition of the football sport that we follow and watch every season is like that? Rich clubs can buy any player.
Then we will only see this situation continue to our children and grandchildren?
The most likely thing that can change all of this lies in the players themselves. It could also be done by implementing rules agreed upon by parties who have the capacity regarding this.
I don’t think such rules can be implemented as we see that no one is really to settle for less. Not even gambling companies now sponsors
If it can't be implemented as a written rule, it means we don't need to complain about everything we feel right now and just enjoy it while seeing which club owner has a lot of money to bring in the desired player.
Regarding whether or not an offer with a certain amount of money is accepted, let's just say it is accepted because the point is that players now prioritize money over career.

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January 31, 2025, 07:19:42 PM
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@OP, I want you to note that passion is what makes the players you are seeing today to become football player, else, if they have had passion for something else (like business or any professional career like being a doctor or lawyer), then they would not be on the field practicing and going go fixtures. Passion drives you into a particular career, passion makes you to perform well in that carrier and while you are chasing after that career, you expect to make profit or get your income off it and when your income is not getting to your requirement, you will want to seek a greener pastures.
OP wants to see players reject high offers from money spinning leagues like the Saudi Professional League and Major League Soccer because they are passionate about playing competitive football. I will say that there are still players who are not driven by money in football. Player like Luka Modric who is supposed to move to SPL considering their age and achievements, decided to remain in Real Madrid and earn far lesser than he was offered in the Gulf league.

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The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.
Players in the football sports games are noted that football is their profession and because they (players) puts maximum efforts  to bring victories their clubs is worth a payable recognition to encourage them to work harder.

And the fact that there is a trophy prize in the tournaments, is a good approach to put team players on payrolls in other to put their best of bringing victory.

Apparently these players are duly investing their resourceful times in training and engaging on matches (competitions) instead chasing their daily breads is enough reason to consider earning or money alongside.











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January 31, 2025, 07:37:37 PM
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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.

I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
Please when commenting let there fact that will be helpful


Judging from the society pressure that is been displayed by fellow footballers in the industry, it is obvious that players now only just want to fit into lifestyle standard, which is why majority opt in for money, rather than passion just as in the days when Ronaldo and Messi started their football career. Because if you are to look into Ronaldo's story, we could noticed that he had the passion for football right from an early stage, to the point when he was said to have quit school at 16yrs to focus full time on his Football career, which lead to his first contract with Sporting CP, before joining Manchester United for a transfer fee of 12million euros, where he became very popular.
So on the contrary, the quest to want to fit in the luxurious lifestyle is one criteria that is killing the zeal of genuine passion by players of a football club. But that doesn't mean we don't have a few who are passionate about their football career, just as Kylian Mbappe, who rose to stardom due to his passion and commitment.

 
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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

Like it or not, believe it or not also, the world we live in today revolves around money, it is no longer doubt that money actually rules the money for so many people, and this is why I am not surprised that most gamblers have shifted from for passion of the game to gambling for profit, many who are not even supposed to have anything to do with gambling have all gotten themeselves involved in it simply because it's possible to make money off it.

Same thing happening with most players just as you said it, but I would also like to point out something here, the fact that a player is moving or decided to move to a bigger club where he possibly will get paid better doesn't necessarily mean he's no longer playing for the passion, the passion for football is what got him to becoming a football player in the first place, and when offering a service on what we are passionate about, you can't always do it for free because it's what we have taken up as a profession, no longer a hobby.
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Players eventually change clubs and retire. I don't feel like the mentioned era was the last one, it's just one of many. It's like some of us loved the 70s, then came the 80s and people loved that too. Sure the 70s and 80s will not return, but that doesn't mean we won't have great periods ever again.

Do you remember Ronaldinho? He was very good. How about Zidane? I remember watching him do that famous headbutt live. Also, how is this related to gambling is beyond my understanding Wink
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Because football has become such a big business, players are always looking for ways to make money. Love, pride, and loyalty aren't the only things that make people bond. Lots of people say that the "love of the game" is gone, but that's not the whole picture. Wages rise, times change, and jobs don't last long. Even greats like Ronaldo and Messi wanted to sign contracts that would make them money. Nobody works for free, even if they are very good at what they do. It is normal to want protection, stability, and approval

Since this change happened, some fans feel cheated. That's true. Other think players should get every penny. That's also true. People care deeply about football teams, players, and the action, so both points of view are important. People gamble on results because they want to feel a thrill. If you do it in a smart way (know your limits, your funds, and your boundaries), that's fine. You can be passionate and make money at the same time, but we have to accept that professional football is now an industry, with players' choices influenced by sponsorships, TV deals, and crazy paychecks

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@OP, I want you to note that passion is what makes the players you are seeing today to become football player, else, if they have had passion for something else (like business or any professional career like being a doctor or lawyer), then they would not be on the field practicing and going go fixtures. Passion drives you into a particular career, passion makes you to perform well in that carrier and while you are chasing after that career, you expect to make profit or get your income off it and when your income is not getting to your requirement, you will want to seek a greener pastures.

Passion is indeed an important consideration when it comes to making a choice on what tot go for, we are seeing people around the world with their different skills doing well and performing valiantly all because they have passion for what they are doing, time will always bring to us different talents and we have our own decision in choosing between which we want and don't, but through passion, we have the opportunity of getting the best form them all, why we are all working harder is to make enough room for our prospects in life, most especially when it comes to career and at the end, we choose between if its a profitable one or not base on the attraction it has generated for us from the public.

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January 31, 2025, 10:15:36 PM
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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.


- money
-reputation
-passion

Indeed, players do their best to show their talent to make more money. But of course, they won't be there, and nobody will take them if they don't have the passion for playing. We'd the market inflation this time; people become practical and take the higher opportunity offered.

Yes, the era seems to have changed, but still, I believe that the spirit/passion of playing remains. And this match-fixing had something to do with the changes happening in sports. Changes happen because the mindset of the players also changes.
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@OP, I want you to note that passion is what makes the players you are seeing today to become football player, else, if they have had passion for something else (like business or any professional career like being a doctor or lawyer), then they would not be on the field practicing and going go fixtures. Passion drives you into a particular career, passion makes you to perform well in that carrier and while you are chasing after that career, you expect to make profit or get your income off it and when your income is not getting to your requirement, you will want to seek a greener pastures.
You are correct, but do you also know that some people chose that career not just based on passion but based on what they see will be more profitable to them? Some are just into it because of the money that they know can be made from it.

There are other passions that they also like, but they chose to develop their career in sports knowing what they are targeting. With the money they make from sports, a lot of these players are now into different kinds of businesses that are not known to the public, which that business won't also be far from what they cherish. The dedication they give to that passion is based on the monetary benefit they expect from it.

 
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@OP, I want you to note that passion is what makes the players you are seeing today to become football player, else, if they have had passion for something else (like business or any professional career like being a doctor or lawyer), then they would not be on the field practicing and going go fixtures. Passion drives you into a particular career, passion makes you to perform well in that carrier and while you are chasing after that career, you expect to make profit or get your income off it and when your income is not getting to your requirement, you will want to seek a greener pastures.
You are correct, but do you also know that some people chose that career not just based on passion but based on what they see will be more profitable to them? Some are just into it because of the money that they know can be made from it.

There are other passions that they also like, but they chose to develop their career in sports knowing what they are targeting. With the money they make from sports, a lot of these players are now into different kinds of businesses that are not known to the public, which that business won't also be far from what they cherish. The dedication they give to that passion is based on the monetary benefit they expect from it.

Of course, one consideration for most is the profitability of what they will be doing. Not only getting the satisfaction but at least get something out of it. You will be more motivated if you are getting something from what you are doing, because you are already wasting your time just by watching the games.
Sometimes, at the end of the day, it is how much you can gain from certain activity and not your morales or other principles in life. Because like it or not, people need to survive and they need to consider the monetary gain above else as long as they are not harming anyone along the way.

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January 31, 2025, 11:12:56 PM
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Of course, one consideration for most is the profitability of what they will be doing. Not only getting the satisfaction but at least get something out of it.
That is right. Their careers are not going to shine forever so as long as there is a good money that they'll get from their team, they should prioritize it.
It's also the same in other sports and NBA. Many fans do criticize the trades and transfers of their favorite and idoled player but can they do better decision than them?
They've got mouths to feed and that's why they are moving if there is something to decide for and have some more millions that they'll get.
Especially those players that are not in the superstar category, they need to secure themselves money for as long as they can be for each season that passes by because they'll never know if a team will still offer them to play for in the next seasons.
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January 31, 2025, 11:14:31 PM
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The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.
I don't know if maybe I could say that these players would later get to regret that decision to choose money over passion because if things do not go well in the club they are heading to and then they begin to consider leaving the club, it is very unlikely that they will get better offers from clubs than they would have gotten.

This is what most of the players who get offers from Saudi consider, And a factor for them to either decide to accept the move or not.

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January 31, 2025, 11:28:14 PM
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I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.
That's not true. You can't exempt those two. Did they agree to lesser payroll when they left their previous clubs? I know it took a lot of money to lure CR7 to the Saudi league. If he were actually playing for passion and not the money, he shouldn't have asked for all that. In fact, why are those two not playing in their own local leagues if it were for the passion alone? Whether we admit it or not, every sports person seeks the money in whatever engagements they go into. The passion may be there but the ultimate target is the money involved. Let no one kid you about this.

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