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January 31, 2025, 11:56:22 PM
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...The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in...

Given that the rating of the Saudi Arabian football championship is very low, there is no other way to get a good player than to offer him a huge salary. And with the limitless budgets that football clubs have, you can get the most decorated player like Cristiano Ronaldo and Benzema.

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January 31, 2025, 11:57:26 PM
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Sports nowadays give players more opportunities like the old days; even Messi and Ronaldo you mentioned are not immune to chasing money. What they love is playing football and displaying their skill, and at the same time, making money while doing what they love.

Nobody plays football again just for it being a hobby that they likes, they play it because it's worth playing for the fame and the money. Footballers are among some of the highest earners in the world and also get all the popularity more than the musicians. I'm not against any footballer that decides to go for the money and get himself and his family sorted for life.

We're all doing things differently for the money and that is more important than anything else because nobody is going to come to your rescue when you need the money the most as everybody is busy with their own life and using their money for their own need hence having your own money is nicer and always better. There's pension in having your own money hence we shouldn't be neglecting opportunities to have our own money.

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February 01, 2025, 04:34:03 AM
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So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.
i do not think wanting to get a higher salary is an indication of not being passionate enough about the sport even ronaldo and messi had high, if not the highest salaries. it is only normal for an athlete or anyone really to want to feel valued this is their source of income anyway and sometimes the higher the pay the better they play and it is because they feel that they are welcomed and appreciated in the club


Probably OP wants to value passion on sports as free which is why he is describing an interest for higher pay grade as lack of passion on sports which is absurd.


Sports is job for athletes not just a hobby or else they shouldn’t have any contract and play only whenever they want or free time from work. Athletes are playing on regular basis to give us sports entertainment because they are being paid.

Their passion is by continuing to play despite the hardships they encountered.

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February 01, 2025, 05:32:05 AM
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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

Could be two factors, you want to get entertained or you want to earn extra money in playing gambling at the first place there's a risk but if you really love doing sports betting and you know to your self that you are well in good here why not take this as an opportunity to get an extra money while watching your favorite game.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

If you are a well-known player and even you know to your self that you has a skill and of course your rates getting higher too so players would like to grab the opportunity to earn more money and getting more known by others and get a title, it seems just a simple question like you have the skills are you willing to get just a low key person and underpaid?.

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February 01, 2025, 05:53:35 AM
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This is a natural evolution of any game, not just football. And within every trend there is a fashion and a psychological attitude of fans and players. Football was once treated more like a cult game, now it is treated more like a money industry and this is normal. Every superstar in football has his own life cycle and it will not last forever. It is natural for football superstars to want to get the maximum monetary reward for their game. But everything has natural limits of common sense. As for Messi and Ronaldo, I think they have reached their ceiling both in sports and in salaries. After that there will only be a gradual decline. But if someone is ready to pay them crazy money and he has this money - this is normal.

 
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February 01, 2025, 03:17:58 PM
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Given that the rating of the Saudi Arabian football championship is very low, there is no other way to get a good player than to offer him a huge salary. And with the limitless budgets that football clubs have, you can get the most decorated player like Cristiano Ronaldo and Benzema.
yeah it is basically a win win situation for both the player and the team the players ask for high salaries and the club wants a skilled talented player everyone gets something in return here and it is all part of sports now: business though i do not think this only existed recently but maybe it only became glaringly obvious to some people only recently as back then this is all backstage stuff
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February 01, 2025, 04:00:45 PM
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We all live in a social economic system called capitalism. Under capitalism, money is of great importance. The main goal of any economic entity is to make a profit.

Therefore, modern football players strive to receive the highest possible salaries. At the same time, they build their careers based on the fact that they need to earn as much money as possible in a short period of time. I cannot blame them for this. Football is a very traumatic sport. Any football player will sooner or later get a serious injury. At the same time, it is far from certain that he will be able to restore his health and athletic form.

Therefore, the goal of any modern football player is to earn as much money as possible (until he gets a serious injury and is forced to leave big-time sports).

Of course, all this makes football a less interesting and spectacular sport than before. But these are today's realities.


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February 01, 2025, 07:10:45 PM
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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

Could be two factors, you want to get entertained or you want to earn extra money in playing gambling at the first place there's a risk but if you really love doing sports betting and you know to your self that you are well in good here why not take this as an opportunity to get an extra money while watching your favorite game.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

If you are a well-known player and even you know to your self that you has a skill and of course your rates getting higher too so players would like to grab the opportunity to earn more money and getting more known by others and get a title, it seems just a simple question like you have the skills are you willing to get just a low key person and underpaid?.
I know having quality as a player can boast your price tag. But the aspect of ignoring those who really love your game and are praying and supporting you archive more on the bigger stage aside money is what I’m really talking about.

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February 02, 2025, 12:56:13 PM
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@OP, I want you to note that passion is what makes the players you are seeing today to become football player, else, if they have had passion for something else (like business or any professional career like being a doctor or lawyer), then they would not be on the field practicing and going go fixtures. Passion drives you into a particular career, passion makes you to perform well in that carrier and while you are chasing after that career, you expect to make profit or get your income off it and when your income is not getting to your requirement, you will want to seek a greener pastures.
You are correct, but do you also know that some people chose that career not just based on passion but based on what they see will be more profitable to them? Some are just into it because of the money that they know can be made from it.

Yeah, it's still true, quite often, people choose a career with just a little of passion but mostly for the income they will get from it. On like before, you would see some people choosing big career like engineer, lawyer, doctor and back then, no body had wanted to be a farmer (lol).

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February 02, 2025, 01:08:02 PM
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I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
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If you have the skill and you are good, I see nothing wrong in trying to find the best pay. Sports is not just about the money, it's the passion in it that keeps these players strong till they archive success and become very good in their field. People like Ronaldo Messi and others, started at a young age, so it's not because they wanted the money, but they enjoyed what they had as a skill. They worked on it and grew it into something big. They can choose who to offer and who not to offer their skill so it's just like that mate...

A lot of people have different means of organizing this based on their own understanding and concern. I kinda agree with you;it is said that  Football is simple but playing Football is the big deal here because it requires more skills,talents,dedication and passion.Football is a combination of Passion and money,Passion is driven by determination and the love for what it is that you do and the excitement of competition for winning.

Money plays a vital role to almost everything in life and in football precisely.Passion is required in ones career but money on the other hand ends up facilitating a whole lot about sports.

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Imo, at the end of the day, everybody with a football career needs money. They might like football but I can guarantee that no one will play it at a professional level with little to no pay.

That's not my concern as Money will ALWAYS be a motivator for almost anyone. My concern is that we're moving away from the era of beautiful and entertaining football. The era of Ronaldo and Messi especially whenever they meet in el classico, it was always a joy to watch.

I still miss the days wingers actually make take ons. Now they just goto the wings and pass it back. There's only a few exceptions.

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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

Right from time people go for the money football is a game of fun and money which you can't distinguish one from another. Everyone is striving for upliftment so hence if football is played only for fun without money, how will people know the best player?  As far as I know money motivate people to increase their skill and bring the best in them to get award and recorgnition. Players may play for fun but doesn't end there. The money is what stears the action in them, if Ronaldo was to play only for fun without money, he wouldn't have left Manchester united at the first place.
 

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...The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in...

Given that the rating of the Saudi Arabian football championship is very low, there is no other way to get a good player than to offer him a huge salary. And with the limitless budgets that football clubs have, you can get the most decorated player like Cristiano Ronaldo and Benzema.
all this talk about Saudi league using their money to influence players and players playing for money and not for passion is not even necessary considering this obvious fact. if you take out the fueling of money into the Saudi league to attract some good players into the league, a lot of players will consider that league because of the popularity of the other leagues that have stayed long enough to attract players even without putting too much emphasis in how much the player is to be paid. somehow, when it comes to the case of Ronaldo and Messi, there seems to be some sort of biased in our analogy. both of these players will not play in a club that underpays them but will still take huge pay and get treated in a preferential manner, is that all about passion? football is like work, regardless of the passion you have for the job, the driving force is going to be what you are able to get in exchange for the skill you have.

no era has ever played the game just because they are passionate about it. money has always and will always be an integral part of the game. pay a player below what he thinks he is worth and watch him give you a frustrating performance that is below his best.

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Imo, at the end of the day, everybody with a football career needs money. They might like football but I can guarantee that no one will play it at a professional level with little to no pay...

Previously, when sports were not professional, each player had a main job, and received additional bonuses for sports performances. Now that the sport has become professional, the player's salary has become much higher than in the old days. And the more profit a team gets for the right to broadcast and advertise, the more opportunities it has to pay high salaries to its players.

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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.
That's because sports have become commercialized; there are more sponsors than ever before. if you are good and passionate about what you are doing and you have a better offer from another team because they think you deserve more, then I don't see anything wrong with changing teams and accepting the offer.

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So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract
You cannot play at your best all your life; you will become old and worn so why not accept a good compensation plan so you can enjoy retirement when it comes?
Great sportsman know they value and they they know how to bargain themselves; they only want to think about winning and their passion; they cannot do that if they lack financial stability.

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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

Right from time people go for the money football is a game of fun and money which you can't distinguish one from another. Everyone is striving for upliftment so hence if football is played only for fun without money, how will people know the best player?  As far as I know money motivate people to increase their skill and bring the best in them to get award and recorgnition. Players may play for fun but doesn't end there. The money is what stears the action in them, if Ronaldo was to play only for fun without money, he wouldn't have left Manchester united at the first place.
 
But what OP is trying to say is that most players now are not motivated to show their real talent without money. They give their best not to make the audience believe and entertain them but for the sake of money only. It was different when you were playing because you wanted it and never thought about being paid high. But Ronaldo gained a high offer because the team noticed his passion, dedication, and talent. And he deserved it.
But I believe a player stays in his team despite huge offers from others because of the comfort and system used.

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Could the economic situation in the region contributes on why these athletes demands higher pay? Because to me, it is often the case. Its not about the lack of passion, they do have passion for the sport they are into. They are motivated but they are not going to feel as a whole if they think their future aren't secure along with their family.
For some athletes I think yes. Maybe if they see that their country's economic situation is doing well then they will also demand for more fee but for some athletes that are purely doing it in the name of passion, I think they will less prioritize money

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I think not all and unfortunately this includes those people that are passionate on some things except for their family. They are too busy on their craft that they already come to a point of forgetting other things or people even their own family. Addicted individuals can be one of it but I think they are not far from the passionate people that we are talking about here.

They still play though and they may give their best if their demands are granted.
Another possible scenario is that if they won't give their best shot then they won't be receiving anything even by just a small pay although they can just quit earlier. That should save them more time and effort.

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February 03, 2025, 07:23:35 PM
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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

What makes you think that the likes of Ronaldo, Messi and the rest were not interested in money during their time? To the best of my knowledge, football has been monetized a long time ago when people started seeing it as a career. It is a serious business for both the players and club owners. The only thing that differentiates the players of old and the present day players is that the value of these sport called football has increased.

Even with their supposed love for money, they are still good players who know what they are doing. If you do not see the passion in these players, then I think it's just your mindset telling you otherwise. We should not equate the integrity and passion for football with how much the players request to be paid for their efforts. We should watch out for some obvious malpractices and cheats. These should be where we draw the curtain.


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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.

I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
Please when commenting let there fact that will be helpful


This is not only happening in football, MMA and boxing stars are in exactly the same situation. Bloggers who think they are professional athletes challenge old school athletes and only for the sake of a show of fame and money. It looks ridiculous, just like wrestling, I am not a fan of it. The spirit of competition is disappearing now, it seems like the new trend is a show without results.

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Observation - It’s been going on as a gossip or will I say argument.
That players of nowadays are more focus on making money rather than playing for passion like the old days.

I also can strongly say that passion for football ends in Ronaldo and Messi ERA.

So many headlines has been flying around, about players either wanting to change clubs because they want to secure a huge paycheck. While others still in their current club demanding a pay rise to a new contract.

The Saudi Arabia side has now made it more obvious by opening the door to players who are more interested in money than passion to come in.

I need more clarity on this matter, which is the reason I brought it on here.
Please when commenting let there fact that will be helpful

Maybe it is the adults who's minds have become clouded with age and project their own perceptions back on to the younger generations. Kids often want to follow their idols and their focus on the few best players is still down to their skill I think, but the amount of money they are earning keeps on creeping higher. Footballers have always been highly paid, Saudi Arabia has definitely notched it up a level but they are definitely chasing a vanity project that will not necessarily last long term. It's probably a good thing that these footballers get paid insane amounts and then return to their home countries way richer, because that is the place they're more likely to settle and spend it long term.

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